Hi Everyone! In the seventh episode of our 1986 Porsche 3.2 Carrera Refresh build project, down comes the engine!! Oh my... It was a success - ...mostly. Sorry it was a bit late. An awful lot went into it! Let us know your thoughts! You can get the "101 Projects for Your Porsche 911, 1964-1989" here: amzn.to/2XlmYYb Also that cool Porsche Jack Pad - Domestic Aftermarket amzn.to/2RNOlF9
Apologizing unnecessarily is a Canadian thing. You do not want to be mistook for a Canadian! You are never late, you are precisely when you meant to be!
Watching you doing these things just fascinates me. I wouldn't have the nerve. Although I must admit one of the things about watching you work, is how clean you stay. Even when I change my oil, I look like I did it from the inside of the engine. Good luck! Thanks for letting us watch.
Franny, don’t listen to the haters commenting on your experience dropping an engine. Very few people have the skills or the fortitude to try something like this on their own. Great job. I am impressed.
This experience will be great for you and your audience. The knowledge gained will allow all of to appreciate both the 911 more and what it takes to keep it running. I really enjoy Franny's sense of humour and her straight forward attitude to overcoming obstacles. This series is great and getting better. I look forward to future episodes.
This is spectacularly helpful! I rebuilt my engine a few years ago and now want to drop it again to replace the pressure plate and clutch disc. Problem is I can't recall all the little details. This will make it MUCH easier. As usual, your videos are a joy to watch and VERY helpful!
You folks are FANTASTIC! What a great group of videos. It IS a bit more complicated than removing the engine on my '66 VW beetle, which I can usually do in the length of time of this video! I love ALL your shows.
I am a Japanese audience. And I love 964 too. I am always moved by a very clean job. This engine overhaul is a very interesting task. Please look forward to the next video safely. K. I
I used to RR the engine and trans on all air cooled 911s with a regular large floor jack and two jack stands by myself. Just balance the jack plate on the engine where the center of gravity of the engine trans-axle assembly is. That jack assembly you used was not able to drop low enough and was not on the C.G.. Once you get it balanced you will never forget where the balance point is and make the operation sweet.
Absolutely fantastic series of videos. It is a relatively easy task to take the engine out of a G-series, but you make it even easier and friendlier. Thanks so much.
Love this!!!!!! Best video I've seen in a long time on TH-cam involving cars!!!!! You guys rock!!!! Watch the length of the screws as you remove them. Like VW's, a lot of them will block channels if the wrong screw goes in👍 Can't wait for rest. Take care👍
Hi Heidi Franny, super job you're doing. Maybe buy/rent a quicklift next time to raise the car? Lower portion of the bumper looks like it could be removed. Reminds me of the Beetle engines i've worked on. Stay safe and keep up the good work. 👍🏎😎
Super travail dommage que je ne comprends pas l'anglais sinon je t'es suivi juste par rapport uux images sinon merci pour le partage car la 911 et une voiture que j'ai toujours rêver d'avoir car à mes yeux c'est la meilleur voiture au monde, encore merci à toi 👍👍👍👍👍👍
I’d use a little heavier engine stand. Mine has an H shaped base with four wheels instead of just 3. I had a 3.3 turbo racing engine on it. The lighter duty T base stands are a little too shakey for me. Thanks for using the correct factory yoke, instead of a Mickey Mouse mount. Good job on your first engine pull! I enjoy watching your videos.
Great Job! I will probably do the same with my 993 at some point soon so I can replace the clutch. I've done this method with my 912 (which is super easy because the rear panel is removable. With the 993 I'm going to use my 2-post lift and an engine cradle a lot like yours.
So tidy!! Neat drop!! Must be the most stylish mechanic in the world, never mind TH-cam. For future projects would you swap one of your 4 posters for a 2 poster? Or does the ease of use for more mechanical jobs adversely affect the ease storing cars too much?
Our lifts were strictly based on storage. We would love a two post as well. If you do not need to stor, then get a two post. Four posts are great, but they do not work for swapping out snow tires or changing a flat. Heidi
Take the bumper off when installing. Makes the job heaps easier when not using a lift. Curious to why you didnt remove the clutch assembly before you put it on the stand? That said, well done! Remember to detail the engine bay thoroughly now that you’ve got the perfect opportunity.
Thanks Phil, Not sure if I'll mess with the clutch... The TO bearing feels great and the clutch was replaced about 30K miles ago... Easy enough to set the engine on the lift though...
As the neighbors drive past on this fine sunny day, they seen all this unfolding on the driveway and think, "Yup, that women Franny is outside again, pulling an engine out of another Porsche!... Yeah, it's quite the normal thing around here!"
Great episode, and kudos on the DIY spirit, but please, please Franny, wear some more substantial shoes when rolling a 400lb engine around, not to be preachy, but you'll really not enjoy running your toe over even with boots on, but with moccasins, it's unlikely you'll get off lighter than a broken toe. (I speak from experience, I nearly ran my toe over with a 5.4L V8 on a stand a couple of weeks ago but my boots kept it from going over and I got away with a couple days sore and a couple of bucks in the swear jar. :) )(and BTW, you'll never regret wearing a sturdy pair of boots when working with nearly any kind of tools).
hey franny you need to jack the car up as hi as possible first then drop out the engine in the oposing angle downwards this will stop all the issues you have had when it goes back in you have trans axle shift shaft first go in tunnel then lift engine in place it only takes 5 mins same coming out your surposed to also use long reach jack and jack it under bell housing and balance it wilst working on it i have had my boss teach me this way and have done so for past 30 years
Great video (seriously, well done!). It all worked out. But curious, it would seem that you maxed the lift of the car body to the limit - is that what you actually saw happening? Great to show adjusting the jack stands immediately as the car body went higher (safety fist!). Glad you mentioned taking the photos - most of us would need lots of photos and videos to know how everything goes back when it's time. Looking forward to the next video. Safe travels.
So does the fuel tank have to be drained? For some reason I don't recall doing that when I did this a long time ago but maybe I did. I was thinking it's "below' the engine but maybe I'm wrong.
If anyone removes a 911 Porsche engine what they do first is jack the Porsche up and then set the Porsche on jack stands and after that put the floor jack right underneath the oil drain pain underneath the motor that’s where you put your floor jack
Please buy a more substantial engine stand, your current one is making me feel nervous. Good job on this vid though, you guys are always both informative and entertaining.
I have one question, you may have already answered, but would it have been easier to lift the car up using your home lifts and leaving the motor on the cart? I have seen it done this way for people who have lifts. Thanks in advance.
Why not use one of those 4 post lifts? If the ramps aren't wide enough see if you can move over the one with no cables going through it far enough to drop the motor out using a lift cart or sturdy rolling toolbox.
That really can go either way. Check out when we put the engine back in. We suspended it from the lift and it was way easier and I think less dangerous. I'm just not a fan of really tall jack stands ;)
Great point... The engine won't go through the lift so a four-post lift isn't very useful... Or is it?? Check out the episode where we put the engine back in. Pretty interesting and we did use the lift ;)
@@HeidiandFranny Just caught up to the engine install. Interesting use of the lift. Never seen that before. Btw, the engine looks amazing. Restoring old things to new is a wonderful feeling.
Hi Bob, we just reached out to the local community and asked if anyone had one they would part with or would be willing to lend. An engine stand is really something you use once in a great while and store most of the time.
Thanks to you and your video I've learned the transmission comes out together with the engine. I've thought the transmission stays in place and the engine comes out alone. Btw can you tell me how many hours in total the project "engine out" has taken?
I think the engine out was about seven or eight hours maybe. I went pretty slowly. You can remove just the engine, but we were after the transmission anyway...
Given her/their level of involvement and investment in all of her/their cars, you'd think they'd be donning official "Heidi & Franny's Garage" coveralls, with graphics - in pink of course!!!! Good job on this endeavor!
Not a dumb question at all! The opening between the rails just isn't wide enough for the engine by about 4-5". Super bummer as that would have made things a bit easier. We came up with a better way to get the engine back in. Working on that video now. F
@@HeidiandFranny -- I have a mid-rise scissor one that lets me drop Beetle engines without issues but a two post would be phenomenal. Unfortunately my ceiling height won't allow it. Can I ask what is your current video recording/editing equipment? I enjoy the quality of it and would love to try and match it as much as possible. I've decided to do as you both and record the work I'm going to do, not only on my new project - 1984 Puma GTC - but also on the Beetles I maintain for family and friends.
We use a Panasonic G85 for the main shooter and GoPro 7 for the tight shots. But it really is more about light and getting light where you need it. We have several small rectangle LED lights with good color that are essential. For audio we use the little Rhode wireless mics. That's about it! But honestly I bet your phone would work just fine. A surprising amount (if not all) content on Goozsquad is shot on their cell phones ;)
Oh, because we drive this car year around! They are actually great fun in the snow! ...and capable. I'm just a slacker and haven't swapped out the wheels with the summer wheels yet because of all this work. I want to go over the suspension as well so I can swap out to the summer tires then. Here in Colorado we really only have about four months of pure summer tires weather. On either side the temps can be a bit cold.
Hi Everyone! In the seventh episode of our 1986 Porsche 3.2 Carrera Refresh build project, down comes the engine!! Oh my... It was a success - ...mostly. Sorry it was a bit late. An awful lot went into it! Let us know your thoughts!
You can get the "101 Projects for Your Porsche 911, 1964-1989" here: amzn.to/2XlmYYb
Also that cool Porsche Jack Pad - Domestic Aftermarket
amzn.to/2RNOlF9
Apologizing unnecessarily is a Canadian thing. You do not want to be mistook for a Canadian! You are never late, you are precisely when you meant to be!
Watching you doing these things just fascinates me. I wouldn't have the nerve. Although I must admit one of the things about watching you work, is how clean you stay. Even when I change my oil, I look like I did it from the inside of the engine. Good luck! Thanks for letting us watch.
Your knowledge of cars is impressive. You seem like such a nice person. I enjoy watching these videos.
Franny, don’t listen to the haters commenting on your experience dropping an engine. Very few people have the skills or the fortitude to try something like this on their own. Great job. I am impressed.
@Heidiandfrannysgarage. It’s pure joy to watch
Thanks so much!
This experience will be great for you and your audience. The knowledge gained will allow all of to appreciate both the 911 more and what it takes to keep it running. I really enjoy Franny's sense of humour and her straight forward attitude to overcoming obstacles. This series is great and getting better. I look forward to future episodes.
Franny & Heidi: you are the most courageous women I have ever seen! BRAVO for the awesome job! Shout out also to Doug!
Thank you so much!
This is spectacularly helpful! I rebuilt my engine a few years ago and now want to drop it again to replace the pressure plate and clutch disc. Problem is I can't recall all the little details. This will make it MUCH easier. As usual, your videos are a joy to watch and VERY helpful!
Superb job , so calm and organised too
🙏🙏🙏
You folks are FANTASTIC! What a great group of videos. It IS a bit more complicated than removing the engine on my '66 VW beetle, which I can usually do in the length of time of this video! I love ALL your shows.
I am a Japanese audience. And I love 964 too. I am always moved by a very clean job.
This engine overhaul is a very interesting task. Please look forward to the next video safely.
K. I
Watching this, I can only imagine what kind of stunts you pulled as a child!
You have no idea.
I used to RR the engine and trans on all air cooled 911s with a regular large floor jack and two jack stands by myself. Just balance the jack plate on the engine where the center of gravity of the engine trans-axle assembly is. That jack assembly you used was not able to drop low enough and was not on the C.G.. Once you get it balanced you will never forget where the balance point is and make the operation sweet.
Im amazed the work they do on this car ...fantastic
Very interesting to see the actual dropping engine. So brave. 👍👍👍
I am learning so much. I really like the leak down test vs compression test. I never liked compression tests either
Absolutely fantastic series of videos. It is a relatively easy task to take the engine out of a G-series, but you make it even easier and friendlier. Thanks so much.
Great job! Smart to drop the car before going any further 👍
this was very cool seeing this happen in your driveway. good job.
Thanks.
Love your can do positive vibe, pretty much the opposite of my attitude when faced with trying to take stuff of my car!
Another outstanding video. Like everyone else watching I sighed when the engine was safely tucked away.
Thanks! As were we ;)
Great work as always.
Dang it...Franny got all dirty! Great Job!
Geez Louise! Is there anything you two won't tackle? Great job; and as usual, a great video
Love this!!!!!! Best video I've seen in a long time on TH-cam involving cars!!!!! You guys rock!!!! Watch the length of the screws as you remove them. Like VW's, a lot of them will block channels if the wrong screw goes in👍
Can't wait for rest. Take care👍
Thanks so much!! :)
Love your stories! So happy you keep doing them. Keep going! Happy driving.
Another great video - I really like that you go into the details. Especially a 911 engine drop, which is just part of the 911 owner experience. :)
This is so awesome! I'm going to be doing the same thing to my '85 911 next summer and these videos are going to be super helpful.
Great work ladies, that 3.2L looks extremely heavy. Can't wait for the next episode, keep up the great work!
Mid mount engine, requires plenty TLC! Another great post!
Exciting, suspenseful !
and another great video Franny.
Congratulations, well done ladies and gentlemen. Great videos.
Great job ladies and Doug! You are so organized. I really enjoyed this episode.
wow, so impressive so motivating, I am considering a engine project on a 997 and that was so informative and well done.
Thanks!
Hi Heidi Franny, super job you're doing. Maybe buy/rent a quicklift next time to raise the car? Lower portion of the bumper looks like it could be removed. Reminds me of the Beetle engines i've worked on. Stay safe and keep up the good work. 👍🏎😎
Absolutely fascinating. Thanks for making this!
I have a 3.2 and i am inspired.
I had a 1974 sport edition Porsche 914 I loved it
Super travail dommage que je ne comprends pas l'anglais sinon je t'es suivi juste par rapport uux images sinon merci pour le partage car la 911 et une voiture que j'ai toujours rêver d'avoir car à mes yeux c'est la meilleur voiture au monde, encore merci à toi 👍👍👍👍👍👍
That was great. Thank you for sharing. Good luck going forward.
I’d use a little heavier engine stand. Mine has an H shaped base with four wheels instead of just 3. I had a 3.3 turbo racing engine on it. The lighter duty T base stands are a little too shakey for me. Thanks for using the correct factory yoke, instead of a Mickey Mouse mount. Good job on your first engine pull! I enjoy watching your videos.
Yeah, thanks. Great tip. At this point we just decided the ladder on the fourth side. Lol. Heidi
Great work and videography on how to pull that engine!!
Thanks!
Excellent work!
I enjoy your videos 📹, I am trying to decide buying either a 993 carrera or a 996 c4. Don't know yet. Cheers 🍻
Wow, that was really cool. Good job guys. Always wanted to see this in action.
Well, you did it!
Well done!!
John. UK.
Thank you fran!
Great series! I look forward to seeing more of the process going forward!!
You guys are super! Watching with great interest. Video production 👌 Greetings from Naples FL.
I did that five time before 😆😳 1985 same years as mine 👍
Oh my... I bet you are super good at it though :)
Hello from Chicago IL! I look forward to every single video.
Great Job! I will probably do the same with my 993 at some point soon so I can replace the clutch. I've done this method with my 912 (which is super easy because the rear panel is removable. With the 993 I'm going to use my 2-post lift and an engine cradle a lot like yours.
It works
Wow! I wonder how hard that would be to do on a Cayman. Amazing work.
I've wondered that myself ;) I bet it isn't all that bad... Probably easier to connect and disconnect everything...
Now i know how you keep soooooo clean...... no oli on your hat and ETC,,,,, you do the top work and Doug get the dirty job,,
You picked up on that... ;)
Great job!
The dangers of a workshop are no yoke!
Well done!
Great video such a complex job but nice to see the progress on such a nice car - bring on the next steps :)
If you’re going to do engine rebuilds on 911’s I’d consider getting or making an engine dolly that you can use with the car on the lift. 🤔🤔🤔
Awesome!
nice ! , a idea remove the rear bumper when you insert te engine back again,, you have more room
Thanks! IF all goes well we will be repainting too so it will be off. Good suggestion :)
So tidy!! Neat drop!! Must be the most stylish mechanic in the world, never mind TH-cam. For future projects would you swap one of your 4 posters for a 2 poster? Or does the ease of use for more mechanical jobs adversely affect the ease storing cars too much?
Our lifts were strictly based on storage. We would love a two post as well. If you do not need to stor, then get a two post. Four posts are great, but they do not work for swapping out snow tires or changing a flat. Heidi
@@HeidiandFranny Yes indeed. I don’t have the space for any ramps! Snows get done in the drive. Tiny garage full of bikes! 😉
Take the bumper off when installing. Makes the job heaps easier when not using a lift. Curious to why you didnt remove the clutch assembly before you put it on the stand? That said, well done! Remember to detail the engine bay thoroughly now that you’ve got the perfect opportunity.
Thanks Phil, Not sure if I'll mess with the clutch... The TO bearing feels great and the clutch was replaced about 30K miles ago... Easy enough to set the engine on the lift though...
Great vids! Just found your channel. I'm just a few minutes away by Standley Lake.
Nicely done :)
Franny,you are one impressive greaser.
As the neighbors drive past on this fine sunny day, they seen all this unfolding on the driveway and think, "Yup, that women Franny is outside again, pulling an engine out of another Porsche!... Yeah, it's quite the normal thing around here!"
I've always wondered how this is done.. thanks !
Nice job!
Greetings from Zuffenhausen😎
Thanks for stopping by!!
Zuffenhausen? Wunderbar!
Great episode, and kudos on the DIY spirit, but please, please Franny, wear some more substantial shoes when rolling a 400lb engine around, not to be preachy, but you'll really not enjoy running your toe over even with boots on, but with moccasins, it's unlikely you'll get off lighter than a broken toe. (I speak from experience, I nearly ran my toe over with a 5.4L V8 on a stand a couple of weeks ago but my boots kept it from going over and I got away with a couple days sore and a couple of bucks in the swear jar. :) )(and BTW, you'll never regret wearing a sturdy pair of boots when working with nearly any kind of tools).
Engineered just right, only the four skinny Studs keep that Engine & Transmission together.
hey franny you need to jack the car up as hi as possible first then drop out the engine in the oposing angle downwards this will stop all the issues you have had when it goes back in you have trans axle shift shaft first go in tunnel then lift engine in place it only takes 5 mins same coming out your surposed to also use long reach jack and jack it under bell housing and balance it wilst working on it i have had my boss teach me this way and have done so for past 30 years
Thanks for that Nick. Looks like our method could use some improvement :)
Great video (seriously, well done!). It all worked out. But curious, it would seem that you maxed the lift of the car body to the limit - is that what you actually saw happening? Great to show adjusting the jack stands immediately as the car body went higher (safety fist!). Glad you mentioned taking the photos - most of us would need lots of photos and videos to know how everything goes back when it's time. Looking forward to the next video. Safe travels.
Yeah, it was crazy and sketchy.
that was a tight squeeze compared to a vw,
Hey Mustie1 !!......You ,being the ultimate "ringer", I think you would agree with me that they did a fine job dropping this 3.2?
Congrats, well done. BTW hope you had it in 3rd so shifter rod is shortest.
So does the fuel tank have to be drained? For some reason I don't recall doing that when I did this a long time ago but maybe I did. I was thinking it's "below' the engine but maybe I'm wrong.
If anyone removes a 911 Porsche engine what they do first is jack the Porsche up and then set the Porsche on jack stands and after that put the floor jack right underneath the oil drain pain underneath the motor that’s where you put your floor jack
Can you please tell me how strong are those gas-filled struts that hold the trunk open. Thank you:)
Please buy a more substantial engine stand, your current one is making me feel nervous. Good job on this vid though, you guys are always both informative and entertaining.
I have one question, you may have already answered, but would it have been easier to lift the car up using your home lifts and leaving the motor on the cart? I have seen it done this way for people who have lifts. Thanks in advance.
That is a great idea and I may do that to put the engine back in. I was wondering if our lift would go up high enough. Thanks for bring this up :)
Why not use one of those 4 post lifts? If the ramps aren't wide enough see if you can move over the one with no cables going through it far enough to drop the motor out using a lift cart or sturdy rolling toolbox.
You will have to watch the engine install video...
That Franny really digs in for a lady in a pink sweater with pearls
After 110,000 miles, it's a no brainer, change the starter.
As I recall I removed the bumper so I did not have to lift the car quite so high. May be more trouble than it's worth.
That really can go either way. Check out when we put the engine back in. We suspended it from the lift and it was way easier and I think less dangerous. I'm just not a fan of really tall jack stands ;)
Next time use your lift and remove the rear bumper. Would have been a much easier removal.
Great job. But why didn't they use the lift? Wouldn't that be much easier?
Great point... The engine won't go through the lift so a four-post lift isn't very useful... Or is it?? Check out the episode where we put the engine back in. Pretty interesting and we did use the lift ;)
@@HeidiandFranny Just caught up to the engine install. Interesting use of the lift. Never seen that before. Btw, the engine looks amazing. Restoring old things to new is a wonderful feeling.
Where did you get your engine stand? Starting to do my research for my engines .
Hi Bob, we just reached out to the local community and asked if anyone had one they would part with or would be willing to lend. An engine stand is really something you use once in a great while and store most of the time.
Thanks to you and your video I've learned the transmission comes out together with the engine. I've thought the transmission stays in place and the engine comes out alone.
Btw can you tell me how many hours in total the project "engine out" has taken?
I think the engine out was about seven or eight hours maybe. I went pretty slowly. You can remove just the engine, but we were after the transmission anyway...
@@HeidiandFranny Thank you for answering my question.👍
Franny do you work on a car and not get dirty? I'm usually covered in grim when I'm done. Well done. Thanks for the videos.
Given her/their level of involvement and investment in all of her/their cars, you'd think they'd be donning official "Heidi & Franny's Garage" coveralls, with graphics - in pink of course!!!!
Good job on this endeavor!
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Dumb question but why not use the lifts? Seems like a 4 post would work.
Not a dumb question at all! The opening between the rails just isn't wide enough for the engine by about 4-5". Super bummer as that would have made things a bit easier. We came up with a better way to get the engine back in. Working on that video now. F
@@HeidiandFranny Oh wow, missed it by just that much. Bummer!
I was watching thinking, "But they have lifts. Use them!" 😂😂😂
What we need is a two post lift ;)
@@HeidiandFranny -- I have a mid-rise scissor one that lets me drop Beetle engines without issues but a two post would be phenomenal. Unfortunately my ceiling height won't allow it.
Can I ask what is your current video recording/editing equipment? I enjoy the quality of it and would love to try and match it as much as possible.
I've decided to do as you both and record the work I'm going to do, not only on my new project - 1984 Puma GTC - but also on the Beetles I maintain for family and friends.
We use a Panasonic G85 for the main shooter and GoPro 7 for the tight shots. But it really is more about light and getting light where you need it. We have several small rectangle LED lights with good color that are essential. For audio we use the little Rhode wireless mics. That's about it! But honestly I bet your phone would work just fine. A surprising amount (if not all) content on Goozsquad is shot on their cell phones ;)
More like removing the car from the engine, well done!
Just remove rear bumper Franny 👍😃
Our issues was with the sub frame actually - unfortunately... That bumper will need to come off soon so I'll leave it off for the install :)
This wold be easier on the lift
The engine won't fit between the rails...
why do you have snow tires on the rear? does that car ever see snow?
Oh, because we drive this car year around! They are actually great fun in the snow! ...and capable. I'm just a slacker and haven't swapped out the wheels with the summer wheels yet because of all this work. I want to go over the suspension as well so I can swap out to the summer tires then. Here in Colorado we really only have about four months of pure summer tires weather. On either side the temps can be a bit cold.
that's great! never saw anyone, other than myself, drive a cab in the winter. keep up the fun!
You need to watch one of our oldest videos! Shamu’s slumber. th-cam.com/video/ELfffHWb0io/w-d-xo.html
Why didn't you just use one of your car lifts? Would have been incredibly easier.
probably should have taken the muffler off first
Should have removed the rear Bumper Shroud & Bumpetts.