Cornish mackerel 'loop' hand-line fishing, Porthkerris off Helford. Nigel Hill. Pisces-RFR

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  • 3rd June 2013. Hand lining for mackerel with a loop with lures, in full swing 10 minutes into the video. Fishing from 4.30 am through to about 6.30 through sunrise, adding lance (sand eel) as bait to boost the fishing once it starts to fall off. Nigel explains as he fishes why he does things the way he does. The usual cautions - the aim to provide a good sense of catch rates, bycatch (2 herring) and discards (none), so intentionally has long unbroken sequences rather than action cuts (though there are plenty of fish being caught). However it is a tranquil sea and a lovely dawn, for those who want to soak up the experience; for fishing nuts; or those who need to watch the whole thing to draw independent conclusion. For those who want to skim, Nigel first talks about various aspects of the fishing as we go out to the mark, a couple of miles down the coast from the Helford mooring; then prepares, putting a layer of water on the deck to stop the fish being damaged and help bleed and clean the fish. The fishing is in full swing at 4.45 am, 10.00 minutes into the video, and Nigel has switched to lance bait to reinvigorate the catch rate by 38m 00s, and there is a shot at Kernow Sashimi of the landed catch starting 44.25.

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  • @DarronSmithBahamianMillionaire
    @DarronSmithBahamianMillionaire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is amazing how he is working alone and not tangling the line and still has control of the boat. It is a history of what he probably learnt from his Father and Grand Father. Perfect video!

  • @AustenGoldsmithPhotography
    @AustenGoldsmithPhotography 6 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Not a day I don’t go to the manacles and think about nigel . I now own Pedden. He would be so pleased to know that . Nigel was a gentleman in the true sense of the word

  • @ssmsl01
    @ssmsl01 8 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I went to school with Nigel and fished with him in the summer of 81 , During that Summer I could see Nigel wanted no more out of life than fishing , he lived for it , what a character. Yet another fisherman taken by the sea , RIP mate

    • @iloveamerica8541
      @iloveamerica8541 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What happened?

    • @waterboy8999
      @waterboy8999 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@iloveamerica8541he was found over the side of his boat in 2016 after it was noticed going round in circles with no one onboard.

  • @watertothepeople
    @watertothepeople 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great video and fisherman, I could watch this for hours. This is the fish people should buy..not those caught by gigantic trawlers. This is sustainable fishing! Sad to know this hardworking man drowned.

  • @AustenGoldsmithPhotography
    @AustenGoldsmithPhotography 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Nigel Hill RIP You were a legend and I miss you as do so many others

  • @bambabrown
    @bambabrown 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    RIP Nigel, a true Cornish fisherman , tight lines,from wales,

  • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
    @malcolmmacgarvin6998  8 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    Sad news I am afraid - Nigel Hill drowned at sea while fishing on Monday 28th of March, apparently pulled overboard by his fishing gear - a constant risk for all fishers, and especially for those fishing solo. This is the most popular of all of the TH-cam videos of fishing I've done, and Nigel's strong character stands out. He will be much missed by all who knew him. Malcolm MacGarvin.

    • @FlyawayJane
      @FlyawayJane 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Malcolm MacGarvin Sad news very good man...we all willmiss him ..

    • @lyndylou5367
      @lyndylou5367 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Such a shock and so sad. I grew up with Nigel, he was indeed a unique man, with a sense of humour and a bit of tongue in cheek mischief, I remember quite a few of those cheeky comments that came my way ☺! I feel so sad, he was such a nice, friendly chap, taken way too soon. I really feel for his brother and sister David and Jane and the extended families and also his friends. Rest In Peace now Nigel and fly high with that black back gull who used to watch and wait for you. I'm sure you'll be looking over all the fishermen and am equally as sure they will be missing your presence for many years to come 🐟 X

    • @cabotbluegill
      @cabotbluegill 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am so sorry to read this thoughts and prayers to his friends and family

    • @altitudeillume6060
      @altitudeillume6060 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you just broke my heart. i was coming to post what a joy it is to see a real man at his tasks. a true outdoors-man and i admire him as much as the statue of david or any other great work. thanks nigel, for living.

    • @ct026
      @ct026 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      altitude illume Just done the same as you! RIP Nigel.

  • @biggerthanacadillac
    @biggerthanacadillac 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Back in the seventies I was a pro. fisherman. Four hands[ me & 3 others] handlined 802stone [5 tons & 2 stone] from 3mile buoy to Lizard on the ebb in 6hours. The NEXT day a Looe 4hander had 1380stone [8&ahalf+++tons] off Salcombe. We would regularly take 300-500stone per day back then but it was destroyed by the Scotsmen with their mid-watering & purses.......told to come here [Cornwall] to mop up & pay their HUGE Highlands & Islands Development Board boat loans. Still makes me sick to think of that.....Cornish pissed all over yet again.

  • @paulely1644
    @paulely1644 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow ..sorry for your loss...

  • @simonpaynter5027
    @simonpaynter5027 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome , Well Done.
    Great video ,enjoyed watching👍👍

  • @leewinters418
    @leewinters418 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think this is one your best videos Malcolm, sadly the fish seemed a bit scarce as was the case for the last few seasons.

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank's Lee - If I remember rightly Nigel had a good period about a week before. but I was pleased at how it captured Nigel's personality - and it really was a close second best to actually going out on the boat for those who don't have that opportunity - great sunrise!

  • @4897mike
    @4897mike 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really good video the real deal sorry that Nigel has passed

  • @jackiewong1689
    @jackiewong1689 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wonderful video like it so much

  • @haydenvella6232
    @haydenvella6232 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im so confused on this rig setup haha , could someone that understands it kindly post a picture/sketch please. Is it in effect 2 straight wieghted rigs attached together end to end that are fed into the water and fed around ?

  • @misransiano6265
    @misransiano6265 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow, that's a good catch , mate

  • @vinny42042
    @vinny42042 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    RIP fishermen did what he loved till the end

  • @khko13
    @khko13 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    enjoyed the video. thanks

  • @chrisryan3770
    @chrisryan3770 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What was his final tally here in kg? A lot of the U10m lads up here have fitted jigging machines for the mackerel season.

  • @tomharrell1954
    @tomharrell1954 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good Job mate. Looks like a lot of work though. Thanks for posting. God bless.

  • @nickjohnson2738
    @nickjohnson2738 ปีที่แล้ว

    I cant quite work out how the "loop" works? Is it an actual loop or is it a straight section between two lead sinkers? Does anyone know?

  • @albayano
    @albayano 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    why it wont tangle the line with the hook?\

  • @adurpina
    @adurpina 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    NICE JOB!

  • @fuerstmetternich5935
    @fuerstmetternich5935 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Forgive my ignorance, but does he catch all those w. one hand line?...it looks like there are more lines in the water.....and what do the mackerel bite on,when he is not using the lance bait....bare gold hooks, like a pilchard rig?
    ....i think i see some artificial jigs....he tips them w. the lance bait?

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes Nigel uses just one line, in a continuous loop - it has one weight, then a series of metalic lures (reflected flashy light) with hooks, then the rest of the loop is line without hooks (so that the loop gets down to the right depth). Its getting pulled up through the shoal in a constant circle, and in the breaking dawn light the mackerel are in a feeding frenzy for a short period, and they go for the flashes. The fishing goes quiet soon after dawn - Nigel thinks that by using lance (also called sand eel in UK) he can prolong the fishing for a bit, but it is mainly without bait. There are gurdies for those who want to mechanise the process.

    • @fuerstmetternich5935
      @fuerstmetternich5935 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Malcolm MacGarvin
      thank you so much for the reply.....now the whole thing makes sense to some degree...the only 2 questions remaining would be, where exactly does one place the weight(my guess would be in front of the metal lures to pull them downward)....and the whole line on the spool would have to be a connected double line(to form the continuous loop)...and you just feed out enough of it to get to your desired depth?....Sorry to be so nosy, but this stuff fascinates me, since i like hand lining to begin with....;)

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      I think the weight might be below the lures to keep the tension? - but you'll be able to see that from the video, as you should see the weight coming on board and then him throwing it over again - it makes a splash as it goes on. I didn't see him making any adjustment to the line, I think the depth at which the mackerel are will be fairly constant - if the loop is too long, you will just have an unnecessary gap. I remember Nigel saying that there was quite a knack to getting the technique smooth.

    • @fuerstmetternich5935
      @fuerstmetternich5935 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes, that is what i meant by "in front of"...in order to pull them down....but i will look at it again...fascinating stuff.....

  • @peterward4005
    @peterward4005 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What type of boat is it?

  • @ellicottposh
    @ellicottposh 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi does he need a cat a license for hand lining mackerel,nice video !!

  • @rabbitskinner
    @rabbitskinner 8 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    RIP Nigel better fishing up their mate

  • @fishingholic1220
    @fishingholic1220 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do u use hook size what sir

  • @jamesrivis620
    @jamesrivis620 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Awesome.

  • @thomasconover8739
    @thomasconover8739 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very interesting video. Any idea where I can find a diagram of the rig he is using in this video? I'd love to give this a try here in the US.

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Thomas - I had a look too, and can't see much, this was the closest www.linecaughtmackerel.org.uk/the-fishing-gear.html If you are really interested would you like to drop an email to me at malcolm@pisces-rfr.org and I could e.g. link you up with Dylan Bean at Kernow Sashimi, who Nigel lands to - perhaps they could help you source one in Cornwall, get it posted over?

    • @thomasconover8739
      @thomasconover8739 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Malcolm MacGarvin Great, thank you. I'll get an e-mail right out to you.

    • @user-yr4oo9dy2r
      @user-yr4oo9dy2r 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thomas Conover

  • @leonardopereira5692
    @leonardopereira5692 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    malcolm macgarvin what bait use for mackerel please I need you help when I'm fishing never found mackerel
    please let me know

    • @Bhans99
      @Bhans99 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It looks like he is using feathers in this video. If you look up "Mackerel Feathers" on Google, you will find them. You can use many different types of bait for mackerel. Feathers tend to be most popular as you can put many on one line to increase your chance of catching a fish. Other ways are Lures, Spinners and raw bait. Mackerel's natural prey are whitebait. Whitebait are very shiny small fish; so any bait that resembles whitebait will do. Hope it helps.

    • @matthewsampson8133
      @matthewsampson8133 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      LEONARDO PEREIRA bait usually isn't used for mackerel, it can be caught easily using the feathers(mentioned above) or a hook shaped like a little fish

  • @paulthemagpie8605
    @paulthemagpie8605 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    when i did this down Cornwall i'm sure they called it "whiffing" is this correct ?

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +paul walters Didn't hear Nigel say this, but Oxford English Dictionary has:
      whiff 2. Angling.
      To angle for mackerel, etc. from a swiftly moving boat with a hand-line towing the bait near the surface.
      1886 Globe 22 July 3/1 When you ‘whiff’ at Scilly, you whiff for pollack.
      & whiffing n.2 (also attrib.).
      1836 W. Yarrell Hist. Brit. Fishes II. 172 Hand-line fishing for Pollacks is called whiffing.
      1863 C. A. Johns Home Walks 164 We generally threw out our whiffing lines as we cruised about.

    • @paulthemagpie8605
      @paulthemagpie8605 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      cheers for that, when the boat owner said we was whiffing I said speak for yourself :) , we did get 4 stone of mac in a few hours and some Snook I think he called them....type of needle fish.

    • @sfabbshead
      @sfabbshead 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Malcolm MacGarvin Enjoyed watching thanks for posting, brings back fond memories of catching them for bait before hitting the wrecks cheers.

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      gary jenkins pleased you liked it Gary. Quite a character is Nigel.

  • @maxgillings2972
    @maxgillings2972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What boat

  • @brianconnolly732
    @brianconnolly732 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What are lanceies?

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  9 ปีที่แล้ว

      sandeels (sand-eels) Ammodytes - also known as sea-lances or just lance. I've some photos of them, and a fishery dedicated to them just along the coast at St Ives Bay, for angler's bait, here
      www.pisces-rfr.org/UK/Cornish_coastal_inshore_fisheries_photo_library/Pages/St_Ives_sandeel_ring_netting.html#52

  • @schlaznger8049
    @schlaznger8049 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is the fishing setup called a Sabiki rig?

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +schlaznger -I just hear Nigel refer to it as fishing "on a loop" Having just checked Sabiki on the web to write a reply, it wasn't clear from the wiki that the main line in Sabiki is a continuous loop - other than that it sounded similar, with one weight and individual hooks.

    • @schlaznger8049
      @schlaznger8049 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Malcolm MacGarvin Oh ok now I understand. After your explanation it makes sense what I saw. Thanks for the help.

    • @rabbitskinner
      @rabbitskinner 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Malcolm MacGarvin No mate it's a loop with Mackerel flies/feathers attached. Sabiki are smaller and usually used with a rod.

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Lee Winger Thanks for that clarification Lee

  • @ArvinG
    @ArvinG 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    tutorials for the rig and how to pls xD

  • @mikejone1934
    @mikejone1934 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    holy mackerel !!i know this fishing spot! thats martha vineyard island!!

  • @bilalmistari3709
    @bilalmistari3709 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    best

  • @antonyparry6702
    @antonyparry6702 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dad had a gurdy on his boat

  • @yogeetakissoon7494
    @yogeetakissoon7494 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    More mackerel

  • @jacklawrence7023
    @jacklawrence7023 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Right on my bird

  • @Biffo1262
    @Biffo1262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    'I love all forms of wildlife". I wonder if irony of that statement is lost on him as the dying fish thrash around his feet?

    • @tinkertailor7385
      @tinkertailor7385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Food and knowing where it comes from son. Farmers husband and care for their livestock, but they still send them to market. There is no "irony" in loving the things that sustain you or the lifestyle of harvesting the sea.

  • @nareshpavan5836
    @nareshpavan5836 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gg have GB

  • @bennythamacsjourney4774
    @bennythamacsjourney4774 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rips hooks out their gobs

  • @dwetick1
    @dwetick1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You ought to be able to do better with a homemade sabicki rig and a rod & reel.

    • @nonevarda
      @nonevarda 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      D Wetick you missed the point. You cannot have such huge number of feathers on rod and reel

  • @maxgillings2972
    @maxgillings2972 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    The guy filming was talking a lot 😂

  • @christianmiletzky744
    @christianmiletzky744 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kill the fishes when you take them into the boat!!!

  • @hoangh11
    @hoangh11 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    greedy

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Hoang Phi - he is a commercial fisherman - I don't think he will make much of a living with catches only of that size, although on other days the catch is larger

    • @jermo31
      @jermo31 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +Malcolm MacGarvin just using that cooler its not comercial fishing lol bait or personal use probably

  • @Cvijo123
    @Cvijo123 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    what did you record a guy ??? .. my god do you know how to use camer ? .. look your screen on that old guy and his head and body .. no seay, not what he is throwing into water, when he is pulling out, what he catch .. my god .. disaster

    • @malcolmmacgarvin6998
      @malcolmmacgarvin6998  9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      +Matija Gluhak - fair comment, thanks. One of the challenges of filming on a very small boat and limited ability to change position, going out on it and seeing the method for the for the first time, and limited wide angle on this type of video camera. On balance most people seem happy to see it with its limitations rather than nothing at all.