Taya in the storm 56 knots on the South Pacific with a Jordon series drogue

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  • @brianmcintyre6407
    @brianmcintyre6407 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is incredible video, people don't know what you went through. Especially the rogue wave hitting from your port side. Incredible!

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yes it was an exciting adventure! Actually wouldn't mind doing that again... I love adventures. Even if it's a bit dangerous.

  • @zzzsydneyhom1379
    @zzzsydneyhom1379 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Oh Oh was an understatement in my opinion....

  • @flyingfox10001
    @flyingfox10001 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Even though it’s a bit breezy, it’s good to see you still trying to catch fish with a line off the stern!

  • @Whit-mh9nt
    @Whit-mh9nt ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow nicely balanced on two lines..thats as good as it gets..

  • @JannekeBrouwer87
    @JannekeBrouwer87  4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Note: the drogue got caught up behind our rudder in the middle of the storm.... Alan had to step on the back (20 cm) of our boat and pull the line with his bare hands to get it loose and connect it again.

    • @pedroforonda
      @pedroforonda 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      chances of loosing a finger... or two... in the scale of one to 10 how bad was it?

  • @davidzaharik5408
    @davidzaharik5408 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where in the south Pacific, what time of year? Was there a storm warning? Great video.... I'm looking into a JSD for my next adventure

  • @deborahdoyle6743
    @deborahdoyle6743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow. Thank god for JSD.

  • @cjyoung7372
    @cjyoung7372 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Non sailor here. I would have assumed that you would put the sea anchor on the bow why on the stern?

    • @crazyhorsetrading8655
      @crazyhorsetrading8655 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's not a sea anchor its a series drogue. Different application

    • @ThePatgilbert
      @ThePatgilbert 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Me too ,in big seas strong winds abow 50 knts a parachute does wonders at sea,but set up is not easy ,a drogue it was more likely used of the stern to slow down the ship in running seas ,but your idea set up ,yup why untill the wawes reach a certain high!when those roller coaster freak wawes hit you side ways your boat is in danger ,to be rolled over!

    • @andrewwilson1835
      @andrewwilson1835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      There are several important reasons why it is off the stern, not the bow.
      - Safer to deploy. Conditions will be very rough to consider deploying JSD. The Bow is less safe to deploy from
      - Most yacht bows are fine and narrow with less buoyant volume than the stern. The Bow would tend to be dragged in to the wave, where the stern will tend to ride over it.
      - the JSD acts like a big shock absorber, so a boat will tend to start surfing momentarily on a steep or breaking wave then the progressive force of the JSD will stop it gently like a big Bungy Cord and allow the wave to pass by. If you had deployed from the Bow, the boat will start to surf backwards on the wave. Rudders are NOT designed to surf backwards, and will be violently forced to hard lock, making the boat veer sideways on a wave.. and possibly snap the rudder stock if violent enough.
      - The Bridal Y type attachment to port and starboard sides of transom is better at keeping the boat aligned with the wind & waves,

    • @andrewwilson1835
      @andrewwilson1835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      In big seas Parachute Anchors have been known to pull out of the face of a wave when the wave frequency or period matches the rode length. That is dangerous and the JSD won't do that

    • @cjyoung7372
      @cjyoung7372 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @andrewwilson1835 thanks for that with your explanation it makes a lot more sense I just assumed that boats were designed to face the waves and that is why you set a sea anchor accordingly

  • @JohnJones-s5y
    @JohnJones-s5y 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of my reasons for wanting a pilot house on my boat. Who wants to be out in that weather?

  • @lloydholland6475
    @lloydholland6475 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi Guys great stuff , do you get scared when like this ?

  • @andrewwilson1835
    @andrewwilson1835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Given that you say 20% of Parachutes were ripped, do you think there is a better material for this, or the mini chutes needed better hemming, stitching, or webbing attachment to central rode?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I guess there should be better material

    • @claverton
      @claverton 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The early advice was to make them out of ripstop nylon without a hem but a lot of users reported frayed/damaged cones. Latest advice is to make them out of dacron with a taped hem on both the leading and trailing edges of the cones and apparently this solves the durability issue. Also some are using dyneema rope which obviously has big advantages in weight and storage, but getting a dyneema JSD back into the boat needs to be thought through

  • @dougsrepair1060
    @dougsrepair1060 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is easy to fantasize, but difficult to imagine without truly knowing your life can change by the next wave.

  • @thosoz3431
    @thosoz3431 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Impressive footage.
    Great advertisment for modern passage planning.

  • @АЛЕКСОу-й7д
    @АЛЕКСОу-й7д 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks for the interesting video! Tell me please, what height the waves were! And what is your opinion of the PSD?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      The waves were 10 - 12 meter hight. After the storm we found that twenty percent of the cones were ripped apart but the JSD worked very well.

  • @ChasingContours
    @ChasingContours 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hi. On occasion I see a small yellow object popping out of the waves? It doesn't look like the first cone. Looks larger. What is that?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's our Horseshoe life buoy. It got caught up. And yes we for some nasty cross swells

  • @xfoxtrotwiskeykilo995
    @xfoxtrotwiskeykilo995 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Kickass video ! How do you retrieve it ?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      We just waited until the quiet morning after the storm and used a winch.

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Took about 30 minutes for 1 person.

  • @massimolucamattioli5236
    @massimolucamattioli5236 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very instructive. Thanks. May I ask how long it took to remove JSD?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We removed it after the storm and even the next morning. I guess it took half an hour.

    • @marianoschaller9066
      @marianoschaller9066 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JannekeBrouwer87 have you tried to put a thin line atached to the begining of the droge line? Then you pull this litle line in, so the droge does not take water as you are pulling in onboard. I never tried it, but sounds like it could work.

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@marianoschaller9066 I wouldn't do that. Getting it in was just half an hour work with a winch. Another thin line connecting to the jsd would be tangled and make the drogue loose its strength / the chances to failure would be bigger. I would never connect another line to the drogue.

    • @andrewwilson1835
      @andrewwilson1835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@marianoschaller9066the only issue I've heard of with trip lines or recovery lines is the risk of entanglement and the Drogue not working as designed.. I would rather suffer the 1/2hr recovery than risk the entanglement issues.

  • @stevejackson2694
    @stevejackson2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow! Now that you’ve been through this, would you knowingly sail into a storm with this possibility again?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Well we were 'unlucky' to end up in this storm, and I would never try to find a storm like this. But I would definitely try to go around Cape horn again or sail any other oceans if I would get the chance. Unfortunately I can't afford my own boat yet. If someone needs a crewmember... Send me an email at brouwerjanneke@live.com. :)

    • @stevejackson2694
      @stevejackson2694 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@JannekeBrouwer87 I’m saving for one as we speak, it will take 5-years but everyday I get to think of a new adventure I will have

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@stevejackson2694 sounds great! I wish you all the best with preparing and finding the right boat :) and don't hesitate to contact me if you like help or advice

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I have to say I like storms since I was a small girl and I would rather die because of a storm like this than bacause of sitting at the couch at home. At least I had a life in which I did what I love. To go around cape Horn will probably always get you into 2 or 3 storms and this will get more and stronger (because the ocean gets warmer). I'll advise you to try asap.

  • @sergerobitaille2214
    @sergerobitaille2214 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for posting the video...never had to use our drogue... wondering about how often you had the "oh oh" moment with what appears to be a breaker hitting you from your starboard quarter ?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well I guess we had those 'oh oh' moments every 5 - 10 minutes for 2 hours. Some not bad at all and some quite rough. But the drogue could handle it and we weren't scared to role over. Even though we had gales up to 56 knots. The drogue went around our last rudder once... That was our biggest challenge.

    • @andrewwilson1835
      @andrewwilson1835 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@JannekeBrouwer87do you have any idea how that happened.. was there some spring back from the JSD that allowed enough slack to go under the rudder..
      Also.. how did you free it, or did it free itself?

  • @RameyFamily
    @RameyFamily ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m amazed the weight of your gigantic balls didn’t drag you to the bottom here
    Cheers to you for maintaining your calm and pressing onward (even if that’s the only thing to do)
    I haven’t sailed in those conditions yet and I intend to avoid them at as best I can but I hope I do the right things if I am in it

  • @andreveen5656
    @andreveen5656 ปีที่แล้ว

    Respect!

  • @E12_Sterling
    @E12_Sterling ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great footage, must have been a worrisome moment! Letting the drogue further out would have allowed a softer ride, all good experience even from behind a desk!

  • @steveolson1395
    @steveolson1395 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow - where was this?

  • @goaro2007
    @goaro2007 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Size of the boat model? thnaks

  • @Safaier-zx5qf
    @Safaier-zx5qf 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Indicó ? Atlántico ? Pacifico ? Very good serie jordan

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pacifico. 40.45 S 97.57 W on 9 februari 2018

  • @ChasingContours
    @ChasingContours 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks also like you getting some cross swell and some breakers at perhaps 45 degrees. Nasty.

  • @tom-3027
    @tom-3027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video. Was the drouge attached to a custom chainplate or was it secured to the aft cleats?

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The drogue was attached to the aft cleats.

    • @tom-3027
      @tom-3027 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@JannekeBrouwer87 thank you for the reply

  • @amnatapundit67
    @amnatapundit67 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is your boat? Thanx...

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is was sloop Taya. She's at the bottom of the ocean now. We lost 2 rudders (aluminum boat, in the salt water for 7 years) and we're saved by a freighter. Read stories at www.dejongebrouwer.com

    • @egoneckert
      @egoneckert 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JannekeBrouwer87 ...that site seems unaccessible to the public, unfortunately.

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@egoneckert Yes, at the moment it is. I can send you the story by email.

  • @psystealth
    @psystealth ปีที่แล้ว

    good video showing the drogue... is too buoyant, hence the continuous slack on the two/bridle ropes!!

    • @jaysonlima7196
      @jaysonlima7196 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      not from the look of it no, it seems to be deployed correctly on a bridle. What it looks like may be happening is that it the length of scope is occasionally falling out of sync with the sea state, not an entirely preventable occurrence in those conditions, especially seeing that there is at least a mild cross set to the seas. which would make them fairly unpredictable in height, period, and direction.
      The line doesn't appear to be coming dangerously tight in the surges either which is also good... well for a given value of good anyway.

  • @robheirbaut8525
    @robheirbaut8525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I've never encountered more than 6bft on the North sea. The waves were impressive. On video, they look like nothing. Waves don't impress much on video. Image how this waves looked in real life.... oh boy.

  • @andrewwilliams9419
    @andrewwilliams9419 ปีที่แล้ว

    3-4 footers!

    • @brevardfencecompany
      @brevardfencecompany 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You accidentally put a dash in the middle of

  • @SoloSailorDave
    @SoloSailorDave ปีที่แล้ว

    😯

  • @janggeunlee533
    @janggeunlee533 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A drogue anchor is used when anchoring a ship in deep water and prevents the ship from capsizing to port or starboard due to strong winds and large waves.

  • @rhadash
    @rhadash 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can see the bridle going slack. How much weight did you add? did you hear about the JSD failure and Susie Goodall had to be rescued.

    • @sergerobitaille2214
      @sergerobitaille2214 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Susie's JSD parted before she was rolled...failure most likely due to shafting according to her report.

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alan Cresswell added the full chain that they delivered with the drogue. We put it out the evening before the storm came and removed the drogue the next morning. 20%of the small parachutes needed to be replaced

    • @joeblow1942
      @joeblow1942 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sergerobitaille2214 What does "shafting" mean?

    • @helmrichharms2225
      @helmrichharms2225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@joeblow1942 'chafing' is what Serge obviously meant

  • @joanblaas2377
    @joanblaas2377 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Heb je blog gelezen en dan deze video... brrr

  • @ardaucar5307
    @ardaucar5307 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wouldn't it be better to have 15 parachutes in a row

    • @JannekeBrouwer87
      @JannekeBrouwer87  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This Jordan series drogue has 120 parachutes in a row. After this storm 20% were ripped. I think 15 would be less safe.