Regardless of how good the new healer echo is, Bell-Borne will still be your best bet on Hologram bosses. Nothing can really beat 1-shot prevention in that kind of content
Yeah with Rover spectro outro skill we get like a few sec time stop then follow it up with any resonator with the new spectro echo your basically Dio and Jotaro at that point.
@@TheOriginalGabberjaw Not getting a drop is slightly annoying... but not as much as getting the set you do NOT want. Your "first 15 kills a week" doesn't solve the main issue, unfortunately.
@@PLBiohazard yea true I like heal bonus on my inferno rider just as much as you, but guaranteed drops at least make you spend less time with rotating bosses...
Hey man I know it feels like sh*t to get the wrong set but try using deff and moonlit set bell born on taoqi it's pretty useful in toa when you want to save verina\baizhi for hazard and fourth levels and the problem is not dealing damage but taking damage randomly with lvl 70\80 characters that I use for level 2 and 3
I swear they somehow swap the RnG droprates for stats. For the turtle finding a rejuvinating one with healing bonus feels like an SSR drop because i either get right set but crit stats or the wrong set (moonlit). But when i'm farming dps set echoes healing bonus stat drop like flies lol
@@gd_ashynx I do too, only 28 which is enough but I'd rather use it for a much expensive / grind-ier to farm than boss mats. And I've stored that 480 waveplates for weeks since I use some of the ordinary 240 for the double event.
Translation: The hold mode "oraora" consumes STA( Stamina ), if it can be swapped isn't it going to be a bit dangerous for the next resonator as they can run out of STA ( Stamina ) to dodge ( I did this as a joke, just to be clear )
The thing is, I don't farm the bell purposefully. I just get a ton from needing the drops... It's weird how few characters use the new weekly bosses. Xiangli Yao even went back to Scar.
Not really related to the video, I think there are many ways to improve performance of some echoes that made people feeling frustrated to use, which I'll list down my ideas of how to fix it here, hope you guys enjoy and if you feeling generous, file a suggestion to Kuros so they also see this: Thundering Mephis (TM) - Fix the casting condition so it is the same as the version in Illusive Realm, meaning that you can manuver between dodging, dealing DMG and unleasing an attack from TM. This would open up alot of combos surrounding quickswap from a character casting TM to another character, then swap back to cast the next TM attack. This also allow you to reposistioning your character and aim for an attack window to unlease the echo attacks. And finally for some QoL effect - allow TM to scale off the caster's Liberation DMG, which amplify it DMG even more. Inferno Rider (IR) - It is already good enough, but it could be better, so maybe letting the echo scale off the caster Normal ATK DMG and let the Hold version of the echo able to be recast to launch the motorbike toward the enemy (still dealing 1 instance of DMG like how the normal Hold version end) to be more active when you want to escape the riding mode. This also allow you to force the buff effect out faster in exchange for losing 2 initial hit from the echo, which balance out the frontload buff.
Lampylumen Myriad (LM) - I wish there is a better Glacio 4 cost soon, but fixing the old one also good and will benefit all the Lingyang-main outthere. Fixing this would be quite difficult, but maybe increasing it tracking ability for the 3 consecutive ground slam, so you wont actually miss the attack when the enemies blink away. Also let the freezing effect linger longer so it is actually useful in fierce fights. Finally, let it be a 1-click attack and is swapable, so you can cast it for the first hit to land, then swap to your supports while the LM doing it job CC-ing the enemies. These ideas are to make all the same cost echoes is somewhat equal to each other, and not letting one being the inferior version of the other and completely become trash. They are technically free for all so it isnt an issue when it come to balancing patchs in gacha games.
1:03 that's the case for pretty much every character EXCEPT the healers. As long as you have the correct main stat the Echo is completely fine, and it's not a huge team downgrade if you don't have great substats. Generally you just want Energy Regen + the stat their healing scales with (ATK or HP) as both the main and sub stats. The 4 cost can be Healing Bonus or the stat their healing scales with. It's not like a main or sub-DPS where you want Elemental DMG main stat + really need good Crit substats on every piece, ideally also with Energy Regen/ATK%/correct DMG% substats alongside them.
It should also be good for teams where each member contributes to the DPS e.g. Yohou, Yinlin, Xiangli Yao. All can be built for decent damage and scale off of attack, so one member on Fallacy (healing set) and another on Bell Borne (moonlit) can improve each teammates dmg instead of funneling all buffs into a single hypercarry.
5:50 I was mostly dismissing the new echo given that it only gives a 10% Atk & 10% Energy Regen bonus, but thats actually an excellent point i didnt account for. Aside from the tradeoffs you mentionned, Bellborne is also a significantly more flexible echo to use than Heron, given that it doesnt need to be swap canceled, which can prove very valuable on already swap-cancel heavy characters like Moonlit Yinlin & Changli. It can also be used to cancel most animations, which can also prove a great boon on such characters. Definitely farming a Moonlit Bellborne now 👍
7:20 Also worth noting that, judging from the leaks, the Echo has both a "tap" and "hold" condition, with the hold releasing the flurry of attacks we see in the trailer, and the tap only the final hit. Both providing full buffs. I assume the hold mode might be a better filler for concerto/energy gain on some characters like Shorekeeper, Baizhi, or Taoqi, while the tap mode will act as the default outside of that niche
I really do hope that the echo feels good to use otherwise it’ll be a shame, finally getting an on set healing bonus rejuvenating glow echo only to not receive the buff because of the cast time. But if it’s anything like the Impermanence Heron quick swap then we should be fine. Once again great video as always
i cant wait to see people running this on the over world well because shorekeeper is a healer we can expect that the echo is base on the character hp "im a healer but" the bell is characters defense.
Is it a must farm? I mean if youre getting Shorekeeper youre going to be killing it a bunch for materials anyways so its basically a two birds with one stone situation. You get materials to ascend Shorekeeper and you also get the echo win/win
I'm using a moonlight set zhezhi 44111 setup with heron and turtle. once I've farmed this boss for my healer, i am definitely using the turtle as the main echo for zhezhi. 😍
I've been trying to get on-set healing bonus Bell since WuWa's release, and didn't get one until this version's Malleable Echo event rewards where I finally got one...for free basically. I'm losing my mind
Fallacy gonna be a must have for shorekeeper cause her crit buffs depend on her energy regen. So buff the energy regen for Shorekeeper is équivalente to buff both crit rate and crit damage for your team.
I'd probably just build FONR rejuv and Moonlit Turtle. Often times, I swap out of heron very late and leaving me haning in the air, literally. Plus, it gives 10% dmg boost to all team members compared to heron which only buffs one person. As long as you're decent in dodging,
Love that 1- / 3-cost echoes get a phantom form but then Kuro knows... WE know, that we aint ever summon them in the real world 😂 its still cool though (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ )
since the start of the game i still don't have a Geochelone healing set with healing bonus main stat, i only get healing bonus main stat on the energy regen set.
Hopefully, it'll drop Healing Bonus main stats more often than that cursed Bell Turtle, because at this point, I’ve had better luck getting Wi-Fi in a tunnel than getting anything decent from it!
glances at my xiangili yao using thundering mephis for the funsies but yeah i as with everyone have a bunch of geochelones, i actually havent fought it that much i just keep getting them from the daily quests, i dunno what it is but ive gotten so many of that and dreamless from them, and a couple jues too. my running around the world and doing waveplate things team is xiangli yao and taoqi, and i use moonlit geochelone for that, i pretty much never have to heal but verina is there also using geochelone and i never swap to her bc shields shorekeeper is gonna be a go and explore team type of character too, given the whole plant collecting as butterfly ability, and were gonna have a bunch of fallacies anyways bc ascension materials, so having a pretty good one is basically a guaruntee if you pull her and you can equip it for doing the not very time intensive and such regular daily activities and itll work fine, so even if its clunky theres also not really any point not to just build a decent one to have
@@Gheniel_ oh fair, I don’t have her so she’s not in the front of my mind. Why would he not want that roll then? Also you’re in like every wuwa comment section
Im seriously wondering to the side if I ever gonna pull for shore keeper, my fear is using ny lost 50/50 guaranteed on her and losing a chance for camellya. On one hand I would love a new support, but im scarce of resources and credits rn. But on the other I want a new support to be more flexible early cuz I got Verina somewhoat built and Baizhi now has both 2 piece Moonlit and Glow set updated for extra heals per second. Ill wait it out and see if I can
My Verina has no problem with Energy regen,. I guess thats why they say kids are full of energy. So im fine keeping the bell turtle on her. But if I get shorekeeper, I might look into farming the new boss for her. Hopefully its an easier farm that the Turtle.. That thing takes like a a hundred hours just to pull itselt out of the ground.
im sold its only healing set i have so many moonlit clouds bellborne that i have nothing to do with maybe they can be useful now as an actual option over heron maybe i can actually get a good healing echo set now
I could be wrong but i got the feel our lady of the shore is a bit too hyped. I keep hearing she's a must pull but i don't know,i 'm not convinced. Ez skip for me, waiting for redhead N°1.
Actually this is great since we can have two Healing bonuses now at the same time by using the 5-pc Rejuvenating Glow (44111) 🤣 so yeah my Baizhi is really gonna love this 4-cost echo 😘 even though she will not be using this as her primary echo though 😅
since that's shorekeeper's boss, i'll definely get ~15 echo drops. hopefully, one of them is a HB mainstat. my bell echo doesn't have good rolls anyway
Haven’t played since launch lost first 50/50 got jiyan lost another 50/50 on the second 5 star release woman in red. Forgot her name. But playing again and for sure will get shorekeeeper this time with only 4 pulls til hard pity
It’s cool and all but it simply will not be better than turtle unless you desperately need that er to hit sk buff requirements, that atk is minuscule compared to the independent damage multiplier and one shot prevention of turtle
Do we know the duration yet of the Fallacy buff? Turtle only lasts 15s, in a lot of teams by the time you swap to your maindps that buff is almost over since it doesn't line up with the 30s buff from sustain characters. I would already say Fallacy is better if the buff lasted for 30s
I thought shorekeeper was a character that needs a lot of energy regen? Does she not? And i think this new echo is a great echo for a dps baizhi.... I may or may not be building a dps baizhi...
I have not been able to get even a decent RG set for Jianxin. So many bell turtles.... (I'm stuck using 2 parts of both Moonlit and Lingering, with a Moonlit bell turtle because it's the only ATK% one that turned out okay with tuning...but goddamn, it's trying to get those 3 cost echoes with ATK% that's truly awful)
We will see but probably fallacy. The question will probably be : it is better to the point of spending a lot of echos mats on it when you already have the bell with good sub stats or not?
Hrmmm... Maybe we can cook with healing set spectro rover and this echo. Spectro rover has a heal baked into one of their resonance chains, so you can get the echo set buff while also playing spectro rover more like H rover: ie mash burst then echo and swap off for a good chunk of dmg.
@@pfortunato78 If your definition of suboptimal is the echo skill's damage scaling off the wrong stat, then the geochelone is suboptimal on every healer since it scales off DEF%.
@@saintontas Nah dog, this isn't it. The Geochelone's multiplier is trash for dmg regardless. The new one likely has a significantly better multiplier do to the number of hits (otherwise, it would do like 10 dmg a swing).
Regardless of how good the new healer echo is, Bell-Borne will still be your best bet on Hologram bosses.
Nothing can really beat 1-shot prevention in that kind of content
Isn`t oneshot protection built in into Shorkeepers kit?
@@Novashi Yes
Shorekeeper… has 1 shot prevention.. what r u on?
@@roseblackkillerxx1972 Even if there is a built in, why wouldn't you want 3 more in Hologram content?
@@saintontas because u can just… dodge???
the JOJO reference is in wuwa Kuro know what they are doing
Yeah with Rover spectro outro skill we get like a few sec time stop then follow it up with any resonator with the new spectro echo your basically Dio and Jotaro at that point.
@@NICSU667 Kuro definitely did their research on this
@NICSU667 we can use it with Xiangli Yao since his ult does "stop" time
An healing set Echo that buff atk, and farming it is free.
And he ask if it's a must-farm?
Should we say yeah or hell yeah? lol
Good luck with the layers of RNG
@@finalavanger6803nah bro im built different (got the echoes i needed for a useable Xiangli Yao in 240 waveplates)
@@finalavanger6803it'll probably take only one week
@@finalavanger6803 infinite farming though so realistically its just time consuming
@@finalavanger6803 why though? you only need decent substats. not really needing godly rolls for shorekeeper
JOJO!? MUST FARM... Nothing else 🗿
🤝
Based
Will be funny people will make mistakes without the bell and die in game.🤣
Not really I barely use verina in my main teams, I rarely need healing or support
@@AceEffect it's about holograms man... They oneshot if bell born is not in effect
Well some of them oneshot even with bell born lol
@@AceEffectis this a joke, u know she buffs dmg right? Even if u get hit 0 times she is still needed for dmg buff
@@fadgjl840 she is in my team but I rarely swap to her
If I lose 50/50 for shorekeeper I will destroy the servers
Edit: I won,
Thank me
destroy them by buying so much lunite that it crashes them, right?
good luck for you man. I'm living on hopium to win the 50/50 for both shorekeeper and camellya too. hopefully we get what we want
"shenra tensei"
Lingyang will be seeing you shortly
@@saintontaslmao didnt something like that happen with Yinlin?
I lost my goddamn mind farming that stupid Geochelone for Baizhi
I'll take a boss with a guaranteed Healing set any day of the week
@@PLBiohazard just make sure every week the FIRST 15 KILLS are the bosses you wanna farm, its guaranteed that many times per week
@@TheOriginalGabberjaw Not getting a drop is slightly annoying... but not as much as getting the set you do NOT want.
Your "first 15 kills a week" doesn't solve the main issue, unfortunately.
@@PLBiohazard yea true I like heal bonus on my inferno rider just as much as you, but guaranteed drops at least make you spend less time with rotating bosses...
Hey man I know it feels like sh*t to get the wrong set but try using deff and moonlit set bell born on taoqi it's pretty useful in toa when you want to save verina\baizhi for hazard and fourth levels and the problem is not dealing damage but taking damage randomly with lvl 70\80 characters that I use for level 2 and 3
I swear they somehow swap the RnG droprates for stats. For the turtle finding a rejuvinating one with healing bonus feels like an SSR drop because i either get right set but crit stats or the wrong set (moonlit). But when i'm farming dps set echoes healing bonus stat drop like flies lol
You use the Bellborne for the buffs.
I use it so I won't die.
We are not the same
Zeus: Build Another Echo Set, submit!
Kratos: I'd rather d!e
I fully stored my 480 extra waveplates so I could spawn farm the boss
You don't need to use waveplate for farming echo though....
But well... You need this boss material to build shorekeeper anyway....
@@gegerkamfret It is the boss materials. Since Shorekeeper and Youhu needed that boss mats
@@Aasta_raLuck Youhu uses Lampylumen Myriad
I still have 42 crystal solvents I never touched them lol
@@gd_ashynx I do too, only 28 which is enough but I'd rather use it for a much expensive / grind-ier to farm than boss mats. And I've stored that 480 waveplates for weeks since I use some of the ordinary 240 for the double event.
The hold mode "oraora" Is consume STA, if its can be swap didnt its going to be a bit of dangerous to the next reso gonna run out of STA to dodge
Dude my head had a meltdown trying to decipher your grammar....
@@TheOriginalGabberjaw 😂
Translation:
The hold mode "oraora" consumes STA( Stamina ), if it can be swapped isn't it going to be a bit dangerous for the next resonator as they can run out of STA
( Stamina ) to dodge
( I did this as a joke, just to be clear )
@@TheOriginalGabberjawI was like:
Why are there so many "is"s?
I doubt you're ever gonna run out of STA
im 6 pulls in with a dream
The thing is, I don't farm the bell purposefully. I just get a ton from needing the drops... It's weird how few characters use the new weekly bosses. Xiangli Yao even went back to Scar.
Not really related to the video, I think there are many ways to improve performance of some echoes that made people feeling frustrated to use, which I'll list down my ideas of how to fix it here, hope you guys enjoy and if you feeling generous, file a suggestion to Kuros so they also see this:
Thundering Mephis (TM) - Fix the casting condition so it is the same as the version in Illusive Realm, meaning that you can manuver between dodging, dealing DMG and unleasing an attack from TM. This would open up alot of combos surrounding quickswap from a character casting TM to another character, then swap back to cast the next TM attack. This also allow you to reposistioning your character and aim for an attack window to unlease the echo attacks. And finally for some QoL effect - allow TM to scale off the caster's Liberation DMG, which amplify it DMG even more.
Inferno Rider (IR) - It is already good enough, but it could be better, so maybe letting the echo scale off the caster Normal ATK DMG and let the Hold version of the echo able to be recast to launch the motorbike toward the enemy (still dealing 1 instance of DMG like how the normal Hold version end) to be more active when you want to escape the riding mode. This also allow you to force the buff effect out faster in exchange for losing 2 initial hit from the echo, which balance out the frontload buff.
Lampylumen Myriad (LM) - I wish there is a better Glacio 4 cost soon, but fixing the old one also good and will benefit all the Lingyang-main outthere. Fixing this would be quite difficult, but maybe increasing it tracking ability for the 3 consecutive ground slam, so you wont actually miss the attack when the enemies blink away. Also let the freezing effect linger longer so it is actually useful in fierce fights. Finally, let it be a 1-click attack and is swapable, so you can cast it for the first hit to land, then swap to your supports while the LM doing it job CC-ing the enemies.
These ideas are to make all the same cost echoes is somewhat equal to each other, and not letting one being the inferior version of the other and completely become trash. They are technically free for all so it isnt an issue when it come to balancing patchs in gacha games.
1:03 that's the case for pretty much every character EXCEPT the healers. As long as you have the correct main stat the Echo is completely fine, and it's not a huge team downgrade if you don't have great substats. Generally you just want Energy Regen + the stat their healing scales with (ATK or HP) as both the main and sub stats. The 4 cost can be Healing Bonus or the stat their healing scales with. It's not like a main or sub-DPS where you want Elemental DMG main stat + really need good Crit substats on every piece, ideally also with Energy Regen/ATK%/correct DMG% substats alongside them.
Your videos are always good, I refresh youtube waiting for them👍
Bro The FoNR are literal jojo reference, that alone is a enough reason to farm for it
Spectro + Rejuvenating
Yes my Verina is ready to have a STANDO PAWA..!! 💪
It should also be good for teams where each member contributes to the DPS e.g. Yohou, Yinlin, Xiangli Yao. All can be built for decent damage and scale off of attack, so one member on Fallacy (healing set) and another on Bell Borne (moonlit) can improve each teammates dmg instead of funneling all buffs into a single hypercarry.
I think Fallacy has a hold version and a press version and I believe that you can get the buff with either version
5:50 I was mostly dismissing the new echo given that it only gives a 10% Atk & 10% Energy Regen bonus, but thats actually an excellent point i didnt account for. Aside from the tradeoffs you mentionned, Bellborne is also a significantly more flexible echo to use than Heron, given that it doesnt need to be swap canceled, which can prove very valuable on already swap-cancel heavy characters like Moonlit Yinlin & Changli. It can also be used to cancel most animations, which can also prove a great boon on such characters. Definitely farming a Moonlit Bellborne now 👍
7:20 Also worth noting that, judging from the leaks, the Echo has both a "tap" and "hold" condition, with the hold releasing the flurry of attacks we see in the trailer, and the tap only the final hit. Both providing full buffs. I assume the hold mode might be a better filler for concerto/energy gain on some characters like Shorekeeper, Baizhi, or Taoqi, while the tap mode will act as the default outside of that niche
I’ve been playing this game for too long to not know which echos provide damage buffs
Same
I really do hope that the echo feels good to use otherwise it’ll be a shame, finally getting an on set healing bonus rejuvenating glow echo only to not receive the buff because of the cast time. But if it’s anything like the Impermanence Heron quick swap then we should be fine.
Once again great video as always
dont worry it has an instant cast and the ora ora for some flavour
I have seen some leaked gameplay of it and the stat screen showed that it will have an instant cast and hold button, also damage scales of HP
Remember that , shorekeeper 5 auto perferdoge will solve the bell's 3 hit problem ❤❤❤
Shorekeeper with FoNR: I'm a healer, but these hands are rated E for everyone
i cant wait to see people running this on the over world
well because shorekeeper is a healer we can expect that the echo is base on the character hp
"im a healer but"
the bell is characters defense.
Is it a must farm? I mean if youre getting Shorekeeper youre going to be killing it a bunch for materials anyways so its basically a two birds with one stone situation. You get materials to ascend Shorekeeper and you also get the echo win/win
ill be using them on sk and go ora ora while she domains expansion everything
Baizhi buff yay!
I'm using a moonlight set zhezhi 44111 setup with heron and turtle. once I've farmed this boss for my healer, i am definitely using the turtle as the main echo for zhezhi. 😍
There's a chance that you can still sustain the attack of the fallacy as you press hold then swap like the impermanence heron.
I've been trying to get on-set healing bonus Bell since WuWa's release, and didn't get one until this version's Malleable Echo event rewards where I finally got one...for free basically. I'm losing my mind
Echo is basically Crazy Diamond
May everyone pull a max sequence Shorekeeper in a single 10 pull
Fallacy gonna be a must have for shorekeeper cause her crit buffs depend on her energy regen. So buff the energy regen for Shorekeeper is équivalente to buff both crit rate and crit damage for your team.
Nah... I got up to 264er on verina with healing set it's already more than enough er for shorekeepers buff limit
A revamp thundering methis that acts like the one in the illusionary realm would be perfect for Calcaro.
I'd probably just build FONR rejuv and Moonlit Turtle. Often times, I swap out of heron very late and leaving me haning in the air, literally. Plus, it gives 10% dmg boost to all team members compared to heron which only buffs one person. As long as you're decent in dodging,
i didnt even know bellborne had buffs before this vid.. i just needed a shield
Love that 1- / 3-cost echoes get a phantom form but then Kuro knows... WE know, that we aint ever summon them in the real world 😂
its still cool though (▀̿Ĺ̯▀̿ ̿ )
Agree with you to a certain extent, but I dunno, I'm tempted to get the Gulpuff one and test it out sometime. It looks super cute!
on the electro set, I always prefer summoning the 3 cost than the 4 costs
ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA
since the start of the game i still don't have a Geochelone healing set with healing bonus main stat, i only get healing bonus main stat on the energy regen set.
Finally my verina will be able to touch grass instead of being thrown into fights against god
Hopefully, it'll drop Healing Bonus main stats more often than that cursed Bell Turtle, because at this point, I’ve had better luck getting Wi-Fi in a tunnel than getting anything decent from it!
glances at my xiangili yao using thundering mephis for the funsies
but yeah i as with everyone have a bunch of geochelones, i actually havent fought it that much i just keep getting them from the daily quests, i dunno what it is but ive gotten so many of that and dreamless from them, and a couple jues too. my running around the world and doing waveplate things team is xiangli yao and taoqi, and i use moonlit geochelone for that, i pretty much never have to heal but verina is there also using geochelone and i never swap to her bc shields
shorekeeper is gonna be a go and explore team type of character too, given the whole plant collecting as butterfly ability, and were gonna have a bunch of fallacies anyways bc ascension materials, so having a pretty good one is basically a guaruntee if you pull her and you can equip it for doing the not very time intensive and such regular daily activities and itll work fine, so even if its clunky theres also not really any point not to just build a decent one to have
I killed Fallacy 8 times and got Healing Bonus 5 of those times, Crit Damage twice, and one DEF....much easier farming.
Wow i could tell it was you just from the thumbnail lol
1:03 Excuse me, PAINFUL?
That’s a dream roll right there.
Don’t know why bro rolled on atk anyway
Verina healing is based on her attack, that's probably why.@@Rascalli
@@Rascalli maybe he wanted to build support/healer jianxin? Idk 😂
@@Gheniel_ oh fair, I don’t have her so she’s not in the front of my mind. Why would he not want that roll then? Also you’re in like every wuwa comment section
He was talking about building echoes
Not that one echo he has
Finally 44111 set goes brrr
i doubt they wont make you able to move with it
its a summon afterall
This video is SO PEAK...
As long as it can be swap cancelled i am picking it up.
what concerns me the most is how i need a healer in each team and basicly run verina in each team :(
If you ever feel bad for losing a 50/50, remember: I play since day 1 and haven't win a single 50/50 yet.
Depends how to proc the echo, if it's anything like thundering memphis then it's going to be straight trash. Nothing can beat bellborne instant cast
Im seriously wondering to the side if I ever gonna pull for shore keeper, my fear is using ny lost 50/50 guaranteed on her and losing a chance for camellya.
On one hand I would love a new support, but im scarce of resources and credits rn. But on the other I want a new support to be more flexible early cuz I got Verina somewhoat built and Baizhi now has both 2 piece Moonlit and Glow set updated for extra heals per second. Ill wait it out and see if I can
My Verina has no problem with Energy regen,. I guess thats why they say kids are full of energy. So im fine keeping the bell turtle on her. But if I get shorekeeper, I might look into farming the new boss for her. Hopefully its an easier farm that the Turtle.. That thing takes like a a hundred hours just to pull itselt out of the ground.
The ORA ORA ORA ORA ORA is worth the sacrifice...
Healing bonus for Rejuvenating glow...
That's hell mode grinding.
😢😢😢😢😢
I swear to god if I lose the 50/50 I’ll cry all day
Nah I'll farm regardless because of that cool animation xD Glad that Bell-Borne is not powercrept tho
Geochelone is pronounced like it rhymes with "felony"! Geo-KELL-uh-nee
Moonlit turtle on jiaxin is quite good
im sold its only healing set i have so many moonlit clouds bellborne that i have nothing to do with maybe they can be useful now as an actual option over heron maybe i can actually get a good healing echo set now
I could be wrong but i got the feel our lady of the shore is a bit too hyped. I keep hearing she's a must pull but i don't know,i 'm not convinced.
Ez skip for me, waiting for redhead N°1.
Gonna use Yao slow down and than this Echo, And play jojo music
STAR PLATINUM
If i lose 50/50 for shorekeeper that mean camellya is guaranteed so still a win in my book
hadn't considered moonlit geo on sub dps
Actually this is great since we can have two Healing bonuses now at the same time by using the 5-pc Rejuvenating Glow (44111) 🤣 so yeah my Baizhi is really gonna love this 4-cost echo 😘 even though she will not be using this as her primary echo though 😅
since that's shorekeeper's boss, i'll definely get ~15 echo drops. hopefully, one of them is a HB mainstat. my bell echo doesn't have good rolls anyway
Another two possible attribute echo? Getting healing main stat is already hard to get as it is.
Kuro's website shows only one sonata set for the Fallacy, so it looks like it'll be far easier to farm.
Thats nice then 😁
Haven’t played since launch lost first 50/50 got jiyan lost another 50/50 on the second 5 star release woman in red. Forgot her name. But playing again and for sure will get shorekeeeper this time with only 4 pulls til hard pity
People are probably gonna start running it with bellborne on the other sett is my guess
The free ER from the Heron is actually so powerful that the turtle could just be phased out.
Turt - Defense
Fallacy - Offense
me just waiting for the builds from guide sites :D
if i lose the 50 on everyone’s soul the game will shut down
It’s cool and all but it simply will not be better than turtle unless you desperately need that er to hit sk buff requirements, that atk is minuscule compared to the independent damage multiplier and one shot prevention of turtle
i had 7 healing bonus for moonlit before i got 1 rejuvenating glow turtle. which I got from daily rewards...
I’m gonna have him on my zhezhi
Do we know the duration yet of the Fallacy buff? Turtle only lasts 15s, in a lot of teams by the time you swap to your maindps that buff is almost over since it doesn't line up with the 30s buff from sustain characters. I would already say Fallacy is better if the buff lasted for 30s
it's 20s
I thought shorekeeper was a character that needs a lot of energy regen? Does she not? And i think this new echo is a great echo for a dps baizhi.... I may or may not be building a dps baizhi...
I have not been able to get even a decent RG set for Jianxin. So many bell turtles....
(I'm stuck using 2 parts of both Moonlit and Lingering, with a Moonlit bell turtle because it's the only ATK% one that turned out okay with tuning...but goddamn, it's trying to get those 3 cost echoes with ATK% that's truly awful)
More choices ='s more fun
The problem is not farming echo. The problem is farming exp echo T_T
I prefer 4,4,1,1,1 echoes set so I think it will be worth it
TIL Geo can drop rejuv set /s
Guys, why my shorekeeper look so strange? Why she look like Sephiroth? 😢
So what's better the turtle or the fallacy?
We will see but probably fallacy. The question will probably be : it is better to the point of spending a lot of echos mats on it when you already have the bell with good sub stats or not?
i dont care about anything as long as i can get my hands on camellia
Hrmmm... Maybe we can cook with healing set spectro rover and this echo. Spectro rover has a heal baked into one of their resonance chains, so you can get the echo set buff while also playing spectro rover more like H rover: ie mash burst then echo and swap off for a good chunk of dmg.
Honestly, I'm thinking about a triple DPS quickswap team with S. Rover on Rejuv.
@@saintontas Apparently, this new echo's dmg scales off of HP though so... its suboptimal on everyone but Shorekeeper and Baizhi.
@@pfortunato78 If your definition of suboptimal is the echo skill's damage scaling off the wrong stat, then the geochelone is suboptimal on every healer since it scales off DEF%.
@@saintontas Nah dog, this isn't it. The Geochelone's multiplier is trash for dmg regardless. The new one likely has a significantly better multiplier do to the number of hits (otherwise, it would do like 10 dmg a swing).
The turtle still the best. Dmg boost is wayyy too huge compared with just attack bonus.
WuWa ruined 4-Cost Echoes
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Bro must've failed getting a healing bonus geochelone
I can see that's the new title 😂
First invented and then ruined them. Devs listened so much the cooking is overdone. /jk
What's a healing geochelone
- An atk % er set geochelone
Is there a way to use the FoNR echo's hold version on controller without holding the BA button?
If i lose to shorekeeper then i will wait for 2.0 characters
Heron do not lose buff when swap
I hate farming the god dam turtle
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The make or break will be the activation. If it's utter garbage, it will stay utter garbage.
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its better playing the video 1.25x