i hate him with every ounce of my being because he bullied he tried to poison neville's pet because neville was insecure even though snape had full knowledge that neville parents had been tortured into insanity AND that neville had watched his grandfather die
Many people claim that Snape is only popular because in the films he was embodied by Alan Rickman and the fact that he was „nicer“ than book Snape. I just became a real fan after reading the books. In my opinion, there is no character that is more complex than him, and as JK said, he‘s all grey. Neither bad nor good. And I think that’s the reason he‘s many people‘s favorite character.
Rickman, though he was an amazing actor, was one of those people who couldn't hide his good nature to do his job. That's far from a bad thing; he rounded out Snape's character rather well, giving him a more human feel that Harry couldn't comprehend until far later in the books.
EXACTLY! I just love those very complex grey characters cause they reflect what humans actually are, we are not in a black and white world we are all grey, other people are nice but had done some bad things and bad people despite being bad had good in them at some point maybe they still do and that's the interesting part about grey characters cause you can play with their character arc snape is of course a good example to the point the snape defenders and snape haters are still in a heated argument to this day, I'm no snape hater nor a snape defender since they tend to forget snape did some wrongs I more in between I acknowledge he did good AND bad which is just what a human is lol
I think that Snape actually was a bad person. I mean, he was a bully who treated people horribly...unless they were in Slytherin. He just wasn't an evil person and didn't intend to do real harm. One thing that I find interesting is that Harry learned to be really good at potions from him because of his old textbook, but Snape's character & teaching style, i.e., being a bullying asshole the whole time, kept Harry from learning much at all from Snape in person. He knew his stuff, but he was a horrible teacher.
@@futuresonex yeah, he was a horrible teacher and he bullied his students. He was an asshole, too. But he wasn’t only a bad person. It’s just like in the real world. People who had a bad past can be influenced by what they had go through. It’s no excuse for his behavior but I think that’s the point.
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My favorite moment of his character, is when he tells Dumbledore that the only people he watched die under the deatheaters hands are the ones he couldn't save (without blowing his cover) and Dumbledore is surprised, meaning that he saved lives of his own will instead of just being orders by Dumbledore, and weren't necessary either to save Harry. So I do think that he was on the right path to becoming a better person, and it's a shame he died so young.
Fact 6 - Severus saved Lupin's life in the seven potters when they were transferring Harry to the Tonks house. I don't know if this was clarified in the movies.
And he cut off George's ear in the process. He saw a Death Eater pointing his wand at Lupin preparing to kill so he sent a Sectumsempra at that Death Eater's hand that ended up hitting George
One of the biggest things that movie watchers miss in regards to Snape is his age. Alan Rickman was 54--65 when playing the role, Snape is 31-38 in the books. The character being younger might explain his petty/childish/vindictive behaviour and also makes his accomplishments a lot more impressive.
That is true, though despite the actor's age, that doesn't change the age of the character he's playing. Mind you, I think they were careful with how each story was presented; everything had to be crammed into a smaller time frame with entire character thought processes and book readings being converted into camera-friendly plausible story-advancing equivalents because a movie can't get into a character's head with the same depth and freedom a book has.
The biggest thing I've noticed in the books is Snape did evil grins and smirked a lot. I can't recall one time that snape remotely smiled in the movies.
Snape's memories was the best part of the movie. I wish they'll make a series out of it including his interactions with the Malfoys of Gryffindor. Er, I mean Marauders.
The way he just stepped over James' corpse and ignored that crying, desperate child next to him? I don't see anything good or romantic about this scene, sorry
I'm sorry did u just compare the marauders with malfoys? Have u ever read any of the books? Malfoys were spoilt rich BIGOTS!!!They treated muggleborns like scum. Quite opposite to that marauders fought for muggleborns . They never discriminated (take Remus for eg).
Is that from Goblet of Fire? I think he never did though, did he? I remember Harry constantly fretting THIS time, no THIS time he's going to poison me for real, and he never did
I agree that book Snape was not as redeemable or likeable as Alan’s version.Both Snapes are interesting characters, but its Alan Rickman’s portrayal that makes him such a fan favorite. That scene when Lily dies...his “always”... I think if anyone else played him, he would not have been so likeable. And the fact that Rickman passed also adds to it.
The only problem with Alan Rickman playing Snape was just that he was too damn old for the role. Snape would've only been 31 or 32 years old in Harry's first year at Hogwarts. He was only 38 when he died. They did the same thing with Harry's parents. They should've been 21, but the actors were nearly 40!
@@futuresonex correct. If I had to choose an actor to play Snape, who maybe couldn‘t replace Rickman, but fit the role better by means of age or looks, I would opt for either Benedict Cumberbatch or Matt Smith. Both are capable actors, who very likely could mail the role. Cumberbatch would probably be the better fit, though.
@@gi0nbecell the problem with Cumberbatch is that he was only 23-25 during the making of the first Harry Potter Movie, he hadnt done any work in either movies or TV shows and hadn`t had any major roles in theater. He was considered a big tallent but hadnt dony enything up to that time that varented a key role in Harry Potter. Mat Smith is 6 years younger than Cumberbatch aka he was 19 back in 2001.
@@MotRi1986 cumberbatch being in his mid-20s would have been suitable. Just remember Snape should have been about 31 in Philosopher‘s Stone. Would be an interesting reboot, just for the sake of recasting. Some actors are recurring, though - even if they appear in different roles. I can immediately see roles for Olivia Colman (definitely a teacher, probably McGonagall), Matt Smith (not completely sure, but Firenze or Lupin?), Jodie Whittaker (Trelawney, maybe), Cumberbatch (again, Snape), David Tennant (anything, but probably his „counterpart“: Mad-Eye), Mandip Gill is a candidate for one of the younger adults, think Tonks, Stephen Fry is Slughorn (was a missed opportunity, there). Hugh Laurie would be the most amazing Mr Filch. Matt Lucas would be a perfect fit to finally bring Peeves on the Silver Screen. Peter Dinklage as Professor Flitwick. Kit Haringtom as Sirius Black. You could argue to bring Helena Bonham Carter back as Bellatrix, but alternatively one could cast Alex Kingston. Then Karen Gillan as Lily Potter for the few flashbacks. Jenna Coleman, Freema Agyeman. Alfie Allen as Bill or Charlie Weasley. Jack Gleeson could play a perfect Lucius Malfoy, alternatively Harry Lloyd. Hafþór Björnsson as Hagrid. Imagine Sean Bean as Dumbledore. Basically, you can recycle half the GoT-Cast, throw in a bit Doctor Who, and you get a perfect, younger cast for a reboot. The only sad thing is that Eddie Redmayne in burnt, he would fit in perfectly as well.
@@futuresonex The 7th book said how old they were but that didn't come out until about six years after the first movie. Blame JKR for not telling the ones doing auditions how old they were.
i honestly hate him for example draco cursed hermione's teeth to grow like 10x the size and when snape saw this he said "I see no difference" which caused hermione to permanently modify her teeth with magic. he also tried to poison neville's pet
The first fact is absolutely ridiculous. Suppose I’m bullying somebody and just beating the living day light out of him, but oh, now I can tell others that I saved his life by pulling a punch. That is the exact same analogy that you just used. Absolutely ridiculous.
Snape let it slip because it was cursed The fact that it was cursed doesn't mean that the teachers leave , it means that something bad happens which results in their leaving Ex - quirrel dying Lockhart's memory being wiped etc
Video idea- what happened to Hogwarts after the battle? When was it rebuilt? How was it rebuilt? Who rebuilt it? What happened to the students in school at the time? I've been asking for ages
@@gamingbeastlol you could've just leave the duh's out. I think it's a fair question. I've never read/seen anything about this and I have read/seen lots of books/articles/videos about Harry Potter
I originally fell in love with book!Snape because of his savage sarcasm. Then Alan became my favourite actor because I liked his portrayal of Snape so much, proceeded to watch mor films with him and found he was utterly and incredibly talented. Snape is Snape, Alan is Alan, but Alan portrayed the perfect film!Snape - do I make sense? After over 10 years of loving Snape, there is more that I like about this character than I can possibly write down, but Lorrie Kim wrote a book that sums it up quite well 😉 🖤
Yes, excellent book! Everyone should read it, if you like Snape or not. It lists book by book all the things he did and said, and how he righted them afterwards.
Alan Rickman did a great job with the script Snape - remember, the books had not all been written yet when they started filming the first movies! But the Snape in the books is much more complex than could ever be shown in movie format. IMO, the books show him as very human, struggling to reconcile his own traumatic past (being incessantly bullied in school, coming from a less-than-loving/stable homelife) with his present as an adult, while still maintaining his role as a double agent. It was his love for Lily that steered him back from his life as a death eater, but having to protect the son of his greatest rival and biggest bully from his past, who also looked almost exactly like him? Why do you think he had Harry look into his eyes as he was dying? He wanted to see Lily’s eyes, not James’ face. But he had to do everything he could to hide his true intentions in order to remain in Voldemort’s good graces, and Dumbledore even alludes to this at the end of Goblet of Fire (book version) when he tells him to “play his part” convincingly. All through the books, you can see his love for Lily conflicting with his absolute hatred of James, and the resulting behaviour/actions towards Harry.
Rickman was the only person Rowling told the planned ending of the story to when they started filming the first movie. He played all eight films knowing Snape's big secret, even when no one else knew.
I agree but I think he wanted to look into Harry’s eyes more as a last acknowledgment that Harry’s deepest nature was more like Lily’s, like Dumbledore had told him. When Dumbledore first talks about Harry having Lily’s eyes it seems like Snape can’t bear it, and he calls him “Potter’s (James’) son”, but towards the end he calls him “Lily Potter’s son”. I think by looking into Harry’s eyes he was reminding himself that he was dying for the goodness in her that was also in Harry.
My English teacher in high school had a trust Snape sticker on the board. I hated that sticker. But then I was like, damn she was right. That's why she's the teacher after all lol
I guess Die Hard was one of his first films. When he was supposed to fall out the window, they said they were going to count to three and then drop him. They didn't count all of the way to three, so the terror on his face is actually real.
'Showed very little indication that he valued human lives'? Huh? That's the whole point of "Lately, only those whom I could not save" where he regrets not being able to do more. I prefer and love book Snape over movie's. Alan was phenomenal tho. Point 3 : While his hatred for Lupin is part of the reason, he kept the secret with himself for more than a decade. He only revealed it after he heard Remus saying that he deliberately concealed info about Sirius & endangered the school the whole year.
Do not forget that no one knew the Marauders were animagi except them (being unregistered) . SO, when it is revealed later, even Snape didnt know until Wormtail found the Dark Lord and it was made known among the Death Eaters.
No. Lupin did not conceal information about Sirius. Snape is the one who made that statement. In the "prisoner of Azkaban" , Lupin said that he believed Sirius was a murderer until he saw "Peter Pettigrew" on the map.
@@stevenbass732 Huh? What statement? Remus knew about the secret passages and Sirius Black’s animagus. That’s the information he concealed, even though he believed Sirius was a murderer. He basically endangered the whole school, especially Harry. In fact, he didn’t say anything even after Sirius was seen with a knife over Ron’s bed.
@@stevenbass732 Lol, that's not an opinion. It's in the books🤷🏽♀️ Remus himself admits that in chapter 17 or 18 in PoA.
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One thing I wished was included in the movies, and proves that Snape was on the right path to become a better person, independantly of his redemption toward Lily : He tells Dumbledore that the only persons he has seen die at the hands of death eaters, are the ones he couldn't save (without blowing his cover), and Dumbledore is surprised, so.. 1. he didn't do it under Dumbledore's orders and 2. those people's life were not necessary to protect Harry
@@fullmoon5799 they refer to the quote "lately only those I couldnt save" that snape says when dumbledore asks him how many people he has watched die, its a demostration that snape cares about saving as much people as he could, regardless of what dumbledore asks him to do or not.
On the flip side, the movies had Snape asking Dumbledore to save all of the Potters, rather than just Lily. In the book, he didn't even consider having Dumbledore save James and Harry until Dumbledore called him a "disgusting little man" for wanting only Lily protected
Yes! Harry's perspective was only what he could see, which obviously didn't include Snape's motivations, backstory, and other internal factors. The movie version is just as cannon to me for that reason. Alan Rickman brought the complexity that Harry was unable to see.
That's right about book being Harry's perspective. Even Lupin told Harry he was blinded by his hatred for Snape...and he was. How Harry could not see how Snape was looking out for him is a mystery. He even said in the first movie, "Snape was trying to save me?". I think Hermione was aware of what was going on, although she did set him on fire! She says Snape may be mean, but he's not evil. She and Harry, Ron, may have had doubts when Snape killed Dumbledore, but even after that there's signs. Snape didn't give him away when they were leaving the tower,. He wouldn't fight Harry and only deflected his attacks, when Bella cast the crucio spell, Snape said "NO", and the pain left Harry. Later when they were searching for the horcruxes, they heard that Snape as headmaster, was sending students to be "punished" at Hagrids. Snape didn't attack only deflected McGonagall's spells and took out 2 death eaters, AND swooped down and took their wands. Last but not least, Snape didn't tell Voldemort who the true owner of the elder wand was, sacrificing his life for Draco, Harry and the wizarding world. I think the trio put some of this together, that's why Harry approached Snape as he was dying
@@serfurgiblurge Snape never killed anybody as a death eater. He was a SPY for Voldemort....you don't waste a good spy by have him get his hands dirty by killing people. Snape took a chance asking Voldemort to spare Lily. He couldn't very well spare Harry, could he? That's s why he went bro Dumbledore for help in saving all of them, and he could have if wormtail hadn't ratted them out! Snape promised he'd do anything to save them, and he did,even though Lily died. Like he told Dumbledore, he spied for him, he lied for him, and risked his life every day for him. He more than paid his debt to Lily and sacrificed his life for her son, Draco too, and the wizarding world.
Alan Rickman's acting was fantabulos. RIP SIR❤️🙏🏻 His acting is one which makes starting movies interesting and when series comes to end, we get to see his best I have cried a lot for 'em. So touching. That hand just reach our 💓
I read the books way later after watching the movies. Snape in movies never really made any impression for me till the last one which involved Snape's memory. However, book Snape was relatable for me and for some reason, his actions made sense for whatever he had gone through in his adolescents. Of course, James' pride and pranks were no good reason to bully Harry. But Snape's bitterness is reasoned in the book for James nor Sirius ever apologied to Snape for being such scumbag to him. Snape himself didn't have a great childhood, and when he was in a place where he could feel belonged for his magical abilities, his peers bullied him simply "for existing". Yet, in GOF, when Harry told Snape that Padfoot was in danger, Snape, despite hating Sirius, went to help in ways that he could. He kept the Order a secret and was working against Voldemort. Yes, Snape tipped off Voldemort regarding the prophecyabout Harry, but he lived a guilty life ever since and all he requested was to protect Lily's child. He made Harry miserable in school because Harry resembled James, the person who tormented him. But then there were a lot of scenario where Snape protected Harry, and that was only because Harry was the child of the only person he ever loved. Book snape was complex, humans are complex. No one can be all good, no one can be all bad. Life and situation affects people and book Snape was the only character that portrayed this throughout the seven books. With due respect, I still admire Alan Rickman's portrayal of the shady character. However, like I mentioned earlier, book Snape made a lasting impression for me. This has nothing to do with the actor, but it rather lies on the telling of the story. 🙂✌
Alright Imma elaborate on the “James saving Snape’s life” thing. What happened was Snape was getting very interested as to where Lupin was going every month, so Sirius seeing an opportunity, told him to go to the shrieking shack to get his answer. When James found out about this, he went to get Snape right before Lupin’s wolf form could kill him at a great risk of his own life might I add. So Snape arguing he only did it to save his own skin kinda falls apart when you see how Sirius would’ve been the one who got in trouble if anyone found out what happened (which I assume Dumbledore did cause he’s basically all-knowing) so there was no reason for James to go help Snape at all.
Yea. A sensible take on this. Both James and Sirius went out of their way to protect Remus in a way not mirrored by any students in my experience. Sirius' actions were dangerously stupid and could have resulted in Snape's death, but which troubled 15-year-old from an abusive home and trying with no guidance to forge his own path away from his evil family would be different?
"indeed, you are a much braver man than Igor Karkaroff. You know, sometimes I think we sort too soon." said Dumbledore, leaving Snape looking stricken. I rolled laughing at the idea that Snape's reaction that he could've made a great Gryffindor.
@@TheJetsetter I interpreted his stricken look as the realization that he easily could have been in the same house as Lily and not the same house as the Death Eater crowd
The James Potter saved his life thing is overrated. Snape's life was in danger in the first place because of James and Sirius. If I remember they tricked Snape into going into the place where Lupin would turn into a werewolf while he transformed. It just turned out James had a little bit more of a conscience than Sirius so he intervened. Nothing to give James too much credit for, really just reflected very poorly on Sirius if anything
Yes, no credit to James. He wasn't doing it out of the goodness of his heart at all. More so to prevent Sirius and Remus from getting into a LOT of trouble.
B.s. that was Sirius’s fault and JK said that James and Lupin didn’t talk to Sirius for a while because they were so mad at him. In the end James died a hero, working for the order and sacrificing himself for his beloved wife and child.
@@mazal312 How exactly did he sacrifice his life? He didn't save his family did he? In fact he simply got in Voldermort's way and paid the price, not very heroic Lol.
@@ticketyboo2456 He was ready to face Voldemort without a wand to give his wife and child a chance to escape, to survive. Thats the definition of heroic.
I think that Snape in the book was a much better representative of his true nature, while movies have an effect of elevating characters unintentionally
I love the Snape book by Lorrie Kim, she analyses every bit of book Snape. If I remember correctly, she states that Lupin resigned first thing in the morning and that Snape let the secret slip at breakfast later. I recommend reading that book, it's really interesting!
The Owls were already coming to the Headmaster's office when Lupin resigned. It is also left out that Snape was going to get an ORDER of MERLIN Medal that the Golden Trio thwarted when Sirius escaped
My favorite character in both the books and films. He is so enigmatic and difficult to pin down in the books, which makes him fascinating, but also much harder to like as we only see him from Harry's perspective, sneering and tormenting students. I agree that Alan Rickman's performance was outstanding, quite possibly the best in the films, and was definitely more likeable than book Snape. He was severe and disdainful, yet capable of empathy, which was not evident in the books. I love how, in spite of his words/actions in the films, you could see in Rickman's face/eyes there was more going on than what was evident on the surface. Still kept you guessing, just with a more likeable presentation of the character.
Yessss, I just bought The Chamber of Secrets as a gift for my sister, and previously, I've offered her two versions of The Philosopher Stone! And she promised me she will read the entire series!
In all honesty, I think Snape is quite a complex character. In the movies, certain things were not explained well but in the books, of course, it's easier to understand these complex characters. When he dies for example, in the books he begs Harry to look at him because he wants to see Lily's eyes once again. In the movies, he said "you have your mother's eyes", which is something he never said as he never acknowledges to him that he actually met his mother. I'm not sure he really cared about anyone else except for himself/Lily, as he said to Dumbledore that "after all this time, he still loved her" (when they talk about Harry's future) but can we blame him? He grew up in an abusive environment, with his parents constantly arguing. The only person that never bullied him, was Lily. He didn't have friends in school, maybe because he was poor, because he was a mudblood, we only know that the first "friends" he has are all future Death Eaters and that's the point. The only love he had from another human being was from Lily :(
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I've always found Snape to be a complex, fascinating character. Over the course of reading the books, I found myself actually liking the asshole and genuinely admiring him by the time I'd finished them despite his shortcomings. When I saw the movies, I went completely starry-eyed very quickly and even became attached to the character as I got further into them. I blame how I got so attached to Snape through the movies on Alan Rickman, of course, but that's also part of Rickman himself shining through. The man's always been one of my favorite actors and has always lent a ..groundedness, I guess, to every role he's played. RIP Alan Rickman
I loved him from the start too, while reading the books. I'm new at this game. Read and watched all the books and movies this last October. After I saw Alan as Snape in the movies, I automatically pictured him in the rest of the books I hadn't read. Love Snape immensely....and adore Alan.... RIP
Snape was a fairy princess in the movies compared to the books, he literally bullied Harry in the books and did everything he could to piss Harry and the other Griffindors off. RIP Alan Rickman, you were amazing person
Brilliant video! I love everything about Severus Snape, no matter how bad he was with Harry and the rest...his complexity is so magnetic and there is some kind of magic and secret in all his existence! Can you please make a video comparing Snape and JK Rowling’s chemistry teacher she hated so much?
I have a theory about the book Snape versus the movie Snape. JK took almost 10 years to write the whole series. Maybe she felt she was portraying Snape a little too harshly for the readers to accept him more at the end. Once you have something published, you can't go back and change it. Perhaps she knew if Alan Rickman played Snape he would round out some of book Snape's rough edges.
Okay but the thing about remius happens in the movie too, Snape speeds the lesson plan up by 6 months according to hermonine to study were wolfs, to point out lupin to try to get the kids to tell their parents to fire lupis
Random question: if you make an unbreakable vow and break it (therefore killing you) yet you have an active horcrux, will it kill your body like Avada Kadavra does or something else entirely? Maybe breaks through the effects of a horcrux somehow... I don't really know but want to know
I prefer the movie version because of Alan’s softening of the character. I have read the books many times and some of the Snape book bits are very hard to read emotionally.
Yes, Prof. Dumbledore did say that Snape felt he owed James a debt for saving his life. It is not stated how James did it. Also, that was one of the reasons I started reading the books after seeing the first movie. Somethings were just not explained fully. The scene where Snape corners Quirrell is changed in the movie.
There's a deleted scene from Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone movie during Harry's first potions class. I really wish they'd kept it in as it introduced Snape and highlighted the hatred between Harry and Snape from the off start.
Personally I think Snape relaying the message to the OOTP members was pretty obvious in the movies tbh even though it wasn’t clarified. The rest I agree with.
One very important difference: Snape is much younger in the books. He‘s the same age as the marauders, that means, they are in their thirties. Of course, Lupin looks withered, due to his werewolf status, Sirius looks way more worn due to the years spent in Azkaban, and Peter was a rat for the same amount of time. The books never clearly state the age (until Harry and Hermione visit James‘ and Lily‘s grave), but Snape is the one with the least troubled life, having spent all the time that wore out the Marauders at Hogwarts, well fed and safe. He may be „greasy“, but he should look at most as old as Lupin. Rickman, brilliant as his Snape was, was already in his 60s when he took the role. He nailed it, sure, but there’s no denial that he was way older than Snape should have been.
Just because they didn’t directly say it in the movies doesn’t mean it wasn’t still the case. I’m pretty sure Snape still cost Lupin his job, and that he alerted the order about Sirius.
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I loved Severus Snape as a character, but that's it. I enjoyed to read the way he was written, the depth and complexity he had. Even more I loved the actor for the way he managed to portray him. But I hated him as a person. To me, from all characters in Harry Potter, he was the most detestable personality wise because while at some point in life life he was bullied, he became a life-long bully himself of not just one child, but countless children who were already struggling with their own issues. I had teachers like him. The type of teacher that makes a student not only hate him or the class, but actually installs permanent fear and self-doubt. The kind of teacher that makes student not want to go to school, to skip classes just because the very thought of being in front of that person terrified them. The sort of teacher that creates disorders in their own students who are growing up and just trying to find themselves in the world. From staring, making remarks in front of everyone, being biased to just down right not having any good qualities as a teacher, especially considering the importance his class had. That can never be excused or redeemed to me. Like others may see him as a hero, some pitful victim etc, but to me those are just excuses that don't excuse his behavior. Yes, he was a well-written character and I'm aware of what Rowling intended him to be in the end, but unfortunately she failed because he was more bad then good.
I've had teachers like that, and I've taken my daughter out of public school and began homeschooling her to get her away from poisonous teachers like that. The biggest draw for me is more of a psychology thing, what makes them tick and why, but I'm not going to endanger myself or anyone else to slake my curiosity. I think that's why I love characters like that, they aren't real people I have to put up with on the regular lol.
People still keep forgettting that Snape was not only bullied, but a bully himself, which was one of the reasons maruders hated him so much. Even Lily mentioned it in one of the memories
Do not forget that he was a bully a professor. He bullied students, particularly Gryffindors in addition to showing high favoritism towards his own house. Let’s not also forget that scene in the third book when Snape threatens Neville by saying that his pet toad Trevor will die if Neville doesn’t brew the potion correctly. Perhaps this scene might’ve happened offscreen in the films, but considering the book clearly shows this scene, it demonstrates how cold Snape is in the books compared to his film counterpart.
@@ackerose she also said that he doesn't have a problem with insulting other half-blooods and muggleborns, and while his friends* were bullies he was always with them, didn't even tried to stop them. To me it makes him equally quilty
I was always amused how quickly the people snap from hating Snape to admiring him as some sort of Hero who redeemed himself completely from all bad. I feel thats really, really wrong. He was a troubled man and most of his redeeming qualities stemmed from a one sided love interest / obsession. People too quick to forgive him. He was gladly accepting the death of Harry and James as long as Voldemort spares Lily. He was terrible towards the students and went out of his way to make Harry's life miserable just because he looked soo much like James. His love interest winds up more creepy than romantic in the end, in my oppinion. He is brave, yes he is and ultimately did the right thing, protecting Harry and fighting for Dumbledore. But in the end Snape was still a bitter and terrible person. His character is colorful but falling from hating him as one of Harry's tormentor then swapping over to the opposite end of the scale doesn't do his character any justice. He became a death eater willingly and it is obvious that Voldemort respected him over the rest of the lot. What kind of things you must do among the Death Eaters to rack up such a respect from The Dark Lord himself?
Slipping Lupin's secret to the Slytherin's was more of a revenge on Dumbledore. The man constantly ignored him thorough the whole year and finally at the end of the year he again chose to side with his enemies. Snape knew that Dumbledore had something to do with Sirius' mysterious escapade. Immature response, but I sort of agree.
Not revenge. More like he was sick of Dumbledore letting the marauders get away with almost murder, and had enough of Lupin putting kids in danger. Snape while he wasn't nice and was verbally cruel, cared a lot about the the students phyical safety and Lupin was not just careless with students safety but had lied and kept important information from Dumbledore allowing a supposed mass murderer to enter the castle more than once.
@@marie.naturallysims2179 yes, that might be part of his reasons too. But I wouldn't put revenge past his character. Sometimes he was just plain bitchy :D
It’s possible that Snape let the secret slip with Dumbledore’s blessing, it would accomplish a couple of things: 1)Dumbledore would finally allow him to speak openly about Lupin being a werewolf after his near-death experience when they were kids, being silenced by Dumbledore all those years ago probably added to his trauma. 2) It would add to his cover story as a spy later on if people think he openly defied Dumbledore by outing Lupin. 3)It would steer attention away from how Lupin failed Dumbledore and endangered everyone. We’re told that Lupin resigned first thing in the morning which makes it sound like he resigned before Snape told his students that same morning. I think Lupin knew he had messed up and didn’t want to stick around.
@xXTenma'sShadowXx I don’t know, I still think it’s possible that Lupin, Snape and Dumbledore all realized that it was too dangerous to keep it a secret anymore, not even brewing the Wolfsbane potion every month was enough to keep everyone safe. Lupin says it would have come out anyway and admitted he had been sneaking off with his friends and endangered people even though Dumbledore trusted and protected him. But yes, Snape could have just been immature and vindictive towards both Dumbledore and Lupin (and I say that loving him too). We see how both Harry and Snape are haunted by their past when the Dementors are around and it becomes even clearer how Snape hasn’t moved on from how he was treated as a kid, or from Lily’s death, the thing that drove him suicidal and almost mad. He’s convinced Sirius is responsible not only for the nearly fatal prank on him but for Lily’s death and he’s willing to hand both him and Lupin over to the Dementors without listening to them.
Only thing that really bothered me was the death of Snape. It was badass in the book.. getting locked in a translucent sphere with Nagini. Instead of Voldemort slicing his throat and letting nagini finish him off, big let down
Not to mention, it would've been nice to have the location be the shrieking shack like in the book, I can see as to why it would've felt strange in the movie, but they could've done it nontheless
So you don't think Snape's death was brutal enough? I think it would be too bloody for kids to see if it happened the way it did in the book. They didn't even show that much blood in the movie either. If he bled out that quick, there would have been blood everywhere.... Which I for one, couldn't take. It was bad enough seeing him die.
Who has the best story in Harry Potter in your opinion guys? Mine is probably Dumbledore, his memories, explaining many things which lead up t the franchise, how he became the most powerful wizard to have ever lived and most importantly.... how he grew his beard!
I love both the books and movies. Alan Rickman's performance will always remain an absolute classic. His presence, height, demeanor, and, of course, that inimitable voice. That made the reveal of his true undercover work plausible. In the books, it required more suspension of disbelief. Not impossible, but Rickman made it much easier.
I just wanted to add a little note to the comment that Snape made Lupin lose his job. Snape telling everyone that Lupin is a werewolf was unacceptable, however Lupin was destined to only teach for one year. If I remember correcty, Tom Riddle cursed the position after he wasn't given the post of DADA professor himself. Everyone that was appointed that post afterwards would only be able to teach for one schoolyear. Snape made Lupin lose his job, but he would've lost it either way.
Maybe Curse triggered that Snape would tell about Lupins condisions. He might not told it couse he was still loyal to Dumbledore even he Hated Luping. But Curse triggered that petty Vengeance to be acted out.. Thats my Theory about it.
All of the characters were complex. Harry had flaws, Ron, Hermione, Dumbledore, Snape, Harry's dad James, Sirius, Peter, Remus, even Petunia and Dudley showed a sliver of heart. The only one who didn't have anything negative attached was Harry's mom. Everyone who ever talked about her loved her and even Snape at his worst still did everything in her memory.
I feel like the 2nd, 3rd, and 5th points were all implied pretty heavily in the movies as well. All you have to do is ask yourself "Why was this bit of dialogue said?" But also, Snape wasn't directly responsible for Lupin losing his job. The position was cursed. Lupin wouldn't have kept his job regardless. Snape outing him was a result of the curse. And a relatively minor one at that. He probably had the best outcome of all of the holders of the position.
Fact 3: Lupin would've lost his job anyway, since the Defense Against the Dark Arts post was cursed. If Snape didn't tell everyone about his secret he could've ended up like Quirrell or Lockhart.
I don’t know who that drawing is of. Sleep in the books is literally Alan Rickman. Snape in the movies is Alan Rickman. Snape was just meant to be Alan Rickman.
I will grant you that Snape alerted the Order of the Phoenix when Harry and his friends went to the Department of Mysteries, but I have a problem with the timeline. According to the book, Harry got the vision of Voldemort torturing Sirius during his History of Magic exam, which started at 2:00pm. The test was almost over when Harry woke up, which I'm going to assume was about 4:00pm. Harry and the others are then captured in Umbridge's office, Harry and Hermione go into the Forbidden Forest with Umbridge, and the thestrals appear. Now, I don't know how long each of these take, but while they're flying, twilight fell and they go through the gathering darkness. Apparently, sundown in the U.K. in the summer is about 9:00-9:30pm. So, five hours have passed since Harry received the vision. The thestrals are clearly faster than the train, which takes about seven to eight hours to get to Hogwarts. I'm going to say that the thestrals took about four hours to get to London, so we're up to 1:00am. Then, Harry and his friends have to get through the many confusing doors of the Department of Mysteries, which I'm going to say took about an hour. This means they meet the Death Eaters around 2:00am. If the battle with the Death Eaters took about an hour, then the Order finally arrives at about 3:00am. If this part of the battle takes another hour, then Sirius dies at about 4:00am, which is also roughly when Voldemort and Dumbledore arrive for their duel. Another half-an-hour passes and Voldemort tries to possess Harry. Fudge comes in and sees Voldemort. Dumbledore sends Harry back to Hogwarts right around sunrise, which in the summer, is apparently 4:45am. So, what's my problem? I've just proven that Harry could've done all this in one night. Well, the thing is, why did it take Snape so long to alert the Order? Dumbledore claims that Snape learned that Sirius was fine right away. If Umbridge captured Harry around 5:00pm, Snape had four hours before Harry and the others leave. Yet, he doesn't tell the Order that Harry has left for hours. Look, you can't have it both ways. Either Snape took his sweet time before he told the Order, in which case, he put Harry in more danger, or Snape told the Order right away and they took their time, putting Harry in danger. If Snape and the Order were doing their jobs properly, the Order of the Phoenix would've known that Harry was heading for the Ministry at about 10:00pm. Tonks or Kingsley or someone could then wait for Harry outside the Ministry entrance and explain the situation to him. And the plus side: Sirius wouldn't be killed by Bellatrix.
@@JariDawnchild Good point. How was Snape supposed to know that Harry and the others would find thestrals? I just wonder why there was a five hour delay between Harry leaving Hogwarts and the Order arriving at the Ministry.
From what Dumbledore said, Snape contacted Sirius right away, mosf likely used the patronus charm to send a message to make sure he was fine. We don't know how long this took for the message to resch Sirius nor do we know how long it took Sirius to contact Snape, let him know he's fine. After this Dumnledore said Snape realised Harry must have gone to the department of mysteries when Harry hadn't returned from the forest. We don't know how long Snape waited until coming to this conclusion. We also dont know how long it took Snape and the Order to convince Sirius to say behind at Grimmauld place, plus the fact that they wouldn't be able to apparate or rush into the department of mysteries with a wanted "mass murderer" with them in case they bumped into the wrong people. And we don't know whether or not the Order went right away or decided to stay and wait for Snape to come back from searching the forbidden forest for Harry and co, especially considering the fact that Sirius would have stubbornly decided he was going to go with the Order to rescue Harry.
@@marie.naturallysims2179 All good points. I was going purely off of the time, since I just couldn't work out what Snape might have been doing for those five hours. He may very well have needed all that time to confirm that Harry and his friends had indeed headed for the Ministry. And Sirius wouldn't have made things easier for them. So, maybe Snape is a better person than I gave him credit for. I still don't like or trust him, but maybe he did all he could to help Harry in the Department of Mysteries battle.
I've read the books several times and pick up stuff with each reading. Snape was actually my favorite character from both the movies AND books. His death was the only one that had me in tears as well as the chapter "the princes tale." For anyone wanting a more in-depth look at Snape's probable motives, I would highly suggest reading Snape: A Definitive Reading by Lorrie Kim. It briefly goes over Snape in each book, the good, the bad and the ugly. Below is the book description from Amazon. The Harry Potter series may be named after the Boy Who Lived, but if you want to know the story, keep your eyes fixed on Severus Snape. This hook-nosed, greasy-haired, grumpy character is one of J.K. Rowling’s enduring gifts to English literature. He’s the archetypal ill-tempered teacher: acerbic, yet horribly, deliciously funny. When he’s in a scene, you can’t take your eyes off him. Snape is always the story. - From the Introduction In this examination of J.K. Rowling's most enigmatic character, Lorrie Kim shows us how to sort through the illusions and lies to the man who dared to spy on Voldemort and without whom, Harry's story would have turned out very differently. In his final moments, he asks Harry (and the reader) to "Look at me." This book does just that.
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I always thought that Harry is dumb. Like what did he expect from Snape? To tell in front of Umbrigde that yeah Harry I understand, Sirius is in danger?
Professor Snape reminded me of many male teachers I knew growing up as a English school kid, They wouldn`t allow such teachers in this era but I admired such teachers.
Book Snape was what life molded him into. He knew nothing but pain and misery all his life, the one little light he had in Lily, he fucked it up because he was so damaged and traumatized. His childhood was worse than Harry's and he too found a home for the first time in Hogwarts and finally felt like he belonged in Slytherin. Then he got bullied and it broke him, he got humiliated in the one place he felt safe and like home, and because he did not learn how to treat people and be with others, he lost his only shine of hope in Lily in the aftermath. Snape is the most tragic character imo and then its Dumbledore. That is why they were the perfect friends for each other. They both experienced immense pain and guilt all their lives. And just found purpose in defeating Voldemort, that was the thing that kept them going.
I mean... he saved his life, but got his life in danger in the first place 😂. I would be mad as well. You clearly don’t value someone else if it has to come to that...
Well, no, it was Sirius who thought it was a good joke. James realized it was too dangerous and intervened. Sirius is another "gray" character; he definitely had flaws.
If we're speaking of James saving Snape, than I do not agree. It was Sirius who put Snape's life in danger, not James. When James realized what was about to happen he rushed and rescued Snape.
@@glowormrdr6183 I do agree, though I wouldn't call Sirius a "grey" character. Every character has their own flaws, and so did Sirius. Putting Severus in danger was a very very bad decision, even though Snape was sticking his nose everywhere, trying to get them expelled. I think that Sirius was wrong to be a bully, but brave and strong enough to grow out of it. Even though Snape knew Sirius was innocent, he was still willing to hand him to the dementors.
Observation: By forcing Lupin to resign, he may very well have saved him from a worse fate, as the curse over the DATA role may have forced him out anyway. Not that Snape had this in mind or anything, but still. Kind of like a silver lining thing
I'm pretty sure James wasn't trying to keep himself and Sirius out of trouble. He was probably also trying to protect Remus from doing something he'd regret, even if it had been a mistake and he wasn't in control. Remus would have killed himself if he bit or killed somebody in his werewolf form.
But he certainly didn't do it for Snape, which is Snape's main point. James either A) got cold feet, B) was saving his own ass, C) was saving Sirius, D) was saving Remus. In none of these cases, did James stop it cuz the prank itself was morally wrong to Snape, the victim.
@@l.n.3372 Exactly. The ONLY reason James “saved” him was because if Severus had died then Sirius would be sent to Azkaban, Remus would’ve been executed and James would’ve been expelled. He couldn’t care less if Severus died or not, he only did that to save him and his friends.
@@cinnagrits Yep 100%. Snape himself says as much to Harry in book 3, chapter "Snape's grudge." Harry had the mistaken impression that James was acting noble or heroic. But in reality, James was saving his own skin and that of his friends, without really caring about Snape himself at all.
@@l.n.3372 Glad that someone understands! James “saving” Sev is extremely overrated and is just a dumb excuse James stans use to claim that he’s noble even though he did it only to save his and his friends’ butts.
I think on the issue of bullying one should also not leave out that the books give some additional information. First of all Sririus and Remud are allowed to put it in perspective. According to them Snape and the Syltherin gave as good as they got and knew quite a few curses. One should not forget the curse James uses in the memory seems to have been invented by Snape (based on the Half Blood Prince book, where it is writen in the margins and those are usually spells Snape invented). But more importantly the books have a memory between Lily and Snape. In this Snape tries to get Lily to forgive him for calling her a Mudblood. Lily takes Snape to task. She points out that not only does he call literally every other muggleborn Mudblood to their face (Snape's only defence is that he would not do it to her ...), but also that she is aware that Snape and his friends go around school and use Dark Magic on defenceless students (it is implied muggleborns). Something Snape calls: "Just haveing a laugh." So Snape is not just a poor victim here. He is also a bully who uses magic that is classified as dangerous with a group on victims as it seems for rascist motives. Also no defender of Snape ever included an explenation of why he joined the Death Eaters. As in a rascist terror organisation whose main goal is a genocide on muggleborns (while he claims to love a muggleborn ...). That is like joining the KKK after the civil war, participateing in the murder spree (whether active or on the logisitcal side is immaterial), but still claiming you are not rascist because you are obsessed with one afro american girl.
I haven’t read the books yet and I knew about Snape telling Voldemort about the prophecy, and I knew James saved Snape, but not for the reason listed here. The one I know was Snape being curious about why Lupin wasn’t around those days after a full moon and James saved Snape from the Whomping Willow
I remember Snape punishing Harry for something, I think in book 6. He had Harry sorting year books or something, and most of them that Harry had to sort, had James in them. Harry thought Snape was doing this in an attempt to be cruel, but he was actually trying to do something somewhat nice for Harry, while also punishing him for whatever he did wrong. I don’t believe this was in the movie at all.
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We don't have too much information about it but it seems that Hogwarts was repaired after the battle and eventually life resumed within the school. We know that Hermione and other students returned to finish their education properly while others like Ron and Harry moved on and took up Kingsley's offer to become aurors without the previously necessary school qualifications (Aurors really took a beating by then and Kingsley decided that those who fought at the Battle against Voldemort are all worthy to join and learn on the fly). McGonagall became the headmistress and by 2017 she is still in her position along with Hagrid. Around this time Neville Longbottom replaces the Herbology teacher and children of former students begin their education at the school. I think this is mostly all that we know. Anyone feel free to correct me or add if I am wrong.
I have only watched the movies at this time but I love the Snape from the movies very much. He is more than just a favorit character to me... My heart was broken two times: when Snape died and when I found out that Alan had died. I hope he rests in peace 😔❤️
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Snape in the books was a savage. Seriously though go read the books of you haven’t. Rest In Peace Alan Rickman.
Amen
I couldn’t agree more
I'm on book 7. RIP Allan
It was pretty hilarious in the books when he read Rita Skeeter's article about Harry and Hermione to the whole class after he confiscated it
i hate him with every ounce of my being because he bullied he tried to poison neville's pet because neville was insecure even though snape had full knowledge that neville parents had been tortured into insanity AND that neville had watched his grandfather die
Many people claim that Snape is only popular because in the films he was embodied by Alan Rickman and the fact that he was „nicer“ than book Snape. I just became a real fan after reading the books. In my opinion, there is no character that is more complex than him, and as JK said, he‘s all grey. Neither bad nor good. And I think that’s the reason he‘s many people‘s favorite character.
Rickman, though he was an amazing actor, was one of those people who couldn't hide his good nature to do his job. That's far from a bad thing; he rounded out Snape's character rather well, giving him a more human feel that Harry couldn't comprehend until far later in the books.
EXACTLY! I just love those very complex grey characters cause they reflect what humans actually are, we are not in a black and white world we are all grey, other people are nice but had done some bad things and bad people despite being bad had good in them at some point maybe they still do and that's the interesting part about grey characters cause you can play with their character arc snape is of course a good example to the point the snape defenders and snape haters are still in a heated argument to this day, I'm no snape hater nor a snape defender since they tend to forget snape did some wrongs I more in between I acknowledge he did good AND bad which is just what a human is lol
I think that Snape actually was a bad person. I mean, he was a bully who treated people horribly...unless they were in Slytherin. He just wasn't an evil person and didn't intend to do real harm. One thing that I find interesting is that Harry learned to be really good at potions from him because of his old textbook, but Snape's character & teaching style, i.e., being a bullying asshole the whole time, kept Harry from learning much at all from Snape in person. He knew his stuff, but he was a horrible teacher.
@@futuresonex yeah, he was a horrible teacher and he bullied his students. He was an asshole, too. But he wasn’t only a bad person. It’s just like in the real world. People who had a bad past can be influenced by what they had go through. It’s no excuse for his behavior but I think that’s the point.
My favorite moment of his character, is when he tells Dumbledore that the only people he watched die under the deatheaters hands are the ones he couldn't save (without blowing his cover) and Dumbledore is surprised, meaning that he saved lives of his own will instead of just being orders by Dumbledore, and weren't necessary either to save Harry. So I do think that he was on the right path to becoming a better person, and it's a shame he died so young.
Who knew the character based on the chemistry teacher that JK Rowling hated so much would become one of the fan favorites.
Always seems to be the chemistry teachers who suck for some reason
@@usayeed727 my chemistry teacher was great and very nice for some reason lol
@@usayeed727 my chem teacher was awesome
Man! Truely❤️
The fact that Rowling loves Snape too
Fact 6 - Severus saved Lupin's life in the seven potters when they were transferring Harry to the Tonks house. I don't know if this was clarified in the movies.
It wasn't and this is an awesome fact for the movie watchers
And he cut off George's ear in the process. He saw a Death Eater pointing his wand at Lupin preparing to kill so he sent a Sectumsempra at that Death Eater's hand that ended up hitting George
@@gugurupurasudaikirai7620 yes but he did not meant to do it.
@@Alt-yg5ng Yes, that was an accident. He was aiming for the death eater, not George.
he never did good for the sake of good. it was always in order of dumbledore since they were on the same side
One of the biggest things that movie watchers miss in regards to Snape is his age. Alan Rickman was 54--65 when playing the role, Snape is 31-38 in the books. The character being younger might explain his petty/childish/vindictive behaviour and also makes his accomplishments a lot more impressive.
That is true, though despite the actor's age, that doesn't change the age of the character he's playing. Mind you, I think they were careful with how each story was presented; everything had to be crammed into a smaller time frame with entire character thought processes and book readings being converted into camera-friendly plausible story-advancing equivalents because a movie can't get into a character's head with the same depth and freedom a book has.
The biggest thing I've noticed in the books is Snape did evil grins and smirked a lot. I can't recall one time that snape remotely smiled in the movies.
There were a few smirks, and those smirks were done amazingly well lol.
Alan smirked a few times
Snape's memories was the best part of the movie. I wish they'll make a series out of it including his interactions with the Malfoys of Gryffindor. Er, I mean Marauders.
Marauders minus the rat were better people than Snape ever was if you have ever read the books
Well sirius and James were bullies but I can't see Lupin compared to malfoy
The way he just stepped over James' corpse and ignored that crying, desperate child next to him? I don't see anything good or romantic about this scene, sorry
I'm sorry did u just compare the marauders with malfoys? Have u ever read any of the books? Malfoys were spoilt rich BIGOTS!!!They treated muggleborns like scum. Quite opposite to that marauders fought for muggleborns . They never discriminated (take Remus for eg).
@@sophieschade9111 that only happened in the movies.
He literally made his students make a antidote for themselves because he was going to poison one of them over Christmas.
Is that from Goblet of Fire? I think he never did though, did he? I remember Harry constantly fretting THIS time, no THIS time he's going to poison me for real, and he never did
Lmao
@@lichterin143 order of Phoenix
@@djentl0rd313 ah, alright. i don't remember that one well
@@lichterin143 he did try to poisen nevilles toad and whas disappoined when he didnt suffer or die
I agree that book Snape was not as redeemable or likeable as Alan’s version.Both Snapes are interesting characters, but its Alan Rickman’s portrayal that makes him such a fan favorite. That scene when Lily dies...his “always”... I think if anyone else played him, he would not have been so likeable. And the fact that Rickman passed also adds to it.
The only problem with Alan Rickman playing Snape was just that he was too damn old for the role. Snape would've only been 31 or 32 years old in Harry's first year at Hogwarts. He was only 38 when he died. They did the same thing with Harry's parents. They should've been 21, but the actors were nearly 40!
@@futuresonex correct. If I had to choose an actor to play Snape, who maybe couldn‘t replace Rickman, but fit the role better by means of age or looks, I would opt for either Benedict Cumberbatch or Matt Smith. Both are capable actors, who very likely could mail the role.
Cumberbatch would probably be the better fit, though.
@@gi0nbecell the problem with Cumberbatch is that he was only 23-25 during the making of the first Harry Potter Movie, he hadnt done any work in either movies or TV shows and hadn`t had any major roles in theater. He was considered a big tallent but hadnt dony enything up to that time that varented a key role in Harry Potter. Mat Smith is 6 years younger than Cumberbatch aka he was 19 back in 2001.
@@MotRi1986 cumberbatch being in his mid-20s would have been suitable. Just remember Snape should have been about 31 in Philosopher‘s Stone.
Would be an interesting reboot, just for the sake of recasting. Some actors are recurring, though - even if they appear in different roles. I can immediately see roles for Olivia Colman (definitely a teacher, probably McGonagall), Matt Smith (not completely sure, but Firenze or Lupin?), Jodie Whittaker (Trelawney, maybe), Cumberbatch (again, Snape), David Tennant (anything, but probably his „counterpart“: Mad-Eye), Mandip Gill is a candidate for one of the younger adults, think Tonks, Stephen Fry is Slughorn (was a missed opportunity, there). Hugh Laurie would be the most amazing Mr Filch. Matt Lucas would be a perfect fit to finally bring Peeves on the Silver Screen. Peter Dinklage as Professor Flitwick. Kit Haringtom as Sirius Black. You could argue to bring Helena Bonham Carter back as Bellatrix, but alternatively one could cast Alex Kingston. Then Karen Gillan as Lily Potter for the few flashbacks. Jenna Coleman, Freema Agyeman.
Alfie Allen as Bill or Charlie Weasley. Jack Gleeson could play a perfect Lucius Malfoy, alternatively Harry Lloyd. Hafþór Björnsson as Hagrid. Imagine Sean Bean as Dumbledore.
Basically, you can recycle half the GoT-Cast, throw in a bit Doctor Who, and you get a perfect, younger cast for a reboot. The only sad thing is that Eddie Redmayne in burnt, he would fit in perfectly as well.
@@futuresonex The 7th book said how old they were but that didn't come out until about six years after the first movie. Blame JKR for not telling the ones doing auditions how old they were.
Snape is literally my favorite and I've never clicked so fast when I saw him in the thumbnail😎 Alan Rickman played his character to perfection 😃
@Michelle Brits No one else could have played Snape like Alan Rickman.
Movie Snapes embodies a stern but protective fatherly figure especially when he takes Harry and Draco under his protection.
@@heatherduncan5101 Very true. Rickman was born for the role.
i honestly hate him for example draco cursed hermione's teeth to grow like 10x the size and when snape saw this he said "I see no difference" which caused hermione to permanently modify her teeth with magic. he also tried to poison neville's pet
and he called lily a mudblood
The first fact is absolutely ridiculous. Suppose I’m bullying somebody and just beating the living day light out of him, but oh, now I can tell others that I saved his life by pulling a punch. That is the exact same analogy that you just used. Absolutely ridiculous.
I don't consider Snape responsible for Lupin losing his job... he would eventually lose it after all, because of the cursed dada post
And Snape did make the Wolfsbane potion for Lupin also. Let's not forget that...
@@nathanielbarr497 exactly
Snape let it slip because it was cursed
The fact that it was cursed doesn't mean that the teachers leave , it means that something bad happens which results in their leaving
Ex - quirrel dying
Lockhart's memory being wiped etc
As I recall, it was cursed so that no one could occupy the post for more than a year
@@anasousa7306 he mixed in such a way that something bad would happen to whoever took the post
Video idea- what happened to Hogwarts after the battle? When was it rebuilt? How was it rebuilt? Who rebuilt it? What happened to the students in school at the time?
I've been asking for ages
Nice idea!
Brilliant
Love this idea!!
@@gamingbeastlol you could've just leave the duh's out. I think it's a fair question. I've never read/seen anything about this and I have read/seen lots of books/articles/videos about Harry Potter
@@gamingbeastlol bro you sound 5 with all the fucking “duh”
I originally fell in love with book!Snape because of his savage sarcasm. Then Alan became my favourite actor because I liked his portrayal of Snape so much, proceeded to watch mor films with him and found he was utterly and incredibly talented. Snape is Snape, Alan is Alan, but Alan portrayed the perfect film!Snape - do I make sense? After over 10 years of loving Snape, there is more that I like about this character than I can possibly write down, but Lorrie Kim wrote a book that sums it up quite well 😉 🖤
Oh god same, it's sad that they didn't include more of Book Snape's sarcasm, Alan would have nailed those lines.
Yes, excellent book! Everyone should read it, if you like Snape or not. It lists book by book all the things he did and said, and how he righted them afterwards.
Alan Rickman did a great job with the script Snape - remember, the books had not all been written yet when they started filming the first movies! But the Snape in the books is much more complex than could ever be shown in movie format. IMO, the books show him as very human, struggling to reconcile his own traumatic past (being incessantly bullied in school, coming from a less-than-loving/stable homelife) with his present as an adult, while still maintaining his role as a double agent. It was his love for Lily that steered him back from his life as a death eater, but having to protect the son of his greatest rival and biggest bully from his past, who also looked almost exactly like him? Why do you think he had Harry look into his eyes as he was dying? He wanted to see Lily’s eyes, not James’ face. But he had to do everything he could to hide his true intentions in order to remain in Voldemort’s good graces, and Dumbledore even alludes to this at the end of Goblet of Fire (book version) when he tells him to “play his part” convincingly. All through the books, you can see his love for Lily conflicting with his absolute hatred of James, and the resulting behaviour/actions towards Harry.
Rickman was the only person Rowling told the planned ending of the story to when they started filming the first movie. He played all eight films knowing Snape's big secret, even when no one else knew.
Agreed, he's very complex. He even chides Dumbledore over how he's "raising" Harry.
I agree but I think he wanted to look into Harry’s eyes more as a last acknowledgment that Harry’s deepest nature was more like Lily’s, like Dumbledore had told him. When Dumbledore first talks about Harry having Lily’s eyes it seems like Snape can’t bear it, and he calls him “Potter’s (James’) son”, but towards the end he calls him “Lily Potter’s son”. I think by looking into Harry’s eyes he was reminding himself that he was dying for the goodness in her that was also in Harry.
Severus is so controversial and I love it
My English teacher in high school had a trust Snape sticker on the board. I hated that sticker. But then I was like, damn she was right. That's why she's the teacher after all lol
@@ryanambsdorf2859 Wonder where she got that? I'd like one!
The best characters usually are.
I guess Die Hard was one of his first films. When he was supposed to fall out the window, they said they were going to count to three and then drop him. They didn't count all of the way to three, so the terror on his face is actually real.
That’s an awesome Alan Rickman trivia bit, but it’s not about Snape.
Book or movie, Snape deserves a second chance. Hos love for Lily was the key to Voldemort's downfall
hmm imagine what her & her friends were saying about Snape in private 😐
'Showed very little indication that he valued human lives'? Huh?
That's the whole point of "Lately, only those whom I could not save" where he regrets not being able to do more. I prefer and love book Snape over movie's. Alan was phenomenal tho.
Point 3 : While his hatred for Lupin is part of the reason, he kept the secret with himself for more than a decade. He only revealed it after he heard Remus saying that he deliberately concealed info about Sirius & endangered the school the whole year.
Do not forget that no one knew the Marauders were animagi except them (being unregistered) . SO, when it is revealed later, even Snape didnt know until Wormtail found the Dark Lord and it was made known among the Death Eaters.
No. Lupin did not conceal information about Sirius. Snape is the one who made that statement. In the "prisoner of Azkaban" , Lupin said that he believed Sirius was a murderer until he saw "Peter Pettigrew" on the map.
@@stevenbass732 Huh? What statement?
Remus knew about the secret passages and Sirius Black’s animagus. That’s the information he concealed, even though he believed Sirius was a murderer. He basically endangered the whole school, especially Harry. In fact, he didn’t say anything even after Sirius was seen with a knife over Ron’s bed.
@@ackerose Whatever you say.
@@stevenbass732 Lol, that's not an opinion. It's in the books🤷🏽♀️
Remus himself admits that in chapter 17 or 18 in PoA.
One thing I wished was included in the movies, and proves that Snape was on the right path to become a better person, independantly of his redemption toward Lily : He tells Dumbledore that the only persons he has seen die at the hands of death eaters, are the ones he couldn't save (without blowing his cover), and Dumbledore is surprised, so.. 1. he didn't do it under Dumbledore's orders and 2. those people's life were not necessary to protect Harry
What this suppose to mean
@@fullmoon5799 they refer to the quote "lately only those I couldnt save" that snape says when dumbledore asks him how many people he has watched die, its a demostration that snape cares about saving as much people as he could, regardless of what dumbledore asks him to do or not.
On the flip side, the movies had Snape asking Dumbledore to save all of the Potters, rather than just Lily. In the book, he didn't even consider having Dumbledore save James and Harry until Dumbledore called him a "disgusting little man" for wanting only Lily protected
Yes! Harry's perspective was only what he could see, which obviously didn't include Snape's motivations, backstory, and other internal factors. The movie version is just as cannon to me for that reason. Alan Rickman brought the complexity that Harry was unable to see.
That's right about book being Harry's perspective. Even Lupin told Harry he was blinded by his hatred for Snape...and he was. How Harry could not see how Snape was looking out for him is a mystery. He even said in the first movie, "Snape was trying to save me?". I think Hermione was aware of what was going on, although she did set him on fire! She says Snape may be mean, but he's not evil. She and Harry, Ron, may have had doubts when Snape killed Dumbledore, but even after that there's signs. Snape didn't give him away when they were leaving the tower,. He wouldn't fight Harry and only deflected his attacks, when Bella cast the crucio spell, Snape said "NO", and the pain left Harry. Later when they were searching for the horcruxes, they heard that Snape as headmaster, was sending students to be "punished" at Hagrids. Snape didn't attack only deflected McGonagall's spells and took out 2 death eaters, AND swooped down and took their wands. Last but not least, Snape didn't tell Voldemort who the true owner of the elder wand was, sacrificing his life for Draco, Harry and the wizarding world. I think the trio put some of this together, that's why Harry approached Snape as he was dying
Snape may have had his bad moments, but we all do at some point. He did what was right in the end. RIP Alan Rickman you were awesome as snape 😇
Lol "bad moment" bullying a child when he's 30 🦧
I’m pretty sure joining the wizard KKK and murdering multiple people goes a little past “a bad moment” lol
@@serfurgiblurge I don’t think he murder people. Dumbledore asked him to and we was going to die anyways so that’s an exception
@@sanx6880 Yeah, he just sell a baby to Voldemort with his family. He knew what does that means when he told the prophecy.
@@serfurgiblurge Snape never killed anybody as a death eater. He was a SPY for Voldemort....you don't waste a good spy by have him get his hands dirty by killing people. Snape took a chance asking Voldemort to spare Lily. He couldn't very well spare Harry, could he? That's s why he went bro Dumbledore for help in saving all of them, and he could have if wormtail hadn't ratted them out! Snape promised he'd do anything to save them, and he did,even though Lily died. Like he told Dumbledore, he spied for him, he lied for him, and risked his life every day for him. He more than paid his debt to Lily and sacrificed his life for her son, Draco too, and the wizarding world.
Alan Rickman's acting was fantabulos. RIP SIR❤️🙏🏻
His acting is one which makes starting movies interesting and when series comes to end, we get to see his best
I have cried a lot for 'em. So touching. That hand just reach our 💓
I read the books way later after watching the movies. Snape in movies never really made any impression for me till the last one which involved Snape's memory. However, book Snape was relatable for me and for some reason, his actions made sense for whatever he had gone through in his adolescents. Of course, James' pride and pranks were no good reason to bully Harry. But Snape's bitterness is reasoned in the book for James nor Sirius ever apologied to Snape for being such scumbag to him. Snape himself didn't have a great childhood, and when he was in a place where he could feel belonged for his magical abilities, his peers bullied him simply "for existing". Yet, in GOF, when Harry told Snape that Padfoot was in danger, Snape, despite hating Sirius, went to help in ways that he could. He kept the Order a secret and was working against Voldemort.
Yes, Snape tipped off Voldemort regarding the prophecyabout Harry, but he lived a guilty life ever since and all he requested was to protect Lily's child. He made Harry miserable in school because Harry resembled James, the person who tormented him. But then there were a lot of scenario where Snape protected Harry, and that was only because Harry was the child of the only person he ever loved.
Book snape was complex, humans are complex. No one can be all good, no one can be all bad. Life and situation affects people and book Snape was the only character that portrayed this throughout the seven books.
With due respect, I still admire Alan Rickman's portrayal of the shady character. However, like I mentioned earlier, book Snape made a lasting impression for me. This has nothing to do with the actor, but it rather lies on the telling of the story. 🙂✌
Alright Imma elaborate on the “James saving Snape’s life” thing. What happened was Snape was getting very interested as to where Lupin was going every month, so Sirius seeing an opportunity, told him to go to the shrieking shack to get his answer. When James found out about this, he went to get Snape right before Lupin’s wolf form could kill him at a great risk of his own life might I add. So Snape arguing he only did it to save his own skin kinda falls apart when you see how Sirius would’ve been the one who got in trouble if anyone found out what happened (which I assume Dumbledore did cause he’s basically all-knowing) so there was no reason for James to go help Snape at all.
Yea. A sensible take on this. Both James and Sirius went out of their way to protect Remus in a way not mirrored by any students in my experience. Sirius' actions were dangerously stupid and could have resulted in Snape's death, but which troubled 15-year-old from an abusive home and trying with no guidance to forge his own path away from his evil family would be different?
Snape is living proof that a Slytherin can be brave. He’s the ultimate undercover agent and legit badass!
1 selfless action a year and the word always does not redeem a character.
"indeed, you are a much braver man than Igor Karkaroff. You know, sometimes I think we sort too soon." said Dumbledore, leaving Snape looking stricken.
I rolled laughing at the idea that Snape's reaction that he could've made a great Gryffindor.
@@TheJetsetter I interpreted his stricken look as the realization that he easily could have been in the same house as Lily and not the same house as the Death Eater crowd
The James Potter saved his life thing is overrated. Snape's life was in danger in the first place because of James and Sirius. If I remember they tricked Snape into going into the place where Lupin would turn into a werewolf while he transformed. It just turned out James had a little bit more of a conscience than Sirius so he intervened. Nothing to give James too much credit for, really just reflected very poorly on Sirius if anything
His life was in danger because of Sirius, not James. When James found out, he intervened.
Yes, no credit to James. He wasn't doing it out of the goodness of his heart at all. More so to prevent Sirius and Remus from getting into a LOT of trouble.
B.s. that was Sirius’s fault and JK said that James and Lupin didn’t talk to Sirius for a while because they were so mad at him. In the end James died a hero, working for the order and sacrificing himself for his beloved wife and child.
@@mazal312 How exactly did he sacrifice his life? He didn't save his family did he? In fact he simply got in Voldermort's way and paid the price, not very heroic Lol.
@@ticketyboo2456 He was ready to face Voldemort without a wand to give his wife and child a chance to escape, to survive. Thats the definition of heroic.
I think that Snape in the book was a much better representative of his true nature, while movies have an effect of elevating characters unintentionally
Just imagine the duels if Snape could actually show up to them. Snape would easily tip the scales
Though it wasn't much of a contest, Snape besting Lockhart stole my breath.
I love the Snape book by Lorrie Kim, she analyses every bit of book Snape. If I remember correctly, she states that Lupin resigned first thing in the morning and that Snape let the secret slip at breakfast later.
I recommend reading that book, it's really interesting!
The Owls were already coming to the Headmaster's office when Lupin resigned. It is also left out that Snape was going to get an ORDER of MERLIN Medal that the Golden Trio thwarted when Sirius escaped
What is the book called?
@@mariabagry the book is called Snape: A Definitive Reading and I recommend it too
@@eels3658 Thank you.
Yes, great insightful book!
The "always" in the end killed me :Dd
My favorite character in both the books and films. He is so enigmatic and difficult to pin down in the books, which makes him fascinating, but also much harder to like as we only see him from Harry's perspective, sneering and tormenting students. I agree that Alan Rickman's performance was outstanding, quite possibly the best in the films, and was definitely more likeable than book Snape. He was severe and disdainful, yet capable of empathy, which was not evident in the books. I love how, in spite of his words/actions in the films, you could see in Rickman's face/eyes there was more going on than what was evident on the surface. Still kept you guessing, just with a more likeable presentation of the character.
Yes, buy the entire Harry Potter book series and GET TO READING! Very good advice, now do it movie watchers!
Yessss, I just bought The Chamber of Secrets as a gift for my sister, and previously, I've offered her two versions of The Philosopher Stone! And she promised me she will read the entire series!
I have all of the books and I read them. I know these facts. But still enjoy watching his videos😅😅
Nope
Some people can't... but hey there will be more audience for this kind of video
Best book series ever. Read the series twice.
The occlemency scene in the books was brilliant-
There is no way anyone could’ve played snape better in the films
In all honesty, I think Snape is quite a complex character. In the movies, certain things were not explained well but in the books, of course, it's easier to understand these complex characters. When he dies for example, in the books he begs Harry to look at him because he wants to see Lily's eyes once again. In the movies, he said "you have your mother's eyes", which is something he never said as he never acknowledges to him that he actually met his mother. I'm not sure he really cared about anyone else except for himself/Lily, as he said to Dumbledore that "after all this time, he still loved her" (when they talk about Harry's future) but can we blame him? He grew up in an abusive environment, with his parents constantly arguing. The only person that never bullied him, was Lily. He didn't have friends in school, maybe because he was poor, because he was a mudblood, we only know that the first "friends" he has are all future Death Eaters and that's the point. The only love he had from another human being was from Lily :(
I love your harry potter channel. I have some requests i.e. pls make videos on the topic-Sorting Barty Crouch Jnr in Hogwarts House, The Story of Aurelius Dumbledore, and The relation between Leta Lestrange and Bellatrix Lestrange. Please it's my humble request to you. Please I have been requesting this all for so long now.
Everyone's saying they came by seeing Snape in the thumbnail, I came by the notification TH-cam gave me.
i am not saying that i follow harry potter theory hes one of the best when its about harry potter vids on youtube
I've always found Snape to be a complex, fascinating character. Over the course of reading the books, I found myself actually liking the asshole and genuinely admiring him by the time I'd finished them despite his shortcomings. When I saw the movies, I went completely starry-eyed very quickly and even became attached to the character as I got further into them. I blame how I got so attached to Snape through the movies on Alan Rickman, of course, but that's also part of Rickman himself shining through. The man's always been one of my favorite actors and has always lent a ..groundedness, I guess, to every role he's played.
RIP Alan Rickman
He's the bravest man ever known🦌
Book Snape was like hell in human form while Movie Snape was just a strict and biased teacher
man wanted to poison Neville's toad and see if Neville's antidote worked what a savage
Me, reading the books first, and loving Severus from the very Philsophers Stone
Right. I refused to watch any of the movies until the last book came out and I had read it.
You loved the adult bully? I understand loving him after goblet atleast but realllyyyy thoo
@@theparrot6516 I don't understand why I did tho. I used to wonder what was wrong with me.
I loved him from the start too, while reading the books. I'm new at this game. Read and watched all the books and movies this last October. After I saw Alan as Snape in the movies, I automatically pictured him in the rest of the books I hadn't read. Love Snape immensely....and adore Alan.... RIP
Snape was a fairy princess in the movies compared to the books, he literally bullied Harry in the books and did everything he could to piss Harry and the other Griffindors off. RIP Alan Rickman, you were amazing person
Snape will always be one of my favorite characters
2:57 James put Snape in danger and then saved him from that danger. That isn't saving his life. That is choosing not to murder Snape. BIG DIFFERENCE!
It would be so nice if you make videos for difference in every characters' from book to film❤️
I loved Snape at the end of the books He was such a well written character.
He was a perfect example of Power + Emotions
Brilliant video! I love everything about Severus Snape, no matter how bad he was with Harry and the rest...his complexity is so magnetic and there is some kind of magic and secret in all his existence! Can you please make a video comparing Snape and JK Rowling’s chemistry teacher she hated so much?
Magnetic, indeed; he's one of the few characters I would consider myself a fangirl of lol.
I have a theory about the book Snape versus the movie Snape. JK took almost 10 years to write the whole series. Maybe she felt she was portraying Snape a little too harshly for the readers to accept him more at the end. Once you have something published, you can't go back and change it. Perhaps she knew if Alan Rickman played Snape he would round out some of book Snape's rough edges.
Okay but the thing about remius happens in the movie too, Snape speeds the lesson plan up by 6 months according to hermonine to study were wolfs, to point out lupin to try to get the kids to tell their parents to fire lupis
Random question: if you make an unbreakable vow and break it (therefore killing you) yet you have an active horcrux, will it kill your body like Avada Kadavra does or something else entirely? Maybe breaks through the effects of a horcrux somehow... I don't really know but want to know
I prefer the movie version because of Alan’s softening of the character. I have read the books many times and some of the Snape book bits are very hard to read emotionally.
I thought that Dumbledore said #1 to Harry while he was recovering on his bed in the PS Movie
Yes, Prof. Dumbledore did say that Snape felt he owed James a debt for saving his life. It is not stated how James did it. Also, that was one of the reasons I started reading the books after seeing the first movie. Somethings were just not explained fully. The scene where Snape corners Quirrell is changed in the movie.
There's a deleted scene from Harry Potter and the Philosophers Stone movie during Harry's first potions class. I really wish they'd kept it in as it introduced Snape and highlighted the hatred between Harry and Snape from the off start.
Personally I think Snape relaying the message to the OOTP members was pretty obvious in the movies tbh even though it wasn’t clarified.
The rest I agree with.
One very important difference: Snape is much younger in the books. He‘s the same age as the marauders, that means, they are in their thirties. Of course, Lupin looks withered, due to his werewolf status, Sirius looks way more worn due to the years spent in Azkaban, and Peter was a rat for the same amount of time.
The books never clearly state the age (until Harry and Hermione visit James‘ and Lily‘s grave), but Snape is the one with the least troubled life, having spent all the time that wore out the Marauders at Hogwarts, well fed and safe. He may be „greasy“, but he should look at most as old as Lupin. Rickman, brilliant as his Snape was, was already in his 60s when he took the role. He nailed it, sure, but there’s no denial that he was way older than Snape should have been.
@@kilianhrkm I just checked: 55 by Philosopher‘s stone. 65 by Hallows 2. still, about 25 years older than Severus should have been.
Just because they didn’t directly say it in the movies doesn’t mean it wasn’t still the case. I’m pretty sure Snape still cost Lupin his job, and that he alerted the order about Sirius.
Man, start promoting your channel, coz harry potter is not an ongoing series and it is very long time it ended. So people don't search for it very often for the facts. But it is one thing that there are fans across world and will be willing to see this.
I loved Severus Snape as a character, but that's it. I enjoyed to read the way he was written, the depth and complexity he had. Even more I loved the actor for the way he managed to portray him. But I hated him as a person. To me, from all characters in Harry Potter, he was the most detestable personality wise because while at some point in life life he was bullied, he became a life-long bully himself of not just one child, but countless children who were already struggling with their own issues.
I had teachers like him. The type of teacher that makes a student not only hate him or the class, but actually installs permanent fear and self-doubt. The kind of teacher that makes student not want to go to school, to skip classes just because the very thought of being in front of that person terrified them. The sort of teacher that creates disorders in their own students who are growing up and just trying to find themselves in the world. From staring, making remarks in front of everyone, being biased to just down right not having any good qualities as a teacher, especially considering the importance his class had.
That can never be excused or redeemed to me. Like others may see him as a hero, some pitful victim etc, but to me those are just excuses that don't excuse his behavior. Yes, he was a well-written character and I'm aware of what Rowling intended him to be in the end, but unfortunately she failed because he was more bad then good.
I've had teachers like that, and I've taken my daughter out of public school and began homeschooling her to get her away from poisonous teachers like that. The biggest draw for me is more of a psychology thing, what makes them tick and why, but I'm not going to endanger myself or anyone else to slake my curiosity. I think that's why I love characters like that, they aren't real people I have to put up with on the regular lol.
People still keep forgettting that Snape was not only bullied, but a bully himself, which was one of the reasons maruders hated him so much. Even Lily mentioned it in one of the memories
And hanging out with people who wished to become Death Eaters wasn't too good for his reputation either.
Do not forget that he was a bully a professor. He bullied students, particularly Gryffindors in addition to showing high favoritism towards his own house. Let’s not also forget that scene in the third book when Snape threatens Neville by saying that his pet toad Trevor will die if Neville doesn’t brew the potion correctly. Perhaps this scene might’ve happened offscreen in the films, but considering the book clearly shows this scene, it demonstrates how cold Snape is in the books compared to his film counterpart.
Young Snape wasn't a bully. Lily said she doesn't understand why he's friends with the likes or Mulciber & Avery. Meaning, he wasn't like them.
@@ackerose she also said that he doesn't have a problem with insulting other half-blooods and muggleborns, and while his friends* were bullies he was always with them, didn't even tried to stop them. To me it makes him equally quilty
Yes, exactly.
I was always amused how quickly the people snap from hating Snape to admiring him as some sort of Hero who redeemed himself completely from all bad. I feel thats really, really wrong. He was a troubled man and most of his redeeming qualities stemmed from a one sided love interest / obsession. People too quick to forgive him. He was gladly accepting the death of Harry and James as long as Voldemort spares Lily. He was terrible towards the students and went out of his way to make Harry's life miserable just because he looked soo much like James. His love interest winds up more creepy than romantic in the end, in my oppinion. He is brave, yes he is and ultimately did the right thing, protecting Harry and fighting for Dumbledore. But in the end Snape was still a bitter and terrible person. His character is colorful but falling from hating him as one of Harry's tormentor then swapping over to the opposite end of the scale doesn't do his character any justice. He became a death eater willingly and it is obvious that Voldemort respected him over the rest of the lot. What kind of things you must do among the Death Eaters to rack up such a respect from The Dark Lord himself?
Voldemort respected him a lot because of Snape’s skills
@@gray6497 But he needed to proove he have those skills, right?
@@lebitelexie9350 his abilities were well known which is why Voldemort sought him out himself
@@gray6497 yes but I don’t believe that Voldemort never put those skills to good use.
That is so true. His behavior towards others doesn't excuse him at all. I felt bad for him of course, but he was still cruel.
Snape is my favorite character even in the books
Slipping Lupin's secret to the Slytherin's was more of a revenge on Dumbledore. The man constantly ignored him thorough the whole year and finally at the end of the year he again chose to side with his enemies. Snape knew that Dumbledore had something to do with Sirius' mysterious escapade. Immature response, but I sort of agree.
Not revenge. More like he was sick of Dumbledore letting the marauders get away with almost murder, and had enough of Lupin putting kids in danger. Snape while he wasn't nice and was verbally cruel, cared a lot about the the students phyical safety and Lupin was not just careless with students safety but had lied and kept important information from Dumbledore allowing a supposed mass murderer to enter the castle more than once.
@@marie.naturallysims2179 yes, that might be part of his reasons too. But I wouldn't put revenge past his character. Sometimes he was just plain bitchy :D
It’s possible that Snape let the secret slip with Dumbledore’s blessing, it would accomplish a couple of things: 1)Dumbledore would finally allow him to speak openly about Lupin being a werewolf after his near-death experience when they were kids, being silenced by Dumbledore all those years ago probably added to his trauma. 2) It would add to his cover story as a spy later on if people think he openly defied Dumbledore by outing Lupin. 3)It would steer attention away from how Lupin failed Dumbledore and endangered everyone. We’re told that Lupin resigned first thing in the morning which makes it sound like he resigned before Snape told his students that same morning. I think Lupin knew he had messed up and didn’t want to stick around.
@xXTenma'sShadowXx I don’t know, I still think it’s possible that Lupin, Snape and Dumbledore all realized that it was too dangerous to keep it a secret anymore, not even brewing the Wolfsbane potion every month was enough to keep everyone safe. Lupin says it would have come out anyway and admitted he had been sneaking off with his friends and endangered people even though Dumbledore trusted and protected him.
But yes, Snape could have just been immature and vindictive towards both Dumbledore and Lupin (and I say that loving him too). We see how both Harry and Snape are haunted by their past when the Dementors are around and it becomes even clearer how Snape hasn’t moved on from how he was treated as a kid, or from Lily’s death, the thing that drove him suicidal and almost mad. He’s convinced Sirius is responsible not only for the nearly fatal prank on him but for Lily’s death and he’s willing to hand both him and Lupin over to the Dementors without listening to them.
I came by seeing snape in thumbnail
Only thing that really bothered me was the death of Snape. It was badass in the book.. getting locked in a translucent sphere with Nagini. Instead of Voldemort slicing his throat and letting nagini finish him off, big let down
I know, right.
Not to mention, it would've been nice to have the location be the shrieking shack like in the book, I can see as to why it would've felt strange in the movie, but they could've done it nontheless
So you don't think Snape's death was brutal enough? I think it would be too bloody for kids to see if it happened the way it did in the book. They didn't even show that much blood in the movie either. If he bled out that quick, there would have been blood everywhere.... Which I for one, couldn't take. It was bad enough seeing him die.
Who has the best story in Harry Potter in your opinion guys? Mine is probably Dumbledore, his memories, explaining many things which lead up t the franchise, how he became the most powerful wizard to have ever lived and most importantly.... how he grew his beard!
I love both the books and movies.
Alan Rickman's performance will always remain an absolute classic. His presence, height, demeanor, and, of course, that inimitable voice.
That made the reveal of his true undercover work plausible.
In the books, it required more suspension of disbelief. Not impossible, but Rickman made it much easier.
Book Snape is proof that "good" doesnt necessarily equal "nice" and vice versa.
I just wanted to add a little note to the comment that Snape made Lupin lose his job. Snape telling everyone that Lupin is a werewolf was unacceptable, however Lupin was destined to only teach for one year. If I remember correcty, Tom Riddle cursed the position after he wasn't given the post of DADA professor himself. Everyone that was appointed that post afterwards would only be able to teach for one schoolyear. Snape made Lupin lose his job, but he would've lost it either way.
Maybe Curse triggered that Snape would tell about Lupins condisions. He might not told it couse he was still loyal to Dumbledore even he Hated Luping. But Curse triggered that petty Vengeance to be acted out.. Thats my Theory about it.
He would have lost it anyway, bjt Snape still snitched because he was petty.
All of the characters were complex. Harry had flaws, Ron, Hermione, Dumbledore, Snape, Harry's dad James, Sirius, Peter, Remus, even Petunia and Dudley showed a sliver of heart. The only one who didn't have anything negative attached was Harry's mom. Everyone who ever talked about her loved her and even Snape at his worst still did everything in her memory.
I feel like the 2nd, 3rd, and 5th points were all implied pretty heavily in the movies as well. All you have to do is ask yourself "Why was this bit of dialogue said?" But also, Snape wasn't directly responsible for Lupin losing his job. The position was cursed. Lupin wouldn't have kept his job regardless. Snape outing him was a result of the curse. And a relatively minor one at that. He probably had the best outcome of all of the holders of the position.
Fact 3: Lupin would've lost his job anyway, since the Defense Against the Dark Arts post was cursed. If Snape didn't tell everyone about his secret he could've ended up like Quirrell or Lockhart.
I don’t know who that drawing is of. Sleep in the books is literally Alan Rickman. Snape in the movies is Alan Rickman. Snape was just meant to be Alan Rickman.
Book Snape isn't the type to say 'Control your emotions. Discipline your mind'.
The films did him better.
I will grant you that Snape alerted the Order of the Phoenix when Harry and his friends went to the Department of Mysteries, but I have a problem with the timeline.
According to the book, Harry got the vision of Voldemort torturing Sirius during his History of Magic exam, which started at 2:00pm. The test was almost over when Harry woke up, which I'm going to assume was about 4:00pm. Harry and the others are then captured in Umbridge's office, Harry and Hermione go into the Forbidden Forest with Umbridge, and the thestrals appear. Now, I don't know how long each of these take, but while they're flying, twilight fell and they go through the gathering darkness. Apparently, sundown in the U.K. in the summer is about 9:00-9:30pm. So, five hours have passed since Harry received the vision. The thestrals are clearly faster than the train, which takes about seven to eight hours to get to Hogwarts. I'm going to say that the thestrals took about four hours to get to London, so we're up to 1:00am. Then, Harry and his friends have to get through the many confusing doors of the Department of Mysteries, which I'm going to say took about an hour. This means they meet the Death Eaters around 2:00am. If the battle with the Death Eaters took about an hour, then the Order finally arrives at about 3:00am. If this part of the battle takes another hour, then Sirius dies at about 4:00am, which is also roughly when Voldemort and Dumbledore arrive for their duel. Another half-an-hour passes and Voldemort tries to possess Harry. Fudge comes in and sees Voldemort. Dumbledore sends Harry back to Hogwarts right around sunrise, which in the summer, is apparently 4:45am.
So, what's my problem? I've just proven that Harry could've done all this in one night. Well, the thing is, why did it take Snape so long to alert the Order? Dumbledore claims that Snape learned that Sirius was fine right away. If Umbridge captured Harry around 5:00pm, Snape had four hours before Harry and the others leave. Yet, he doesn't tell the Order that Harry has left for hours. Look, you can't have it both ways. Either Snape took his sweet time before he told the Order, in which case, he put Harry in more danger, or Snape told the Order right away and they took their time, putting Harry in danger. If Snape and the Order were doing their jobs properly, the Order of the Phoenix would've known that Harry was heading for the Ministry at about 10:00pm. Tonks or Kingsley or someone could then wait for Harry outside the Ministry entrance and explain the situation to him.
And the plus side: Sirius wouldn't be killed by Bellatrix.
They probably expected Snape to tell Harry Sirius was fine. Snape probably didn't expect Harry & co to succeed in getting to the ministry.
@@JariDawnchild Good point. How was Snape supposed to know that Harry and the others would find thestrals?
I just wonder why there was a five hour delay between Harry leaving Hogwarts and the Order arriving at the Ministry.
From what Dumbledore said, Snape contacted Sirius right away, mosf likely used the patronus charm to send a message to make sure he was fine. We don't know how long this took for the message to resch Sirius nor do we know how long it took Sirius to contact Snape, let him know he's fine.
After this Dumnledore said Snape realised Harry must have gone to the department of mysteries when Harry hadn't returned from the forest. We don't know how long Snape waited until coming to this conclusion. We also dont know how long it took Snape and the Order to convince Sirius to say behind at Grimmauld place, plus the fact that they wouldn't be able to apparate or rush into the department of mysteries with a wanted "mass murderer" with them in case they bumped into the wrong people.
And we don't know whether or not the Order went right away or decided to stay and wait for Snape to come back from searching the forbidden forest for Harry and co, especially considering the fact that Sirius would have stubbornly decided he was going to go with the Order to rescue Harry.
@@marie.naturallysims2179 All good points. I was going purely off of the time, since I just couldn't work out what Snape might have been doing for those five hours. He may very well have needed all that time to confirm that Harry and his friends had indeed headed for the Ministry. And Sirius wouldn't have made things easier for them.
So, maybe Snape is a better person than I gave him credit for. I still don't like or trust him, but maybe he did all he could to help Harry in the Department of Mysteries battle.
I fricken love Snape he’s so controversial
I've read the books several times and pick up stuff with each reading. Snape was actually my favorite character from both the movies AND books. His death was the only one that had me in tears as well as the chapter "the princes tale." For anyone wanting a more in-depth look at Snape's probable motives, I would highly suggest reading Snape: A Definitive Reading by Lorrie Kim. It briefly goes over Snape in each book, the good, the bad and the ugly. Below is the book description from Amazon.
The Harry Potter series may be named after the Boy Who Lived, but if you want to know the story, keep your eyes fixed on Severus Snape. This hook-nosed, greasy-haired, grumpy character is one of J.K. Rowling’s enduring gifts to English literature. He’s the archetypal ill-tempered teacher: acerbic, yet horribly, deliciously funny. When he’s in a scene, you can’t take your eyes off him. Snape is always the story. - From the Introduction
In this examination of J.K. Rowling's most enigmatic character, Lorrie Kim shows us how to sort through the illusions and lies to the man who dared to spy on Voldemort and without whom, Harry's story would have turned out very differently. In his final moments, he asks Harry (and the reader) to "Look at me." This book does just that.
" You were seen by no more then 8 muggles had you been in my house and your fate rested with me both of you would be one the train home tonight!!!!!"👦⚡🧹🦉🌕🚂🏰🧙♂️📖
I always thought that Harry is dumb. Like what did he expect from Snape? To tell in front of Umbrigde that yeah Harry I understand, Sirius is in danger?
The end quote should have been , " turn to page 394. "
Professor Snape reminded me of many male teachers I knew growing up as a English school kid, They wouldn`t allow such teachers in this era but I admired such teachers.
I sort of became a fan of Snape after reading book 6 (the best in the series). After reading book 7, he became my favorite character.
Book Snape was what life molded him into. He knew nothing but pain and misery all his life, the one little light he had in Lily, he fucked it up because he was so damaged and traumatized. His childhood was worse than Harry's and he too found a home for the first time in Hogwarts and finally felt like he belonged in Slytherin. Then he got bullied and it broke him, he got humiliated in the one place he felt safe and like home, and because he did not learn how to treat people and be with others, he lost his only shine of hope in Lily in the aftermath.
Snape is the most tragic character imo and then its Dumbledore. That is why they were the perfect friends for each other. They both experienced immense pain and guilt all their lives.
And just found purpose in defeating Voldemort, that was the thing that kept them going.
5:16 Voldemort’s jinx on the DADA position is also indirectly responsible.
I mean... he saved his life, but got his life in danger in the first place 😂. I would be mad as well. You clearly don’t value someone else if it has to come to that...
I wouldn't be mad tbh. Saving them cancels it out
Well, no, it was Sirius who thought it was a good joke. James realized it was too dangerous and intervened. Sirius is another "gray" character; he definitely had flaws.
Wait are we talking about James saving Snape or Snape protecting Harry?
If we're speaking of James saving Snape, than I do not agree. It was Sirius who put Snape's life in danger, not James. When James realized what was about to happen he rushed and rescued Snape.
@@glowormrdr6183 I do agree, though I wouldn't call Sirius a "grey" character. Every character has their own flaws, and so did Sirius. Putting Severus in danger was a very very bad decision, even though Snape was sticking his nose everywhere, trying to get them expelled. I think that Sirius was wrong to be a bully, but brave and strong enough to grow out of it. Even though Snape knew Sirius was innocent, he was still willing to hand him to the dementors.
Observation: By forcing Lupin to resign, he may very well have saved him from a worse fate, as the curse over the DATA role may have forced him out anyway. Not that Snape had this in mind or anything, but still. Kind of like a silver lining thing
I'm pretty sure James wasn't trying to keep himself and Sirius out of trouble. He was probably also trying to protect Remus from doing something he'd regret, even if it had been a mistake and he wasn't in control. Remus would have killed himself if he bit or killed somebody in his werewolf form.
Exactly!! I don't think James could've just let it happen
But he certainly didn't do it for Snape, which is Snape's main point. James either A) got cold feet, B) was saving his own ass, C) was saving Sirius, D) was saving Remus.
In none of these cases, did James stop it cuz the prank itself was morally wrong to Snape, the victim.
@@l.n.3372
Exactly.
The ONLY reason James “saved” him was because if Severus had died then Sirius would be sent to Azkaban, Remus would’ve been executed and James would’ve been expelled. He couldn’t care less if Severus died or not, he only did that to save him and his friends.
@@cinnagrits
Yep 100%.
Snape himself says as much to Harry in book 3, chapter "Snape's grudge." Harry had the mistaken impression that James was acting noble or heroic. But in reality, James was saving his own skin and that of his friends, without really caring about Snape himself at all.
@@l.n.3372
Glad that someone understands! James “saving” Sev is extremely overrated and is just a dumb excuse James stans use to claim that he’s noble even though he did it only to save his and his friends’ butts.
💙I love snape I like the movie snape better but I love all Alan Rickman's movies 💙
I think on the issue of bullying one should also not leave out that the books give some additional information. First of all Sririus and Remud are allowed to put it in perspective. According to them Snape and the Syltherin gave as good as they got and knew quite a few curses. One should not forget the curse James uses in the memory seems to have been invented by Snape (based on the Half Blood Prince book, where it is writen in the margins and those are usually spells Snape invented).
But more importantly the books have a memory between Lily and Snape. In this Snape tries to get Lily to forgive him for calling her a Mudblood. Lily takes Snape to task. She points out that not only does he call literally every other muggleborn Mudblood to their face (Snape's only defence is that he would not do it to her ...), but also that she is aware that Snape and his friends go around school and use Dark Magic on defenceless students (it is implied muggleborns). Something Snape calls: "Just haveing a laugh."
So Snape is not just a poor victim here. He is also a bully who uses magic that is classified as dangerous with a group on victims as it seems for rascist motives.
Also no defender of Snape ever included an explenation of why he joined the Death Eaters. As in a rascist terror organisation whose main goal is a genocide on muggleborns (while he claims to love a muggleborn ...). That is like joining the KKK after the civil war, participateing in the murder spree (whether active or on the logisitcal side is immaterial), but still claiming you are not rascist because you are obsessed with one afro american girl.
James: I prevented a murder today.
Lily: How?
James: Self control.
I haven’t read the books yet and I knew about Snape telling Voldemort about the prophecy, and I knew James saved Snape, but not for the reason listed here. The one I know was Snape being curious about why Lupin wasn’t around those days after a full moon and James saved Snape from the Whomping Willow
Severus Snape is the most tragic and most misunderstood character in modern literature
I remember Snape punishing Harry for something, I think in book 6. He had Harry sorting year books or something, and most of them that Harry had to sort, had James in them. Harry thought Snape was doing this in an attempt to be cruel, but he was actually trying to do something somewhat nice for Harry, while also punishing him for whatever he did wrong. I don’t believe this was in the movie at all.
I am a book reader and Snape will ALWAYS be my favorite character. We do need a series when he and the Marauders were in school- at you Netflix
I watch this vid and see on old comment of mine i may have come full circle watching harry potter theory vids lol
Snape Is My Favorite Character In Harry Potter!
As Soon As I Saw This I Clicked It. This Video Was Just 13 Minutes Ago.
Also, I Have A Question. What Happened To Hogwarts After The Battle?
We don't have too much information about it but it seems that Hogwarts was repaired after the battle and eventually life resumed within the school. We know that Hermione and other students returned to finish their education properly while others like Ron and Harry moved on and took up Kingsley's offer to become aurors without the previously necessary school qualifications (Aurors really took a beating by then and Kingsley decided that those who fought at the Battle against Voldemort are all worthy to join and learn on the fly). McGonagall became the headmistress and by 2017 she is still in her position along with Hagrid. Around this time Neville Longbottom replaces the Herbology teacher and children of former students begin their education at the school. I think this is mostly all that we know. Anyone feel free to correct me or add if I am wrong.
What no one is taking about is the fact that Snape and aunt Petunia knows each other.....
love your videos man. Can you make a video on how paintings of the Headmasters are made and how they have all the memories of their alive self?
I have only watched the movies at this time but I love the Snape from the movies very much. He is more than just a favorit character to me... My heart was broken two times: when Snape died and when I found out that Alan had died. I hope he rests in peace 😔❤️