Yes true. I have a litespeed that I have only flown once but I can tell it has a lot of potential. I normally fly the sting so I have the best of both worlds(or the worst depending on how you look at it I guess).
I flew a fun down at Flaxman, the wind was up around 25knots i struggled just to stay in front of the ridge while all the guys flying stings where out over the water just cruising.
so the main mistake that the F2 flyer is making is he is 'Pulling Away' on the control bars? I thought the difference in the make of the glider too makes the difference in performance as well. Thx. for the video though.
That is not a good comparison at all. Your son is flying a much better line. I can demonstrate the exact same thing on a single glider. Flying below the cliff having to do very little crabbing, while having to point into the wind a lot more and making a lot less progress above it.
Exactly, the F2 (single surface) is forced to point into the wind and crab more than the dual surface. If it was blowing 25 knots, the F2 would be just pointing into the wind and going no where. The Sting (dual surface) would be able to crab along at 25 knots no problem.
@@hgpilott I think you missed my point. Your son, the higher performance glider, is flying a better line, below the cliff top. If the "beginner" glider was flying lower it would not have to crab so much and instead make better progress along the cliff. Instead it is stuck right in the venturi with the fastest wind. If you want a performance comparison then both gliders should fly the same line.
@@sergeig685 I think you may have not watched the whole video. It was actually me flying the Sting (I am the son) and I only flew low at one point to overtake. I then climbed higher than the single surface, was about a kilometre further down the ridge, and was moving much faster. The clip shown of me flying the Sting over the cliff was about 30 seconds before the clip of the F2 and I was at least as high. It may look lower because of the POV.
@@hgpilott Entendi.. tem imagens mostrando as duas asas sobrevoando a parte de cima. Existe um diferença considerável sim.. Porém a parte do vídeo que mostra a asa de superfície dupla passando por baixo trás erro na interpretação. Contudo.. na mesma altura existe uma diferença considerável de performance.
I loved my sting, flew it at Fairhaven quite a bit..thanks for the memories
Thanks for this video. Takes me me back. I flew for 10 years.
If you have a topless glider then every now and then you'll wish you had a floater. And vice versa.
Yes true. I have a litespeed that I have only flown once but I can tell it has a lot of potential. I normally fly the sting so I have the best of both worlds(or the worst depending on how you look at it I guess).
I flew a fun down at Flaxman, the wind was up around 25knots i struggled just to stay in front of the ridge while all the guys flying stings where out over the water just cruising.
Yeah 25knts is pushing it in a fun. We have flown the F2 at 13th beach when it got to 30knts. Its not so "fun" then haha.
so the main mistake that the F2 flyer is making is he is 'Pulling Away' on the control bars?
I thought the difference in the make of the glider too makes the difference in performance as well.
Thx. for the video though.
The difference here is mostly from the glider, the sting has better glide and is faster.
How much does your son weigh?
That is not a good comparison at all. Your son is flying a much better line. I can demonstrate the exact same thing on a single glider. Flying below the cliff having to do very little crabbing, while having to point into the wind a lot more and making a lot less progress above it.
Exactly, the F2 (single surface) is forced to point into the wind and crab more than the dual surface. If it was blowing 25 knots, the F2 would be just pointing into the wind and going no where. The Sting (dual surface) would be able to crab along at 25 knots no problem.
@@hgpilott I think you missed my point. Your son, the higher performance glider, is flying a better line, below the cliff top. If the "beginner" glider was flying lower it would not have to crab so much and instead make better progress along the cliff. Instead it is stuck right in the venturi with the fastest wind. If you want a performance comparison then both gliders should fly the same line.
@@sergeig685 I think you may have not watched the whole video. It was actually me flying the Sting (I am the son) and I only flew low at one point to overtake. I then climbed higher than the single surface, was about a kilometre further down the ridge, and was moving much faster. The clip shown of me flying the Sting over the cliff was about 30 seconds before the clip of the F2 and I was at least as high. It may look lower because of the POV.
@@hgpilott Entendi.. tem imagens mostrando as duas asas sobrevoando a parte de cima.
Existe um diferença considerável sim.. Porém a parte do vídeo que mostra a asa de superfície dupla passando por baixo trás erro na interpretação.
Contudo.. na mesma altura existe uma diferença considerável de performance.