Every time theres a dark skin mad at a light skin its colorism.......maybe just maybe ppl like her music more. Why dont yall think of that. Nasty red is bigger than that Cleo girl is it colorism too??? Yall dont think at all. But its easier to dumb down and blame it on the skin tone. Keeping black ppl as victims as always. Shes just not popping. It sucks but it is what it is.
What makes it worse is Ice STOLE Cleo’s style and was asking Cleo to be around her everywhere. Now shes trying to act like Cleo is a fan and a bum. Crazy work.
@@Niona_ShashaiIf you look at Ice's older posts she really wore basic clothes and Jays. Ice was rocking that good fashion nova bbl aesthetic of clothes. Now she has on the mini skirts, the flashy belts, chunky shoes, and has a lot of the alternative y2k style that Cleo has been rocking for way longer. It makes sense.
Yeah maybe the clothing style, but if we being tit for tat, Cleo started to use Drill beats on her music AFTER becoming friends with Ice (her oldest Drill song is 2 years old)... Ice has been making drill for almost 5 years, so lets be fair, friends exchange things, lets not be petty when they BOTH took things from eachother.
In all seriousness Cleo knew Ice was fake but didn’t know to the extent. She went last minute on the tour thinking it would be a good opportunity, and Ice tried to torture her the whole time. Evil.
Ice Spice was a high school bully and never changed her ways. I am disgusted that she basically tortured Cleo for speaking up for herself and even mistreating the hairstylist who Cleo befriended. I do think Cleo should've gotten some type of contract involved, and she should've kept quiet regarding baby Storm. However, it doesn't negate that Ice Spice is badmind and wrong.
“Ungrateful” implies she did something for them and they didn’t return the favor or didn’t appreciate it . Idk much about her mom but Nicki, who was already established, being “ungrateful” for a feature, despite a “Nicki Feature” being a status symbol for many artists, is just pure delusion. And with the Cleo situation, it just confirms her head getting way too big that she probably believes that they didn’t deserve her breath. Knowing how people are already getting fed up with her music due to the very weird pattern in them and the events of these situations, her career is going to be even more short-lived than she was bargaining for and it was all because of her. I hate the word humble as it is a very misconstrued word but the lack of class, respect, and self-awareness she has for those people listed is her downfall.
@@Chickenleg-hl4le you’re spot on with what you said! Her association to Nicki made her bigger, how tf can Nicki be ungrateful?! And Ice literally took Cleo’s whole STYLE. Where’s her gratitude for Cleo?! She never promoted Cleo’s music and invited her on tour last minute. Ice ain’t shit.
I also disagree with the fact that people were calling out Cleo for exposing the texts and story. Abuse THRIVES in silence. People should always speak up on abuse
That's what had me confused too bc they did the same with baby storme. "Oh I couldn't have a friend like that..." "What typa friend is she really" "if she was my friend" "I can't believe as her friend she exposed their convo...its not that bad except her sharing the messages that shoulda stayed secret" -yet are y'all not really taking in wtf is being put out in front of you? I mean ofc obvs they didn't care to, but still. A person can only be battered in so much and you shouldn't feel the need to negate them or throw anything out at them negatively when they do come out with it. Even if it is your favorite person, or a person you just don't feel like believing is like that. In both exposed messages shit was being said from ice yet overtly dense ppl seemed to only care how bad and downright vile "exposing it like that" was ..like what? 😪😒😑
this plus like, as normal people the equivalent would be telling everyone who asked why you fell out why you fell out instead of some vague answer or none at all. To me this is something people should 100% if abused or mistreated. We don't wanna support some1 horrible
@@mrsx7944 they were. They were calling her and baby storme out for being odd and fake friends themselves that they would never want to have. all bc they leaked "ultra top secret never to be shared" text messages...from an odd fake friend. If you didn't see that part, that's ok. But don't give unaware input either.
This happens a lot: someone that you think is your friend invites you somewhere ..just for you to be mistreated the entire time. (The point is to tear you down so they can feel better about themselves) Then when you confront that “friend” about it, they make you feel guilty about speaking up for yourself. I’ve experienced this and I’ve seen other women get treated like this at work, school, parties, etc. When you speak up against a narcissistic person, they loose that sense of power and superiority over you ..that pisses them off.
@@GrowingAndGlowing123 Feeling like and being is different. I'm going to give yall the actual definition lol the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something. Ice Spice did not torture Cleo no matter the FEELINGS yall feel lol
Which is exacly the problem people thought she was pretty so we gassed her up way too much. Knowing she had 0 talent. And now she got 100 % ego@YogaWDía
Cleo is the girl that said “Save Me a Baby father” in 2019, and many other viral videos, she had a really significant following for years now. I’ve been a follower of her since 2019. Since she lived in New York.
@@CherylAgyeman as a new yorkian, i very much agree i find myself saying bro, like, word, dayroom the list goes on like too many times a day i just did it again with like lmaoooo 😭
Ice spice definitely befriended her to steal her sauce whether it was her clout, her fashion, her hints of personality. Those types of people are the real vacuums, the real soulless people that don't have a personality so they take other people's. A real energy vampire.
She talks about herself with every diss to someone else ‘Got these b!tches biting all my flows’ while doing her best Nicki Minaj impression ‘Got your head gassed’ her big head is super inflated from going viral ‘Ungrateful and delusional’ girl! Stop talking about yourself that way 💀
I knew about Cleo for a longgg time, since she always been popular in my city. Cleo is stunning and ice spice stylist stating that she kept referring to Cleo as “black ahh” pissed me off. Like darkskin women get below the bare minimum and it’s sickening! She needs to be humbled I’m over “icespice”
it wasn't that *gradual* Two, if someone fluffy and thick like ice spice was just that- then in a matter of two weeks was borderline, unnaturally slimmed down...yea no. You could see the dramatics from the MV she did with central cee. If she generally lost weight that gradually and naturally she wouldn't had that look to her. And, actual fat would still be present in certain areas they would usually be if it *WAS* that gradual and natural. They wouldn't have that unhealthy, all too fast, and wrong deflated fat look. It's basically a composition, proportion thing and both of them weren't adding up. @OGseoulite
She’s definitely not more than a quarter black. Her dad is very obviously a half black half Spanish man. He looks so similar to my brother who is half black half Puerto Rican.
I really wanna feel bad for Cleo but I really can’t… she saw what baby storme said and what she went through and still proceeded to think she was the exception to colorism… ice spice has been weird and has been showing that she don’t like black women
Exactly!!! She wasn’t even in a contract to stay. She took disrespect after disrespect just because she wanted fame. Now she’s spilling because she basically didn’t get ish after taking all that crap from ice.
@@solaris5922ima say that it’s more of biting the bullet for her benefit. We all have to start small when building a career. Sometimes you gotta be the store runner before you go Big Dawg 💅🏾
She doesn't understand that to be a rude girl in the industry. You need to be talented, Mariah carey? Nicki ? Ariana? These women are irreplaceable thats why they can get away with the mean girl persona
I hated the way she treated Cleo & btw I believe almost all she said. I just wish she had a lil contract or something done up. What i hated more than anything was IS response, calling her careless bum was awful! But I knew Nicki didn’t unfollow for nothing, Nicki is a business woman & she definitely put a bad taste in her mouth. She really is a mean girl, God bless Cleo
I agree. if cleo had gone into this as an artist nkt a friend she would have asked for proper accommodation and pay. even proper promotion. ice was never her friend
Right ! Omg when I heard ice spice call out Cleo for eating a lot of food In a restaurant.. I was like duhh... You starved her n your makeup & hair stylist on the tour 😑😑
Ice Spice is mad weird & self-absorbed. Talking about we got another bus/ extra bunks so that’s why she ended up inviting her. So only thing you thought your FRIEND needed on tour was a damn bunk?! Gave her a day so she couldn’t even prepare properly. Never even promoted her or put her on the bill. Ice gave her crumbs & mad at Cleo for trying to make cake of the situation & calling her out on her bullshit. Ice is immature AF.
I’m tired of talentless people becoming rappers and put on a pedestal because they have a certain body type. I blame Cardi B for this epidemic. I like Cardi B but now I’m starting to think she should have never been let in the door if it would lead to this.
I never cared for Cardi AT ALL!! She just never sat well with me! Like in the beginning she had a likeable personality but, just never cared for her!! And she definitely lowered the standard in female hip-hop!!
Ice Bigheaded Spice is Cardi B’s son, she saw her getting big and thought, I can do that. And she’s even less of an entertainer than Cardi B is, at least Cardi B has personality and can perform.
I think cardi is a pretty good dancer, well, “dancer”, yk that’s literally how she started her career, striping, to each their own, but yea I wish she wrote her own stuff, they sell her good, I love her work but it’s not really her. But compared to ice spice it’s so much different, and she doesn’t openly get herself in drama unless someone starts it.
Ice Spice def a colorist and she got mad that Cleo was getting shine at that basketball game.. it wouldn’t surprise me that Nicki wanted to humble Ice by making her sign to Heavy on it cuz it’s tru what Cleo said she got lucky and didn’t have to grind so if she already had a stuck up attitude then I can only imagine how she is now
@@vegannn7178it was clownish bc she doesn't really have anything to her. But for a moment it was "smart" (semi) bc she had the hype behind her. Hopefully tho Nicki does sign Cleo and many more talented artists like her.
Colorism is really relevant Cleo was a pawn and ice ds friend also ice need to keep her issues with other girls at home cause not everyone is jealous of you You can see the way how she talked about Cleo after the whole situation calling her a vacuum…
I remember seeing the pictures from when the tour was ongoing. I thought to myself “yea something isn’t right” cuz I just knew it was just to make up for the thing with baby storme. Honestly I would’ve been more surprised if nothing crazy like Cleo getting mistreated didn’t happen. I’ve always liked Cleo and I met her once and she was so sweet. Sorry that that happened to her.
This is so random! But that wouldn’t do her any good!! SZA is RNB not hip-hop and TDE wouldn’t touch that with a 100-ft pole! They only sign ACTUAL TALENT!!
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5ti this is not random because Ice spice was on SZAs stage multiple times and SZA being SZA was just being friendly as always so ice spice might try to use her next since to put out good music she needs to collaborate with good artists because Ice spice sucks a$$
@@labeezly6080successful enough, yet still underrated. It's what you would think to call a niche fanbase; their own solid small fanbases. They don't really get GP checks and when they do it doesn't really have to much of an affect on their careers. The only way it does is if ppl are still trying to troll and shit on them still no matter the situation but esp with these types.
@@labeezly6080instead of hyping women like ice spice who keep showing yall all the time that they don't rock with yall but some how they are the first to copy and imitate yall in anything yall do you should be supporting women who look like yall like Flo, Cleo, Doechi, glorilla💀
@@SONIA-q5i who is hyping ice spice?? Are you on meth? I clearly stated that Flo Milli, Cleo and doechii have loyal fan bases and are VERY successful. Not in spite of anyone. From pure talent.
Ice spice’s former stylist confirmed that what Cleo said was true he was on the tour too and she made racial remarks about Cleo too .. I am done with Ice spice .. she’s blocked on every social media and I ll never support her again
My 2¢… First off, Ice and Cleo were never genuine friends. Maybe in the beginning Ice’s intentions were good but after gaining some traction I think she realized how beneficial it would be for her image to be “besties” with a pretty, LIT, Nigerian girl like Cleo. Ice definitely USED Cleo for CLOUT. Point blank. If you from New York you definitely seen CLEO BEFORE AN ICE SPICE. Now… ICE and her TEAM invited CLEO on tour to save face after the situation with STORMI exposing how she really feels about Cleo. They invited her last minute so that she WOULDN’T come or so that even if she DID come she wouldn’t be prepared and on her A Game! (No special outfits, no rehearsing, no promo). Hence why ICE told her “everything would be covered don’t worry, you’ll be with me”. They didn’t WANT Cleo to get a contract drawn up with her management or get a budget established. Once Cleo decided to come, I feel like Ice and her team were like ok now people can see we’re still cool, but like I said before Ice never was her GENUINE FRIEND. That’s why she ALLOWED her security to treat Cleo that way. LIKE CLEO SAIDDDD- Ice wasn’t expecting her to check that shit so quick! Had Cleo NOT addressed it, Ice would’ve been cool with her on camera but would’ve continued with the passive aggressive behavior. Cleo being so vocal definitely pissed Ice off and set the precedent for how she would treat her for the rest of the tour. Ice NEVER wanted to share her stage with Cleo!! She wanted to USE Cleo like the token black bestie. She never wanted people to see how talented her bestie was! She did all of this to SAVE FACE. Even before the Stormi shit, Ice ONLY tweeted Cleo’s lyrics when she was beefing with someone (I cant remember rn who that was whether it was Cardio, Latto but yea). She was just never a true friend and she’s clearly not even a DECENT human being. How tf you know yall in the middle of nowhere and didn’t invite one of the opening acts (your supposed friend) to dinner?! That’s disgusting.
@@GrowingAndGlowing123that’s literally what he said and said it with chest too. His response made me mad, he sounds so…cold. Calculated. If those are the people Ice Bigheaded Spice has around her, then no wonder she’s so full of herself. Talking about hits when his artist looks lost when asked to freestyle and twerks instead. He’s just milking his cash cow.
@@alkahinat4558 Facts, Ice is mediocre af. Her team is the only reason she’s as popular as she is. They put her in the right positions. She really skipped the “grind stage” like Cleo said. They got her on songs with Nicki Minaj! Lied to Nicki saying Ice would sign to her label. Just for her team to turn around and tell Ice that Nicki is asking for too much. And of course her bird brain ass fell for it. She thinks if she signs to any other label they not gonna ask for the same shit?! If not more? Why wouldn’t you want to sign to the most successful female rapper? It don’t matter how anyone feels about Nicki’s music she is the ONLY female rapper that was SMART enough to navigate the music industry. Ice calling Nicki ungrateful as if Princess Diana didn’t become her biggest song AFTER Nicki got on the remix, like her numbers didn’t go UP after doing those songs with Nicki. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Nicki’s fans are the majority of female rap listeners. Ice and many other female rappers would have a LOT to gain if they sign with Nicki. But they always let people behind the scenes get in their head and convince them otherwise. Idk what it is but to some degree I feel like it boils down to them just not being confident enough in their own abilities.
The attack on titan reference went so hard & made a nerd like me feel so welcome here 😂😂😂😂 but also I agree with the sentiment. The type of people that are becoming famous are dangerous.
I peeped ice spice from DAY1 I never got any REAL energy from her BUT on the flip side i definitely believe in my guts Cleo saw signs and thought she would benefit from standing side by side with her. I really thought this especially after those text messages got leaked! There’s no way what spice said should had made u gave her a “second chance” unless u knew it was some form of benefit to it. She was so proud to be the token dark skin friend to the point she was ready to fight Stormy n seemingly happy to be the only friend standing only for it to be a matter of time she got fed up faking the funk. But with all that ICE SPICE WAS DEAD wrong but Cleo obviously turned blind eye to the bs from the jump. I don’t think it’s ever safe for anyone to play the token black, gay, fat, super skinny or cute friend. Be friends with ppl who value u just as much as u value them and no hidden agenda
Well said!! Go where your valued and know, understand your value full well all while doing so! It's better for that to always be a reminder than a first time lesson learned or even sadly a constant lesson learned.
lol damn I’m never this early. But I was looking forward to your thoughts on this. I’m definitely team Cleo tho… if Spice knew she wasn’t going to be able to take care of her the way she said she was, she should’ve never invited her in the first place. Asking her to come with her the day before the tour started was definitely a set up.
the whole comment Cleo made about Ice being dark and souless was weird to me, bc nigeria is a very spiritual country so Cleo would've picked up on that from the inception yet she was friends for so long with a dark and soulless person. What did they do when they hung out that she didn't notice b4?? I feel like this is why we need to really examine our friendships
@@alkahinat4558 lol I always felt an Unrealness to her. Like she never seemed like an actual person to me until I realized how… she a ain’t shit girl😂.
I would have just left after I saw my Telfar bag laying outside the door, on the floor that’s so Disrespectful lows. The card was charged on top of that would make you wanna fight
I do think ice spice is shady however, I will say that Cleo should’ve gotten her management involved before going on this tour. Regardless of what someone promises you, this is a business so if its not in a paper then it’s not set in stone & doesn’t count.
@@COGJUDAYA I didn’t see where either of them said that but nonetheless Cleo did not have to go on that tour. I’m pretty sure ice wouldn’t have cared in the end.
Something didn't sit well with me when she invited Flo Milli at her Hot97 performance soon after being accused of gaining from "light skin pretty privilege', it felt calculated, hoped I was wrong though
I was ready for this video, it is disappointing that Ice Spice did not beat the mean girl allegations. I won't lie I was one of the people that laughed or shrugged off Baby Storme but Cleotrapa's story showed a very nasty side of Ice like you said. And Lying about being Nigerian or even exaggerating the percentage is weird and she shows she'll do anything to get black brownie points.
But why laugh/shrug off storme's story? What makes her finally telling her own experience any less...? Sometimes you gotta think to look at it like if one tells it there's more to tell it on the way. Ntm, looking to see how the person reacts even if you think they "aren't".
Wait, that's how ice spice sound? I wasn't expecting that. I don't even know anything about these two women but I still watched because I love your content.
@@honks9484 I’m well aware, but for photos for example, when one person is dressed and the other is more casual, the mismatch is heightened. And there’s nothing wrong with him matching her fly. Shows more cohesion.
I don't understand ppl sayin it's wrong for Baby Storme and Cleo to expose Ice Spiceless 😭😭 Wouldn't you want to be warned about someone who moves like that? Although I think she's too big fail now unfortunately, at least other dark skinned artists, (and ppl in general really) might be a little more wary about working with Ice.
It’s only a shock to people on the internet 24/7 spewing negativity. Real people who don’t love gossip and drama can’t respect a person who exposes a friend/ex after a fall out. It’s not respectable or professional. What is the internet going to do? Really. Show some fake love? They really don’t care at all and just love the drama. What happens after the dust settles and all your new fans don’t support and aren’t genuine bc they’re just Ice haters. It’s really sad but the truth is Cleo will be viewed by people in her industry as unstable and untrustworthy. Cleo heard that Ice would be touring in EU and AUS without her and basically crashed out committing career suicide 😢
@@janesong373i mean she didn't really commit career suicide but everything else you said is agreeable and true, ig. She'll still have her career no matter how small, underrated, off the map it is. Just like storme. They have their own individual fanbases. Ntm if they really care they'll still push even with setbacks or stilled environments.
You see ppl still support cardi b, right? Megan did a song (songs my bad😂🥴) with her, Flo milli (and that's egregiously disappointing being as though she's an actual darkskin)..all these black esp actually darker skinned women still move to praise her like she really deserves it. She has dense ass black fans that defend tf outta her for some reason. You can put out hope but no time soon is going to actually come back well.
15:34 *correction* they did not eat McDonald’s they didn’t eat at all. highly encourage everyone to take the time to watch the full 45 minute, 6 part video. i’ve been watching different reaction videos and it’s been like playing a game of telephone.
I’m not gonna lie Ice spice behavior is very common for girls from NewYork I’m born and raised from NewYork Queens to be exact and the “bully” behavior is typical and disgusied as “friendship”
Not Chioma making an AOT reference! This was bound to happen after Baby Storme's exposé because you can only get away with a nasty attitude so far. It also helped her that no one liked the album.
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First time ever see or hearing of Cleo
Every time theres a dark skin mad at a light skin its colorism.......maybe just maybe ppl like her music more. Why dont yall think of that. Nasty red is bigger than that Cleo girl is it colorism too???
Yall dont think at all. But its easier to dumb down and blame it on the skin tone. Keeping black ppl as victims as always. Shes just not popping. It sucks but it is what it is.
What makes it worse is Ice STOLE Cleo’s style and was asking Cleo to be around her everywhere. Now shes trying to act like Cleo is a fan and a bum. Crazy work.
Really? That's insane fr
@@Niona_Shashai yep, Ice got around Cleo and stared dressing like her, asking her to be in all of her videos to use her as her token black friend.
@@Niona_ShashaiIf you look at Ice's older posts she really wore basic clothes and Jays. Ice was rocking that good fashion nova bbl aesthetic of clothes. Now she has on the mini skirts, the flashy belts, chunky shoes, and has a lot of the alternative y2k style that Cleo has been rocking for way longer. It makes sense.
Yeah maybe the clothing style, but if we being tit for tat, Cleo started to use Drill beats on her music AFTER becoming friends with Ice (her oldest Drill song is 2 years old)... Ice has been making drill for almost 5 years, so lets be fair, friends exchange things, lets not be petty when they BOTH took things from eachother.
Literally ABSORBED her sense of style , but claiming that Latto wanted to be like her 😂 heauxx , YOU don’t even wanna be like you 💀
In all seriousness Cleo knew Ice was fake but didn’t know to the extent. She went last minute on the tour thinking it would be a good opportunity, and Ice tried to torture her the whole time. Evil.
Don’t worry Karma is a b… you know the rest! She’s falling off hard asf and I am here for the universe correcting itself!!
Cleo is an opportunist. End of story. Ice still shouldn't treated her like a stray dog.
@@platinumheart_ Cleo literally said no to going initially like lets not
@@GrowingAndGlowing123 Okay 😭 Make sure you go buy her music and stream 🎀
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Ice thinking she gave Nicki an opportunity shows how DELUSIONAL she is. She has thirty minutes… THIRTY.
Bout 6 left...
Like who tf told em that they was like Nicki oh no bitches didn’t 🤣😭🤣😭🗣️🗣️🗣️
She has to be a narc
@@vegannn7178 That’s the only thing that makes sense!!
@@vegannn7178 🤔
Ice Spice was a high school bully and never changed her ways. I am disgusted that she basically tortured Cleo for speaking up for herself and even mistreating the hairstylist who Cleo befriended. I do think Cleo should've gotten some type of contract involved, and she should've kept quiet regarding baby Storm. However, it doesn't negate that Ice Spice is badmind and wrong.
This. A tiger never changes it's stripes...
A high school bully that look like a slow ass Stewie griffin in an orange lace front is crazy work
@@marquethagod1769SCREAMING 😂😂😂
@@marquethagod1769not Stewie Griffin in an orange wig! That’s nasty work 😭🤣🤣🤣
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Spicey:
my mom is ungrateful and delusional
Nicki: ungrateful and delusional
Cleo: ungrateful
Hmmmm
“Ungrateful” implies she did something for them and they didn’t return the favor or didn’t appreciate it . Idk much about her mom but Nicki, who was already established, being “ungrateful” for a feature, despite a “Nicki Feature” being a status symbol for many artists, is just pure delusion. And with the Cleo situation, it just confirms her head getting way too big that she probably believes that they didn’t deserve her breath. Knowing how people are already getting fed up with her music due to the very weird pattern in them and the events of these situations, her career is going to be even more short-lived than she was bargaining for and it was all because of her. I hate the word humble as it is a very misconstrued word but the lack of class, respect, and self-awareness she has for those people listed is her downfall.
@@Chickenleg-hl4le you’re spot on with what you said! Her association to Nicki made her bigger, how tf can Nicki be ungrateful?! And Ice literally took Cleo’s whole STYLE. Where’s her gratitude for Cleo?! She never promoted Cleo’s music and invited her on tour last minute. Ice ain’t shit.
All I have to say about this is I’m glad she spoke her truth because as a brown / dark skin girl we are told to take it and smile or be quiet 🤫
No, ma’am!! Be out loud n proud!!
Right! And I’m glad for the most part people are showing Cleo empathy, she deserves it
Who told y'all that?
FACTS!!! I’m glad Cleo spoke out.
@@Bluntgirly its the lived experience of many
"Ice has melted" sent meeeee 😂😂😂.. also, the dossier ad is too cute!!!!
I also disagree with the fact that people were calling out Cleo for exposing the texts and story. Abuse THRIVES in silence.
People should always speak up on abuse
That's what had me confused too bc they did the same with baby storme. "Oh I couldn't have a friend like that..." "What typa friend is she really" "if she was my friend" "I can't believe as her friend she exposed their convo...its not that bad except her sharing the messages that shoulda stayed secret" -yet are y'all not really taking in wtf is being put out in front of you? I mean ofc obvs they didn't care to, but still. A person can only be battered in so much and you shouldn't feel the need to negate them or throw anything out at them negatively when they do come out with it. Even if it is your favorite person, or a person you just don't feel like believing is like that. In both exposed messages shit was being said from ice yet overtly dense ppl seemed to only care how bad and downright vile "exposing it like that" was ..like what? 😪😒😑
this plus like, as normal people the equivalent would be telling everyone who asked why you fell out why you fell out instead of some vague answer or none at all. To me this is something people should 100% if abused or mistreated. We don't wanna support some1 horrible
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Nobody was calling her out though. Don't lie.
@@mrsx7944 they were. They were calling her and baby storme out for being odd and fake friends themselves that they would never want to have. all bc they leaked "ultra top secret never to be shared" text messages...from an odd fake friend. If you didn't see that part, that's ok. But don't give unaware input either.
Girl you gave TOO much credit to Ice, calling her a “giant” 😭😭 when Ice Spice vanishes , absolutely nobody will miss her
this, she hasn't acc done anything for rap or hip-hop culture, nobody will remember her they'll remember Doja or Doechii even
After watching this, I thought just imagine when the times come and ice spice asks the security to take her bag from a to b, and he says no.
can we just discuss how at the CORE how EVIL a person has to be to literally TORTURE somebody YOU invited
Where is yall getting this word TORTURED from? I swear the internet is so dramatic lmfaoo
This happens a lot: someone that you think is your friend invites you somewhere ..just for you to be mistreated the entire time. (The point is to tear you down so they can feel better about themselves) Then when you confront that “friend” about it, they make you feel guilty about speaking up for yourself. I’ve experienced this and I’ve seen other women get treated like this at work, school, parties, etc. When you speak up against a narcissistic person, they loose that sense of power and superiority over you ..that pisses them off.
@@GrowingAndGlowing123 Feeling like and being is different. I'm going to give yall the actual definition lol
the action or practice of inflicting severe pain or suffering on someone as a punishment or in order to force them to do or say something.
Ice Spice did not torture Cleo no matter the FEELINGS yall feel lol
@@platinumheart_ have you heard of a hyperbole? LMAO
Thanks for this brief English lesson 😅
ice spice is a brat , can’t stand her and won’t stand her
Ion think I could look at a Chicken Salad the same after this😂😂😂
NAHHH ME TOO ✋🏼😭
Most of yall didn’t like her any way
@@YogaWDía What’s their to like ? Like seriously ?!!
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5ti she ain’t did nothing to me. I have nothing against her. I do think she’s pretty though
Which is exacly the problem people thought she was pretty so we gassed her up way too much. Knowing she had 0 talent. And now she got 100 % ego@YogaWDía
Cleo is the girl that said “Save Me a Baby father” in 2019, and many other viral videos, she had a really significant following for years now. I’ve been a follower of her since 2019. Since she lived in New York.
This. Before I ever heard of some damn Ice.
I just watched that video, I’m crying lmaooo
I hate listening to ice spice talk. She literally says bro in at the beginning and end of every sentence. 🤢🤮
she got no discernible personality 😭
I thought it was just me, I have no desire to listen to it at all
I'm thinking it's a New York thing atp😂
@@CherylAgyeman as a new yorkian, i very much agree i find myself saying bro, like, word, dayroom the list goes on like too many times a day i just did it again with like lmaoooo 😭
@@CherylAgyeman maybe for a 24 yo, been a New Yorker all my life & nah 🤣
Ice spice definitely befriended her to steal her sauce whether it was her clout, her fashion, her hints of personality. Those types of people are the real vacuums, the real soulless people that don't have a personality so they take other people's. A real energy vampire.
She talks about herself with every diss to someone else
‘Got these b!tches biting all my flows’ while doing her best Nicki Minaj impression
‘Got your head gassed’ her big head is super inflated from going viral
‘Ungrateful and delusional’ girl! Stop talking about yourself that way 💀
She lacks personality so much it hurts 😂
“I’m the REAL Nigerian” 😂🤣
This is the issue with ALOT of celebrities, they are surrounded by YES MEN that they hate to hear the truth about themselves. Its sad.
I knew about Cleo for a longgg time, since she always been popular in my city. Cleo is stunning and ice spice stylist stating that she kept referring to Cleo as “black ahh” pissed me off. Like darkskin women get below the bare minimum and it’s sickening! She needs to be humbled I’m over “icespice”
Ice Spice is a huge Colorist
Not me having to wake up at 4am but staying up to hear what the Queen has to say
22:34 we all knew carrot top is on ozempic idk why some people lied to themselves and tried to defend her saying she’s not
Cause her weight loss was GRADUAL not sudden like a Christina Aguilera or Kelly Clarkson for example.
it wasn't that *gradual* Two, if someone fluffy and thick like ice spice was just that- then in a matter of two weeks was borderline, unnaturally slimmed down...yea no. You could see the dramatics from the MV she did with central cee. If she generally lost weight that gradually and naturally she wouldn't had that look to her. And, actual fat would still be present in certain areas they would usually be if it *WAS* that gradual and natural. They wouldn't have that unhealthy, all too fast, and wrong deflated fat look. It's basically a composition, proportion thing and both of them weren't adding up. @OGseoulite
@@OGseoulite ^ THATS FOR YOU BUM
Cause she acts like somebody who likes to go skiing ❄️ I bet she’s skiing rather than doing ozempic
@@OGseouliteexcept it wasn’t, we saw her 3 weeks later and 3 weeks is very sudden
It's giving Danni Leigh 👀
2.0! Dani Leigh is terrible! Just been arrested for another DUI!!
YUP. I said the exact same thing🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️🤦🏾♀️
Big time. Just more mean and nasty
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5tiit was one DUI
Oh yes as usual😂😂😂😂
Not the ice has melted LOL
"You could have at least say that I'm Black"!!😮
She lied about the Ozempic she lied about being Nigerian. Her father is Hispanic 😂😂
She’s definitely not more than a quarter black. Her dad is very obviously a half black half Spanish man. He looks so similar to my brother who is half black half Puerto Rican.
I really wanna feel bad for Cleo but I really can’t… she saw what baby storme said and what she went through and still proceeded to think she was the exception to colorism… ice spice has been weird and has been showing that she don’t like black women
Exactly!!! She wasn’t even in a contract to stay. She took disrespect after disrespect just because she wanted fame. Now she’s spilling because she basically didn’t get ish after taking all that crap from ice.
Right! People like her really want to be apart of the club.
True but I feel like she really thought that Ice was her friend so she was riding for her regardless, idk🙆🏾♀️
@@solaris5922ima say that it’s more of biting the bullet for her benefit. We all have to start small when building a career. Sometimes you gotta be the store runner before you go Big Dawg 💅🏾
Exactly
I already know what happened and saw peoples take on it but I’m watching because I want to hear YOURS! Here to support
Same here
Ice spice was projecting BAD in her defense. If anything she's the entitled one. All that entitlement yet such a lack of talent..
It’s crazy. Truly absurd
Idk why Ice Spice acting like Cleo wasn’t popping way before her… like be fr
No one knows who Cleo is ……. I wouldn’t use the term “popping” lol
I’ve honestly never heard of her and that’s the major censuses I get from people discussing this.
Know one knows Cleo at all, doesn't excuse the behavior. But who is she
@@0000bnk She been poppin if you was on instagram 2018- until now she been had buzz around her name do sum research before you talk
She can’t be for real…because if she could, she’d put down that mic and try something else
She doesn't understand that to be a rude girl in the industry. You need to be talented, Mariah carey? Nicki ? Ariana? These women are irreplaceable thats why they can get away with the mean girl persona
Mariah isn't even really mean
Right
it's the way i didn't watch a minute of Cleo's exposé but i already believed her
Let’s talk about how ice was sayin latto was jackin her style when she was biting Cleo this whole time 😅
Oh yeah, Ice Paprika definitely shot herself in the foot with that response.
This took me out!! lol 🤣🤣🤣
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5ti lmao I am not calling that h0 ice spice NO MO! 🥱🙄😭😂
Ice Paprika 🤣 😂🤣
I hated the way she treated Cleo & btw I believe almost all she said. I just wish she had a lil contract or something done up. What i hated more than anything was IS response, calling her careless bum was awful! But I knew Nicki didn’t unfollow for nothing, Nicki is a business woman & she definitely put a bad taste in her mouth. She really is a mean girl, God bless Cleo
I agree. if cleo had gone into this as an artist nkt a friend she would have asked for proper accommodation and pay. even proper promotion. ice was never her friend
Right ! Omg when I heard ice spice call out Cleo for eating a lot of food In a restaurant.. I was like duhh... You starved her n your makeup & hair stylist on the tour 😑😑
Ice Spice is mad weird & self-absorbed. Talking about we got another bus/ extra bunks so that’s why she ended up inviting her. So only thing you thought your FRIEND needed on tour was a damn bunk?! Gave her a day so she couldn’t even prepare properly. Never even promoted her or put her on the bill.
Ice gave her crumbs & mad at Cleo for trying to make cake of the situation & calling her out on her bullshit. Ice is immature AF.
Cleo shouldn't have went.
Cleo is so much prettier than that big head space alien looking ice spice.
This how ice spice be looken 👽
@@Princessmisaofficial🤣🤣🤣🤣
So much prettier, and I hope Cleo knows it. ALIEN 👽 HEAD COULD'VE NEVER THOUGHT 🤭🤭🤭🤭
She resembles Roger from American Dad 🤭
@@Princessmisaofficial 🤣 🤣 🤣
I’m tired of talentless people becoming rappers and put on a pedestal because they have a certain body type. I blame Cardi B for this epidemic. I like Cardi B but now I’m starting to think she should have never been let in the door if it would lead to this.
I never cared for Cardi AT ALL!! She just never sat well with me! Like in the beginning she had a likeable personality but, just never cared for her!! And she definitely lowered the standard in female hip-hop!!
Don’t why TH-cam is some bullshit deleting my shit about Cardi B! She lowered the standard in female hip-hop PERIOD!!
Ice Bigheaded Spice is Cardi B’s son, she saw her getting big and thought, I can do that. And she’s even less of an entertainer than Cardi B is, at least Cardi B has personality and can perform.
Y'all still liking and finding nooks and crannies to praise cardi b for whatever reason is a real crazy epidemic in itself.
I think cardi is a pretty good dancer, well, “dancer”, yk that’s literally how she started her career, striping, to each their own, but yea I wish she wrote her own stuff, they sell her good, I love her work but it’s not really her.
But compared to ice spice it’s so much different, and she doesn’t openly get herself in drama unless someone starts it.
This is the 2nd time ice mistreated a darkskin lower known friend. & baby storms did say she was a bully.
The way you slide into that promo! 😄
The dossier ad was adorable 🥰
“All due to her shade…all shade 🧐.” 😂😂😂😂
The ad was so cute u looked beautiful the hair makeup dress everything😍
Thank you so much!! 🩷
Ice Spice def a colorist and she got mad that Cleo was getting shine at that basketball game.. it wouldn’t surprise me that Nicki wanted to humble Ice by making her sign to Heavy on it cuz it’s tru what Cleo said she got lucky and didn’t have to grind so if she already had a stuck up attitude then I can only imagine how she is now
I Can See Cleo Signing To Heavy On It
@@ElijahMCMalik. And finally a talented artist Nicki can sign to her label!
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5tiI hope Nicki signs her, she would get respect for that. It was so clownish to attempt to sign ice
@@vegannn7178it was clownish bc she doesn't really have anything to her. But for a moment it was "smart" (semi) bc she had the hype behind her. Hopefully tho Nicki does sign Cleo and many more talented artists like her.
Colorism is really relevant Cleo was a pawn and ice ds friend also ice need to keep her issues with other girls at home cause not everyone is jealous of you
You can see the way how she talked about Cleo after the whole situation calling her a vacuum…
I remember seeing the pictures from when the tour was ongoing. I thought to myself “yea something isn’t right” cuz I just knew it was just to make up for the thing with baby storme. Honestly I would’ve been more surprised if nothing crazy like Cleo getting mistreated didn’t happen. I’ve always liked Cleo and I met her once and she was so sweet. Sorry that that happened to her.
Why do I low-key think ice spice will become so unlikeable that one day she will go crawling to SZA for fame just because SZA is so nice to everyone
This is so random! But that wouldn’t do her any good!! SZA is RNB not hip-hop and TDE wouldn’t touch that with a 100-ft pole! They only sign ACTUAL TALENT!!
FAM!!! She literally just did about 40 mins ago 😂😂😂😂!!! You smart af
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5ti this is not random because Ice spice was on SZAs stage multiple times and SZA being SZA was just being friendly as always so ice spice might try to use her next since to put out good music she needs to collaborate with good artists because Ice spice sucks a$$
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5tibig facts 👏 ❤ TDE
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5tisza has sung with many hiphop artist, but I don’t think any female ones tho, so yea she probably wouldn’t.
Ice spice literally copied tf out of Cleo. Not just the clothes, everything.
Even the personality imagine🥱☠️
@@SONIA-q5i right!
30:45 “this attack on Titian” IM YELLING LMAOOOOO
I feel bad for artists like Flo Milli and Cleo…they get used for these think pieces and then everybody forgets about them again smh
What world are you living in…. These women are successful with loyal fan bases
@@labeezly6080successful enough, yet still underrated. It's what you would think to call a niche fanbase; their own solid small fanbases. They don't really get GP checks and when they do it doesn't really have to much of an affect on their careers. The only way it does is if ppl are still trying to troll and shit on them still no matter the situation but esp with these types.
@@labeezly6080instead of hyping women like ice spice who keep showing yall all the time that they don't rock with yall but some how they are the first to copy and imitate yall in anything yall do you should be supporting women who look like yall like Flo, Cleo, Doechi, glorilla💀
Lmao that’s so true. That’s because people don’t actually care offline.
@@SONIA-q5i who is hyping ice spice?? Are you on meth? I clearly stated that Flo Milli, Cleo and doechii have loyal fan bases and are VERY successful. Not in spite of anyone. From pure talent.
Ice spice’s former stylist confirmed that what Cleo said was true he was on the tour too and she made racial remarks about Cleo too .. I am done with Ice spice .. she’s blocked on every social media and I ll never support her again
The BC especially bw like supporting women who keep showing them straight to their faces that they don't rock with them its so annoying☠️
Yesss just what I needed a Chioma vid. Lemme grab my snacks lol
The dossier promo vid🔥you looked bomb for date night😍😍😍
My 2¢… First off, Ice and Cleo were never genuine friends. Maybe in the beginning Ice’s intentions were good but after gaining some traction I think she realized how beneficial it would be for her image to be “besties” with a pretty, LIT, Nigerian girl like Cleo. Ice definitely USED Cleo for CLOUT. Point blank. If you from New York you definitely seen CLEO BEFORE AN ICE SPICE. Now…
ICE and her TEAM invited CLEO on tour to save face after the situation with STORMI exposing how she really feels about Cleo. They invited her last minute so that she WOULDN’T come or so that even if she DID come she wouldn’t be prepared and on her A Game! (No special outfits, no rehearsing, no promo). Hence why ICE told her “everything would be covered don’t worry, you’ll be with me”. They didn’t WANT Cleo to get a contract drawn up with her management or get a budget established. Once Cleo decided to come, I feel like Ice and her team were like ok now people can see we’re still cool, but like I said before Ice never was her GENUINE FRIEND. That’s why she ALLOWED her security to treat Cleo that way. LIKE CLEO SAIDDDD- Ice wasn’t expecting her to check that shit so quick! Had Cleo NOT addressed it, Ice would’ve been cool with her on camera but would’ve continued with the passive aggressive behavior. Cleo being so vocal definitely pissed Ice off and set the precedent for how she would treat her for the rest of the tour. Ice NEVER wanted to share her stage with Cleo!! She wanted to USE Cleo like the token black bestie. She never wanted people to see how talented her bestie was! She did all of this to SAVE FACE. Even before the Stormi shit, Ice ONLY tweeted Cleo’s lyrics when she was beefing with someone (I cant remember rn who that was whether it was Cardio, Latto but yea). She was just never a true friend and she’s clearly not even a DECENT human being. How tf you know yall in the middle of nowhere and didn’t invite one of the opening acts (your supposed friend) to dinner?! That’s disgusting.
EXACTLY!!! And she didn’t paid for some wigs that cost around 20k! Still owe the guy money! This girl is some sort piece of work!!
@@GrowingAndGlowing123that’s literally what he said and said it with chest too. His response made me mad, he sounds so…cold. Calculated. If those are the people Ice Bigheaded Spice has around her, then no wonder she’s so full of herself. Talking about hits when his artist looks lost when asked to freestyle and twerks instead. He’s just milking his cash cow.
@@GrowingAndGlowing123 EXACTLY!!
@@alkahinat4558 Facts, Ice is mediocre af. Her team is the only reason she’s as popular as she is. They put her in the right positions. She really skipped the “grind stage” like Cleo said. They got her on songs with Nicki Minaj! Lied to Nicki saying Ice would sign to her label. Just for her team to turn around and tell Ice that Nicki is asking for too much. And of course her bird brain ass fell for it. She thinks if she signs to any other label they not gonna ask for the same shit?! If not more? Why wouldn’t you want to sign to the most successful female rapper? It don’t matter how anyone feels about Nicki’s music she is the ONLY female rapper that was SMART enough to navigate the music industry. Ice calling Nicki ungrateful as if Princess Diana didn’t become her biggest song AFTER Nicki got on the remix, like her numbers didn’t go UP after doing those songs with Nicki. It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to see that Nicki’s fans are the majority of female rap listeners. Ice and many other female rappers would have a LOT to gain if they sign with Nicki. But they always let people behind the scenes get in their head and convince them otherwise. Idk what it is but to some degree I feel like it boils down to them just not being confident enough in their own abilities.
@@AlysiaWilliams-oy5tiShe’s a scammer 🎯!
You ate this commentary up
The attack on titan reference went so hard & made a nerd like me feel so welcome here 😂😂😂😂 but also I agree with the sentiment. The type of people that are becoming famous are dangerous.
I’m very curious if ice spice is wearing an Annie wig.
It’s a very obvious wig for sure 😂
I love Cleo and her music. Her new song Rockstar slapsssss.
She’s a dweeb she’s a looossser 😂😂😂👑
Ice is using the Cardi b formula she’s as much Nigerian as Cardi is Trinidadian
The AOT Reference 😂🔥 PERIODT. Would love to hear you talk about anime if that’s what you are into !
Anime is bomb asf! 🔥🔥🔥
YESSS
I loved to hear her thoughts on what she’s watching/watched
I peeped ice spice from DAY1 I never got any REAL energy from her BUT on the flip side i definitely believe in my guts Cleo saw signs and thought she would benefit from standing side by side with her. I really thought this especially after those text messages got leaked! There’s no way what spice said should had made u gave her a “second chance” unless u knew it was some form of benefit to it. She was so proud to be the token dark skin friend to the point she was ready to fight Stormy n seemingly happy to be the only friend standing only for it to be a matter of time she got fed up faking the funk.
But with all that ICE SPICE WAS DEAD wrong but Cleo obviously turned blind eye to the bs from the jump. I don’t think it’s ever safe for anyone to play the token black, gay, fat, super skinny or cute friend. Be friends with ppl who value u just as much as u value them and no hidden agenda
Well said!! Go where your valued and know, understand your value full well all while doing so! It's better for that to always be a reminder than a first time lesson learned or even sadly a constant lesson learned.
The ad tho🔥🔥🔥
God na single I single ohhhh they don’t want to let me breatheeeee!
AOT reference too LMAOO i love it
Idc what anyone says ice and her family took that girl money. These artist aren’t making that much money
Prolly to bye them balenciagas the hair stylists sent her 😂😂😂
Ice was already exposed by a wigmaker for not paying her 20k
i love the dossier ad🤣
I've never been this early, Heyy Chioma 💕
Didn’t even like the banded notification completely load 😂… I love ur channel and commentary ❤
I was waiting for this 😭😭😭💕👀
That picture of ice on the floor w timbs looks creepy she looks 💀 inside
💯💯
Ice spice attitude is just as bad as her music 😂
It was the hairstyles who Cleo became friends with
You can have negative feelings or an attitude towards someone and still be right about certain judgments that you make about their character.
lol damn I’m never this early. But I was looking forward to your thoughts on this. I’m definitely team Cleo tho… if Spice knew she wasn’t going to be able to take care of her the way she said she was, she should’ve never invited her in the first place. Asking her to come with her the day before the tour started was definitely a set up.
Last minute invites are rarely genuine.
@melissamwihaki FACTS!
@@melissamwihaki. That’s true! That why I don’t take them on up there offer!
the whole comment Cleo made about Ice being dark and souless was weird to me, bc nigeria is a very spiritual country so Cleo would've picked up on that from the inception yet she was friends for so long with a dark and soulless person. What did they do when they hung out that she didn't notice b4?? I feel like this is why we need to really examine our friendships
She said she really don't know ice like that and they are more acquaintances...
she said they never spent more than 10 hours together BEFORE the tour. It was always just short gatherings or events.
@@sonyap8253if you are spiritual? Then you know. There’s no excuses. You feel someone’s soul the second you see them or hear about them
A long paragraph from somebody *who did not watch all 6 parts* nothing to see her folks..
Remember she said they never hung out over 10 hours...
I think it’s because she talk now. Like I think we liked her because she DIDN’T talk.
Remember when we were all excusing her mediocrity by saying ‘she’s so unproblematic 😍’ and look at us now loooool
Yup I agree. Once she started talking, people started realizing things !
@@alkahinat4558 lol I always felt an Unrealness to her. Like she never seemed like an actual person to me until I realized how… she a ain’t shit girl😂.
The anime references? Okay Chioma👏🏾😊
I would have just left after I saw my Telfar bag laying outside the door, on the floor that’s so Disrespectful lows. The card was charged on top of that would make you wanna fight
They wanted to trappa a whole set up like who moves like Scary spice 👱🏻♀️🫠🥴🤪
You looked so cute in your AD!! I never watch ads but that was a cute one!
13:06 😂😂 love this ❤❤❤
She really out here moving like Roger from American dad 😂
Another vlogger said Ice Spice got those empty Diddy Eyes and I can't unsee it.
Surviving Scary Spice she was shaking over Cardi B sending gooooonnnnssss 😂😂😂
I do think ice spice is shady however, I will say that Cleo should’ve gotten her management involved before going on this tour. Regardless of what someone promises you, this is a business so if its not in a paper then it’s not set in stone & doesn’t count.
She begged her and if she didn’t go it would’ve been a problem 😂
@@COGJUDAYA I didn’t see where either of them said that but nonetheless Cleo did not have to go on that tour. I’m pretty sure ice wouldn’t have cared in the end.
Miss poopie only gave her 1 day notice though
I was thinking the same thing. Why would you go on tour with a one day notice? It makes Cleo look desperate.
Something didn't sit well with me when she invited Flo Milli at her Hot97 performance soon after being accused of gaining from "light skin pretty privilege', it felt calculated, hoped I was wrong though
It's unfortunate that those who have a true love and dedication to music are often over looked by a more popular aesthetic....
The person I was waiting on. Eff TH-cam , imma act like this is breaking news
Starting to think she’s not a plant anymore cause how you flop sooooo bad
I was ready for this video, it is disappointing that Ice Spice did not beat the mean girl allegations. I won't lie I was one of the people that laughed or shrugged off Baby Storme but Cleotrapa's story showed a very nasty side of Ice like you said. And Lying about being Nigerian or even exaggerating the percentage is weird and she shows she'll do anything to get black brownie points.
But why laugh/shrug off storme's story? What makes her finally telling her own experience any less...? Sometimes you gotta think to look at it like if one tells it there's more to tell it on the way. Ntm, looking to see how the person reacts even if you think they "aren't".
Chioma, the AOT thread is so unexpected! I didn’t know you was taped in like that lol
right?!
Oh I was waiting for this one ☝️
Another banger 🔥🔥❤
Wait, that's how ice spice sound? I wasn't expecting that. I don't even know anything about these two women but I still watched because I love your content.
Girl your date night outfit was so cute, I just wish your man wore a button up shirt to match your fly 🥲🥲
He doesn’t have to
@@honks9484 I’m well aware, but for photos for example, when one person is dressed and the other is more casual, the mismatch is heightened. And there’s nothing wrong with him matching her fly. Shows more cohesion.
I don't understand ppl sayin it's wrong for Baby Storme and Cleo to expose Ice Spiceless 😭😭 Wouldn't you want to be warned about someone who moves like that? Although I think she's too big fail now unfortunately, at least other dark skinned artists, (and ppl in general really) might be a little more wary about working with Ice.
It’s only a shock to people on the internet 24/7 spewing negativity. Real people who don’t love gossip and drama can’t respect a person who exposes a friend/ex after a fall out. It’s not respectable or professional. What is the internet going to do? Really. Show some fake love? They really don’t care at all and just love the drama. What happens after the dust settles and all your new fans don’t support and aren’t genuine bc they’re just Ice haters. It’s really sad but the truth is Cleo will be viewed by people in her industry as unstable and untrustworthy. Cleo heard that Ice would be touring in EU and AUS without her and basically crashed out committing career suicide 😢
@@janesong373Girl Bye, these C0lorist narcs need to be exposed
@@janesong373i mean she didn't really commit career suicide but everything else you said is agreeable and true, ig. She'll still have her career no matter how small, underrated, off the map it is. Just like storme. They have their own individual fanbases. Ntm if they really care they'll still push even with setbacks or stilled environments.
You see ppl still support cardi b, right? Megan did a song (songs my bad😂🥴) with her, Flo milli (and that's egregiously disappointing being as though she's an actual darkskin)..all these black esp actually darker skinned women still move to praise her like she really deserves it. She has dense ass black fans that defend tf outta her for some reason. You can put out hope but no time soon is going to actually come back well.
Well, Cleo should of had her team to look in the logistics of it all.
Posted 1 minute ago oh I’m early early. Great video! 🩵
15:34 *correction* they did not eat McDonald’s they didn’t eat at all. highly encourage everyone to take the time to watch the full 45 minute, 6 part video. i’ve been watching different reaction videos and it’s been like playing a game of telephone.
the sponsorship LMAOOOOOO this is the best ad I ever seen
I’m not gonna lie Ice spice behavior is very common for girls from NewYork I’m born and raised from NewYork Queens to be exact and the “bully” behavior is typical and disgusied as “friendship”
I personally don't know who Cleotrapa was before this. But if she was that popping she should had her team to get logistics done.
Not Chioma making an AOT reference!
This was bound to happen after Baby Storme's exposé because you can only get away with a nasty attitude so far. It also helped her that no one liked the album.
To be fair, people were saying Baby Storme was actually mentally unstable and suffering from psychosis. It wasn't just a colorism thing in my opinion
The problem with the new girlies is that they don’t respect nobody and that they don’t know how to be strategic. Music industry is like the corporate life. Nobody is your friend, you’re lucky if somebody appreciate you enough. But when you arrive in the corporate world, you have to find yourself a mentor to LEARN, EVOLVE and more importantly PROTECT you since you can be chewed up instantly. Even when you pop off, you don’t disrespect you mentor. Never.