He's now free from the ban section in every game I'm playing now. He's the same as Cici when she was released. Too squishy in mortal and immortal in Late game. In the fighter role, he's damage output is too low and the CD is his main weakness
He's easily countered by enemies with CC. You can basically just CC him while he's doing Hold S2 to stop him from using it and make his combo worthless, he's slower when in Immortal Form which makes his movement predictable unless his S1 and S3 are up, and while he's doing Hold S3 he's basically asking you to combo him. Not to mention, having a single anti heal item can effectively nullify his sustain. At the same time, he's incredibly versatile and has strong bursts to compensate, he's very mobile and can cover mid range and close combat options, and in team fights, he has a lot of AoE for combos. He's balanced honestly
Natalia 2nd skills smokebomb are meant for the enemies to be defenseless So I suggest that when enemies are inside her smoke bomb they won't be able to produce shields nor life steal or heal,, It's also a way to help her teammates bursting down specific target easily since her main role is roam, Smokebomb, Anti-heal/Anti-shield Enemy should be defenceless inside her 2nd skill since smoke bomb is her domain
He pretty much is, yeah. The passive is Julian's however. His Tap S1 is just YSS S1, the Hold version is the S1 alongside with boat. His S2 is just YSS's but better, and can be done multiple times. His S3 is just YSS's Hold S2 but much faster. He just can't reveal all locations though.
@@ExposingOreo His tap version of S3 is just old Yss back flip skill. The Immortal bonus damage of 135% is YSS old melee passive of 150% bonus AD when on melee. Suyou' s3 bow hold is old Yss damage.
4:48 Yes! I've calculated that 40% is kinda impossible to achieve because you'd need 800 Atk to max the 40%. And Elgin is right, Dmg reduction doesn't make sense if you don't have HP Items. Terizla's passive makes sense because most of his Item paths are HP base.
That would make him diffucult to approach, since he has 20% Damage Reduction (Cap 40%) and deal 125% Damage. Meaning not only the damage hurt quite a lot, but also Safe during overextending.
Zhuxin is not for everyone actually😂, I'm playing zhuxin on 60ms ping, really slow and delay😂, but well maybe you guys got 10ms or below will enjoy playing her.
Suyou Skills S - Suyou 1st skill (Tap) - S Julian Second Skill 1st skill (hold) - S Khufra First Skill (hold) 2nd skill (tap) - S Faramis Second Skill 2nd skill (hold) - S Franco ult or Alpha second skill 3rd skill (tap) - S Clint second skill 3rd skill (hold) - S Yi Sun-shin Second skill (hold)
Also his normal first skill makes him invincible. Ik it's not mentioned anywhere but it does make him invincible and untraceable and u can use it to dodge stuns and cc and also dmg like Harley's ult and saber's ult but it needs very precise timing. Idk why it's not mentioned anywhere tho
Shoyu as midlane really shine because he can rotate and ambush at early lv 2 or lv 3 Lv1 up skill 2 , hold to clear wave instant lv2 up skill 1 and rotate. Use his s1 hold to stun and s2 hold , this combo will deal more than 50% onto the hero forcing them to recall 😂 after that return to midlane and clear the wave using s2 hold and rotate again.
It's up to the player I'm ok using It's just that some players don't really read his skills and use too much using his susanoo form rather than mortal form Like you can burst enemies down with his tap 2nd skill if the enemies are low hp + if you are confident with using sky piercer it gets a better high chance to straight up kill them and you also can do this trick at turle or lord like how balmond ult or dyr ult then use retr Edit:there's also many things combo you can do but i can't explain lot details since I am ain't good at english so just watch tutorial for better understanding and better advanced to used him
Is twilight armor a good replacement for Athena's shield? When the enemy I has only one burst damage mage wouldn't twilight armor be much more beneficial?
Here's another tip for Suyou. If anyone noticed, his tap versions of skill 1 and 3 gives him slight immunity. Skill 1 is like Lancelot's 2nd skill or Julian's enhanced 2nd skill, making him untargetable. For skill 3 gives him a slight duration of CC immunity as you can a little glimpse of turning orange which indicates CC immunity. This is helpful to micro enemies and evade their attempts of slaying u
Also those who said suyou DR [damage reduction] is high and since it can reduce physical and magic damage yea it is but remember DR cannot counter true damage + suyou is not like terizla since he is have high hp and his passive DR gettin increasing if his hp are gettin low Also gettin 40% DR through extra physical attack [aka through item Physical attack stat] are not easy since how elgin show his emblem and item and the total if his extra physical attack are higher to get 40% DR Imo just either using twilight armor or immortality to increase his hp so he can sustain more on teamfight [yea same with queen wings but that item its his prior item]
3:18 After the 2nd skill, you might want to tap 1 basic attack because you might be building War Axe and you want to procc its effect and Immortal form basic hits harder.
Aren't we talkin bout lapu-lapu he ain't gettin buff for long time ik he is balance but at least make him a bit advantage so he can have gettin attention other than like terizla/yz and Ruby
4:34 Yes, it doesn't 1 shot no matter what I try to build but his damage is high. I think Suyou is one of the most balanced release right now. Side by side with Phoveus new release, they're both balanced. However, Suyou is TOO elusive imo.
Suyo poke combo hold s1 and stun quickly s2 and escape with s3....enemies cant do anything unless they can chase u down.. Arlot, badang, ruby and heroes that can easily interpret his skills are good counter for him...with suyo always try to clear lane asap and roam... And suyo shines when he snowballs and farmed... So if you are against him intrupt his farms...and tanky enemy line up is a nightmare for suyo... I wish they dont nerf him coz hes balanced and a nerf will make him unplaybale
I thought I got the video recommended a way late, cuz everything covered in the video is something I've seen before. Or perhaps I'm having a really long deja vu?
Some extra Note, Zhuxin MP cost Decrease to 90-120 from 90-150 in the additional patch note right before starwars event. Now player don't have to be afraid to lvling up Skill 2 just conserve MP. On battlefield, just grab MP item grant her MP until 1200MP then she should be okay w/S2 lvl 5.
When would zilong be relevant in any meta game gets so boring now you see the same heroes being used in every tournaments and same heroes gets buff and nerf this game is no longer fun modern day people has no fresh ideas at all
To me its balance so he cant poking around the lane and jungler too much since his 4th skill cd are longer [60s] but the worse part is his 3rd ultimate now have stun 💀
Am i the only one who think Suyou is kinda balanced?
He may snowball early-mid but his late game is meh
Yeah even with his immortal forms damage reduction he's still easily bursted down
He's now free from the ban section in every game I'm playing now. He's the same as Cici when she was released. Too squishy in mortal and immortal in Late game. In the fighter role, he's damage output is too low and the CD is his main weakness
Because he had a good base damage but bad scaling (all his scaling are extra physical attack)
He fr is, the only thing unbalanced about him his the cd of his tap 1st and tap 3rd. He's so agile because of them
He's easily countered by enemies with CC. You can basically just CC him while he's doing Hold S2 to stop him from using it and make his combo worthless, he's slower when in Immortal Form which makes his movement predictable unless his S1 and S3 are up, and while he's doing Hold S3 he's basically asking you to combo him. Not to mention, having a single anti heal item can effectively nullify his sustain.
At the same time, he's incredibly versatile and has strong bursts to compensate, he's very mobile and can cover mid range and close combat options, and in team fights, he has a lot of AoE for combos. He's balanced honestly
Bruh I just realized from where they got the idea of his passive.
She's my main in HoK!
Mulan?
Who are you talking about and which Hok character is your main ?
Yeh it really seems like Mulan. I have her epic skin :p
Natalia needs more attention tho 😳
no, will get nerfs instead
Still op after they remove her pure invisibility 3 years ago I think
Nata should revamp her 2nd skill that will give her cc imunity when activated it same like hanabi 1st skill
Natalia 2nd skills smokebomb are meant for the enemies to be defenseless So I suggest that when enemies are inside her smoke bomb they won't be able to produce shields nor life steal or heal,,
It's also a way to help her teammates bursting down specific target easily since her main role is roam,
Smokebomb, Anti-heal/Anti-shield
Enemy should be defenceless inside her 2nd skill since smoke bomb is her domain
@@sanguinestaff4556
So... Suyou is just a glorified YSS?
In every conceivable way, yes, no difference at all lol
He pretty much is, yeah. The passive is Julian's however. His Tap S1 is just YSS S1, the Hold version is the S1 alongside with boat. His S2 is just YSS's but better, and can be done multiple times. His S3 is just YSS's Hold S2 but much faster. He just can't reveal all locations though.
@@ExposingOreo His tap version of S3 is just old Yss back flip skill.
The Immortal bonus damage of 135% is YSS old melee passive of 150% bonus AD when on melee.
Suyou' s3 bow hold is old Yss damage.
Improved move and atk feature is reason why wanwan suddenly became meta without buff for her
Wanwan is meta again? Previous patches she was so weak and falled off against other marksmen
4:48 Yes! I've calculated that 40% is kinda impossible to achieve because you'd need 800 Atk to max the 40%. And Elgin is right, Dmg reduction doesn't make sense if you don't have HP Items. Terizla's passive makes sense because most of his Item paths are HP base.
He have base 20%, and you can increase it until 40% max
1% every 20 physical attack..
so you need 400 physical attack..
agreed
Suyou's basic attack range should increase after using skill 3 while holding it, since he uses a bow instead of a sword.😅
That would be unbalance since in immortal form he already got 125% increase attack damage
Agree
Its kinda awkward spanking enemies with bow
That would make him diffucult to approach, since he has 20% Damage Reduction (Cap 40%) and deal 125% Damage. Meaning not only the damage hurt quite a lot, but also Safe during overextending.
He is not YSS
Zhuxin is not for everyone actually😂, I'm playing zhuxin on 60ms ping, really slow and delay😂, but well maybe you guys got 10ms or below will enjoy playing her.
Suyou Skills
S - Suyou
1st skill (Tap) - S
Julian Second Skill
1st skill (hold) - S
Khufra First Skill (hold)
2nd skill (tap) - S
Faramis Second Skill
2nd skill (hold) - S
Franco ult or Alpha second skill
3rd skill (tap) - S
Clint second skill
3rd skill (hold) - S
Yi Sun-shin Second skill (hold)
Shut the X up ya 😊
Claude , arlott , natalia and grock gets their mana removed so let's nerf wan wan.
-probably mlbb developers
She can atack faster now with her passive move faster thats a buff right there
@@cyclops9202 that's why she needs to be nerfed
@@aries2203 wich contradicts your comment
@@cyclops9202 you're no fun with jokes... You seems like that serious guy in every social gathering
@@aries2203 nice bait
Suyou: You're weak.
Julian: I am you.
Also his normal first skill makes him invincible. Ik it's not mentioned anywhere but it does make him invincible and untraceable and u can use it to dodge stuns and cc and also dmg like Harley's ult and saber's ult but it needs very precise timing. Idk why it's not mentioned anywhere tho
Bro making a video longer than 10 mins. The world is HEALING.
"Suyou is not a one shot hero" should have seen those raw damge build with only using the tap version
Pls... Change skin on the LUCKY SHOP...🙏😄👍
Game fact: *Lightning truncheon* and *wishing lantern* now have the same stats with same cost.
Only difference is their passive.
Lightning truncheon: vs squishies
Washington lantern: vs hard heroes
@@RUKA_BABYMONST7R not hard heroes, high hp heroes
@@tutortle1820 thats literally what I meant. Hard to kill heroes. Hard as a rock.
Like if you see this in the mlbb main account:
good tip for suyou I realize is you can cast s1 tap and s3 tap really quick and helps with traveling
Shoyu as midlane really shine because he can rotate and ambush at early lv 2 or lv 3
Lv1 up skill 2 , hold to clear wave instant lv2 up skill 1 and rotate. Use his s1 hold to stun and s2 hold , this combo will deal more than 50% onto the hero forcing them to recall 😂 after that return to midlane and clear the wave using s2 hold and rotate again.
Yo
still no Alu buff smfh
Moonton I thought you were planning some balance
They're not gonna buff that dude. They fcked up with his rework.
I wish they'd make a mage with similar mechanics like Suyou . With long ranged skills
I think mai shiranou in HOK might be something for you.
Lapu lapu still didn't got any buff from long time 😂😂😂
But still good tho but yea he need to get raise smh
Chip still feels broken tbh. Not as stupid as before but the stun on his ulti was a decent buff.
Broken in pro tournament, useless in random RG. Basically, the support/tank version of luo yi
This is a re-upload, right? Wow, still getting a ton of views for a re-upload.
Am i the only one here thinks suyou is weak in some matches?
It's up to the player I'm ok using It's just that some players don't really read his skills and use too much using his susanoo form rather than mortal form
Like you can burst enemies down with his tap 2nd skill if the enemies are low hp + if you are confident with using sky piercer it gets a better high chance to straight up kill them and you also can do this trick at turle or lord like how balmond ult or dyr ult then use retr
Edit:there's also many things combo you can do but i can't explain lot details since I am ain't good at english so just watch tutorial for better understanding and better advanced to used him
Is twilight armor a good replacement for Athena's shield? When the enemy I has only one burst damage mage wouldn't twilight armor be much more beneficial?
Yea it is + it doesn't have a cooldown like its old version [the very old one I'm talking about it] also this buff twilight is better than before
@@drakeniko1298 tnx for ur reply bro
Suyou is very fun and unfair especially when you chasing him
Why you chasing him? it's same like you chasing Fanny or Ling or hayabusa..
@@gameoflife9147soyou hits different. No limitations
It's not every physical atk but every "bonus physical atk"
Revamp Alucard's Child of the Skill!!!😢😢😢😢 And bufff
This update is underwhelming....
2months of waiting for nothing
Here's another tip for Suyou. If anyone noticed, his tap versions of skill 1 and 3 gives him slight immunity. Skill 1 is like Lancelot's 2nd skill or Julian's enhanced 2nd skill, making him untargetable. For skill 3 gives him a slight duration of CC immunity as you can a little glimpse of turning orange which indicates CC immunity. This is helpful to micro enemies and evade their attempts of slaying u
They should cancel the revamped Sun or just give Sun's 3rd skill a normal short stun
Suyou 2nd tap skill was similar like balmond but small fan-shaped and just physical damage version [not the true damage]
Also those who said suyou DR [damage reduction] is high and since it can reduce physical and magic damage yea it is but remember DR cannot counter true damage + suyou is not like terizla since he is have high hp and his passive DR gettin increasing if his hp are gettin low
Also gettin 40% DR through extra physical attack [aka through item Physical attack stat] are not easy since how elgin show his emblem and item and the total if his extra physical attack are higher to get 40% DR
Imo just either using twilight armor or immortality to increase his hp so he can sustain more on teamfight [yea same with queen wings but that item its his prior item]
They should nerf the hybrid defense on Clock or destiny it's 72 phy and 72 mgc defense at lvl15 that thing already have mana and hp regen at that
Edtih on thunderbealth can only get 50 true damage on his ult. Whatver stocks you have you only have 50 when you ult
So in conclusion Suyou basically like Julian with other heroes skills..
3:18 After the 2nd skill, you might want to tap 1 basic attack because you might be building War Axe and you want to procc its effect and Immortal form basic hits harder.
Suyou damage reduction is enough BUT you need to be ahead in snowballing
Queens wings if losing / Endless battle if winning
10:47 I died to Harley's ult because I was used to haya's old ult duration, so I couldn't immune Harley's ult :p
Aren't we talkin bout lapu-lapu he ain't gettin buff for long time ik he is balance but at least make him a bit advantage so he can have gettin attention other than like terizla/yz and Ruby
4:34 Yes, it doesn't 1 shot no matter what I try to build but his damage is high. I think Suyou is one of the most balanced release right now. Side by side with Phoveus new release, they're both balanced. However, Suyou is TOO elusive imo.
Suyo poke combo hold s1 and stun quickly s2 and escape with s3....enemies cant do anything unless they can chase u down.. Arlot, badang, ruby and heroes that can easily interpret his skills are good counter for him...with suyo always try to clear lane asap and roam... And suyo shines when he snowballs and farmed... So if you are against him intrupt his farms...and tanky enemy line up is a nightmare for suyo... I wish they dont nerf him coz hes balanced and a nerf will make him unplaybale
I thought I got the video recommended a way late, cuz everything covered in the video is something I've seen before.
Or perhaps I'm having a really long deja vu?
hate suyou and zhuxin
Most annoying thing about Suyou is his skills can cancel his basic attack animation. And his holding second skill is so easy to be cancelled.
I miss attack speed zhask. Now u can, easy get away from his laser. His minion also is, easy to kill. Maybe tank zhask?
Updating and offline mode features and unobtainable permanent skin or custom items as well unobtainable achievement from past event of the years
Moonton change skin on the LUCKY SHOP pls...!🙏😄👍
they're slowly killing zhuxin. poor girl 😭😭😭😭
I've noticed that the new heroes are very complicated while they trying to make older one to have simpler mechanics.
Tap skills for squishy targets hold skills for tanky ones
Thats why i lost the match using hayabusa not realizing he was nerfed
They should buff Xavier's mana, too!
Some extra Note, Zhuxin MP cost Decrease to 90-120 from 90-150 in the additional patch note right before starwars event.
Now player don't have to be afraid to lvling up Skill 2 just conserve MP. On battlefield, just grab MP item grant her MP until 1200MP then she should be okay w/S2 lvl 5.
When would zilong be relevant in any meta game gets so boring now you see the same heroes being used in every tournaments and same heroes gets buff and nerf this game is no longer fun modern day people has no fresh ideas at all
Please give aamon 5 movement speed and give option to do combos 😡 blind ML
what i wish moonton to fix is the macth making my team are always trash not trash taking just stating fax
Mage, gato should be banned. Imagine tank deal more, dmg than u have hp xd.
Skill issue 😅
@@demiurgerenz watching this way belerick also can build mage and tigreal should build full dmg(tigreal skills have pretty dmg scalling i heard)
he needs dmg since he's a fighter
@@mateuszpiwowar1278he is a fighter, what's unbalanced is that u can't read.
6:38 btw this is changed and its now 120 mana in late game
This dude has same t shirt when im choosing free skin trail earlier 🤯
I think you already posted the same video on ml channel
Tbh putting endless battle over brute force is better
Flicker combo on first skill(hold) is OP
Longest patch video of elgin??😮
Gold lane alice is already demolishing ranked rn lmao
Did the video was re-upload or it was just late?
Is this a reupload? These are old news
All these updates but no sign of Selena
tbh as a mage main user for me zhuxin is the easiest mage to use
Suyou shoul get a Madara skin xD
I don't believe they not remove mana on sun
y did they nerf popol when no one is using him
Stop using this hero on jungle pls it useless
Bro nolan so strong he got nerf so many times
Nerfing Chip like that really is a good sign that I will not be maining him now. He is already best as is before this.
To me its balance so he cant poking around the lane and jungler too much since his 4th skill cd are longer [60s] but the worse part is his 3rd ultimate now have stun 💀
No cap i have been using all the combos shown here in this video before this came out
Same
Is Sky Piercer (nerfed one) good for suyou, considering it is his weapon.
Yea with his 2nd tap skill as the finisher + with sky piercer it can have higher chance to kill down the enemies
Crit and attack speed build🗿
the new hero is so imbalance...
3:56 There is a 3rd build path...
Yeesssss!! Fahk all the OP heroes!!!!!
What about starlight shop update?
Sustain Valentina incoming 💯💯💯
First
Yeah lil bro
he reminds me of mulan from hok
Bro has a very handsome voice
mathilda still stops when she's releasing her 1st
Do u even play mathilda?
so, no nerf fanny's cable??
Suyou still a low tier hero
Is this from Orig or advance server?
OG server
Aren't you too late for this video?
Its just a compilation
Is critical soyu real?
Thunder belt still works wonders with ruby due to extra defense from her mini dash passive that stacks x3
Which deserves some def stack nerfs....
Oh yea i forgot her passive counted as extra defense lol
damn PnK meta is gone now
Suuuuuuuuuuiiioi-YO0000UUU!!!
HI po elgin1!! IDOL!!!
10 business day late
yo
Bro make more item videos