“Don’t know” takes us into the garden only insofar as “don’t know” cuts off subsequent thinking. “Don’t know” as continuous ignorance, striving for understanding takes one farther and farther away. ❤
I disagree with the premise that effort can't take one to effortlessness. For example, doing a minute of plank every day is effort and that makes certain physical work effortless. In spiritual terms it takes great effort to identify and remove internal obstacles in order to be with no thought, in full consciousness. Effortlessness is the result, but effort is the means. Or else one lives forever in the fluff. I am sure some will say that the effort is the fluff, the idea of it, the doing of it, the will, the motivation etc. But how does Francis or anyone else propose that people simply change their fundamental perceptional model, just like that? Sure, there are glimpses, and I believe everyone experiences them, but by what process can one change how one's mind habitually works, to become like what Francis describes? I don't believe that one can just drop it, I think it takes effort, rather, to put it down.
You are right even Ramana Maharshi stated that effort will eventually lead you to effortlessness. In other words, effortlessness is the destination. Relying on understanding alone could take years.
Yes Ramana and Nisargadatta said to do the effort and stick with it, to keep on with discipline, till one point is understood like Francis said and it's natural, than effortless. Do the effort to intent being one with Brahman, this effort result in the experience and keep distraction off, than you relax more but you stick hold into it with a tinny finger, if you drop and let mind wander ego arises. There's the point of permanence, yet the full relaxing and not holding which is a sort of doing, is another way to get into natural state. But Francis did lots of effort and mental analyzes to grasp it, he says that.
@@shadr8994bhakti devotion seems to be the best for me, I'm practicing God's presence from joel goldsmith Christian mystic is being much deeper and richer than oriental non duality, it's not different but more full of it, also he notes aspects of God, true self being a caring force thst takes cares of your life, bringing harmony, healing and health, prosperity, work, relationship naturally by attaining true nature which is very true and beautiful. Oriental non duality is more dry.
It takes effort at first, then some kind of vigilance to stay in that "point" that Francis is talking about, it's the most natural state there is, yet the most difficult to maintain at first, as we are so used to bite off that apple.
@@BrotherChad I agree. Awareness aware of the self.. realising sounds more like it's for the person in duality.. Me claiming it some time ago in ignorance thought I've realised the self.. Well the idea of a me was the hardest concept to drop lol. 😉
@@janetmcgowan4659 well, the Supreme Self that you are doesnt say anything..so it must be something else. i say its the *i am* in conjucton with the mind technically..
@@BrotherChad well you have a choice..you can stay ignorant about what the Supreme Self that you really are IS or you can realize IT..thats my point of view..i can remember when i was ignorant and i can remember when the ignorance stopped.. and the truth of the matter is that the Supreme Self is ajata..It isnt aware of creation when creation is happening..*nothing ever happened* to the Supreme Self..
Well, If its non dual then its all there is and always already the case. Actually ajata means (uncaused or unborn) so there is no creation.. neither happening, nor not happening. But you're right, creation only appears to be happening, but is unreal. So, there only appears to be an individual with a history and a birth, that had ignorance about their true nature and then the absence of that ignorance.. but in reality that never happened, because your reality is Ajata.. (which is Satchitanada.. so nothing lacking, nothing that can increase or decrease).. Hence, Gaudapada says there isnt even any liberation or realiser, It was all just a conceptual structure to remove ignorance, but once ignorance is removed that is also discarded. The teaching only appears if there is ignorance, because only knowledge removes ignorance.
@@inspiringmedia3716 you can add cocaine shaker.That being nothing doing nothing become noone /You requires nothing. this is a very good formula to get low self esteem and depression.I think this man ''teachings'' made more peoples life worse than better.
Don't be mistaken, my friend. You can say simple things, but if the other side doesn't know how to listen, they will never understand. The problem is not the simplicity; it is the inability to hear and understand.
@@shinrinyokumusic1808 the answer to that question isn't going to help you. what you should be asking yourself is: can i really hear and understand francis?
Es importante comprender que Francis está hablando para iniciados en la no dualidad o Advaita, y para los iniciados lo que dice, no solo tiene sentido, sino que es brillante.
@@fabianandresdemurogarcia8725 BIO ALGORITHM IS VERY COMPLEX SUBJECT TO UNDERSTAND, KAHE PRABHU ITNI MAHENAT KARA RAHE HO, YAHA ROTI KAPDA AUR MAKAN KI CHAHATO KE MAARE HAI SAB❤️ZAAN🙏WAR ग्यान घंटा 🔔 समझेंगे
@@tarablack1518 YOU IN REALITY NEVER DECIDE ANYTHING AS YOU ARE UNAWARE OF REALITY, REALITY DECIDE IN YOU, GIVING YOU THE EGO OF DOING THAT मैंने किया, क्या घंटा🔔किया, जब पता ही ना था कैसे किया
@@tarablack1518 present is pure knowledge, your wish you make a dance, love, technology or ignorance, maximan knows only to,make, desire out of present reality
AHHHH!! The art of meaningless double talk leads to an effortless understanding if you accept it, spiritually I mean??? Do nothing, be nothing, observe nothing, think nothing OH CRAP!! I'm in HEAVEN!!! From now on don't talk to me, don't look at me!! I"M INVISIBLE!!!! Hey!! Has anyone seen Chauncey Gardiner ????
"the moment i dont know, im in the garden". Thank you Francis
Beautiful 💙
Thank you so much Francis, lots of love and gratitude
I Love Francis and hope to see Him again soon!
Utterly Amazing in person!
Simply beautifully explained SAHAJA..thanks sir
“Don’t know” takes us into the garden only insofar as “don’t know” cuts off subsequent thinking. “Don’t know” as continuous ignorance, striving for understanding takes one farther and farther away. ❤
Silence is the highest teaching
thank you
I disagree with the premise that effort can't take one to effortlessness. For example, doing a minute of plank every day is effort and that makes certain physical work effortless. In spiritual terms it takes great effort to identify and remove internal obstacles in order to be with no thought, in full consciousness. Effortlessness is the result, but effort is the means. Or else one lives forever in the fluff. I am sure some will say that the effort is the fluff, the idea of it, the doing of it, the will, the motivation etc. But how does Francis or anyone else propose that people simply change their fundamental perceptional model, just like that? Sure, there are glimpses, and I believe everyone experiences them, but by what process can one change how one's mind habitually works, to become like what Francis describes? I don't believe that one can just drop it, I think it takes effort, rather, to put it down.
Mediante qué proceso ?
Autoindagación.
You are right even Ramana Maharshi stated that effort will eventually lead you to effortlessness. In other words, effortlessness is the destination. Relying on understanding alone could take years.
Yes Ramana and Nisargadatta said to do the effort and stick with it, to keep on with discipline, till one point is understood like Francis said and it's natural, than effortless. Do the effort to intent being one with Brahman, this effort result in the experience and keep distraction off, than you relax more but you stick hold into it with a tinny finger, if you drop and let mind wander ego arises. There's the point of permanence, yet the full relaxing and not holding which is a sort of doing, is another way to get into natural state. But Francis did lots of effort and mental analyzes to grasp it, he says that.
@@shadr8994bhakti devotion seems to be the best for me, I'm practicing God's presence from joel goldsmith Christian mystic is being much deeper and richer than oriental non duality, it's not different but more full of it, also he notes aspects of God, true self being a caring force thst takes cares of your life, bringing harmony, healing and health, prosperity, work, relationship naturally by attaining true nature which is very true and beautiful. Oriental non duality is more dry.
It takes effort at first, then some kind of vigilance to stay in that "point" that Francis is talking about, it's the most natural state there is, yet the most difficult to maintain at first, as we are so used to bite off that apple.
GRACIAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!The Perfume of Peace
Como encontrar el significado de mi procrastinación ? Como experimentar quien soy ? Como disfrutar la vida diaria ? Tal vez muchas preguntas ?
Falta de genuino interés, o necesidad.
Y ésta respuesta también es válida, para las otras dos preguntas.
realizing the non-dual Supreme Self is not simple..
@@chitraisenlightened says the mind!
@@BrotherChad I agree. Awareness aware of the self.. realising sounds more like it's for the person in duality.. Me claiming it some time ago in ignorance thought I've realised the self.. Well the idea of a me was the hardest concept to drop lol. 😉
@@janetmcgowan4659 well, the Supreme Self that you are doesnt say anything..so it must be something else. i say its the *i am* in conjucton with the mind technically..
@@BrotherChad well you have a choice..you can stay ignorant about what the Supreme Self that you really are IS or you can realize IT..thats my point of view..i can remember when i was ignorant and i can remember when the ignorance stopped.. and the truth of the matter is that the Supreme Self is ajata..It isnt aware of creation when creation is happening..*nothing ever happened* to the Supreme Self..
Well, If its non dual then its all there is and always already the case. Actually ajata means (uncaused or unborn) so there is no creation.. neither happening, nor not happening. But you're right, creation only appears to be happening, but is unreal. So, there only appears to be an individual with a history and a birth, that had ignorance about their true nature and then the absence of that ignorance.. but in reality that never happened, because your reality is Ajata.. (which is Satchitanada.. so nothing lacking, nothing that can increase or decrease).. Hence, Gaudapada says there isnt even any liberation or realiser, It was all just a conceptual structure to remove ignorance, but once ignorance is removed that is also discarded. The teaching only appears if there is ignorance, because only knowledge removes ignorance.
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Effortlessness is the ONLY way.
How to get to effortlessness?
Dont do with a goal to get something. Let all happen.
Dándose cuenta de que el esfuerzo no es necesario, sino más bien contraproducente.
💝🤍🙏🏻
Thtough a lot effort😂
If you want to get to effortlessness - drink 1 glass of wine before bed.
Thats effort😄
That would effortlessly give me a headache for the next morning.
@@alexanderradoev820 reliance on something outside myself has yet to work, not favorably anyway, and certainly not permanently
That's not enough
@@inspiringmedia3716 you can add cocaine shaker.That being nothing doing nothing become noone /You requires nothing. this is a very good formula to get low self esteem and depression.I think this man ''teachings'' made more peoples life worse than better.
NON DUALITY NEVER EXISTED TO EXPERIENCE , ONLY DUALITY OR SINGULARITY EXIST IN EXISTANCE, WHILE NON DUALITY IS NOTHING, WHICH CANNOT BE EXPERIENCED 🎉
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It can be experienced but there's no way of describing it with words. And it definitely takes effort.
@@sugarfree1894 😂🔔
Wrong
So simple 😅 This channel alone uploaded 145 video over 15 years. Apparently it it not so simple and effortless 😂
Don't be mistaken, my friend. You can say simple things, but if the other side doesn't know how to listen, they will never understand. The problem is not the simplicity; it is the inability to hear and understand.
It is very simple but not very easy 🤓
Did u realize the self sir?
@@fabian-yi7dh exactly! the truth is always that which is simple to hear, hard to hear, and good to hear, all at the same time.
@@shinrinyokumusic1808
the answer to that question isn't going to help you. what you should be asking yourself is: can i really hear and understand francis?
Without understanding the fundamental of languages, how can you fool people about the depth that is beyond the language model, 😂teach me
Es importante comprender que Francis está hablando para iniciados en la no dualidad o Advaita, y para los iniciados lo que dice, no solo tiene sentido, sino que es brillante.
@@fabianandresdemurogarcia8725 BIO ALGORITHM IS VERY COMPLEX SUBJECT TO UNDERSTAND,
KAHE PRABHU ITNI MAHENAT KARA RAHE HO,
YAHA ROTI KAPDA AUR MAKAN KI CHAHATO KE MAARE HAI
SAB❤️ZAAN🙏WAR
ग्यान घंटा 🔔 समझेंगे
By your Presence ... shining ... perhaphs this is more effective then any words .. so many ways ... the Presence dances
@@tarablack1518 YOU IN REALITY NEVER DECIDE ANYTHING AS YOU ARE UNAWARE OF REALITY, REALITY DECIDE IN YOU, GIVING YOU THE EGO OF DOING THAT
मैंने किया, क्या घंटा🔔किया,
जब पता ही ना था कैसे किया
@@tarablack1518 present is pure knowledge, your wish you make a dance, love, technology or ignorance, maximan knows only to,make, desire out of present reality
AHHHH!! The art of meaningless double talk leads to an effortless understanding if you accept it, spiritually I mean??? Do nothing, be nothing, observe nothing, think nothing OH CRAP!! I'm in HEAVEN!!! From now on don't talk to me, don't look at me!! I"M INVISIBLE!!!! Hey!! Has anyone seen Chauncey Gardiner ????