Emmanuel Acho vs Van Lathan = Uncomfortable Conversation between Black Men - Marcellus reacts

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  • I share my thoughts on the Emmanuel Acho and Van Lathan uncomfortable conversation.
    #EmmanuelAcho #VanLathan #BlackMen #TMZ
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  • @jasonwolfe3252
    @jasonwolfe3252 ปีที่แล้ว +258

    Acho loves speaking for black Americans while making the clear distinction that he's Nigerian not black American . That seems to be a problem with a lot of black immigrants, specifically the ones from the motherland. They want to pick and chose.

    • @mikejones-wn1sw
      @mikejones-wn1sw ปีที่แล้ว

      You still think that's yo mama's land? "Kansas City, Missouri---Disenfranchise the Negro and send him back to Africa? Absurd. Impossible. More than a billion dollars' worth of US real estate .Which he owns in his own name in the United States is not easily to be taken from him. Besides the negro is not an African--he is an American. "African " is a *misnomer. Why try to send him to a country that is not his own?
      Siler City, North Carolina
      We'd. June 19, 1912•Page 1

    • @beaujac311
      @beaujac311 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Jason Wolfe:. That's one of the reason I like Godfrey because he knows that we are all in this fight together.

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes ปีที่แล้ว +28

      This why we separating ourselves from everybody else.Ppl use black american benefits but have a separatist or even worse white mindset when it comes to affliating with us.Acho was them african kids who was the token black friend even though he didn't connect with black folks outside of skin color n sports activities

    • @walterkuchta9232
      @walterkuchta9232 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @beaujac311 Stop using collectivist language. There is no we. I am responsible for my choices, actions and life as are you.

    • @beaujac311
      @beaujac311 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      @@walterkuchta9232 I was not speaking as an individual I was speaking as a collective. Just think if the people who fought hard to gain civil rights for all would have thought like you.

  • @vikeyshamurray7553
    @vikeyshamurray7553 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    What's funny is Acho thinks he knows white Americans better than black Americans, from here.

  • @skokayi93
    @skokayi93 ปีที่แล้ว +197

    I honestly think AA are too nice. There is no way in hell one of us could go to Ghana or Jamaica etc, as a first gen or not, and be allowed to talk for them as a group nationally… would never happen.

    • @josh0253
      @josh0253 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Because the national culture is different. I'm second generation haitian, grew up in Miami in Housing projects and section 8 housing. if I go to the Dominican republic and tell them I'm Haitian in certain areas some of them will look down on me, even though we look exactly the same. I had friends in my projects that were sexond generation Dominicans gues what in america they dont care if I'm Haitian, theyre dominican, all they see is two black people. The system in america doesnt see culture with black people its just skin color, we'll be treated exactly the same no matter where we're from or our parents were from.

    • @sosabelton2164
      @sosabelton2164 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@josh0253 no not necessary maybe not your generations but olders look down on fda seriously my g

    • @dewayne638
      @dewayne638 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's it right there. We have no Nationality. We'll we actually do which is why they keep changing the name Negro colored Afro American now African American

    • @jasonwolfe3252
      @jasonwolfe3252 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      We're way too inclusive and want to be included. That has been our downfall. Others are way more tribal.

    • @edgartorres6482
      @edgartorres6482 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      You just another American to them. Hell, my parents are Dominican. If I go to DR, I’m just another American to them. Only Dominican Americans they claim are Alex Rodriguez Zoe Saldana and people like that who are rich and famous. Me? Im just American. So you’re absolutely right. You can’t just go to those places and lecture them about their experiences.

  • @brainoverbrawn3404
    @brainoverbrawn3404 ปีที่แล้ว +108

    Strong points Mr. Wiley. I'm a first generation Nigerian-American myself, I'm a Black man and that is not up for debate. Indeed, Black people in Africa, the Caribbean, the United States, Europe or wherever, have peculiar cultures and experiences that are unique to their particular circumstances. To a degree, we can seamlessly assimilate into each other's world based on the commonality of our shared Blackness...in other words, we do identify with each other's struggles and success, to the extent that we can relate, based on our levels of exposure.
    Nonetheless, I've observed that it is particularly annoying to the 'African-American' when other Black people come to the US and presume that they can speak on the Black experience in America. Quite frankly, their annoyance is justified. There are some things we can identify with, but in reality, we really don't know the depths of it.

    • @lumedeon8471
      @lumedeon8471 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Do you think my 20 year old niece “knows the depths of it”? Or my 40 year old cousin? Or my 50 year old black American co-worker? And what is “it”? You really think black Americans walk around feeling burdened by slavery that was abolished in 1865????

    • @brainoverbrawn3404
      @brainoverbrawn3404 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@lumedeon8471 The point is; it's not up to me to say what burdens they do or do not carry. Let them say it for themselves, as I'm sure they're perfectly capable of doing. It's that simple.
      For illustration, I'm Igbo from Nigeria, just like Acho is, and our people went through a bitter civil war(genocide really) against the rest of Nigeria, who had the support of Britain, Russia and the Arab world. That war was fought from 1967-1970 and the effects of that war very much lingers with the Igbo(most of whom were not even born then) today in 2023. The propaganda that was necessarily formulated to justify the genocide did not vanish into thin air after the war. It found expression in discrimination and marginalization that the Igbo still contend with till this day. Mind you, this was only a 3-year war and we're all Black people in Nigeria. An uninformed outsider would erroneously assume the war is a thing of the distant past and couldn't possibly have any impact on Igbos today.
      If African Americans who were fighting for civil rights(i.e. fundamental human rights) as recently as the 1960s contend that the effects of a severely harrowing past still reverberates today, it is not my place to tell them otherwise. Yes, I'm well aware that even among African Americans, opinions might differ on this, but that is besides the point I'm making.
      It goes both ways. Some drooling moron that took offense to Acho's antics left a comment here, ranting about how Africans know nothing about white supremacy and they need to go back to fix their countries and stop running to America. He fell into the same murky waters Acho fell into...which is; trying to make yourself an authority on another person's story when you haven't lived it and really don't have a clue.

    • @kewan2045
      @kewan2045 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@lumedeon8471as a black man I’ve heard stories about white people from great grandparents down from Mississippi. I still strive for greatness but the experiences aren’t the same for foreigners who haven’t had the stories and experiences from this country.

    • @555125kevin
      @555125kevin ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Black americans & black children of immigrants share the shame experience when it comes to discrmination in America. When white/latinos/asians discrminate against u it's based on your dark skin not where you're from. Will say they view a black immigrant with an accent as less threatening.

    • @beaujac311
      @beaujac311 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@lumedeon8471 Was it truly abolished in 1865? You need to read Slavery by Another Name.

  • @mharp6166
    @mharp6166 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Acho was sooooo dismissive about the subject, and defensive.... Makes me look at him differently...

    • @elreydeoro2310
      @elreydeoro2310 ปีที่แล้ว

      He’s phony and a fraud. Just look at his haircut. That tells you all you need to know. He’s a Diva.

  • @D-AVGGamer
    @D-AVGGamer ปีที่แล้ว +91

    Acho does too much tryin to be a star. He's corny as hell trying to be the "philosophical" commenter with all his word salads but his refusal to do anything but toe the company line.

    • @TommyDavidVerbal
      @TommyDavidVerbal ปีที่แล้ว +6

      100%

    • @deesee2051
      @deesee2051 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Exactly he talks about sports too seriously like it’s life and death that’s why his show is trash

    • @jasonsamuels2578
      @jasonsamuels2578 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      💯

    • @TheDominiqueBallou
      @TheDominiqueBallou ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@deesee2051 show isn't trash it'll just be better without him. You remove Acho from that panel and the #s would double within a year

    • @deesee2051
      @deesee2051 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDominiqueBallou well that’s not happening because it’s his show so it’ll continue to be trash 😂😂

  • @caesard.8711
    @caesard.8711 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    You're on point good brother, many foreign black politicians and entertainers speak on American Black Culture sometimes even publicly speaking on our behalf and on our past knowing it's not their lineage. It's very disrespectful and arrogant in my opinion. I appreciate you covering this topic.

    • @marcelluswileydatdude
      @marcelluswileydatdude  ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yep, respect the differences is all I ask

    • @otownboy8749
      @otownboy8749 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      To be honest, we really do not have a culture here. What is "black" culture?? Is two parent household even common with us?

    • @caesard.8711
      @caesard.8711 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@otownboy8749 We have a past culture that many foreign black's don't respect and constantly exploit.

    • @otownboy8749
      @otownboy8749 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@caesard.8711 yes, the reason they don't TRULY respect us is because of how far we've fallen within our own communities, but yet, we beg others for acceptance and inclusion. Before integration, we actually had a really strong economic base amongst ourselves, and were far more self reliant, and knew how to build our own commerce.

    • @caesard.8711
      @caesard.8711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@otownboy8749 I totally agree with you. It's time to dump all of the pumped up so called leaders that the mainstream media give us. They have lead us to self destruction and profited along the way. Now foreign bllack's are running the same game.

  • @thomasb2369
    @thomasb2369 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I miss seeing you in TV Marcellus but I'm glad I came across your TH-cam channel. More blessings to you!

  • @mmiller7615
    @mmiller7615 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Acho is Black, yes. But he is ethnically Nigerian. I am Black, yes. But, I am ethnically Black American. It is very simple but nuanced. A similar parallel can be drawn between Ethnic Europeans. Italians are White. Germans are White. But, they are two different ethnic groups.
    Now that I have gotten the Political Correct stuff out of the way. As the old saying goes, "All skin folk ain't kinfolk." Acho is not qualified to speak on the affairs, thoughts, generational trauma, etc., of Black Americans. Period.

    • @tryhardsweat5224
      @tryhardsweat5224 ปีที่แล้ว

      But I don't think Germans consider themselves white .... America is the only place that labels people by their skin color

    • @mmiller7615
      @mmiller7615 ปีที่แล้ว

      White is not soley based on skin color. It typically applies to any non-Black person of European descent. However, many Hispanics consider themselves White despite some of them being melinated people.

    • @caesard.8711
      @caesard.8711 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Thank you, I think it's time to start calling people like him out when they do.

    • @K.C.C.L
      @K.C.C.L ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Africans blacks still suffer from discrimination though. Although I agree their are certain things he wouldnt have depth to discuss. But he basically said on the show he was speaking as a nigerian american. About things hes heard being both circles. I think alot of yall didnt watch the show,and thats a problem😁. You cant be mad if you see him make the disclaimer in the show

    • @caesard.8711
      @caesard.8711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@K.C.C.L it's not just him it's other foreign Black's as well. Politicians and entertainers are notorious for doing the same thing.

  • @davidammonds2011
    @davidammonds2011 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Acho knows what he’s doing - he has a goal he’s trying to obtain by leveraging being black to push a book and his brand to white people- like MW said call the book uncomfortable conversations with a Nigerian …

  • @skinnwalker4515
    @skinnwalker4515 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    It is not about skin color, it is about the CULTURE. Prince Akeem Joffer and Darryl Jenks in the original "Coming to America" are both black, but a whole world apart culturally.

    • @aidanwatson910
      @aidanwatson910 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's about skin color to black people.

    • @elreydeoro2310
      @elreydeoro2310 ปีที่แล้ว

      Actually White people started the color thing and have ran with it for four hundreds.

    • @aidanwatson910
      @aidanwatson910 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@elreydeoro2310 factually incorrect, blacks been selling each other out for a bag for the past "foh hunnitz"

    • @brotherhtl4860
      @brotherhtl4860 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly

    • @stonedecatur6602
      @stonedecatur6602 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@aidanwatson910 and everyone else too. You even see it in the movies of foreign countries. For example, if you are watching a movie from Colombia and there is a Black guy, they make it clear that that guy is Black. If a Nigerian American go out and kill 3 people then he is just black but if he invented something then he is Nigerian. If the guy is half black and does something evil, then he is Black, he does something good then they repeat that he is mixed

  • @anthonyhunter6882
    @anthonyhunter6882 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I’m multi-ethnic and grew up in the inner city, but as an Appalachian Catholic. I appreciate where you’re coming from because the notion of us all being monolithic and not individuals is irritating

    • @odisauttonberry8266
      @odisauttonberry8266 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I agree with that no group is a monolith. If they do have group think it becomes hive mind.

    • @Bananasinpajams
      @Bananasinpajams ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The reason other groups are ahead of blacks is due to not being one or a monolith
      This is the reason we don't have power in the country, we can't come together because we are so divided
      And as the saying goes, together we stand.........

    • @mikejones-wn1sw
      @mikejones-wn1sw ปีที่แล้ว

      @Vincent Israel
      Must sucks you come from a family who were you were divided and your father had no power. Obviously you are some kind of immigrant, otherwise you would know Van was correct. That goofy looking heathen nigerian immigrant should never fix his mouth to speak on our people. He is a Hamite and a enemy. You sound like an idiot. Stand together with our enemies?

  • @warriorjennings5115
    @warriorjennings5115 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I'm glad this happened with Acho.....ONLY because it brought more light to your channel. You deserve the shine big dawg. You be impacting people....kids you've never even met bro. Keep it up 💪🏾💪🏾

  • @fledgendbeats4581
    @fledgendbeats4581 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Your absolutely right though I always look at acho as an African tryna hijack and use as issues as springboard for attention.

  • @grandmasterstudent8786
    @grandmasterstudent8786 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    My spidey senses about Acho not being the “same Black” is when Wiley quoted New Jack City or Boyz N the Hood. One of our classics but Acho didn’t see the movie and had no idea what he was talking about. Genuinely, I was like wth. Afterwards, I would see him doing all kinds of interviews with all kinds of people about race then you put it together, what does a 30 year old African immigrant that grew up in a Texas suburb know about police brutality and race relations? He never saw New Jack City which says a lot. Someone put him a space to be on huge outlets speaking to cops and Oprah about the Black condition in America but he doesn’t know whose Nino Brown. His ambition is way higher than his experiences and that’s how he was able to weasel that show from under Wiley.

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes ปีที่แล้ว

      They always been used to undercut indigenous black americans.They raised in the suburbs and used as tokens or when they are around blacks they don't seriously connect with us outside of sports they damn near act scared when they just as crazy as us if not more.I'm glad they getting exposed for undermining us but still having nerve to take financial n political positions we created and pushed for like they're really united with us

    • @HectorConCarne23
      @HectorConCarne23 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Wasn’t echo born Texas

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HectorConCarne23 foreign background blacks that are born or raised in America still have an outsider mentality far as their beliefs n household upbringing most times so it means nothing being born or raised as a baby here if they never interacted or were raised around american black folks but even with that they'll still get the token treatment and try to blend in to not standout as much

    • @BijinMCMXC
      @BijinMCMXC ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Lmao I agree about Acho but I would fail your lil black folk litmus test too because I never really sat down and watched New Jack City or Boyz N the Hood. If it’s not “sit yo 5 dolla ass down before I make change” I’m not gonna know lol you gotta quote stuff like Friday, Coming to America and Life to me 😂

    • @mxhughes
      @mxhughes ปีที่แล้ว

      @@BijinMCMXC it isn't about knowing those types of references fact of the matter is we've embraced africans n carribeans since the beginning and there's no reason why they haven't linked with us to help strengthen our numbers to help survive n strive better in society like other groups do that point can't be refuted

  • @cavaleermountaineer3839
    @cavaleermountaineer3839 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Acho is a first generation child of immigrants. That is all. He has been AMERICANIZED thoroughly, especially playing football in Texas. He has ZERO to do with me, ZERO in common with me or my ancestors. He is no more AMERICAN or "black" culturally, than first generation Ravi or Ming Ling. He has benefited MIGHTILY from American generosity, allowing his family to relocate here, just like the many millions more immigrants who have benefited.
    My perspective is the perspective of an AMERICAN. Skin pigment cells have ZERO points in common with ANYTHING but your imagination.

    • @benadek6703
      @benadek6703 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you only knew what acho had to go through to get here through his parents

    • @HD00957
      @HD00957 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@benadek6703 lmao... nothing

  • @k2kfitchannel944
    @k2kfitchannel944 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    They were not coming at him hard. When I watch the whole video, Rachel and Van came to him with the truth. Tone aside...They presented him with his own words.

    • @jasonh.2439
      @jasonh.2439 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A little TOO uncomfortable for Acho for though. lol

  • @AM.10
    @AM.10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’m from Africa myself and it always shocks when black immigrants think they have a right to speak for African Americans lol

  • @jywist
    @jywist ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There’s a difference between the definition of a Black American & African American. These two definitions has always been intentionally confusing in America. Black American is a descendant of and emancipated into 466 years of Slavery and Jim Crow. African American is a person born in America from immigrant parents. Acho, an African American, has no business inserting himself in issues pertaining to Black Americans. His “Can We All Get Along” method is what white supremacy prefers to skate around real issues of racial accountability. Acho has no understanding how the system of white supremacy works & his offensive hubris misleads him to think that his privilege can bridge the divide of racial discourse that those before him like MLK tried & he was assassinated by white supremacy; that Malcolm X tried & he was assassinated by white supremacy; that Medgar Evers tried & he was assassinated by white supremacy; that Wharlest Jackson Sr. tried and he was assassinated by white supremacy. Had it not been for the resistance & blood shed on this soil by Black Americans, immigrants like Acho’s parents would not have been able to migrate from Nigeria to America & enjoy the freedoms they don’t experience in their own country!! A good number of Africans who come to America w/a pre-disposition of hatred & disrespect towards Black Americans are indoctrinated by white missionaries & colonizers. Africans are white supremacy’s performance monkey. Right now, Africa is so pride-less & weak spirited that China has re-colonized them once again. Alarmingly, Africans believe their pride & confidence is what Black Americans don’t have in America but could’ve had if they never left Africa. My question to Africans is, where’s your confidence in combating the multitude of treacherous political regimes & dictators whose robbed their respective countries? Why aren’t you fighting against poverty, genocide & rape of African women & girls living in armed conflict African countries? Africans should use their pride & confidence, go back to Africa & fight emerging & reemerging diseases like Ebola and similar hemorrhagic fevers that constitute nearly 70% of Africa’s outbreaks. The remainder include, among others, monkeypox, dengue fever, anthrax, zoonotic diseases like Rift Valley Fever, Yellow Fever, Crimean-Congo Fever; water-bone diseases like cholera; HIV, tuberculosis, and drug-resistant infections. Africans who migrate to America with a rutterless & indignant attitude towards Black Americans are simply in awe of the resiliency and fight it took to fight for Civil Rights. Black Americans continue to fight, they don’t stop and are not afraid. On this earth there is no other people like Black Americans and we’ve inspired great nations and leaders globally. I’d suggest to all Africans who benefit from the blood shed on this American soil and to arrogant African Americans like Acho particularly - go back to your continent and bridge the many divides you all have in your respective countries. Black Americans don’t need you. Full disclosure- I’m an African American whose parents migrated to the U.S. from the Caribbean pre-civil rights.

  • @tjofwakanda8027
    @tjofwakanda8027 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I hate that marcellus not on TV no more, but I like he can be free on his own shit.

  • @KevinHernandez-qz8sb
    @KevinHernandez-qz8sb ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Acho creating his whole brand hijacking black causes. Crazy!

  • @Youdatguy
    @Youdatguy ปีที่แล้ว +12

    It doesn’t matter what you vote if you’re not registered as that particular party. I stay Independent. Two wings attached to the same bird. Great show!!

  • @MrStevenvb12
    @MrStevenvb12 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Can’t wait to hear your take about those 5 black cops from Memphis.

    • @Anthonycheesman33
      @Anthonycheesman33 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hopefully he won’t be on some dumb shit .it’s 50 50 he will defend the cops .

    • @dionellwalker9762
      @dionellwalker9762 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No ,how about those 6 white sherifs in Rainkin Mississippi called the "Goon Squad " , Devils wouldn't you agree

  • @thechocolatedelegate9830
    @thechocolatedelegate9830 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Acho separated Black people from Nigerians in that conversation. Nigerians always do it (Yvonne Orji had a whole HBO special doing it).
    They always play both sides of the fence when it's beneficial. His show should've been called "Uncomfortable Conversations with a Nigerian Man". Because ultimately that's what he identifies as.

  • @kelvinhopkins3000
    @kelvinhopkins3000 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    From another Brother from the CPT, I would like to say, you expressed and articulated an outstanding report. Thank you.

  • @E_Static
    @E_Static ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Van did what needed to be done. Ocho put himself in the postion of the "white man whisperer". Ocho isn't qualified to speak on behalf of the entire diaspora.

  • @joebrandon1720
    @joebrandon1720 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "I'm so old I been called Negro" Lmao.
    Fox chose the wrong brother.

  • @beyondthefamecelebritystories
    @beyondthefamecelebritystories ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Marcellus dropping gems

  • @JFBangaTV
    @JFBangaTV ปีที่แล้ว +2

    He named it uncomfortable conversations with a "Black" man because it sells better than Nigerian man. It's about money, views, and clout to him. Not who he really is.

  • @themorrow3547
    @themorrow3547 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Keep these videos comin man, love your takes!

  • @macattack144
    @macattack144 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    it's bizarre how people are still obsessed with skin color. the cultural differences are what people find interesting - maybe that's just me

  • @scgpublishing4999
    @scgpublishing4999 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Continue to maintain your energy Wiley! 💯

  • @semha6348
    @semha6348 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Once again, another thing that you don't get. When people where questioning Tiger Woods, it wasn't about to diminish his other side of ethnicity.
    It was more like, in the US, people are seen as white or non-white. Tiger Woods is seen by mostly white people as black. Don't matter, how many white DNA, or Asian DNA he has. He looks like a black person from the outside. And also for the Asians he would be considered as black, and not one of their own, because they also prefer the light Asians, and not the brown or darker looking Asians.
    And when he was younger, and all the white people didn't want him in the golf club. What do you think, why they didn't want him there? Could they see that he was part white? No. Do they questioned, if he is part Asian? No. What they saw was just a black looking child/ a person who is not white, and they didn't want him in their "only white golf clubs".
    And Tiger Woods himself was talking about this, that they saw him as a black person.
    So, when he got famous, and he started with the "I'm cacablasian", it wasn't about to dismiss his other ethnicities. It was more like "Common Tiger, you know, if you were not Tiger Woods (famous and rich), the police and other people would see and treat you like a black person".
    Well, later, when he had the cheating scandal, they reminded him quickly what they think about him. And by them, I mean the white society, and white media. They destroyed him in the media, while his white wife, who almost k!lled him, was seen as the "victim".

  • @tylergrant82
    @tylergrant82 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    black is a rainbow of many cultures + backgrounds that i wish everyone would acknowledge ..

  • @jamaal1982ch
    @jamaal1982ch ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The only thing wrong with your take is if he's Nigerian American why is he speaking on African American issues when he doesn't have the background 🤔

    • @giveituptv2073
      @giveituptv2073 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's what he's saying, he's unqualified because he's different

    • @brandon_jo_el
      @brandon_jo_el ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They have to talk about our issues. Otherwise, no one would pay them attention.

  • @beeojeiks6516
    @beeojeiks6516 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I get our blackness is different but our ancestors are the same. It irritates me why some African Americans dislike U.S. Nigerian Americans. Marcellus, you are right, we don’t think like you all because our experiences are different. However just because are we different doesn’t mean Acho’s points are not relevant. Celebrate him and collaborate with him on presenting your view instead of attacking him(not you Marcellus) the other guy and all those attacking him in this comment’s section. We need to be united and not divided, it gives our opponents a leg up over us. I will forever be grateful for all the struggles the African Americans forefathers endured and fought for so we Africans can have a chance. I love us USA forever❤

  • @twanwillz7102
    @twanwillz7102 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I never let politics influence my friendships.

    • @diegomagellan
      @diegomagellan ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Or religion

    • @pizzaloverduh
      @pizzaloverduh ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's a luxury. Now imagine if someone's "politics" involved denying your right to exist.

  • @semha6348
    @semha6348 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your French-Italian part makes also no sense. Because both (France and Italian are white countries). So, when you ask them, if they are white, they will tell you that they are white. But if the question would be "are you from this nationality/ethnicity?", then they will tell you from which ethnicity they are. And if they are mixed, then they tell you both ethnicities, or more.

  • @Hballa34
    @Hballa34 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hes hella off . No black Americans get to opt out of the black experience just cuz they mama foreign

  • @ryanstevens569
    @ryanstevens569 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Foundational Black Americans, American Decedents of Slaves, Black Americans, Native Black Americans whatever you want to call us, we 50 million strong and no longer taking disrespect from immigrants or other cultures. We the culture. Love, peace and respect.
    J Prince quote “Don’t ever put me in a position where I have to defend myself”

  • @djdoobie42
    @djdoobie42 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I appreciate Marcellus’ take on the one drop rule. Being mixed myself, the cultural push to identify as one or the other is really dissonant with my own perception of my identity

  • @OVOChatgpt
    @OVOChatgpt ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Wow Marcellus I didn’t not expect such an eloquent and subtle but highly articulated analysis. You spoke to a lot of things American Black men deal with. Bless you 💪🏽 you’ve got a fan in me

  • @bartsworld5460
    @bartsworld5460 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s funny to me when Nigerians pretend to not understand. Nigerians speak English because they were colonized. It’s all a show and I ain’t buying tickets. It’s sad to me.

    • @blackcommunion3820
      @blackcommunion3820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Exactly. It’s weird how black Americans know that it’s disrespectful to talk about or even discuss what is going on in their countries or lands but they feel completely free to do so with us and see nothing wrong with it even if it’s not in black Americans best interest. No black American would dare go to their countries doing some of the stuff I see them doing to black people in America. We would be chased of their countries by spear.

  • @MuhWasFalsePrpht
    @MuhWasFalsePrpht ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Im Black and Italian! Thank You 🙏🏽 finally someone understanding where I come from

    • @andrewbaileyMKU
      @andrewbaileyMKU ปีที่แล้ว

      You're still African. That's like saying the white people in America are not from European smh

  • @mrnichols7592
    @mrnichols7592 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Let The Church Say Amen. I agree 💯

  • @cjaxxxreactz
    @cjaxxxreactz ปีที่แล้ว +12

    All skin folks ain't kinfolks...and there's nothing wrong with that.

    • @kingghx5t74
      @kingghx5t74 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Then you part of the problem. Imagine if every part of your body wanted to do it’s own thing

    • @cjaxxxreactz
      @cjaxxxreactz ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kingghx5t74 bad analogy seeing as no one's experience is like the American Blacks. Wake the hell up, because our real problem starts with the destruction on OUR nuclear family, nothing else can be resolved until that is fixed first sir.

    • @mikejones-wn1sw
      @mikejones-wn1sw ปีที่แล้ว

      @King Ghx5t get that janky pan african sht up the block. We are not the same people as africans. We have two completely different minds, bodies and spirits

  • @FaceFamous
    @FaceFamous ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Marcellus i swear you look like Morris Chestnut ( the football player) 🤣

  • @RavenRichy
    @RavenRichy ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Go to Africa bro. It really opened my eyes to some of the things we were told as young black men. A lot of it’s not true. We were taught that they hated us and to not go but tbh that was the opposite of my experience 🙏🏾

  • @kelechiaguocha6125
    @kelechiaguocha6125 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I give Acho credit for speaking BUT at times it lacks depth and nuance which is sorely lacking.
    Van also lacks the depth to understand the Continental African experience, unless either have actually lived at home in The Continent for a period of time.
    Acho’s Igbo-an ancient tribe, language, culture, religion, traditions, literature, region, state, village, hamlet, nuclear + immediate family and I hope he speaks more to that because it would shed light on the diversity of the Diaspora.
    There’s no right or wrong answer, just realities.

  • @Djelert
    @Djelert ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's crazy is that you can never you can never catch black Americans trying to tell other black people what their experience is in other countries

  • @TheSweetswed
    @TheSweetswed ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some younger black guys acting like coming up in the late 90s n 00s etc is like the 50's or 60s is a JOKE imo. Some people want to be a victim so bad its brutal. If you were a STAR Athlete black male in the late 90s you were treated like a god so ya thats some bs

  • @DariusJones05
    @DariusJones05 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I also hate when people say African American 😂 like dude I’m just American. Hell I’ll even take black American

  • @ItsSonya94
    @ItsSonya94 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ocho and his parents still have a colonized mindset though (brainwashed) into thinking that if you come to America and work hard and be educated you'll have this wonderful life and white people will LOVE you. Black Americans know that's not true over here. That's why immigrant Africans view black Americans as lazy because we don't work hard and are uneducated. They don't know and don't understand what black Americans have been through and continue to go through. So Van was right, Ocho shouldn't be speaking on the black American experience knowing he can't fully relate to OUR experience.

    • @joejoezuniga231
      @joejoezuniga231 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Do Mexicans think this. Like this immigrant thought. Bcuz of the ordeal they go thru in the country they come from. Education ain't free. The journey alone to give your kids a free education is worth it alone. Ochos parents should be comended for the job. Also not everyone journey us the same. Agreed. But can't give that to the next generation.

    • @paulmillerjr.2346
      @paulmillerjr.2346 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No cap

    • @therealheisenberg6182
      @therealheisenberg6182 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Acho and his peeps probably cried when Queen Elizabeth died.😕

    • @mikejones-wn1sw
      @mikejones-wn1sw ปีที่แล้ว

      @Its Sonya you know this fool is probably one of the african babies that were adopted by white people. These immigrants be corny azz hell

  • @lifecoachingbymel
    @lifecoachingbymel ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Couldn't agree with you more brother!

  • @juskeaton
    @juskeaton ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That’s that Columbia talking! He articulated it so well I’m gonna go watch the interview.

    • @ovie10
      @ovie10 ปีที่แล้ว

      “That’s the Columbia talking” - yall love to base everything off validation via white institutions lmao

  • @rolfmetzger4252
    @rolfmetzger4252 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brav. Loved it when you were playing for my team. Dig what you are putting down now. Keep up the good work. Many, many of us appreciate your honesty.

  • @tryhardsweat5224
    @tryhardsweat5224 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was a great conversation!!!!! Many people don't see/understand this

  • @jaysonnichols3522
    @jaysonnichols3522 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great interview I love it

  • @lumedeon8471
    @lumedeon8471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Acho is full of BS. If he grew up in Nigeria, that would be one thing. Born and raised in America, at his age, ALL he knows is American culture. I’ll bet he doesn’t speak his parents native tongue. He MIGHT eat Nigerian food. But heck, don’t we eat Italian & Chinese? We’re born & raised in the US so we don’t know those cultures despite eating those foods.

  • @Abaines2222gaming
    @Abaines2222gaming ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Amazing segment Marcellus! To be honest I came hear for the drama but love your view on the details of the different categories of black people. There’s definitely a difference between a African American & a Black personality who NEVER been to Africa non has anyone in their family that’s been to Africa! This is something we need to talk about more! I love your take and just subscribed to your channel! Keep the content coming!

  • @the_shadow_realm5110
    @the_shadow_realm5110 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    13:19 Hahahahah that swig of drink and the "I loved it" HAHHAHAHAH

  • @allendove2922
    @allendove2922 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Damn, I don't think we understand race and ethnicity. Black/Negro is a race. African Americans, Jamaicans, and Nigerians are ethnicities of Black. If you're first generation whatever ethnicity Black in America, you have a different history from someone like me. Slavery and Jim Crow make us who we are. Black Panthers ain't got nothing to do with Africans. Black Panthers is from our ethnicity of Black.

    • @mikejones-wn1sw
      @mikejones-wn1sw ปีที่แล้ว

      True, but we are called negroes because we have negro skulls, africans do not have negro skulls. They share the same skull as the Caucasian. It is much deeper than a color called black.

  • @librasRgreat
    @librasRgreat 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This man got hella knowledge 🧐

  • @championgreen613
    @championgreen613 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    (AZ: I'm Back), is Wiley's theme song

  • @tysonrodriguez9667
    @tysonrodriguez9667 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don't like Acho, sorry Cel

  • @paulgarcia621
    @paulgarcia621 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good man Wiley nothing comes from hating some one.

  • @brotherhtl4860
    @brotherhtl4860 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I never acknowledged being called African American. Acho is African… his culture is nothing like ours Marcellus. Truthfully, he has no business speaking on behalf of black men…. That should be someone like you. I think of Marcus Garvey… I truly believe it was his culture (Jamaica) was the reason many didn’t take him seriously. Du Bois and Washington didn’t care for him bc he’s not us. You can’t be a king in our world and you’re not from it.
    Blessings

  • @dayaaron87
    @dayaaron87 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Well said again wise sir

  • @richardguillaume81
    @richardguillaume81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think the difference was that when you said Kap wasn't "black black". It came off as because he's mixed, he shouldn't be riding for black people as hard as he was. For Acho. It's obvious he's a black man. But culturally he may not be as much when it comes to America.

  • @thaW7
    @thaW7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    U 100% correct

  • @kentuckyjones7242
    @kentuckyjones7242 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ive NEVER heard any white ppl .. ANYWHERE.. talk about someone not being white enough. ill never understand the Black on Black racism. my GF is Black.. and she told it was bad.. but holy shit. i never could have imagined

  • @furiousrobinson
    @furiousrobinson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lmao 🤣 “People want me to hate Acho” is hilarious

  • @thehouseofcm
    @thehouseofcm ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You are a very mentally strong man.

  • @timothysteele1963
    @timothysteele1963 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a 72 year old AA male who lived in Africa in the 70s and 80s. I here to tell you, that the cultures are not that different, we are just not at the same place in time. Africans are a lot like we were in the 50s and maybe early 60s. The Africans are black people with a solid family structure and they stress education as the great equalizer. African - Americans for the most don't have that in the culture today but in the 50s and 60s we had it. In my last years teaching math in Houston Tx, I was bless to be in school with kids from all over the world. The Asians and the Africans would always have their pictures on my wall for Top Ten honors. The Nigerians were out performing the Asians. If I call an African parent about their child miss behaving or not doing their work in class, both parents may come to the school and you will only have to do it once. The African fathers reminds me my father, no nonsense. The only reason we were able to accomplish so much in civil rights in 1960s was due to our strong family structure from the 50s. We don't have that now. Africans see the opportunities here in this country and they don't want their children to side tracked. They don't hate African Americans, they just don't their kids copying some of the behaviors of your kids. The same way we use to view White people who were not accomplishing anything in the 50s. We were polite to them but we were taught that we had to better than them

  • @cdaway2024
    @cdaway2024 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    ELON MUSK IS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN MAN. JESSE JACKSON PROMOTED THE TERM "AFRICAN AMERICAN." JUST SOME FACTS TO HELP PUT THESE THINGS IN PROPER PERSPECTIVE. 😏☝🏾⚖️💯🇺🇲

  • @kelthe8thman661
    @kelthe8thman661 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I hate when immigrants come over here, have some measure success, stick their chest out and start pointing fingers and black Amercians whose familes faught in every war, fought for civil rights for All Americans. FBA blood spilled on this land to build this country. Show respect !

  • @fabrizioschevchenko7152
    @fabrizioschevchenko7152 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Dat Dude is so REAL......

  • @cellmate1
    @cellmate1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I want to hear about you and Whitlock 😂😂😂

  • @darklibra7925
    @darklibra7925 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of people confuse Blackness with having melanin. black Americans are the only melanated people that was reclassified (on paper) as black and we made it popular, now everybody else wants to latch onto it and try to replace us. There's no such thing as a black person, Blacklist is more of a cultural thing within the black American community

  • @sonnyyang5167
    @sonnyyang5167 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love the fact that MW said he didn’t watch the entire podcast haha I’m watching this video to get the cliff notes version, with MW’s commentary.

  • @marvingibson3229
    @marvingibson3229 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir, I also don't fall into the African American category. My family's from East Texas. I've never been to Africa or do I have a desire to go. I'm an American and proud of it!!!

  • @bayzeus18
    @bayzeus18 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    M Dub, you one of those ones. Love the podcast bru.. keep giving it to em

  • @hankgoresich6836
    @hankgoresich6836 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love This Man.

  • @ramessessportscast5178
    @ramessessportscast5178 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Those Blood test are inaccurate, you are not Nigeria

  • @Kjamal_29
    @Kjamal_29 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is so much better than tv sports talk

  • @whitneydakinola
    @whitneydakinola ปีที่แล้ว

    Africa is beautiful and eye opening. 😊

  • @gorjanninkovski935
    @gorjanninkovski935 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Marcellus, as a white dude I respect and hear what you are saying here. You always talk the real!

  • @sandrajacobs3766
    @sandrajacobs3766 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Acho does have trauma . We have to remember Nigeria was colonized by the British. So his thinking comes from his colonizer’s.

  • @dwayne601
    @dwayne601 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like Marcellus's breakdowns 😅

  • @kjwworldwide
    @kjwworldwide ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm Carribbean American. When I was younger and I heard black people talk about problems with race, I must admit I had no clue what they were talking about because it was foreign to me. It took decades for me to understand but still not fully because I have never dealt with racism once. I've dealt with being stereotyped by every culture though.

    • @marcelluswileydatdude
      @marcelluswileydatdude  ปีที่แล้ว

      I feel ya. Never dealt with racism either. Just stereotyped

    • @dommy7077
      @dommy7077 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm fully Caribbean (Bahamas) and I'm in the same position. I've only experience real racism in my country, once in my life . But I'm married to a Black American so I'm to understand where she's coming from. It really is a learning process.

    • @vincente4570
      @vincente4570 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really 🤨

  • @ignaciofuentes2642
    @ignaciofuentes2642 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Acho...talk about Nigeria. Stay out of black folks business. Nigeria got plenty of problems you could be talking about.

  • @keeponballin6094
    @keeponballin6094 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nigeri was colonized til 1966
    And is struggling to hold only
    their 7th democratic election
    soon
    God bless them
    But what Xtra knowledge
    about free Blackness does
    Acho keep referring to???

  • @gastone2train320
    @gastone2train320 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Van is a fence straddler and stand 2 feet down on nothing controversial

  • @julestroutman2538
    @julestroutman2538 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one drop rule was to use it as a disadvantage for voting, and the control of resources against BPPL

  • @MachinesofMayhem
    @MachinesofMayhem ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I call Acho MC Gusto. I feel he got rich faking the struggle so many have

  • @03Man11
    @03Man11 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My friend’s husband is Nigerian. He does not view race relations in America the way African Americans do.

    • @mikejones-wn1sw
      @mikejones-wn1sw ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That is because he is part of the problem

    • @03Man11
      @03Man11 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikejones-wn1sw because he views race differently?

  • @antwainpatrick6669
    @antwainpatrick6669 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Acho needs to stay away from black American issues! Its like Americans who grew up in Africa talking about their societal issues. FOH Acho!

  • @ramessessportscast5178
    @ramessessportscast5178 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN plain and simple

  • @brainsmasher6617
    @brainsmasher6617 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I prefer black; but I am ok with Negro or Afro American; but I always detested the term African American from the very first time I heard it.

    • @Eastsidebarron
      @Eastsidebarron ปีที่แล้ว +1

      What nation represents “black” how are you comfortable calling yourself a verb?

    • @realamerican8069
      @realamerican8069 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s a fairly new term.. it was coined by your boy rev Jesse Jackson in the 80’s

    • @Eastsidebarron
      @Eastsidebarron ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realamerican8069 😂 I rest my case

    • @brainsmasher6617
      @brainsmasher6617 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@realamerican8069 I know.

    • @brainsmasher6617
      @brainsmasher6617 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Eastsidebarron The same way Caucasians are comfortable calling themselves white. Everyone except contrarians know exactly what is meant when those terms are used.

  • @goatstature8263
    @goatstature8263 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thats how crazy this shit has gotten now black people are racist towards there own black brothers and sisters lol Acho is black but he's not black like me smh thats the issue right there in plain site hate on your own people smfh