Whew! You're not wrong about elven Kindgoms. The stereotypical has them in elegant (if often impossibly thin) towers deep in a temperate forest. However, in Eberron 1/2 of the common elves are warrior nomads, riding loyal warhorses and decapitating enemies with their double bladed scimitars, while the other 1/2 live on a small jungle sub-continent, in ancient stone cities that would not look out of place in mexico! There they worship their ancestors who are mumified elves called Deathless, that may juat live up to that name!
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yup, silly dusty Skeletons, always accumulating dust and cobwebs. Maybe The Witchlord should get in touch with Jeffery Lebowski, I hear he's got a nice set of rugs.
It was the second (and in my opinion better) expansion for the D&D Fantasy Adventure Board Game. Pretty hard to find these days, but a really lovely product.
Thanks. I keep telling myself if I could squeeze that 25th hour out of each day I would go back to writing novels... Finally do the horror anthology that's been bubbling in the back of my head for the last couple of years... One thing at a time, though.
I would accept the werewolf argument only if the wolf minis were more interesting than a druid with actual stuff you can attach to it!:D Great comparison, man!
Thanks. Unfortunately, the D&D game only ever had two expansions before it was discontinued, so there's nothing left to compare. But there will be another D&D playthrough on the channel (hopefully relatively soon).
There is some really good art here on the base game box! Doesn’t have that generic upper 2000s art style that looks cheap. The background area where the ghost is has a very Heroquest feel to it. Thanks for sharing this!
It has some great artwork, including some pieces recycled from earlier D&D products. It's a very attractive game. I don't think it can match HeroQuest in that department, but it has its own aesthetic that is very appealing.
Great points all around. I am really hoping that Rise of the Dread Moon has some large board overlay tiles to make the quests feel noticeably different.
I think Frozen Horror did a decent job with overlays, while Mage of the Mirror dropped the ball a little bit in that regard. There's definitely plenty of scope for overlays that change the shape and layout of the board while still keeping that classic HeroQuest feel.
I always felt Against the Ogre Horde never got enough credit for its board overlays - outdoors section, bridge over the chasm, magic circle & pit of chaos - there were another couple of rooms too but they had no special rules. But then you also got the Stone Doors & Pits of Darkness, which were both nice additions. Agreed that Frozen Horror did a lot with its all its "smaller than room size" overlays (Icy Streams, fog / mist, Icy or slippy floor, frozen monsters etc) and sets the standard for future packs now. I would probably rank Kelkars Keep above Mage in the Mirror (Magical Darkness, the stairway tiles, the dwarven forge, map pieces, tunnel entrances and boulder trap) - even if the stairs had no rules attached it did add an different feel to the Quest that used them. But these bigger packs need to deliver more with the cardboard overlays. Return of the Witch Lord had the rotating room, the Dark Mist & the Graves - always felt disappointed by the Throne Room though, the box art had built up expectations, and it pulls the whole expansion down for me (when judging by use of new tiles). Just not on the same level as what Kellars Keep delivered with the same amount of card available. Mage in the Mirror has cardboard pieces that probably should be plastic models now (werewolf tokens, the prospector, the Princess & the Mirrors / possibly the Sky Orb) and while the central room is impressive looking it accounts for so much of the available card I don't think it was worth it - so all you really get is a couple of traps and things I think should be in plastic - worst of the lot for me - even the two smaller expansions give you more interesting pieces to play with. I'd really like some outdoor / forest type area's in Rise of the Dread Moon - if it's still tied to the Elven Realm (which it seems to be from what we know so far) a haunted forest with an overgrown temple like the Forbidden Forest included would be great (but the overgrown temple would be achieved with grasping type vine tunnels/traps similar to the Frozen Horrors Icy overlays - plus a few larger "outdoors" area's to really give the feeling of the "dungeon" being overgrown forest ruins).
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Consistently covering what you love. Classic fantasy, the best of GW, heroquest, warhammer quest, painting, playing, chatting, whatever. No flavor of the month or click bait here.
I mean, if you name your royal kid 'Sinestra', you can't be completely surprised when she takes up dark magic and plotting.
Evil Lyn and Maleficent look on with shocked expressions.
Whew! You're not wrong about elven Kindgoms. The stereotypical has them in elegant (if often impossibly thin) towers deep in a temperate forest.
However, in Eberron 1/2 of the common elves are warrior nomads, riding loyal warhorses and decapitating enemies with their double bladed scimitars, while the other 1/2 live on a small jungle sub-continent, in ancient stone cities that would not look out of place in mexico! There they worship their ancestors who are mumified elves called Deathless, that may juat live up to that name!
And in HeroQuest they hang out in places suspiciously similar to the Witch Lord's pad.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring except the witchlord didn't lay down a comfy looking rug... It really ties the room together.
He was getting to it. He hadn't been up long, bless him. He still had so much dusting to do.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring yup, silly dusty Skeletons, always accumulating dust and cobwebs.
Maybe The Witchlord should get in touch with Jeffery Lebowski, I hear he's got a nice set of rugs.
First time I've heard of "Forbidden Forest" looks great!
It was the second (and in my opinion better) expansion for the D&D Fantasy Adventure Board Game. Pretty hard to find these days, but a really lovely product.
Great stuff. Great fun. Lol. Just what I needed today. You are a great writer and story teller. Cheers.
Thanks. I keep telling myself if I could squeeze that 25th hour out of each day I would go back to writing novels... Finally do the horror anthology that's been bubbling in the back of my head for the last couple of years... One thing at a time, though.
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring lol. Yep. Not sure 25 hrs is enough.
I would accept the werewolf argument only if the wolf minis were more interesting than a druid with actual stuff you can attach to it!:D Great comparison, man!
Ha. The dress up Ken Druid is fun.
Love this series of comparisons, as I wasn’t super familiar with that old D&D game being in the states! Keep ‘em coming! :)
Thanks. Unfortunately, the D&D game only ever had two expansions before it was discontinued, so there's nothing left to compare. But there will be another D&D playthrough on the channel (hopefully relatively soon).
There is some really good art here on the base game box! Doesn’t have that generic upper 2000s art style that looks cheap. The background area where the ghost is has a very Heroquest feel to it. Thanks for sharing this!
It has some great artwork, including some pieces recycled from earlier D&D products. It's a very attractive game. I don't think it can match HeroQuest in that department, but it has its own aesthetic that is very appealing.
Great points all around. I am really hoping that Rise of the Dread Moon has some large board overlay tiles to make the quests feel noticeably different.
I think Frozen Horror did a decent job with overlays, while Mage of the Mirror dropped the ball a little bit in that regard. There's definitely plenty of scope for overlays that change the shape and layout of the board while still keeping that classic HeroQuest feel.
I always felt Against the Ogre Horde never got enough credit for its board overlays - outdoors section, bridge over the chasm, magic circle & pit of chaos - there were another couple of rooms too but they had no special rules. But then you also got the Stone Doors & Pits of Darkness, which were both nice additions.
Agreed that Frozen Horror did a lot with its all its "smaller than room size" overlays (Icy Streams, fog / mist, Icy or slippy floor, frozen monsters etc) and sets the standard for future packs now.
I would probably rank Kelkars Keep above Mage in the Mirror (Magical Darkness, the stairway tiles, the dwarven forge, map pieces, tunnel entrances and boulder trap) - even if the stairs had no rules attached it did add an different feel to the Quest that used them. But these bigger packs need to deliver more with the cardboard overlays.
Return of the Witch Lord had the rotating room, the Dark Mist & the Graves - always felt disappointed by the Throne Room though, the box art had built up expectations, and it pulls the whole expansion down for me (when judging by use of new tiles). Just not on the same level as what Kellars Keep delivered with the same amount of card available.
Mage in the Mirror has cardboard pieces that probably should be plastic models now (werewolf tokens, the prospector, the Princess & the Mirrors / possibly the Sky Orb) and while the central room is impressive looking it accounts for so much of the available card I don't think it was worth it - so all you really get is a couple of traps and things I think should be in plastic - worst of the lot for me - even the two smaller expansions give you more interesting pieces to play with.
I'd really like some outdoor / forest type area's in Rise of the Dread Moon - if it's still tied to the Elven Realm (which it seems to be from what we know so far) a haunted forest with an overgrown temple like the Forbidden Forest included would be great (but the overgrown temple would be achieved with grasping type vine tunnels/traps similar to the Frozen Horrors Icy overlays - plus a few larger "outdoors" area's to really give the feeling of the "dungeon" being overgrown forest ruins).
I love how consistent this channel is. You are the classic fantasy MASTER!
Hopefully that's consistently good or interesting... average, at least?
(Seriously, thank you for the kind words; I really appreciate it.)
@@AlwaysBoardNeverBoring Consistently covering what you love. Classic fantasy, the best of GW, heroquest, warhammer quest, painting, playing, chatting, whatever. No flavor of the month or click bait here.
@@cheesedanishable Thanks. That's great to hear because that's exactly what I'm trying to do. Just let the hobby I love escape out onto the Internet.
Gosh, I LOVE these D&D games. Would love Hasbro to give them the HeroQuest treatment, companion app and all.
It was a great little game. I doubt they would ever remake it, but I think it would be interesting if they did.