@@insectbite1714 Apple is a traditional corporation, not a B-corp or NPO. They are, by construction, obliged to maximize profit/ShareholderReturns. That's a grey area with lots of latitude; but famously, Craig Newmark of CraigsList was sued by an employee/shareholder after_giving_ employees shares, then deciding to do something charitable with company assets. 😡
That's impossible because our current economy relies heavily on planned obsolescence to keep going, it would collapse almost instantly without it (although eventually this model will collapse anyway due to its unsustainable nature).
Maybe you'll start making your own business making durable items and quality, but maybe you'll not gain too much profit and maybe also risk you to bankruptcy; or option 2: make your sales expensive, but people preferred the cheaper ones; the dilemma is there...
I think it's about time we started valuing durability in products. I always get frustrated about this when I look at online reviews. I want to know how long it will last me, and more often than not there will be many reviews saying that something worked perfectly at first but then stopped functioning. It's messed up that companies do this to make more money.
This is so true , most review just simp the manufacturer ,rather then criticising it ,why would I watch review if just want to know plus points, most review are just ads nowadays
I've noticed another way of forcing you to buy a new phone. Spare parts are so expensive to the point where it doesn't make sense to repair but rather buy a new one. How can a phone screen be more than half the price of the phone itself?!
As of now mate it gets even worse on Iphones hahaha. It wouldn't even let you replace the broken part with a third party spare parts because the phone would detect if the vital parts got swap out and it wouldn't start the system hahaha.
@Clarissa 1986 now you are pretty much stating that Apple is doing a good thing in terms of electronics. Apple is not. Apple is head of planned obsolescence and fighting against 3rd party repairs for their products. Apple sucks! Even if you wanted to replace the battery of your Apple phone 14 or the 13 even, you can't! The phone will not work any more after you've opened it! You have to go to an apple store. Who is the owner after you bought is? With this type of reasoning I don't even think you fully own the piece of hardware! No one should buy any Apple product until they would radically change their way of doing these things!
This video could have used an interview with the Fairphone folks. They are bringing in more easily repairable, modular phones that you can upgrade, instead of always buying a new one. You still create some e-waste with the part you are replacing, but its much more sustainable to throw out just the screen from your phone when it breaks than the whole unit.
They also have a phone recycling service! Pretty cool. The phones are really expensive upfront but if they do last as long as they claim to, it might be worth it.
I remember figuring this out in 2007, when the iPhone came out. I dropped mine on the ground and shattered the glass. All the hype of that thing - the most hi tech thing ever created - and when I picked it up, it had a broken screen. I remember calling Apple and the woman on the other end (carefully) telling a surprised me they couldn't just replace the glass ... I had to buy an entirely new phone.
I was using a galaxy s5 up until about 6 months ago when I upgraded to a refurbished s7 because it wasn't compatible with the apps I needed. Apparently psychological obsolescence doesn't work for me.
This the inevitable nature of Capitalism. Planned Obsolescence makes us consume resources more than what we actually need and makes us creates more waste.
He is creating so much plastic waste, taking control of every aspect of our life. Here in India, millions of shopkeepers are losing livelihood cause of him, how can you justify all that ?
Fairphone and Shift are two companies in Europe working for reparability, replaceability and fair supply chains. It would have been better if this video has a bit about them in the end
@@DWPlanetA unfortunately not. Looking forward to it, when my current phone needs replacement. I have talked to a couple of people who have used Fairphone 2 and they had mixed opinion about it
6:05 Even if you were able to make it run, there's probably a DRM on that phone that detects if you change the battery and will prevent it from working anyway, lol.
I think a right to repair law is important, but the problem as a whole wouldn't exist if we didn't have idiots who just have to buy the latest iThing each year. Get your electronics second hand. Get something like a Nexus 5 where the bootloader is unlocked and you can put whatever OS on it if the android that it ships with gets too obsolete. In some cases, voting with your wallet is not feasible, but for consumer electronics, it very much is. There is almost no functional difference between an Apple product and any other electronic gadget. Some of the UI is a bit different, the look and feel of particular software may vary but that's it. Stop buying Apple and they'll be forced to make their devices easier to tinker with.
People are like sheep to the brands, always wanting the latest shiny thing that's pretty much the same as last years. They are also judged if they don't have the latest tech. I know of a mother who makes around 500€ a month and bought her daughter a 1400€ iphone because her """friends""" made fun of her because of her phone, which was also an iphone from the previous year. This is ridiculous behavior, and everyone is at fault here. I'm sure this happens all around the world, and not just with phones. Computer tech is also starting to be like this. For example AMD released last year a cpu that's excellent called Ryzen 3800XT, and then a few months later came out with the 5xxx series that's SOOO much better than the 3xxx series, and were almost begging people to buy the new ones! But truth be told, 95% of the consumers wouldn't even notice the difference between these cpus. About repairing, i guess it has to do with how handy you are. i have opened computers, tvs, laptops, my iphone and my ipod, ps2 etc etc and they always work after. Of course for people that are not handy it's not feasible, it's much better to take it to a proper repair shop (that's not a scam).
I think that mine is an IPhone 6 or 6s and it suits my needs perfectly. Just enough useful features and functions to meet my simple needs. I would only replace it for a newer model if my current one is broken beyond repair, or my parents pass me down their old one having bought the latest model of IPhone. Of course it doesn’t stop both Vodafone and Apple encouraging me to buy a newer model for no extra money. Basically suggesting that I get a “free” upgrade as part of the contract. Though I’m certain that it came with clauses that make me compensate in some way for it, such as offering it only if we agree to bound to the contract for the next two or three years. As for DIY repairs I’ve only ever done it to my PS4 and modified some of the game files of FO3 to fix a random crashing problem. My PS4 started randomly ejecting the disks inside, even when I was in the middle of playing that game which always ended when the disc was ejected. Wasted quite a few hours of gameplay if I forgot to save very frequently. It pretty much made playing games almost impossible as few had the patience to to put up with disk ejects every twenty to thirty minutes. So I didn’t want to send it away for repairs I discovered that I might be able to repair it myself in just one hour. Ordered the tools I’d need and watched tutorials on TH-cam. So once they arrived I opened up the PS4 and followed the precise instructions, then bent the strip of metal to disable the manual eject button for it could also be done using the software command. I had no warranty as it had expired anyway. But the surgery succeeded and it solved the problem. Well worth losing the eject button for disks and the ability to sell the PS4 on sometime far into the future.
I think planned obsolescence has lot to do with a company coming out with a new model (presumably with more\better features) every year than it has to do with building in breaking points.... It's the new (better) model that makes the consumer feel that he is 'being left behind' and thus generates the motivation to buy again. Look at phones and home theatre systems.
When a Company Intentionally builds in Planned Obsolescence into their Products, then The Consumer should Plan To Totally Abandon that Company's Products and Services. Let's just call it "Planned Consumer Retribution"
There’s no need to make smartphones hard to fix. These things are useful as long as you’ve supported OS. Once support is dropped it’s not too long till your out-of-date apps won’t be able to connect to social media or other internet services making smartphone essentially useless. It is proprietary software and most importantly proprietary interfaces that are root of all evil.
I seem to be almost immune to this new smartphone nonsense. I don’t really like most of the smartphone apps and stuff. I sent and receive calls and text. And surf the internet. I never need to update unless it breaks and I can’t fix it.
Great piece. The battery of my 3 year old MacBook just broke. Only three months after the AppleCare warranty expired. Impossible to fix it myself. Now, of course, I have to pay for it. I know it's stupid, but my next laptop will definitely be an Apple again. Maybe I'm just addicted?
We humans do things that we know to be bad for us all the time. People smoke. People drink alcohol and do other drugs. People don’t exercise as much as they know is good for them and scroll mindlessly through pictures or click through video after video on social media. They even put money towards products that they know have caused suffering in one form or another. Why we do it is a great question. I’d take a guess and say it has to do with the beliefs and behaviours that have been instilled in us through clever marketing, instant gratification and peer pressure (or the environment we find ourselves in). Once we find ourselves in this materialistic system, it may be easy to become addicted to those products. I think it can be countered, but you’d have to really want it, have the values that require that change and stick to those values almost in an act of rebellion against mainstream society. It has been done, but not by the majority.
I am certain this is the case, because so many times before things I buy have broken and when you examine it it's obvious that it could have been made better. I hade at least 5 paper shredders break on me in a row, only days after I bought them. Things just fall apart and stop working, it's not like we can't design things to last, they want it to break so you are forced to buy a new one and make them extra profit that they wouldn't get if things were built properly. Even things made from solid steal still break and it's so annoying.
I now plan for obsolescence, if something breaks too quickly, it flies through the window of the shop that sold it. You know, like the brick they made it.
Meanwhile, most of the viewers of this video watched on a phone they purchased less than 1.5 years ago. (Whats worse is if their previous phone wasn't broken)
Greed. IPhone Apple MUST make them last longer. I still have 4 of my old phones and they work perfectly including my Nokia slide phone that's 20-23 years, I still use it as it gets service in the deep bush.
Most of the time it's the components inside that breaks. PMIC is very common to break it stops the phone from charging and replacing the chip can get expensive since most of the time chips are also proprietary so you buy a second hand board well that gets expensive too.
I wonder why every car-company has a whole new palette of new cars every year. It's massively annoying. Why not just build one or few REALLY GOOD models? Also cars are expected to last 5 years at the moment. Thats horrible
repairing phones or any other device, at least where I live, is pretty much the same value as a new one. As in discarding these items, stores that sell these, should also accept them so it can be properly dismantled instead of being thrown away.
The problem is that planned obsolescence affects everyone's wealth and job security and that is why government s won't do anything about it. Same with healthy food, there's not enough for the current population and the system benefits from cheap food and the resulting deseases.
With very tiny few exceptions, almost all of those that made this video, and almost all of those that commented below, would be as blinded by money as all the corporations, and they would do the same if they would be on the top of the game (i meant "on the top of the jungle"). It took me 20 years to undestand the exact and profound mechanics of this.!
They aren't going to make a phone that lasts forever because technology evolves 4g phone don't work with 5g there is no reason to make them last forever.
I think we should put laws in place that include right to repair and make planned obsolescence illegal.
Totally agree. But the lobbies of these companies/industries are so powerful, they will do everything to prevent such laws.
@@insectbite1714 Apple is a traditional corporation, not a B-corp or NPO. They are, by construction, obliged to maximize profit/ShareholderReturns. That's a grey area with lots of latitude; but famously, Craig Newmark of CraigsList was sued by an employee/shareholder after_giving_ employees shares, then deciding to do something charitable with company assets. 😡
I don't think that would be enforceable
That's impossible because our current economy relies heavily on planned obsolescence to keep going, it would collapse almost instantly without it (although eventually this model will collapse anyway due to its unsustainable nature).
Maybe you'll start making your own business making durable items and quality, but maybe you'll not gain too much profit and maybe also risk you to bankruptcy; or option 2: make your sales expensive, but people preferred the cheaper ones; the dilemma is there...
I think it's about time we started valuing durability in products. I always get frustrated about this when I look at online reviews. I want to know how long it will last me, and more often than not there will be many reviews saying that something worked perfectly at first but then stopped functioning. It's messed up that companies do this to make more money.
This is so true , most review just simp the manufacturer ,rather then criticising it ,why would I watch review if just want to know plus points, most review are just ads nowadays
I've noticed another way of forcing you to buy a new phone.
Spare parts are so expensive to the point where it doesn't make sense to repair but rather buy a new one.
How can a phone screen be more than half the price of the phone itself?!
That's Apple for you
@@avim4896 was a Samsung for me (well not mine but my mother's)
As of now mate it gets even worse on Iphones hahaha. It wouldn't even let you replace the broken part with a third party spare parts because the phone would detect if the vital parts got swap out and it wouldn't start the system hahaha.
Imagine if manufacturers were buying back our old phones for materials reuse rather than us having to pay to dispose of our phones properly
@Clarissa 1986 now you are pretty much stating that Apple is doing a good thing in terms of electronics. Apple is not. Apple is head of planned obsolescence and fighting against 3rd party repairs for their products. Apple sucks! Even if you wanted to replace the battery of your Apple phone 14 or the 13 even, you can't! The phone will not work any more after you've opened it! You have to go to an apple store. Who is the owner after you bought is? With this type of reasoning I don't even think you fully own the piece of hardware! No one should buy any Apple product until they would radically change their way of doing these things!
This video could have used an interview with the Fairphone folks.
They are bringing in more easily repairable, modular phones that you can upgrade, instead of always buying a new one. You still create some e-waste with the part you are replacing, but its much more sustainable to throw out just the screen from your phone when it breaks than the whole unit.
They also have a phone recycling service! Pretty cool. The phones are really expensive upfront but if they do last as long as they claim to, it might be worth it.
I remember figuring this out in 2007, when the iPhone came out. I dropped mine on the ground and shattered the glass. All the hype of that thing - the most hi tech thing ever created - and when I picked it up, it had a broken screen. I remember calling Apple and the woman on the other end (carefully) telling a surprised me they couldn't just replace the glass ... I had to buy an entirely new phone.
Your channel deserve to get more views and subs for its content
I was using a galaxy s5 up until about 6 months ago when I upgraded to a refurbished s7 because it wasn't compatible with the apps I needed. Apparently psychological obsolescence doesn't work for me.
We need more people like you to stop this overconsumption :)
so messed up how these companies do this.. but at the same time we completely enable them to do so..
This the inevitable nature of Capitalism. Planned Obsolescence makes us consume resources more than what we actually need and makes us creates more waste.
Companies should be sued for making devices unrepairable, unrecyclable, and for making updates that slow phones down
these are the youtube channels which deserve 100 million subs and yet we have rather useless channels sitting at the top
Yes for example diy perks
@@insectbite1714 jeff Bezos is worst.
He is creating so much plastic waste, taking control of every aspect of our life. Here in India, millions of shopkeepers are losing livelihood cause of him, how can you justify all that ?
It’s life I guess
Fairphone and Shift are two companies in Europe working for reparability, replaceability and fair supply chains. It would have been better if this video has a bit about them in the end
Thank you for your input on this topic. Have you already had personal experience with the products made by these two companies?
@@DWPlanetA unfortunately not. Looking forward to it, when my current phone needs replacement. I have talked to a couple of people who have used Fairphone 2 and they had mixed opinion about it
Interesting, why mixed though? Is it the phone itself?
@@DWPlanetA unfortunately I don't remember the details. Looking forward to use one myself!
I really like the concept of Framework laptop as well. The law goes slowly towards repairability in EU. I have hope about this in the future.
6:05 Even if you were able to make it run, there's probably a DRM on that phone that detects if you change the battery and will prevent it from working anyway, lol.
There should be a worldwide law against planned obsolcence.
The world is mostly run by Capitalism and how the fuck can you sue them and stop them from creating more wealth?
I think a right to repair law is important, but the problem as a whole wouldn't exist if we didn't have idiots who just have to buy the latest iThing each year. Get your electronics second hand. Get something like a Nexus 5 where the bootloader is unlocked and you can put whatever OS on it if the android that it ships with gets too obsolete.
In some cases, voting with your wallet is not feasible, but for consumer electronics, it very much is. There is almost no functional difference between an Apple product and any other electronic gadget. Some of the UI is a bit different, the look and feel of particular software may vary but that's it. Stop buying Apple and they'll be forced to make their devices easier to tinker with.
People are like sheep to the brands, always wanting the latest shiny thing that's pretty much the same as last years. They are also judged if they don't have the latest tech. I know of a mother who makes around 500€ a month and bought her daughter a 1400€ iphone because her """friends""" made fun of her because of her phone, which was also an iphone from the previous year. This is ridiculous behavior, and everyone is at fault here. I'm sure this happens all around the world, and not just with phones.
Computer tech is also starting to be like this. For example AMD released last year a cpu that's excellent called Ryzen 3800XT, and then a few months later came out with the 5xxx series that's SOOO much better than the 3xxx series, and were almost begging people to buy the new ones! But truth be told, 95% of the consumers wouldn't even notice the difference between these cpus.
About repairing, i guess it has to do with how handy you are. i have opened computers, tvs, laptops, my iphone and my ipod, ps2 etc etc and they always work after. Of course for people that are not handy it's not feasible, it's much better to take it to a proper repair shop (that's not a scam).
I think that mine is an IPhone 6 or 6s and it suits my needs perfectly. Just enough useful features and functions to meet my simple needs. I would only replace it for a newer model if my current one is broken beyond repair, or my parents pass me down their old one having bought the latest model of IPhone.
Of course it doesn’t stop both Vodafone and Apple encouraging me to buy a newer model for no extra money. Basically suggesting that I get a “free” upgrade as part of the contract. Though I’m certain that it came with clauses that make me compensate in some way for it, such as offering it only if we agree to bound to the contract for the next two or three years.
As for DIY repairs I’ve only ever done it to my PS4 and modified some of the game files of FO3 to fix a random crashing problem. My PS4 started randomly ejecting the disks inside, even when I was in the middle of playing that game which always ended when the disc was ejected. Wasted quite a few hours of gameplay if I forgot to save very frequently. It pretty much made playing games almost impossible as few had the patience to to put up with disk ejects every twenty to thirty minutes. So I didn’t want to send it away for repairs I discovered that I might be able to repair it myself in just one hour. Ordered the tools I’d need and watched tutorials on TH-cam. So once they arrived I opened up the PS4 and followed the precise instructions, then bent the strip of metal to disable the manual eject button for it could also be done using the software command. I had no warranty as it had expired anyway.
But the surgery succeeded and it solved the problem. Well worth losing the eject button for disks and the ability to sell the PS4 on sometime far into the future.
This+
Buying refurbished old flagship is so much better
its brand snobbery, I see so many young people even kids with the newest iphones.
When they started using glass to make the back of phones I knew we are in trouble.
i noticed a lot of ppl dun put covers on their smartphone, or maybe we should demand makers make phones more durable
2:09 this man should be a voice actor, what a really nice voice!
@@insectbite1714 yes they are but i still love my iphone, bought it in 2016 and it's still going lol the androids i had before all gave me trouble.
I think planned obsolescence has lot to do with a company coming out with a new model (presumably with more\better features) every year than it has to do with building in breaking points.... It's the new (better) model that makes the consumer feel that he is 'being left behind' and thus generates the motivation to buy again. Look at phones and home theatre systems.
You are foolish and young. This is not new, auto industry has been doing it for years. Ask any engineer.
When a Company Intentionally builds in Planned Obsolescence into their Products, then The Consumer should Plan To Totally Abandon that Company's Products and Services.
Let's just call it "Planned Consumer Retribution"
There’s no need to make smartphones hard to fix. These things are useful as long as you’ve supported OS. Once support is dropped it’s not too long till your out-of-date apps won’t be able to connect to social media or other internet services making smartphone essentially useless. It is proprietary software and most importantly proprietary interfaces that are root of all evil.
I seem to be almost immune to this new smartphone nonsense. I don’t really like most of the smartphone apps and stuff. I sent and receive calls and text. And surf the internet. I never need to update unless it breaks and I can’t fix it.
@@mikoto7693 no security updates either?
We'll only learn when we're at the brink of something tragic be it anything.
Great piece. The battery of my 3 year old MacBook just broke. Only three months after the AppleCare warranty expired. Impossible to fix it myself. Now, of course, I have to pay for it. I know it's stupid, but my next laptop will definitely be an Apple again. Maybe I'm just addicted?
We humans do things that we know to be bad for us all the time. People smoke. People drink alcohol and do other drugs. People don’t exercise as much as they know is good for them and scroll mindlessly through pictures or click through video after video on social media. They even put money towards products that they know have caused suffering in one form or another. Why we do it is a great question. I’d take a guess and say it has to do with the beliefs and behaviours that have been instilled in us through clever marketing, instant gratification and peer pressure (or the environment we find ourselves in). Once we find ourselves in this materialistic system, it may be easy to become addicted to those products. I think it can be countered, but you’d have to really want it, have the values that require that change and stick to those values almost in an act of rebellion against mainstream society. It has been done, but not by the majority.
@@heatherdyett9119 well put.. this is what should be told in the media
Planned obsolescence is the bane of skilled workers everywhere...
5:55 Yeah but Apple stopped sending the power adapter with the iPhones to save the planet. 😂🤣
I am certain this is the case, because so many times before things I buy have broken and when you examine it it's obvious that it could have been made better. I hade at least 5 paper shredders break on me in a row, only days after I bought them. Things just fall apart and stop working, it's not like we can't design things to last, they want it to break so you are forced to buy a new one and make them extra profit that they wouldn't get if things were built properly. Even things made from solid steal still break and it's so annoying.
I now plan for obsolescence, if something breaks too quickly, it flies through the window of the shop that sold it. You know, like the brick they made it.
Meanwhile, most of the viewers of this video watched on a phone they purchased less than 1.5 years ago. (Whats worse is if their previous phone wasn't broken)
Greed. IPhone Apple MUST make them last longer.
I still have 4 of my old phones and they work perfectly including my Nokia slide phone that's 20-23 years, I still use it as it gets service in the deep bush.
Most of the time it's the components inside that breaks. PMIC is very common to break it stops the phone from charging and replacing the chip can get expensive since most of the time chips are also proprietary so you buy a second hand board well that gets expensive too.
Lack of value is the most vile theft of all.
Manufacturers should make Phones every 2 Years not every single shitty year
I was expecting some couple of million views for this video.
I wonder why every car-company has a whole new palette of new cars every year. It's massively annoying. Why not just build one or few REALLY GOOD models? Also cars are expected to last 5 years at the moment. Thats horrible
repairing phones or any other device, at least where I live, is pretty much the same value as a new one.
As in discarding these items, stores that sell these, should also accept them so it can be properly dismantled instead of being thrown away.
We are NOT all to blame. It is all the fault of the manufacturers!
Yes we need to have a right to repair
IFIXIT being in this video is amazing !
Great video
Don't put your whole life in a phone.... that is pathetic.
I think phones should not be released often,the phone should be easily repairable and backwards compatible.
I was thinking of a way to combine every old phone and every old computer I can find... to keep upgrading my latest home computers like external GPUs.
Apple can make 10 different types of screws inside their phones and couldn't figure out how to use few of them to fix battery in place
4:09 not made for repairability.
My OnePlus 8 is in perfect physical condition, but about a month ago the battery stopped lasting all day and barely last half a day.
If we are not providing charging cable and adapter to protect environment we shouldn’t shy away by letting people replace batteries with ease:)
I am always looking build my own phone like PC from OEM parts
We are slaves of todays trends.
I fix smartphones, definitely never use the suction because you will have that issue lol
I would have bought a fairphone if it has a headphone jack. Watching this from a framework laptop.
No wonder project Ara are being shut down... There is no money in it..
1:26 That high school girls is doing compensated dating she's waiting for her papa.
The problem is that planned obsolescence affects everyone's wealth and job security and that is why government s won't do anything about it. Same with healthy food, there's not enough for the current population and the system benefits from cheap food and the resulting deseases.
LEDs can last forever.
But your bulbs die out every 2 year bcz high voltage is given to it
Nothing new, and not only for smartphones....check fridges... laundry machines, cars... (the latest car with BATTERIES....)
Yes if you drop all the time all my phone 📱🤳 crack screen. My friends tell me to buy a new ones
👏👏👏👏
With very tiny few exceptions, almost all of those that made this video, and almost all of those that commented below, would be as blinded by money as all the corporations, and they would do the same if they would be on the top of the game (i meant "on the top of the jungle"). It took me 20 years to undestand the exact and profound mechanics of this.!
👍👏
Pero re facil
this is capitalism
It's definitely in the consumer's hands. Where there's demand, there will be supplies...
eco-friendly my ass
New method of samsung phones, yoj phone stuck on airplane mode or you battery doesnt charge
They aren't going to make a phone that lasts forever because technology evolves 4g phone don't work with 5g there is no reason to make them last forever.
Apple
Jesus loves you!!!
I felt the pain when he was trying to fix his phone