Was I WRONG about Ramattra in Overwatch 2?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 ธ.ค. 2022
- He's meta for all the wrong reasons hopefully the balance patch fixes this
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I can't believe they brought back double shield meta with a single hero.
I DIDN'T EVEN THINK ABOUT THAT KEK
SCREAMING 💀💀💀💀
Ramattra heard rein say "I will be your sheild" and took it too literally lmao
Yup you get an OW1 Orisa and a shield-bot Rein in one hero.
WP GG, waiting for goats v2 now
From what I've seen, everyone plays ram for the first 3 mins, they get rolled, then switch to hog.
Whoever picks hog first is most likely to win. Somehow. Someway. Obesity can beat the majority of characters in this game.
Wow I thought I was the only one that noticed that
I mean, it's QP to be honest ...
Actually accurate, exactly what I did on my first games with him
honestly i found ramattra nemesis form to be pretty good to negate the primary fire from hog, while you yourself can dish out damage.
Reason being that you got just enough time to get an attack inbetween roadhogs primary fire while still being able to block his shots. You just gotta learn to juggle your shield and nemesis form and avoid hog when you got both of those down.
So i was playing and was confused as to why rammatra felt so familiar.
He has,
1. A primary fire with high rate of fire, slow projectile speed, but a large magazine.
2. A deployable shield with ~1000 hp that lasts for 4-6 seconds.
3. An orb that pulls (downward) and slows enemies.
4. A secondary defensive ability that gives a massive damage reduction, slows your movement speed, and removes the ability to be headshot.
They f***ing brought back OW1 Orisa.
4 seconds shield but yes
First time I played Ram I said halfway through the match, OMG, this is just an alt version of the Orisa rework.
This needs to be the top stickied comment. No shit.
You can be headshot in nemesis mode what’re you talking about
@@Kabal39 block
10:24 the Cassidy jumpscare and him just standing still barely flinching at the punches is kinda metal ngl
Blizzard devs: "Ramattra is a TEMPO TANK!! Pls believe us"
OWL: Picks Ramattra exclusively because he's really good at standing still for a long time
The duality is impeccable once again
Still, sounds like he's good because he can control the tempo of a fight. The tempo he forces is just a slow one lol
@@Criiies Right until people just ignore you like with Orisa.
@@Real_MisterSir at least ram demands some kind of attention with the slow and ult
but he IS a tempo tank! His tempo being slow AF tho
@@Real_MisterSir From my experience ignoring Orisa is a bad idea in high Elo cuz they can actually aim. Orisa does more dmg with primary the closer she gets, so anytime I let her push my team in gold and plat we would get shredded
the double take from the ana at 6:00 was good
Best place to put torb turret in the game.
Rammattra having to overrely on his block to survive is because every other aspect of his kit is weak. Buff his other abilities to be good and then you'll see offensive ramattra meta
honestly just making the punch useful, slightly more range, would do a ton
rammattra is going to take a long time to find his place in the meta. As of right know he seems to strong but not for the reasons we thought. He seems to be a bit of a poke style of tank. Nemesis form is to strong because of block and that’s it. I think they should to rework nemesis form entirely. Either make him a better for single target focus or they could just slightly buff some of his numbers. My problem with them buffing his numbers is his play style is super passive and promotes camping.
you have to block cuz the punch doesnt do enough damage, so sometimes you try to kill someone in front of you and dies
His staff, vortex, shield and also the 150 armor in nemesis are pretty good in my opinion but the punches need to be buffed I think.
@@jom1718 the vortex needs a buff to the height it pulls the enemy, and about the armor i think they can try +50, cuz one of the reasons you dont aggro as ramattra is because 600 health is good but not awesome, sometimes you take a lot of damage or already has so you need to block right at the start
Flats casually opening a snack while shooting got me cracking up 😂
From what I've seen, they need to buff Ramattra in a way that encourages more aggressive use of nemesis form, be it a larger hit size for the projectile, faster attack speed, or a flat damage buff.
They could add ramping damage, like syms gun. Each consecutive fist of fury increases it.
The problem is how to improve nemesis form without breaking it during his ultimate, where it has indefinite duration. Maybe make it function more similarly to ult? Reduce duration to ~4 seconds, but the duration only goes down during block?
@@Vanlifecrisis Ooo that's I cool idea as well!
@@JordanYee what do you mean by that?
All of it
This is the kind of gameplay we need to see in OWL. Man embraces his identity as a wall and just stands there menacingly
When both rams are ulting and just blocking the whole time. XD so funny.
happened multiple time to me, when you got heals, yeah, it's fun :D
Why did the ult seem ridiculously long?
@@localnpc The timer on the ult doesn't go down while it's dealing damage. Both ults were constantly hitting the other Ram, so the timer just never went down.
@@localnpcyeah if people are in you're radius it just doesnt end. running away to counter it seems kinda...
"I played football in college"
*Checks irl pictures where he's next to emongg*
JEEZE no wonder he's a tank main.
6:22 bro ate that chocolate bar like roadhog would 💀
They should have it so the block starts at 99% damage reduction and reduce as damage is taken so the block is more punishable.
Could work.
+ either have a cooldown or have that percentage reduction work cumulatively across any use of block during a singe entry into nemesis form
should just remove block and give him something else
Agreed. The way flats was blocking was a bit nuts lol. He literally cant die
@@FlightX101 Put a bastion in the mix and even while blocking and being healed Ram will die in about 5 seconds, include a hero that can stun him out of the block like Doom and maybe ana with sleep and Ram will become obsolete.
You wanna know the secret to a good Ramattra, Flats? I'ma tell you right now-it's a technique I don't see anyone else do, so I'ma call it _"BLOCK FLICKERING"._
You know how Mercy can switch from healing to damage on a dime, or how Rein can put up his shield and drop it repeatedly in an instant? Ramattra can basically do the same thing... pop Nemesis Form, and while *_holding_* LMB to pummel someone, *_tap_* RMB to put your arms up for a half-second, by which time he'll be ready to pummel again, maximizing both damage output and block uptime. I've been facing Diamonds, Masters, even Top 500 in the arcade, and it's pretty consistently worked against them all.
His shield reminds me when at the end of OW1 they made Orisa barrier have a ton more HP but lasted like 2 seconds because they couldn't add the twirly wirly bird.
Rammatra seems like such a cool design for a hero too. A brawling menace just punching people and being scary, and then arguably the best way to play him is blocking and being healed lmfao
I think all Ram needs to make Block less of the overwhelmingly good option is something to spice up the punches just a bit more. Maybe (to further reinforce his ties to Zenyatta) he could have a "charge" ability that allows him to pummel out multiple times in rapid succession. Then theres a trade off between blocking and preparing a killshot.
that would be neat, although block already takes up the m2 button, so it would have to be bound to something else
@@bunnygod5658 perhaps they could make it secondary fire, and then make block ability 1 during nemesis form, and move the ravenous vortex to the omnic form exclusively
@@mayuwu4408 that would be neat
Id love that, proper risk reward balancing
not to mention the animation would look sick
Imagine if the ult was what it was when it was first advertised, with the 50% damage reduction. It would be the best ult in the game by a huge margin and anyone not playing Ram would be throwing
Pay2win
Wait it doesnt do that? I was wondering how I was killing ulting rams so quick.
@@k.schuffs4657 If he could do that while blocking infinitely he’d legitimately be comically busted, almost a guaranteed fight win
@@Phasmania "almost"
Imagine the ult rams both kill each other's entire team thriugh the ult and just stand there waiting for each other to die and start emotions and jump off a cliff
Damn.
>Bullet Sponge.
>Doesn't die.
>Draws agression with Annihilation.
Ramattra is an MMO tank in Overwatch lmao
Lmao true
Ramatra vs Ramatra ult, also known as the metapod harden battle.
I need an OW dev to watch this ASAP
Imagine being that enemy Ramattra and being totally confused when Flats runs up to your face and pops ult just to stand there and block...
2:18 the mutual bhops killed me 😂
when he said "suffer, as I have" I didn't think he meant ramatra blocking mirror match-up
When chat asks what Flats means about College, without realizing that's where he got his name from (I could be remembering someone joking about it but I think he told us that he got his name from laying people out flat on their back)
I can see that, he may be a chonky boy, but he's got that Tall People Strength. His legs could kick me into the afterlife.
His ravenous vortex needs a buff if they expect it to be the gravity trap they advertised
I recommend having it that while you're trapped and slowed it, you're unable to use movement abilities similar to Graviton. It's not exactly easy to land it in a way where the target gets trapped in the center of it and if they won't make it an effective anti-air tool, this at least makes it a strong means to deal with ground targets
@@geltric4779 I think that'd be a strong buff, while not being broken, especially with how little time vortex stays out for. As it currently is, vortex is one of the most underwhelming abilities in the game imo.
Vortex literally does nothing. Soujorn has the same shit but that ability deals 210 damage and lasts longer. It needs to increase the verticle height, duration and slow % because everybody just ignores the vortex nowadays.
@@Sierra7329 I would refer you to my suggested change in this thread and ask if you think that might help in any way.
@@moistman3110 I wouldn't say the 'most underwhelming' because I've had Genji's and Doomfist pissed at me in chat over my usage of the ability when trying to flank but it definitely requires a bit more forethought than say like zarya bubble which inherently is valuable even when you don't get energy from it.
9:47 Flats on the o-line? Now that would’ve been a glorious sight!
10:24 Being locked in a small room with Cassidy in front of you charging a high noon is fucking scary
* pulls out Hog hook and Orisa spear *
“Block, as I have!! “- Ramattra probably
what a beautiful tempo between sit there and wait until cd comes back, or hold down m1. nice
I think after one or two patches he's gonna be in a really good place, he seems like a good adition to the game, really fun to play and fight against.
True, his fun to play as to fun to play against ratio might be the best in the game, good enough you dont die constantly and can do objective but not so good hes essentially immortal (hog in qp is the bane of my existance and fuck comp because i already know its even worse there)
unlike hog
Lol nah this is Cap, blizzard is just gonna nerf genji and buff mercys pistol again
@@Bro1212_ 40 bullets now.
Rammatra WAS a tempo tank all along, he changes the tempo to a grinding halt.
If both rams on both teams change their setup so they can block just with click and they stop blocking with other click, they could block during ult and start chatting
Classic anime fight with full monologues
FIGHT, FIGHT UNTIL YOU BLOCK
Hi Flats! I was the bastion in your game at 4:45 that was "rolling." Fun game! At the beginning of that game I said "emongg widow ez win" and I was right he popped off too.
7:41 how’s my man got 110% pummel accuracy lmao??
Probably hitting multiple people at once
10:20 you desperately trying to punch him had me crying
Played Ramattra the other day, and honestly once you get the feel for his full kit, he can actually be quite powerful - specifically on push maps. Got 30 Elims with him, felt good.
Some of it may have had to do with my time playing War Thunder and how I got used to the tracking in that game, some of it may have had to do with the enemies not strafing, but I can say that Ramattra is probably one of my new faves.
What are your thoughts about hero ban and map vote kinda like r6 I think it would help the state of the game
Here's what they do with block because as is, it is a detriment to the fun of this character: Give nemesis form a base 25% damage mitigation (still allow headshots though) and put block on a resource similar to Dva defense matrix where it doesn't recover meter until after 0.5secs after you've stopped blocking. With this, they can give annihilation its full 50% damage mitigation back(25% from nemesis and another 25% from ult) so Rammatra can actually be a brawl tank without immediately being deleted.
YES everyone keeps saying his block needs a cooldown but what it needs to be is like DVa's defense matrixxxxxx, id love a tank that could freely change forms like that one celtic tank from SMITE that can change from a ranged character into a bear without a cooldown on her bear form
How can i submit a video for the spectating bronze series???? i gotta know how flats would feel about my Rein?
The two things I would like for Ramatra at the moment is a speed increase in his nemises form when he is not blocking (So heavy speed decrease in block and heavy increase when roaming) and then 2nd thing is better audio feedback with his weapon. I would rather get sound ques from hitting enemies rather than releasing nanites. At the moment I just hear a swarm of bees. I would rather want to hear that sound when I register hits on enemies. At the moment I have no clue...or maybe that is just me
Why does he have ravenous vortex in nemesis form? Especially since it oddly comes out slower in that form, which feels unintentional. Why not like a lunge movement ability or something?
What about hook javline doom punch does that not effect it?
You love to see a little nice Flats mini backstory from his college days.
It really doesn't help his hitbox massively increases in size and only gives you 150 armour as compensation for being a massive piss easy target to hit that isn't very lethal either.
OMG, pure comedy gold. I haven't laughed this hard at OW content in a long time.. Thanks Flats
He's Mike Tyson with his Nemesis form, with the peek-a-boo style, without the One-Shot potential that the boxer has.
He's my favorite tank by far
I love form switching anything and he's just a really cool character
He's already climbed to my top played tanks
I really liked when Ramattra said "It's blockin' time" and then blocked 🙅♂️
Love your stuff
What tweet do they mean at 3:05?
this is why i love the content the humor just at a different level
Can't believe when you let a character block for however they want, it doesn't end well
Its not for however they want,it has a 8 second cooldown
Ok 6:20 and you start having a Snack :D Classic
Try using Idakamasu with Hanzo. It’s annoying because you have to wait 10 seconds to exit the animal ion and half the time the animation doesn’t work
I like how Flats generally doesn't say anything bad about Overwatch, he just says things like "I'm practicing!" when standing still and blocking, admits that 2 Ramattras ulting each other is dumb as hell, eats while standing still and firing, and refers to the lack or excess of tempo when winning or losing with ramattra.
How to fix Ramattra and make him an actual "Tempo tank"
1) Remove Block ability entirely
2) Replace it with movement ability
3) Add a % damage reduction to Nemesis Form similar to Orisa's Fortify.
4) Reduce CD on Barrier.
Done. Now he has 2 actually different forms: Staff-form for blocking and long range spam, but with now mobility, and Fist-form for actual brawling and engage.
Removing Block would be a no-go since they spent time and resources (audio, animation, code) on it. Instead you could make it give movement speed after taking enough damage while blocking. Another solution could be giving a stackable movement speed per punch landed in nemesis form.
I think that they could do something pretty out there with ramattra. Remove his block but buff his nemesis in the amount of health you gain when transforming to nemesis and make his punches travel twice as far. I think this could solidify his play style and allow him to be better ballanced (as a poke character), with out having to worry if he will be op in every role, or useless in them instead.
2:02 Perfect example.
he'd be OP if it was twice as far. set it to the same range as moira, increase power up close, have it drop off rapidly. incentivize playing close in tank form and far in regular form. Force shields to either attack or retreat. Then his rapid fire could poke shields out at a distance. Im still mad it doesnt go through zaryas bubble.
@@zeedstun891 I feel it wouldn’t be op, what you could do though is make the nemesis form only last for 6s so it is more of a self sustain ability, like its currently used as. The reason for the range buff for nemesis is so you can use the ability with out having to go to a position where transforming back is possably a death sentance (the ability would still work for close range just as well, but you’d have better flexibility).
I love the part where you created tempo with the block
That high noon hack combo was hilarious lol
That bastion in your first game was pretty good
Idk if anyone has tried this or if it's been asked, but can Rams ult negate doomfists since he starts on the ground and just jumps super freaking high?
no. he goes right through. his ult actually negates status effects. including that one
feels like they should replace block with a super jump, think a lesser Winston leap, so he can actually get in with nemesis form. Seems more fun that way
clutch nano-block at the end
Great "Tempo-Tank". I don´t know if i just missunderstand the english meaning of tempo but in germany we have as well a product with the name Tempo. May they mixed something up, i don´t know.
I see you enjoy Kirby and the Forgotten Land music. An excellent choice
Is block bot fun though?
what the staff doin at 6:49 ?
At 30 sec in emong response 100% hit home for me 🤣
it's difficult keeping up with all this tempo
I guess having two block ability is the closest we can get to double shield meta XD
Ngl, I kinda had some fun in my ult just blocking- had the entire team beaming me but was being pumped full of heals. It was so intense and kinda funny seeing them trying so hard just to take me down as my hp barely chipped away
it seems like the block is pretty susceptible to ana darts. on offense you can just retreat if he ults. If you notice the enemy remattra just turtling when he goes nemesis probably pretty easy to just dive past him. IDK if this meta will stick or not.
I can't help but crack a rib every time I hear Echo ult into... M_O_I_R_A.
I don’t know why, but Ramatrra feels like he is in the wrong game. Maybe its because he is, technically, a stance switching character and those are usually in either MMOs or MOBAs, but he just feels off. Don’t get me wrong he is fun, but he just feels off in a hero shooter
I would totally change his block for a heal or movement skill. Why would you make a new og double shield Orisa in Ow2?
7:39 when your pummel accuracy is 110%
I mean... seams legit
If blizz truly wants to make Ramattra a "tempo" tank, they should increase is base health with some armour and reduce the extra armour he gets from melee form, then reduce the cd on his shield and give a small cd to his block similar to the one they gave to Sigma shield, and increase is the damage of his punches so he can actually brawl , his ult might need some changes but I'm not sure what it should be.
Honestly I think his ult is really interesting, maybe do what it was originally going to do and reduce the damage Ram-ram takes during the ult and the damage his punches deal during the ult so it’s more threatening
"I need medical assistance!"
Our Lord and Savior, Bastion Esquire the Third, reducing the enemy to atoms in response
Too perfect lmao
Ramattra is like twitter, you just block everyone who shoots against you
2:00 "The best offense is a great defense."
Dude said “set the craziest tempo”😂😂😂
Bliz: ow2 s2 will be HUUUUGE, look at this fun new tank concept
Bliz 2 days later: -summons orias all over again-
what team did you play for in college?
Poke, shield , block. poke, shield, block . "Tempo". its like the Hokey Pokey
What!? You’re never wrong :p
Jk thanks for the video flats!!!
Also, did you add that mercy who helped in fixing your abandonment issues?
Ah, yes. The legendary Babymaker
What about the Mercy? XD
@@PhantomFrisk4 add the mercy on their friends list. Ya know, to come help fix the abandonment issues when they start lol
the ramatra duels go so hard
Take a shot everytime flats says "Blocks up"
Just bring the bottle and chug it. Can't even pour it into the glass.
ah yes the tempo. "asleep at the wheel"
staff visual bug at 6:50
7:39 pummel accuracy 110%
There once was a man named Flats
Who spent all his days in his hats
He played Overwatch too much
And forgot to keep in touch
With the world outside of his flats
He should put down the controller
And go take a nice hot shower
He should leave his house
And start a family, that's a must
And get some sun, maybe for an hour
His skin is pale and sickly
From all the time spent indoors, so quickly
He should take a walk
And enjoy the outdoors, a hawk
And live a life that's healthy and active.
Facts ☠️
LMAO 🤣
Im so glad Im not high rank, cause we can still get creative with how we play the game. Being a block bot does not look fun and feels like a waste of this character’s potential
Does Kitsune Rush speed up Bastion Ult?
7:44 lol
Day 9 of asking Flats to do bronze vs bots again.
Excellent
im guessing he already needs a rework. get rid of the shield, make the block/punch more interactable (as in less dmg taken while punching people or something, a block passive, idk i'm not a dev)
Soon as Ramattra gets in ranked and doom is nerfed, it'll be S1 again for Doom mains. I see the future.