DO NOT Play FF1 for the NES Until You Watch This!

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  • @TheReturnersHideout
    @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    The video I'm pointing to at the end of this video doesn't exist yet, but for now here's some tips to get you through FF1 FASTER! : th-cam.com/video/16e3p_o1EM0/w-d-xo.html

  • @happycheese4u32
    @happycheese4u32 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    As a kid (and this was new) my friend and I were about 10 hours in before we realized we had to equip our weapons and armor. All the sudden our Black Belt wasn't the only good party member.

    • @kur1tan
      @kur1tan 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Yup. Who'dve thought that your character would be able to use the weapon you gave them without another step of clicking it to "e-"?

  • @MorreskiBear
    @MorreskiBear วันที่ผ่านมา +11

    For the time, this was a great game. The risk of going off the beaten path in a cave, looking for the treasure chest my video-game-trained mind knew was likely there, limping out before everyone perished or turned to stone, and the relief of making it back to town - it was an experience that would have been tarnished with modern UI luxuries. Sadly, I had to call the Nintendo Help Line to learn how to get the airship to fly after getting it out of the sand. Guy said something like "walk on it and press B". I felt pretty silly.

    • @john1701q
      @john1701q วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      You are 100% correct. Making it through the Marsh Cave was a brutal experience, but so satisfying. Making it back to town with dead and poisoned members. I felt like I really accomplished something. Learning to spread out and balance my attacks so I would not be attacking a "dead" enemy taught me how to plan ahead.

    • @matthewlucent7645
      @matthewlucent7645 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      You felt silly? Imagine how the employee from the Nintendo Help Line felt?

  • @Beodude123
    @Beodude123 วันที่ผ่านมา +12

    Just a heads up, there is Final Fantasy Renaissance. It's a faithful recreation of ff1 in unity. It's fantastic!

    • @taoafro1740
      @taoafro1740 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      This is the one you want to start with.

    • @BlackfeetSinopaa
      @BlackfeetSinopaa วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I love how it adds a ton of new classes and irons out the bugs, but still keeps the NES feel. I tried the pixel remaster, but I went back to FFR as it felt like the most definitive version.

  • @danielseiser6189
    @danielseiser6189 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +3

    Did the 4 white mages challenge! It’s totally doable by leveling up on the tip of that one peninsula. After doing that it’s all fun.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Congrats you are more bold than I am! I might have to give it a try though to at the very least experience it!

  • @gwgux
    @gwgux 16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    I played it when it was new. I never owned it for my NES, but I rented it a LOT. Fun times.
    I agree with the list of why and why not to play the NES original version of it. It's easier for me to play something like that because I have the nostalgia glasses, but for those without it, I recommend the pixel remaster. It's one of the most accessible versions of the original Final Fantasy in terms of availability and it is at least closer to the NES experience than some of the other versions out there.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Seconded. I’ll always point out the PS1 Origins version also!

  • @peves-
    @peves- วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    You are 37 years too late on this video. lol.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      Yeah I know lol, I had to save for a microphone and editing software!

    • @ants-in-my-eyesjohnson1271
      @ants-in-my-eyesjohnson1271 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And I'm a day too late to make this same comment.

    • @ScottW967
      @ScottW967 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Not really. I’m playing this game on my NES Classic Edition now.

    • @thevangsta9892
      @thevangsta9892 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      ​@ScottW967 this game is on the Nes classic!? Are FF2 and FF3 on there as well!? I might purchase me one if they are!! And no I'm not talking about FF4 and FF6 on Snes however if FF4 FF5 and FF6 are on the Snes classic I might go purchase that too!! Always wanted to experience the OGs even if they aren't the definitive way of playing those games these days!!

    • @ScottW967
      @ScottW967 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @@thevangsta9892 Only Final Fantasy 3 is on the SNES classic. There are 3 other RPGs on it as well: Super Mario RPG, Secret of Mana and Earthbound.

  • @shopmunkey
    @shopmunkey 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I played this on the original NES, when it first came to the US. I agree, it was a slog, and we had NO CLUE what to do most of the time. To be fair, we were like 7-10 years old, trading the controller between the 4 of us. Chaos took us something like 6 tries, with grinding in between each attempt. I think we had the nintendo power mags with some of the dungeons, but even with that it was confusing. Still, glad to have done it the intended way

  • @JamesShow
    @JamesShow 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Earned a sub. When I want the experience of "playing" this version I sometimes watch a Let's Play, haha. You hit the nail on the head that the bosses were laughably bad but getting merked in the woods without any tents/cabins was pretty much how you lost your last hour's progress. You'd remember to teleport from a dungeon but perhaps forget to have enough life to get back to a town.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Nearly every play through had something different happen, but we pushed through! We might have pulled out our hair a time or 2 but we made it!

  • @FailroadExpress
    @FailroadExpress วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This was my first final fantasy. I was 6 years old and had never played a game in which you had a pause menu that was important! So I never paused the game and never equipped all the weapons and armor I bought. I just assumed it was automatic.
    I also didn’t read instruction manuals back then. Why bother when games were so simple that you could just jump in and start playing. It wasn’t until a year or two later that I accidentally hit the menu button and realized that I had to manually equip my gear.
    I finished the game years later. Haha.

    • @Philosoforester
      @Philosoforester 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I was about the same age when I first played this. 30+ years later, still LOVE FF games!

  • @rileymcdonald2777
    @rileymcdonald2777 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    Zombies and the coctrice will mess you up, man!

  • @dracoerrarus4834
    @dracoerrarus4834 23 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    People miss a lot when fighting. Why is that considered a negative? In a similar vein, this game used its Wizardry-style “ineffective” attacks based on being out of position in D&D. It’s a simulation, and it’s really strange to me that players fight against realism.
    Temper and other parts being bugged is a much more serious issue. Temper is so amazing in the GBA version.
    Edit: I’m playing through the CrystalSwan version right now and am enjoying this game all over again.

  • @ants-in-my-eyesjohnson1271
    @ants-in-my-eyesjohnson1271 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    We didn't really struggle with the openness of games in the 80's and 90's. It was either "shut up and play the game" or "Go outside!"
    These days games are so easy and boring I just go outside, but then I never see any other 40 yr olds around to play with. 😩

  • @yunakitty2
    @yunakitty2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I was fortunate to play this as my first FF, in 1995. My friend had a copy, we played it at a sleepover, and she would let me take it home during the week only to grind, I wasn’t allowed to progress the story 😂 but I was happy to grind, I’d never played an RPG before but it quickly became my favorite genre.
    But now after playing modern FFs, I could never go back and play it. I tried on my vita a few years ago and it’s so hard and tedious for such tiny drops of fun! But since I played it first and that was the first “drops of fun” I ever got, I loved it!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love this story - I can remember asking my cousin to grind while I started playing a game boy game and he had no clue what to do. I remember telling him “just walk around and when you get to this screen, hit THIS button a lot”.
      He hated it lol.
      Drops of fun is a good way to put it for sure! Thanks so much for sharing!

  • @BigEll6969
    @BigEll6969 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    There's a game speed option on the main screen of NES Final Fantasy 1. I missed it as a young kid also, but it's there!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Oh yes I definitely utilize it, but it doesn’t speed up the 20 minutes it takes to buy 99 potions lol the game is just built slow!

  • @romannikonenko7325
    @romannikonenko7325 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FF1 was my debut in the world of JRPGs. I've played it for the first time in 2019. From that I've beaten it about 20 times using different parties and to this day it's my all-time favourite game alongside the Dragon Quest III 😊

  • @jarodivey9033
    @jarodivey9033 18 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +2

    So great to see you at it again!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  16 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Thank you so much! It’s good to be back!!

  • @franimal86
    @franimal86 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I recommend checking out Final Fantasy Renaissance. It’s got the original game with lots of bug fixes (like TMPR actually working) and a “Renaissance” version with new job classes and side quests.
    I downloaded the pixel remasters for 1-6, and although I replay most of them, they didn’t do FF1 justice. They made it far too easy and the maps twice as big (as if the dungeons weren’t big enough?? lol)
    Renaissance, however, has been an absolute joy!!

    • @tempestfennac9687
      @tempestfennac9687 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree about FFR being great. What's your favourite new class? (I think mine is Geomancer.)

  • @ryu9933
    @ryu9933 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    I played the OG on Nes. I got to the airship and never beat it. I have the PS1 and PSP versions. Beat both of them. The PSP version is my favorite.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Well if you have any interest, I do have a guide coming out soon that might get you through the NES version!

    • @bradjinks3568
      @bradjinks3568 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I bought this for my birthday in 1990. I had the guide from nintendo power which helped me get to the end although i couldnt beat chaos. It took me another year to finally get it done but man what a feeling beating old nes games was at that age

  • @madambutterfly1997
    @madambutterfly1997 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I just bought the pixel remastered collection for the first six FF games

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Awesome! Let me know how you like them!

    • @sarahdion6805
      @sarahdion6805 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Don't play the pixel remasters they lost all the charm the old nes and super Nintendo graphics had

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I fully disagree - while the NES graphics aren't there, there's a ton of quality of life improvements that make them worth playing! Everything is more balanced overall, OST improvements, EXP and Gil boosts, the ability to save anywhere, I just love it all! I think the original, as frustrating as it is, will always have a place here at the Hideout and with people all over the world, but I think the Pixel Remaster is a modern way to play the same game! Thanks so much for commenting!

  • @cedhabs20
    @cedhabs20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    FF1 to FF6 are the best final fantady I've played, wish they make a remake with today's graphics of FFIV and FFVI

  • @otakubullfrog1665
    @otakubullfrog1665 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I feel like where the lack of a western release for FFII and FFIII particularly hurts the series is that, if somebody asks for a recommendation for an RPG to play on their NES (no imports, emulators, etc.), I'd have a hard time recommending the original Final Fantasy over Dragon Warrior III or IV. Of course, the Final Fantasy series got its revenge in the SNES era when its rival series was a no-show in the west.

  • @ScottW967
    @ScottW967 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    How is it, that if you run into a Mage and they cast RUB, it instantly kills your party member? On top of that, unless you can make it back to a town clinic, you won’t be able to bring them back!

    • @Jikkuryuu
      @Jikkuryuu 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      The Ice Cave hates the player and wants them to lose. :)

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Some people call it the graveyard and I can absolutely see why!

  • @magnusdiridian
    @magnusdiridian วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    C'mon, a solo thief challenge isn't all THAT hard!!

  • @ge97aa
    @ge97aa วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    And no hand-holding? Are you kidding me?! One of my biggest problems with this game back in the '80s was how linear it was, and how the next step was always so obvious and required no thought whatsoever.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well that’s great for you! Especially because it didn’t release outside of Japan until 1990, do you still have your Famicom version of it?

    • @ge97aa
      @ge97aa วันที่ผ่านมา

      Was it really 1990? Okay, then. I thought I remembered playing it back in the late 80's. I guess my decades-old memory is off by a year or two.

  • @benjepson
    @benjepson วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    Loved this game, at the time I had dragon quest 1 and FF1, and FF1 was such a huge step up. The enhancements in newer versions have kept it fun even today.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I'm very lucky to have an in-box copy of Dragon Quest 1 (Dragon Warrior) sitting on my shelf right now and I have to 100% agree that FF1 is SUCH an improvement overall!

  • @777Eliyahu
    @777Eliyahu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    I have crazy nostalgia for this game. Yes, it is balls difficult. But victory feels like a huge accomplishment. To this day, it’s my second favorite of the classic 2D games.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      It’s a massive accomplishment! I have to ask though; what’s your first favorite of the 2D classics?

    • @777Eliyahu
      @777Eliyahu 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @ Definitely FF6, which takes everything good about the previous entries and puts it over the top. It was the first one played through, and shortly after got a copy of FF1 at good old Funcoland for like two bucks. Was a step back in almost every way, but the mystique surrounding the series’ origins had me hooked. I love all of them except for FF2 which I have never been able to get into because of the weird leveling system.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      On this channel, I definitely have lots of footage of me literally throwing FF2 in the trash, the Pixel Remaster kind of changed me on the game as a whole! I think it's at least worth a revisit, unfortunately - the unreleased NES Prototype is the next FF game I'm covering, so we'll see.. Oh and fwiw, FF6 is my favorite FF ever. I just adore that game.

    • @777Eliyahu
      @777Eliyahu วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ The pixel remaster definitely cleans up the experience. It’s a shame Square took the risk they did with the original release because the game introduces a lot of innovative elements like revolving party members and being more character driven. I had never heard of the prototype until you mentioned it, looking forward to the video!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      It was uncovered maybe 7-8 years ago but received little fanfare - the gentleman that owns it made a quick little video about it and that's kind of it. I would love to have it here at the hideout, but I'm not putting any stock into it!

  • @KamisamanoOtaku
    @KamisamanoOtaku วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    So, while I do own a copy of the game - if you count the NES Classic Edition - I prefer to play using the Final Fantasy Randomizer or Final Fantasy Renaissance.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I haven't gotten into any romhacks or patches or anything - I've been told to give them a try, but I don't know for right now I think I'd rather get through the OGs and then check those out later on. Are they worth the time and effort?

    • @KamisamanoOtaku
      @KamisamanoOtaku วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @TheReturnersHideout I think so *but* I don't have the Pixel Perfect version of the original Final Fantasy.
      Final Fantasy Randomizer, even if you *don't* use the randomizer part, still offer nice quality of life Improvements I find worthwhile. Including fixing nonfunctional mechanics.
      Final Fantasy Renaissance is similar but if you *do* embrace the additional features, you get to pick from a bunch of additional classes (from later titles), and even the original classes gain new abilities. I really enjoyed it, though it is on my backburner now because of newer game acquisitions.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      My backlog of games is.. overwhelming to say the least lol, I can understand putting some on the backburner. But maybe eventually I'll play the FF romhacks on a live stream or something. Thanks again!

    • @KamisamanoOtaku
      @KamisamanoOtaku วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @TheReturnersHideout Note that Final Fantasy Renaissance is *not* a ROM hack. IIRC, dude just rebuilt everything in unity. I'm clueless about programming, so if any of that doesn't make sense... my bad. XD

  • @nosaurian
    @nosaurian วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I'm so glad to see more new content from you! I think I've gotta run the original NES again, it's been a while...

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks so much! Putting these videos together has been super fun and I’m glad to be back and to see your name in the comments!

  • @RobertHMayfire
    @RobertHMayfire วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Reason FF1 feels harder than FFII(US), is because we got the easy version of FFIV. In Japan, there were two types of FFIV. Easy version and the original.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And there was actually a 3rd type! Easy Type and the US version still have some differences - when I get to FF4 I’ll talk alllll about it! Thank you for reminding me about that!

  • @Sherkel
    @Sherkel วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Phantasy Star 3 was the only one with an airship, but the first game sort of beat Final Fantasy to it by having a spaceship. Anyway, I'm planning to play a patch called Final Fantasy -1 (NES) that has classes from later games available at the start.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That's why I got a little confused with Phantasy Star, I didn't know which one had an airship! Also, that patch sounds super neat - I'm very green when it comes to patches and romhacks, but that one sounds awesome! Let me know how it is!

  • @tskophield9230
    @tskophield9230 10 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    I remember being a young child and watching my father play this on the NES! It was amazing! Then I shattered playing it! I think I was 10 when I finally beat it for the first time!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I played it a lot when I was a kid but I don’t think I actually sat down and beat it until I was in my 20s. Sad but truuueee

  • @JohnMartin-kf2sm
    @JohnMartin-kf2sm 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Yeah, I remember playing on the original NES and buying 99 heal potions was just 20 minutes of pressing A over and over. Not fun. But I still loved the game. Playing today would have to be on an updated version though.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      100% for sure, buying 99 of anything in FF1 immediately adds minutes to your overall run time and I hate it lol. Especially if you’re looking to max out all of the buyable items, that’s easily nearing TT an hour alone!

  • @mindlessmeat4055
    @mindlessmeat4055 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    I can't recommend the Gameboy version. They switched to a mana system in that one and basically trivialized the whole game. The PS1 or PR are the two I would recommend.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      By making that switch and having a pool of MP versus magic "charges", it definitely made the game VERY different and much easier to manage!

    • @TheTateful
      @TheTateful วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      I can't recommend the Gameboy version on account of the fact that there is no Gameboy version.

    • @Yurothehotot
      @Yurothehotot วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I mean offensive magic was basically useless in the NES ff1 due to Int being glitched and thus damage not scaling on top of charges being dreadfully skimpy I mean sure it could hit all enemies for but for pitiful damage wasting a valuable spell charge. the only good spells were buffing spells and if you had to do AoE damage just have someone use the Zeus Gauntlet or similar that can be used infinitely and equally well by anyone because Int is a useless stat that does nothing.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      The Gameboy Advance is a thing though and Dawn of Souls was on it.

    • @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc
      @CassiusZedaker-pr7kc วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheTateful He means the GBA version.

  • @alexh2790
    @alexh2790 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    I would reccomend playing this with with a fix patch. Aside from broken spells and stats this is still the meatiest version of the game and the progression really isnt that slow.
    Later versions (especially DoS) homogenize what is essentially a Wizardry game, there are encounters in dungeons that are there to delibrately make you soil your pants and you are supposed to run from them.
    As a bonus you also get the best version of its battle theme, whoever remade it kinda lost the plot and undermined the mood of the piece. I'm also not a fan of them dropping the unique rendidion of the crystal theme this one had.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      While it IS interesting to play this game while having a pool of MP instead of charges, I think it adds to the challenge to strategize and plan your trips to dungeons accordingly. I really feel like the Pixel Remaster got the balance right, I think it's just a clunky game over all in a lot of ways. I haven't ventured into patches and rom hacks yet but maybe one day I will! Thanks so much for commenting!

  • @Philosoforester
    @Philosoforester 6 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    It's one of the best (NES) games ever and you should 100% play it if you can. Bonus points if you go Warmech hunting on Tiamat's bridge.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      Warmech every time! The game is easy enough to 100%, but only if you’re leveled enough!

    • @Philosoforester
      @Philosoforester 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ If I remember correctly, I think you hit a level cap at 50(?) Had a maxed out blackbelt one-shot Chaos one time. 😂
      Last time I played it was a mobile version where they may have nixed warmech (spent hours hunting for it) and Chaos was way, way, WAY harder than in the original version. Would love to find a port that is 100% original.

  • @Jikkuryuu
    @Jikkuryuu 5 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    FFOrigins makes wasting hours of your life optional by putting it all in the bonus dungeons :D
    I really _want_ to say that the Pixel Remaster is the right version to play for the first time, but wow is it ever not that. Simply wandering around lost can get you leveled up to the point that 90% of the game is trivial. Saw a guy run into a Gas Dragon in the _Waterfall_ and just steamroll it like any other chaff. That same guy could *not* beat Chaos because he'd never needed to strategize for the entire game and didn't have the knowledge or even the tools to win.
    Also, the caravan location is even more poorly visually-indicated in the PR than the NES.
    Thank goodness FFRenaissance exists. Such a neat idea.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      I have footage of me running into several Gas Dragons in the waterfall cavern on the NES a few times! They just exist there and because of that, I too just hold A and move on lol. FF origins did not have the extra dungeons though - that started with the Dawn of Souls and PSP versions! Origins is largely faithful to the original with graphical, musical, and some minor QoL tweaks.
      I think my problem with Renaissance and other romhacks/fangames is they’re just not what the creators of the base game intended. That doesn’t mean they’re not fun to play, I just like to keep on with the actual releases, so much in fact that I took many Japanese classes to see the ORIGINAL game in its intended state! I’m weird I suppose lol.
      But thank you for this comment and for watching!

  • @1funkylionsfan913
    @1funkylionsfan913 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Been awhile, hope all is well .
    I love this game (nostalgia goggles)
    I got it when i was 12 and it was brand new , i still fire it up once or twice a year

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Doing great, my friend! It's been years since I went through it, so I played it... 3 times in a row, and discovered that there is a Prototype of the game that I'm trying to get my hands on currently!

  • @ge97aa
    @ge97aa วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Hard? Seriously?! Gamers, these days 🤦

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Th..these days? Friend, I played this in ‘92 you might not be aware but that was a loooong time ago now. And yes, games were much harder then.

    • @ge97aa
      @ge97aa วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@TheReturnersHideoutYeah, many were. Nonetheless, for me this game felt like a dumbed-down, easy RPG for beginners, compared to the likes of Might & Magic 1, Wizard's Crown, Ultima 2-5, etc. and ultimately very winnable compared to many of the nearly IMPOSSIBLE C64 and Apple II action games I grew up on (and even some NES gems like Battletoads).

  • @stripedhyenuh
    @stripedhyenuh วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Oh geez, I've played through FF1 around ten times over the years before watching this video. Am I going to jail?

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll call the Prison Moogles, they'll show you what for! Seriously, thanks for watching and commenting! Have you played the Pixel Remaster of the game yet?

    • @stripedhyenuh
      @stripedhyenuh วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheReturnersHideout Nah, too attached to the original, Nasir bugs and all.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I can understand! I think Gebelli is a brilliant programmer but yes this game is action packed with bugs lol thanks again!

  • @davidjohnston6547
    @davidjohnston6547 55 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    Never played the first one but I loved FFIV aka II, I had the original FF VI aka III that had the bug in the world of ruin that could crash the game and corrupt saves. Back to FF 1 it was difficult due to the limited Ethers you would find, and people made the mistake of equipping the black belt with weapons but they hit much harder without weapons. It's a fairly simplistic game and I agree it's not very intuitive on where you need to go next. It's interesting to see where a game started and see how it has evolved over the years. But if you want super simplistic play Dragon Quest (Dragon Warrior), that game fits the definition of simplistic (and what got me in to JRPGs). Remember my brother getting that particular game with his subscription to Nintendo Power.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  20 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      In FF1 for NES the only thing that restored your magic charges were Houses. There were no ethers yet in the game! And yes your black belt/monk should be fairly free of equipment nearly the whole time - defense items do the same thing!

  • @paddyhopper
    @paddyhopper วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I beat the pixel remaster without gaining a single level because you can turn off the Exp gain, and because the game has items the original doesn't. That being said, I can tell you, as someone that's finished an "oops all [any class]" run on the NES cart, even if I could turn off the exp gain for the cart and added those items into the games code, it would still not be beatable that way. The NES version has so many coding errors that made the game almost unplayable had it not been for all the ideas you cite in this video, that were in the name of being innovative with RPG video games. I think another thing this game did also, was that FF1 gave you a team. I am thinking of a lot of games that came out before this one that were fantasy rpgs and I can maybe think of a few tjat were on commodore or PC that existed before this one but not one I can recall. Most of them were like Dragon Warrior or Hylide and you had one guy doin all the ass-kicking.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      That’s a good point! Zelda, Crystalis, Dragon Quest 1, all those games at the time had a singular lead character! Thanks so much for commenting!

    • @paddyhopper
      @paddyhopper วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TheReturnersHideout Hey I dont have the time to make the video right now, so I was going to ask you if you wanted to make a video from my 0xp FF6CES run video. It's like 2.5 hours of me doing the whole Kefka fight at 5th and 6th level. You should message me if you're interested in making it or just want to see the raw video of it.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      @paddyhopper I can absolutely make a video on it, what ls the file size of the video?

    • @paddyhopper
      @paddyhopper วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TheReturnersHideout The main run is about 1 gig, and there are a few other videos you'll want that have some videos of me defeating some of the bosses along the way. You won't use all of the footage in the main video. Almost 2 hours of it is me just cycling a pattern on kefka. So you'll wanna fast forward over that in your video or whatever but there's some good stuff for content there for sure

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @paddyhopper okay great, 2 things:
      1. Is it on TH-cam currently anywhere? If so, throw me a link on here and I can get the video that way
      2. If not, head over to wetransfer.com and send the footage to returnerhideout@gmail.com
      Whatever I end up doing, you’ll get credit for it! I just wanna see it anyway lol. Thanks so much!

  • @Nebocsid
    @Nebocsid 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thoughts on the Pixel Remaster? The exp/gold boosts and turning encounters on/off took much of the slog out for me.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I love the pixel remasters personally, and yes the exp boosts/encounter toggle take the SLOGGGG out of it for sure, autobattle also helps tremendously!

  • @davidkwong3369
    @davidkwong3369 8 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    Um yes there are problems from spells not working to how the magic point system was, and even how many items and equipment they can hold. Made the game 10 X harder. That being said you gain the title "Hard Core" if you beat it! You gain a badge of honor!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Well I’ve beaten it 3 times in the last 2 weeks including a prototype that was never meant for release - video coming soon

    • @davidkwong3369
      @davidkwong3369 3 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @ what a tease! Now I'm 45 with 2 kids and my own business and no time for anymore versions!😂😂😂 please make the video so I can so I stay up with a six pack.😂😂😂

  • @Colin12475
    @Colin12475 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I played this game long ago on my old NES.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'm very lucky in that I still have all my old hardware and games and they all work perfectly! Did you ever get into the Pixel Remaster of it at all?

  • @GrahamWilliams889
    @GrahamWilliams889 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Playing on an NES without a turbo control is insanity alone just to refill your potions.

  • @Gary_P2
    @Gary_P2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I’m looking forward to the war mech video!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I'll tell you, it's WILD. Warmech is in several FF games including the Gameboy Final Fantasy Legend titles, so I'm excited to bring all that info to the Hideout! Thanks so much for commenting!

  • @homerhat420
    @homerhat420 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I recommend any version that improves the targeting of dead enemies.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      This. Anything that changes my ineffective attacks to effective ones is the game for me!

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish วันที่ผ่านมา

    The mini game in the origin version even has rewards.

  • @Chadjessup40
    @Chadjessup40 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I own a nes mini and I have beated final fantasy 20 times Great video game

  • @dh4352
    @dh4352 วันที่ผ่านมา

    #1 reason to not play on the NES is because the game is remade as final fantasy renaissance. Its the same game with bug fixes and new classes/features.

  • @anonymousm9113
    @anonymousm9113 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I agree with your take on playing the original in this day and age. Those of us who grew up with Final Fantasy will always "cherish" the difficulty, slow pace, and ambiguity of the NES version, but that doesn't mean that someone like me ever wishes to relive those days in 2024. When you're a middle schooler experiencing something new for the first time, it's one thing. When you're in your mid-40s with a full-time job, family, and household to take care of, time and convenience mean a little more.
    I bought the Pixel Remaster collection earlier this year, and I find all of those games to be about perfect for my current temperament. The PS1, GBA, and DS versions were all good in their own ways, especially with the added cutscenes and content, but the PM versions allow me to relive the story without going through the rigamarole of a proper classic playthrough. I can crank up the speed, boost my experience and GP/gil, and even turn off random encounters with the push of a button if I'm backtracking or just want to explore without the hassle of constant battles.
    Those playing any of the Final Fantasy games for the first time might want a more purist experience. I've played nearly every version of FFI over the past 34 years, so I like just getting to the point, kicking some monster butts as payback for having mine handed to me back in 1990, and getting that occasional moment of nostalgia.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      I fully agree with this. The encounter rate is outrageous in the NES version and it makes going through the caves a chore to explore, which is so backwards from our own nature to wander around and look at stuff. There are game genie codes though that allowed me to blaze through this version in an hour and a half though LOL! Thanks so much for commenting and I've got tons more FF1 content around the corner, including a video about an FF1 Prototype that was never officially released! The dialog and names of spells are completely different! Thanks again!

  • @ultralance
    @ultralance วันที่ผ่านมา

    tl;dr - FF1 is hella cheap if you wanna play a legit cart on real hardware
    Curious to see if my personal reason is on this video lmao - I've been getting back into collecting over past couple years and I'm planning to play through it pretty soon just because of how surprisingly cheap the original NES cartridge is, like $20 to $25 as an estimate. When I was really into collecting as a kid, basically all the main series Final Fantasy games weren't cheap, with certain entries like SNES III (aka VI) and VII. PS1 FF7 running over $100 for an original black label release was ridiculous, it sold like 10 million copies in the USA, making it the second best selling game for the system (Gran Turismo was #1).

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish วันที่ผ่านมา

    the translated ff4 or the ps1 chronicles ff4 is far better than the localized/sanitized ff2 US.

  • @bastardferret869
    @bastardferret869 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uh-oh. It's too late. I played it. Course... it was the mid 90s. I was in high school. Not much better to do I suppose. Hope I'm still good.

  • @elpatron3949
    @elpatron3949 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Oh please what missing, I beat this game when I was a kid with 4 fighters no problem

  • @bluestrife28
    @bluestrife28 7 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Giants Peninsula baybeee , I don’t think I can play the game without it. 😂 (also why I don’t play the remakes of it much)

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      The Pixel Remaster has better exp balance overall making the grinding spots totally pointless - I have a whole video on it lol. But I do miss grinding on the Evil Eye enemy in the ice cavern!

  • @RyanKuebel
    @RyanKuebel 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My man! He's back! WB dawg.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I've been around, making some videos! I've got several ready to go! It's good to be back! How ya been?

    • @RyanKuebel
      @RyanKuebel วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@TheReturnersHideout Good man. just doing the end of the year work grind. Looking forward to more vids!

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Glad you're doing well! I've got almost daily content scheduled from right now until the 13th and I'm writing more as we speak!

  • @ithydoodles
    @ithydoodles 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I don't think that I can go back 25 or 26 years 😂. Definitely wasn't my first Final Fantasy game at the time. It was hard af and confusing as to where to go and what to do But I managed

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      And for that, you get the title “hardcore”! What was your first FF?

    • @ithydoodles
      @ithydoodles 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @TheReturnersHideout technically 6 but it bored me when I was 9. It was probably 7.

  • @HaunterOfKanto
    @HaunterOfKanto วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    About 30 years too late. Played it way back when lol

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah well dang! I'm glad you stayed around and commented anyway! I too played it 30-something years ago also. Thanks so much!

  • @darksuns7384
    @darksuns7384 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I already played it like, 30 years ago.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Well I tried lol, I had to save up for a microphone and editing software!

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dragon quest 3 had the godbird.

  • @Redmage913
    @Redmage913 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Uh-oh, I got this in 1995…..

  • @billcox8870
    @billcox8870 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I remember beating this game😊

  • @ClutterTrot
    @ClutterTrot วันที่ผ่านมา

    2:31 noice

  • @sor3999
    @sor3999 39 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

    This game has direction, the NPCs clue you in. I think modern gamers dismiss these as fluff since modern games are bloated with fluff.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  24 นาทีที่ผ่านมา

      While some do clue you in, they make up so little of the existing NPCs. I went through the NES version 3 times in the last 2 weeks, got footage of every NPC and you really have to go out of your way to find the ones that lead you to where you’re supposed to go, in THIS version of it anyway. Later on, they had the Dancer in Cornelia make up that fact by making her know “many strange things” which translated to telling you where to go until you reach the Dwarf Cave with the TNT, then the dancer knows nothing further

  • @NikkiTaLance
    @NikkiTaLance 20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Immediate thumbs down . Didn't even watch the video. FF1 is a freaking masterpiece.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  20 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      Well that didn’t work out well for you - I definitely sing its praises in the video too lol. Maybe you’ll watch the next one

  • @JethroMaverick
    @JethroMaverick วันที่ผ่านมา

    Too little, too late… had my copy hell a long time before this video was posted lol😂

  • @loganhayse8771
    @loganhayse8771 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Now try Final Fantasy Renaissance.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      I’ve been told to play that one! When I finally get through the official games, I would love to look at fan-made games and romhacks!

  • @therant3837
    @therant3837 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This was the game that basically SAVED Square Soft from extinction. From my understanding they called it Final Fantasy because this game was either going to be a smash hit or it was going to be their final project. So..... it's interesting seeing a company on the edge about to go down in flames and their "final" attempt made it so huge that they just rolled with it. Historically speaking we see this a lot across the board with some of the most successful people and businesses across the world on their last leg where they just threw it "ALL IN" so to speak and made out like crazy. Sometimes..... desperation can be a powerful motivator to create great and astounding feats. We see this all throughout the Bible, actually. It's pretty much the same set up. God will let his children go through insurmountable desperate situations only for God to come in and turn it all around. Incidentally.... that's where the true definition of FAITH comes into play. I like Square Soft's story because even though Rad Racer was a top notch game of the time period it was Final Fantasy that truly put them on the gaming world's map ever since.

    • @franimal86
      @franimal86 วันที่ผ่านมา

      This game didn’t save Square from extinction - it’s a myth. The name comes from them wanting to use alliteration in the title. They originally wanted to call the game Fighting Fantasy, but that name was already taken.
      The company was doing fine before this game came out. Of course, Final Fantasy did make them a lot of money, but I think you jumped the gun with your conclusion that great things often come from desperate times.

    • @therant3837
      @therant3837 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@franimal86 No.... I didn't when it comes to great things coming from desperate times. You know quite honestly I'm so sick and tired of misinformation anymore it's hard to believe ANYTHING from anyone anymore. One person says one thing, another says another. I can tell you this.... My Bible never changes in this world but the stories about anything or anyone always do. The new Gnosis (or "secret knowledge" ) of the millisecond. I do believe I'll just stick with talking about the Bible from now on. THAT I KNOW WON'T CHANGE. Of course there are people out there that will even try to twisty tie that up, but uh.... I KNOW MY BIBLE, so I can't be lied to about that at least.

  • @whirlwind6141
    @whirlwind6141 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I unfortunately already played it 50 times, glitches and all

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา

      Ah dang, well maybe I’ll get the next game out before you play it! Fingers crossed!

  • @aspieatheist6040
    @aspieatheist6040 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Where have you been?!?!?

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh here and there, quietly working on some more videos! Thanks for being here while I figured it all out for myself!

  • @WilliamScavengerFish
    @WilliamScavengerFish วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not good at hand holding? Funny phrasing. If a person wants a ff game that holds their hand, play the snes mystic quest.

  • @Zman82
    @Zman82 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

    First FF is alot like basic D&D.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา +1

      That and Dragon Quest were huge inspirations on the game, along with some others too!

    • @Zman82
      @Zman82 4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @TheReturnersHideout indeed they were. And that's a nice name you got there. FF3 is my favorite of all time.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  4 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

      @Zman82 hey thanks!

  • @JamezMorrizProjectz
    @JamezMorrizProjectz วันที่ผ่านมา

    another creepy pasta?

  • @ryanc5572
    @ryanc5572 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I honestly have no idea how I beat this at 12 years old. It's so tough, vast, grindy, and frustrating. Seems like a miracle I actually did it haha

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      And that's quite a feat, especially at 12! It can really be frustrating at times, but I'm still glad it's there! Have you played the Pixel Remaster of it yet?

    • @ryanc5572
      @ryanc5572 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @TheReturnersHideout Yes, I really enjoyed it. It's definitely tougher than the phone and GBA versions, which I appreciate, but still a bit easier and far less grindy than the NES version, which seem to be the easiest versions of FF1.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      There were parts of the Pixel Remaster that did seem more difficult than other parts, absolutely! Which version would you say is your favorite one? Mine right now is the Pixel Remaster!

    • @ryanc5572
      @ryanc5572 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TheReturnersHideout I think I'm gonna say pixel remaster too. I love the spell effects and that's it's a bit more challengeing.. Lowkey you're making me want to play it again haha 😄

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @ryanc5572 Go for it! I’ve got several more FF1 videos coming out (including one about a prototype version that exists but was never released)!

  • @HyouVizer
    @HyouVizer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I didn't remember which town the guy's brother was for the tablet. FF1 pixel remake version.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Dr. Unne's brother is hanging around the fountain right in front of the inn in the town of Onrac! There's usually 2 NPCs that walk around in that area and he is one of them! Do you prefer the Pixel Remaster over the original FF1?

    • @HyouVizer
      @HyouVizer 2 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @TheReturnersHideout definitely, I abused being able to save anywhere and x4 Exp/Gil haha. Loved the open world map exploration and needing to talk to npcs to know where to go next, I miss those features.

    • @TheReturnersHideout
      @TheReturnersHideout  วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I loved the map feature where it told you the number of chests in an area and the fact that you could scroll around it to get a layout of the land! The save anywhere feature is quite a perk too! Especially in the Sunken Shrine and Chaos Shrine Revisited!