The deepest point of the Tube is at Hampstead and the highest point is the viaduct between Finchley Central and Mill Hill East, which are both on the Northern Line too. The Northern Line was named after the Northern Heights Plan. The line between Finchley Central and Edgware was going to link the two northern branches of the Northern Line. And an extension from Edgware to Bushey (Bushey Heath Station still wouldn't have been the northernmost). Well it has two branches in the north beyond Camden Town, and only one branch in the south beyond Kennington so Northern Line is a suitable name. But after the Kennington to Battersea extension opens, the intention is to split the Northern Line into two separate lines. Edgware to Battersea via Charing Cross would be remaned the West Northern Line and colour would remain black. And High Barnet to Morden via Bank would be renamed the East Northern Line and colour would become orange (the East London Line colour before it closed down).
Ref Waterloo Station: The station is named after the bridge. The bridge is named after the town in Belgium where Napoleon Bonaparte was defeated. The town is named because it’s where a forest is by a river (water is Middle Dutch for water, loo is Middle Dutch for forest.) The bridge was under construction in 1815, when the battle happened, and the original intention had been to name it “Strand Bridge” (after the nearby street.) But there was a public call for a bridge to be called “Waterloo Bridge” in honour of the 1815 battle, and the one under construction was chosen. By the time the railway station opened in 1848, the area had become known as Waterloo after the bridge, and the station was given the name.
My Anglophile sister visited London in her teens (I was over 30 my first visit) and told me jokingly that the Bakerloo line was named thus because a key part required the destruction of a Mr. Baker’s loo...
I'm a Northern Line native, I grew up with Woodside Park as my nearest tube station (throughout my childhood perversely proud that my station was the very last one in the alphabetical list). And I was today years old when I found out that the Northern Heights plan wasn't named after the Northern Line, but rather that the Northern Line was named after the Northern Heights plan! I never knew that!
With the recent extension to the circle, on the map Geoff displayed it looks a bit like a paperclip so the circle line should be renamed paperclip line
3:25 Geoff getting shady now... but it's true, large scale transport projects that don't open on time seem to be somewhat of a tradition. Although it would be such a British thing if the opening of Crossrail got cancelled, and instead we had a "Crossrail Opening Replacement Service" 😂😂😂
Hi, Geoff. According to my dad, who worked on the project, the Jubilee Line was originally to be called the Fleet line not because it ran along Fleet Street, but because it followed the course of the Fleet River.
Alison- actually it was to be named after Fleet Street as it was to run West-East under it. Fleet Street is so called because it ran westwards out from the City, to cross Fleet river, which runs North-South into the Thames
I travelled to school from Northwick Park to Baker Street by the Metropolitan Line and sometimes onto Marylebone by the Bakerloo line. We used to say that the Bakerloo line was a tube line because the trains went underground through tubes, but the Metropolitan Line (like the District Line) was not a tube line because it did not go through tubes even when underground. They were simply part of the London Transport Underground system. I know that they were commonly referred to as the Tube system, but that was because the distinction was not recognised.
It's funny that every new line seems to get a suggested portmanteau name when there's actually only one example already - Bakerloo. Crossrail's purpose mainly connects Paddington to Liverpool Street - and therefore it should be the PaddlingPool line.
I would sometimes use the W&C on Saturday mornings when the service was provided by a single motor car of Southern Railway 1940s stock. It was like riding a rollercoaster.
One of the two wildest moments I've had on a train was going through the crossovers leaving Bank station. I thought the carriage was going to scrape the tunnel wall. The other moment was in 1991 on the crossings at Finchley Central, after a night flight into Heathrow. I seriously thought we were 'on the floor'. I looked nervously at my wife, expecting a tirade, but she just stretched her legs among our suitcases on the floor and said "This is great, lots of room, much nicer than that horrible 747". So much for BOAC's flagship...
It's funny how the name "tube line" has come to mean both the Sub-surface lines (Met, District and H&C) and the deep tube lines. I suppose it's easier to say than "underground line". How many of us talk about "taking the tube" vs. "taking the underground"?
well done mate. your passion and knowledge and the time it takes to make one video ( graphs charts visual displays ) and you love it. your true and down to earth , all the best and i hope TFL AND OTHER people see your passion. keep on searching
Sorry Geoff, but Victoria Station is named after the area it’s in (which is named after Victoria Street) and not the Queen. The line is named after the station though
Question for you Geoff: If TfL were to eventually drop the pretence and refer to each Overground and DLR route individually, what should each of those "lines" be called?
For the Overground: Stratford to Richmond - North London Line Clapham to Willisden - West London Line. Some services continue to Stratford on the North London Line. Highbury to New Cross / Crystal Palace / West Croydon - East London Line. The Shoreditch to New Cross Section used to be part of the Tube as the East London Line, in orange on the map, and it shared its train stock with the Metropolitan Line. Clapham to Peckham Rye - South London Line. Services continue to Highbury on the East London Line. Gospel Oak to Barking - The Goblin Euston to Watford - Watford DC Line. The London Northwestern Railway services that run parallel to it are the Watford AC Line. Liverpool St to Chingford / Cheshunt / Enfield - Lee Valley Lines
You speak just like a friend of mine I've known for ages. At the end of every video I watch of yours, I find myself saying "Cheers, Geoff" out loud. I can't control it.
@@OneKnifeYeHand Waterloo being named after the battle was in the same sentence as the origin of Baker in Baker Street, Bakerloo being between Baker Street station and Waterloo Station, the inference being that the Waterloo in question is the station. I've lived in Pendant a long time now.
Worth mentioning the Hammersmith and City was a Joint GWR and Metropolitan line before the LTPB. The Trains carried the legend "Great Western and Metropolitan Railway" on one side and "Metropolitan and Great Western Railway" on the opposite side. Back then I believe the Circle, or "Inner Circle" as it was called used it's own stock, until London Transport's flair sided stock took over all Hammersmith, Circle and Uxbridge routes of the Metropolitan.
Even when the Circle Line still ran a circular service, it was shaped more like a bottle. Maybe it should've been called the Bottle Line (Londoners, is that part of the city known for pub crawls?).
Short and sweet. I would argue though, that, until fairly recently, the Central line extended to Ongar, which is where my late father's family lived, and his mum used it often to visit friends in Epping. Wasn't it Ongar from which distances on the tube used to be measured from?
I worked in the City of London from 1968 to 1990 and it was prettty much "The Drain" to everyone who used it or talked about it. Why it had this well established nickname I don't know, perhaps because getting to it was a bit like getting flushed down a drain, also it had a very distinct "damp dog" smell which was quite unique compared to the other deep-level tube lines and also it had those strange-looking trains with tiny windows.
The nickname is still around. Wikipedia says that the origin of it is uncertain, but it might be something to do with the slope-like entrance to City Station (now upgraded with a travellator) or it might be something to do with the tunnel under The Thames leaking and needing to be pumped out. The deep level railways through London got the nickname "The Tube", because they are like underground pipes. I suspect that the nickname "The Drain" stuck, because the Waterloo & City Railway was a different thing to the Tube Lines. Every railway should have a nickname. I like the fact that the nickname for the Bakerloo line got turned into it's actual name and would love to see the Goblin Line get given official status.
@@DavidShepheard I wish the Victoria line had gotten named Viking for Victoria and King's Cross - apparently this was considered but they didn't go with it which is a great shame!
@@DavidShepheard tube came from the literal tube shape of the tunnels. We guess a pipe could be considered as a tube, but more so because the tunnels are round like a tube.
Perhaps Geoff knows something we don't. The W&C has been closed for nearly a year, perhaps it has transferred to the Overground and is being rebuilt to run seven car 'S' stock trains?????
@@danand725 well that would make it a sub surface tube, I more suspect that instead they will be bring back the old national rail stock code Rail Class 487 but paint it orange
I remember a piece of grafitti around the 1976/77 time not very far north of Ficnhley Road station - can't be more specific this far away. It read "Fleet Line? Don't Jubilee've it!"
Nice little Video there Geoff, also a lovely history lesson on the London Underground, Also when you mention British Railways operated the Waterloo and City Line but did the pregrouping Railway, London South Western Railway and the grouping Railway, Southern Railways operated it before British Railways as well?
My country's metro system had also the Circle Line with I guess the same colour from the TfL system, a new map came & it's colour looks like it's part of the Overground :P
That was a good bit of History. May be we could come up with some questions for Saturday. I was a bit surprised The WC line wasn't named after a Toilet though.
I'm wondering if the Northern line will really be split into two lines. Would one of the lines still be called the Northern, and the other the Battersea? Or maybe the Northern and......Southern?
And I still think one is better than alla the others:"District Line!" I can't tell how many interesting people I've met there, and the stations are... They're there, in some cases not very pleasant, but memorable!! I love how you get all the city gents and the rastafari! Me? I'm just from Sorkar & Strängar.
I’ve still got two original ones that just have tube on it, I think ones from the late 50s and the other from 2005-06 as shoreditch and the whole east London line is on.
Well fancy that. That was quite interesting. My line for many years was the Bakerloo. Now left that to live in Dawlish Devon. And you all know about that. He He. 14 years now. And a New Station bridge and serous work done on the sea wall.
Another really interesting and informative video. Thank you! I am just wondering who would give these the "thumbs down"? No-one is forcing anyone to watch anything which is not of interest to them. I can understand this behaviour with political videos.... but here?!
There was talk of called the Victoria Line the Viking Line as it linked Victoria and Kings Cross or the Walvic Line as it ran from Walthamstow to Victoria!
Not sure if you've done this before, or you may already have a record of all of these... but would it be possible to see how much you spend on trains last year or keep track for this year? - I assume it won't be as much as previous years since we're all trying to stay home but it would be very interesting...
I think we should come up with a better name for the "Elizabeth Line". Partly, because its not a tube line at all. I quite like the idea of "the Purple line". Or, if you have lisp, perhaps "The Purpeth line" - cos it was Purputh built. Or maybe we should use the places it runs between. Like Reading and Romford - Redrom Line?
And because the "Metropolitan" line was the first, the Underground is in many other countries called the Metro... or like here in Portugal it is exactly called "Metropolitano"
I think you will find that Waterloo station is named after the bridge not the battle. The first bridge opened in 1817 and the station opened in 1848. 33 years after the battle.
How did the H+C fail to get a proper name? Why is it the only proper tube line (the WanC is only a shuttle) not to have a 1 word name? It sounds awkward. It does not work, for the reason you mentioned about city stations, and it's not even the best route from Hammersmith into the City, the District line is that!. As you show a precedent that the Bakerloo started out this way + got condensed, could the H+C eventually become the Hank line, the Hammy line, the Haiti line? For its part-circle shape, I suggest Arc line. It would be snappiest of all the lines.
The Northern Line name always feels a bit of an outlier to the others, as it's not derived either from the original railway(s) that built it or from a major station on the route!
I just realised that The Northern Line ironically has the Southernmost station on the Tube and also doesn't have the Northernmost Tube station
The deepest point of the Tube is at Hampstead and the highest point is the viaduct between Finchley Central and Mill Hill East, which are both on the Northern Line too.
The Northern Line was named after the Northern Heights Plan. The line between Finchley Central and Edgware was going to link the two northern branches of the Northern Line. And an extension from Edgware to Bushey (Bushey Heath Station still wouldn't have been the northernmost).
Well it has two branches in the north beyond Camden Town, and only one branch in the south beyond Kennington so Northern Line is a suitable name.
But after the Kennington to Battersea extension opens, the intention is to split the Northern Line into two separate lines. Edgware to Battersea via Charing Cross would be remaned the West Northern Line and colour would remain black. And High Barnet to Morden via Bank would be renamed the East Northern Line and colour would become orange (the East London Line colour before it closed down).
Ref Waterloo Station: The station is named after the bridge.
The bridge is named after the town in Belgium where Napoleon Bonaparte was defeated.
The town is named because it’s where a forest is by a river (water is Middle Dutch for water, loo is Middle Dutch for forest.)
The bridge was under construction in 1815, when the battle happened, and the original intention had been to name it “Strand Bridge” (after the nearby street.) But there was a public call for a bridge to be called “Waterloo Bridge” in honour of the 1815 battle, and the one under construction was chosen.
By the time the railway station opened in 1848, the area had become known as Waterloo after the bridge, and the station was given the name.
Quite so - that's what I thought too. Bridge - 1817. Station 1848. I suppose indirectly after the battle, but at one remove!
I’m suspecting I need to know ALL this for Saturdays Quiz!
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My Anglophile sister visited London in her teens (I was over 30 my first visit) and told me jokingly that the Bakerloo line was named thus because a key part required the destruction of a Mr. Baker’s loo...
I'm a Northern Line native, I grew up with Woodside Park as my nearest tube station (throughout my childhood perversely proud that my station was the very last one in the alphabetical list). And I was today years old when I found out that the Northern Heights plan wasn't named after the Northern Line, but rather that the Northern Line was named after the Northern Heights plan! I never knew that!
Thank you so much for still creating content during lockdown Geoff! I know it’s appreciated by so many of us 😊
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With the recent extension to the circle, on the map Geoff displayed it looks a bit like a paperclip so the circle line should be renamed paperclip line
the @ line
The trombone line
The drunk lower case 'e' that's fell flat on its face line.
@@davepoole9520 Sounds like a schwa.
3:25 Geoff getting shady now... but it's true, large scale transport projects that don't open on time seem to be somewhat of a tradition. Although it would be such a British thing if the opening of Crossrail got cancelled, and instead we had a "Crossrail Opening Replacement Service" 😂😂😂
Hi, Geoff.
According to my dad, who worked on the project, the Jubilee Line was originally to be called the Fleet line not because it ran along Fleet Street, but because it followed the course of the Fleet River.
Alison- actually it was to be named after Fleet Street as it was to run West-East under it. Fleet Street is so called because it ran westwards out from the City, to cross Fleet river, which runs North-South into the Thames
1:57 Fun fact - Waterloo station was named as such due to its proximity to Waterloo bridge, not directly named after the battle itself.
There's a small town in Belgium named after the bridge.
battle is still the name's origin, then.
@@conscienceaginBlackadder Nope, it's the small town in Belgium.....
@@acciid Battle is a small town near Hastings.
@@fredcat9080 Indeed. I wonder how it got its name.
I travelled to school from Northwick Park to Baker Street by the Metropolitan Line and sometimes onto Marylebone by the Bakerloo line.
We used to say that the Bakerloo line was a tube line because the trains went underground through tubes, but the Metropolitan Line (like the District Line) was not a tube line because it did not go through tubes even when underground. They were simply part of the London Transport Underground system. I know that they were commonly referred to as the Tube system, but that was because the distinction was not recognised.
It's funny that every new line seems to get a suggested portmanteau name when there's actually only one example already - Bakerloo. Crossrail's purpose mainly connects Paddington to Liverpool Street - and therefore it should be the PaddlingPool line.
I would sometimes use the W&C on Saturday mornings when the service was provided by a single motor car of Southern Railway 1940s stock. It was like riding a rollercoaster.
One of the two wildest moments I've had on a train was going through the crossovers leaving Bank station. I thought the carriage was going to scrape the tunnel wall.
The other moment was in 1991 on the crossings at Finchley Central, after a night flight into Heathrow. I seriously thought we were 'on the floor'. I looked nervously at my wife, expecting a tirade, but she just stretched her legs among our suitcases on the floor and said "This is great, lots of room, much nicer than that horrible 747". So much for BOAC's flagship...
It's funny how the name "tube line" has come to mean both the Sub-surface lines (Met, District and H&C) and the deep tube lines. I suppose it's easier to say than "underground line". How many of us talk about "taking the tube" vs. "taking the underground"?
If there wasn't the word "you" in English, you could have said "taking the U".
@@Wildcard71I suppose that's like the German U-bahn, short for untergrund bahb
Nice one Geoff quality 'tent as ever.
Thanks for inclining the ‘Fleet’ line was hoping we would see a snippet on the East London Line (Underground era)
well done mate. your passion and knowledge and the time it takes to make one video ( graphs charts visual displays ) and you love it. your true and down to earth , all the best and i hope TFL AND OTHER people see your passion. keep on searching
So, the ‘Jubilee’ line was supposed to be over by the Third Season of ‘The Crown’ and neither was the Crossrail? Interesting.
Sorry Geoff, but Victoria Station is named after the area it’s in (which is named after Victoria Street) and not the Queen.
The line is named after the station though
Question for you Geoff:
If TfL were to eventually drop the pretence and refer to each Overground and DLR route individually, what should each of those "lines" be called?
For the Overground:
Stratford to Richmond - North London Line
Clapham to Willisden - West London Line. Some services continue to Stratford on the North London Line.
Highbury to New Cross / Crystal Palace / West Croydon - East London Line. The Shoreditch to New Cross Section used to be part of the Tube as the East London Line, in orange on the map, and it shared its train stock with the Metropolitan Line.
Clapham to Peckham Rye - South London Line. Services continue to Highbury on the East London Line.
Gospel Oak to Barking - The Goblin
Euston to Watford - Watford DC Line. The London Northwestern Railway services that run parallel to it are the Watford AC Line.
Liverpool St to Chingford / Cheshunt / Enfield - Lee Valley Lines
@@katrinabryce Onl;y tiny error I'm seeing is "Lea" Valley mis-spelt; otherwise, I'd say bang on accurate!!👍😁
You speak just like a friend of mine I've known for ages. At the end of every video I watch of yours, I find myself saying "Cheers, Geoff" out loud. I can't control it.
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Waterloo was originally named Waterloo Bridge Station, so was named for the bridge not the battle! Greetings from the village of Pedant.
He said that the word "Waterloo" was named after the battle, not the station.
@@OneKnifeYeHand Waterloo being named after the battle was in the same sentence as the origin of Baker in Baker Street, Bakerloo being between Baker Street station and Waterloo Station, the inference being that the Waterloo in question is the station. I've lived in Pendant a long time now.
4:11 Bank used to be called City
Geoff knows this, he mentioned it in Secrets of the Waterloo and City
@@xander1052 He didn't mention it in this video though which is a shame
Who cares?
This is absolutely going to come up in a pub quiz or something one day. Good video, Marshall. Thank you.
I love wonderful informative videos like this - thanks Geoff!
4:04 transferred to the London Overground? I don't think so.
Oh, he spoke so fast that I didn't notice!
Yeah, I noticed that slip of the tongue too.
Worth mentioning the Hammersmith and City was a Joint GWR and Metropolitan line before the LTPB. The Trains carried the legend "Great Western and Metropolitan Railway" on one side and "Metropolitan and Great Western Railway" on the opposite side. Back then I believe the Circle, or "Inner Circle" as it was called used it's own stock, until London Transport's flair sided stock took over all Hammersmith, Circle and Uxbridge routes of the Metropolitan.
Nice, concise video Geoff
Thank you! I really liked the video.
Short, clear, consice and informative video. Perfect.
Even when the Circle Line still ran a circular service, it was shaped more like a bottle. Maybe it should've been called the Bottle Line (Londoners, is that part of the city known for pub crawls?).
People do use it for that: circlelinepubcrawl.co.uk/
Short and sweet. I would argue though, that, until fairly recently, the Central line extended to Ongar, which is where my late father's family lived, and his mum used it often to visit friends in Epping.
Wasn't it Ongar from which distances on the tube used to be measured from?
I think you're right about the mileages.
2:49 The Circle Line is now a bottle with its label peeling off.
When I moved to England, the Waterloo & City Line was known as "The Drain." Does anyone still use it?
I worked in the City of London from 1968 to 1990 and it was prettty much "The Drain" to everyone who used it or talked about it. Why it had this well established nickname I don't know, perhaps because getting to it was a bit like getting flushed down a drain, also it had a very distinct "damp dog" smell which was quite unique compared to the other deep-level tube lines and also it had those strange-looking trains with tiny windows.
Yes people still call it this nowadays as it carries many people quickly from Waterloo, the busiest station in the UK, to the city
The nickname is still around. Wikipedia says that the origin of it is uncertain, but it might be something to do with the slope-like entrance to City Station (now upgraded with a travellator) or it might be something to do with the tunnel under The Thames leaking and needing to be pumped out.
The deep level railways through London got the nickname "The Tube", because they are like underground pipes. I suspect that the nickname "The Drain" stuck, because the Waterloo & City Railway was a different thing to the Tube Lines.
Every railway should have a nickname. I like the fact that the nickname for the Bakerloo line got turned into it's actual name and would love to see the Goblin Line get given official status.
@@DavidShepheard I wish the Victoria line had gotten named Viking for Victoria and King's Cross - apparently this was considered but they didn't go with it which is a great shame!
@@DavidShepheard tube came from the literal tube shape of the tunnels. We guess a pipe could be considered as a tube, but more so because the tunnels are round like a tube.
Love it! Always good to know more about the history of the map and its lines. Thank you. Stay safe everyone and take care. xxx
I used to think Piccadilly Line is named after Piccadilly Circus.
The line for the Circus, the Circus for the street "Piccadilly," and the street because one of the major makers of piccadills had his shop there.
Thanks Geoff. I had always wondered that
Yes. The London Transport Passenger Board. Abbreviated to LPTB.
4:07 Geoff you say overground! Not underground 😂😂
I was about to point that out haha
@@EdCoolBoy same lol
Perhaps Geoff knows something we don't. The W&C has been closed for nearly a year, perhaps it has transferred to the Overground and is being rebuilt to run seven car 'S' stock trains?????
@@danand725 well that would make it a sub surface tube, I more suspect that instead they will be bring back the old national rail stock code Rail Class 487 but paint it orange
@@xander1052 Aside from the fact that the class 487's have been dead for years, the W&C will be staying as it is, no need to panic ;)
4:08 nice to know the Waterloo and city line is part of the overground:)
I remember a piece of grafitti around the 1976/77 time not very far north of Ficnhley Road station - can't be more specific this far away. It read "Fleet Line? Don't Jubilee've it!"
Nice little Video there Geoff, also a lovely history lesson on the London Underground, Also when you mention British Railways operated the Waterloo and City Line but did the pregrouping Railway, London South Western Railway and the grouping Railway, Southern Railways operated it before British Railways as well?
It was built by the LSWR and incorporated into the post-grouping Southern.
That's pretty cool dude
Hi Train Stuff
2:57 minor correction Victoria station was not named after the queen, it was named after Victoria Street.
But then what was Victora Street named after?
@@OneKnifeYeHand exactly.
0:09 - but that map has DLR on it :D
As always a concise and informative video, thanks Geoff!
Like the continuation of the Roman numerals at the end, Geoff. :-)
My country's metro system had also the Circle Line with I guess the same colour from the TfL system, a new map came & it's colour looks like it's part of the Overground :P
Wasn't Bank called City at first?
So if the W&C followed the same convention as the Bakerloo... it would be the Baloo Line! How lovely that would be, and also how lovelily confusing!
Bankerloo?
Nice video Geoff
Well thats my saturday quiz sorted out!
That was a good bit of History. May be we could come up with some questions for Saturday. I was a bit surprised The WC line wasn't named after a Toilet though.
They had spent all their pennies.
I'm wondering if the Northern line will really be split into two lines. Would one of the lines still be called the Northern, and the other the Battersea? Or maybe the Northern and......Southern?
Hello there
Hope your New Year will be a very good one.
Thanks again for all the information you give us.
And I still think one is better than alla the others:"District Line!"
I can't tell how many interesting people I've met there, and the stations are... They're there, in some cases not very pleasant, but memorable!!
I love how you get all the city gents and the rastafari! Me? I'm just from Sorkar & Strängar.
I’ve still got two original ones that just have tube on it, I think ones from the late 50s and the other from 2005-06 as shoreditch and the whole east London line is on.
I have some early ones. Mine have Epping - Ongar as the Central Line extension.
I don't have a tube only map. Mine also have North London Line and Waterloo & City (which wasn't a tube line then) on.
Very good explanations 👍👍👍
Well fancy that. That was quite interesting. My line for many years was the Bakerloo.
Now left that to live in Dawlish Devon.
And you all know about that. He He. 14 years now.
And a New Station bridge and serous work done on the sea wall.
Always love your videos. How about doing one on the tube map 100 years ago at the time of the Spanish Flu?
and how much did it affect services?
Does... does this intro imply that the Cable Car isn't a mode of transport?
The Cable Car is a mode of transport and not an overpriced way to view industrial east london as a tourist?
It's an in-joke.
@@photoisca7386 by perchance are the towers that the cable car use 15 storeys high?
@@xander1052 It was a proper mode of transport when it ran to Alexandra Palace and Crystal Palace.
@@stephenrgow very true, but then they made them into radio transmitters, wish they reopened the mid thames station tho..
Has anybody heard of the Walvic line?
Also thank you Geoff for the content during lockdown:)
It's called the 507.
I love this channel!!!!
Make notes, revise hard. Tomorrow 8pm, closed book examination of London Underground.
Probably.
1:27 ...even though it goes the furthest south of any Tube line.
Nice video Geoff.
But what about East London line, it was an Underground line till 2007, before being closed and transferred to Overground.
Self-explaining.
Nice video geoff
Thanks for that! Very interesting :)
Probably a good thing the waterloo and city line didn't receive the bakerloo treatment haha
Another really interesting and informative video. Thank you! I am just wondering who would give these the "thumbs down"? No-one is forcing anyone to watch anything which is not of interest to them. I can understand this behaviour with political videos.... but here?!
Excellent account! Thanks very much 😃
Great video, very informative
Short but very sweet! 👍
It's a good job that they didn't join the names of the two stations on the waterloo and city line like they did with the Bakerloo line.
I could have found all of this on Wikipedia but where’s the fun in that? Great video Geoff, thanks.
Order of every TFL service's inception:
Metropolitan: 1863
District: 1865
Northern: 1890
Central: 1900
Bakerloo: 1906
Piccadilly: 1906
Circle: 1948
Victoria: 1968
Jubilee: 1979
DLR: 1987
Hammersmith and City: 1990
Waterloo and City: 1994
London Overground: 2007
Elizabeth Line: 2015
There was talk of called the Victoria Line the Viking Line as it linked Victoria and Kings Cross or the Walvic Line as it ran from Walthamstow to Victoria!
Viking line sounds awesome haha..
Not sure if you've done this before, or you may already have a record of all of these... but would it be possible to see how much you spend on trains last year or keep track for this year?
- I assume it won't be as much as previous years since we're all trying to stay home but it would be very interesting...
So now all the tube lines owned and managed by private owners or by the government?
Ha! Good question indeed, and one I'm not going to tackle. Geoff, care to have a go?😁
Geoff with another video of "things I'd kinda wondered but didn't know how to research properly" about transport lol
This is my history lesson for today
I think we should come up with a better name for the "Elizabeth Line". Partly, because its not a tube line at all. I quite like the idea of "the Purple line". Or, if you have lisp, perhaps "The Purpeth line" - cos it was Purputh built. Or maybe we should use the places it runs between. Like Reading and Romford - Redrom Line?
So, not counting the cable car as a mode of transport then?
I mean do you?
Haha that shade on crossrail
Take notes, there will be a quiz later
Well this sounds familiar...
Thanks Geoff. Belated HNY :-)
And because the "Metropolitan" line was the first, the Underground is in many other countries called the Metro... or like here in Portugal it is exactly called "Metropolitano"
I often wondered about the name Bakerloo. I feel so daft now I know the origin of the name, it's obvious! :)
I think you will find that Waterloo station is named after the bridge not the battle. The first bridge opened in 1817 and the station opened in 1848. 33 years after the battle.
i couldnt help but notice that u said victoria station was named after queen victoria but it is actually named after victoria street which it is on
Fun fact:waterloo & city line was named after the satations it run true because bank used to be called city
RIP East London Line.. which is now part of the Overground.
The various branches of which still don't go to Wimbledon 😔
How did the H+C fail to get a proper name? Why is it the only proper tube line (the WanC is only a shuttle) not to have a 1 word name? It sounds awkward. It does not work, for the reason you mentioned about city stations, and it's not even the best route from Hammersmith into the City, the District line is that!.
As you show a precedent that the Bakerloo started out this way + got condensed, could the H+C eventually become the Hank line, the Hammy line, the Haiti line?
For its part-circle shape, I suggest Arc line. It would be snappiest of all the lines.
The Northern Line name always feels a bit of an outlier to the others, as it's not derived either from the original railway(s) that built it or from a major station on the route!
That is in part, because it is always broken.
Glad they called it jubilee line...
Made a great goddambed song
What about the old east London line between shadwell and the 2 New Cross stations?
My dad calls the Circle line, the Spiral Line 😂
Re the Hammersmith & City line: Hadn't it been called Hammersmith & City Railway right from the start? Albeit not an independent company.