FAKE Guitar Restoration

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  • Today I talk about fake guitar restorations. Specifically a Fender Stratocaster restoration that I believe is entirely faked.
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  • @UTubeHandlesSuck
    @UTubeHandlesSuck ปีที่แล้ว +707

    As highlighted in several videos explaining fake restoration tactics, note also the complete lack of pitting on all the hardware. Rust isn't something that grows ON a metal surface, it's the surface itself being converted from one form to another and once the corrosion is removed, the metal that became that corrosion is gone. A bridge as rusted as this one was pretending to be would have massive pits from all the metal that had turned to rust and been removed.

    • @DerEchteBold
      @DerEchteBold ปีที่แล้ว +44

      And also you'd have more trouble getting the screws out, cause they would rather snap, happened to me once ...and that bridge wasn't even very rusty, just the screws.
      On a bridge looking this bad the screws would probably crumble if you just looked at them wrong.

    • @StarvingMorlock
      @StarvingMorlock ปีที่แล้ว +27

      I recently cleaned (not restored) a Colt .32 pistol, when I removed the rust on it, the surface was covered with marks like those of acne on a face. Now I can say I have a pistol that matches my face lol.

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว +36

      You guys are wrong. Rust is a surface-only issue. It’s a layer applied by a rust fairy in the dark of night when nobody is looking.

    • @tednugentlives
      @tednugentlives ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@linvesel or a margarine tub with hydrochloric acid for a few hours. Viola, aged.

    • @AVB2
      @AVB2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tednugentlives Better yet, Clorox bleach full strength will rust steel in about two seconds! Leave it for five minutes and it will look 75 years old!

  • @RexVergstrong
    @RexVergstrong ปีที่แล้ว +198

    This is not only a problem in the guitar restoration scene but the restoration scene in general. I've been recommended a lot of clearly fake restorations lately. It's really a shame.

    • @RexVergstrong
      @RexVergstrong ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Oh, and green rust like it was copper is a must in these fakes like you pointed.

    • @Tomislav_B.
      @Tomislav_B. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I bought heavily neglected Ibanez RG Prestige from a guy that kept it in garage. Frets were green all over. But still this video is fake although some rust here looks pretty convincing.

    • @lordfatcock
      @lordfatcock 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Some restorations are legit, but I prefer blacksmith channels. I think one sword took a guy a couple of years to complete 😮

    • @RexVergstrong
      @RexVergstrong 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@lordfatcock Sadly, the legit ones are a minority now.

    • @haydenbeard123
      @haydenbeard123 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yeah lol it sucks

  • @immurerecords
    @immurerecords ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I love the coke part. Many years ago I taught autobody at a community college, and I had a student say he saw how coke removed rust from nuts and bolts. We did an experiment taking rusted nuts and bolts and soaking them in coke. We did un covered containers, covered containers and different times soaking from 24 hours to a week. I can say coke does nothing for rust. There was absolutely no change to even the color of the steel. They all looked exactly the same from the day we soaked them.

    • @AstroRodeo10
      @AstroRodeo10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      coke isn't for rust, coke can be used to remove corrosion on battery terminals though supposedly.

  • @RickBeall
    @RickBeall ปีที่แล้ว +44

    You completely nailed this guy. You ID'd that body thoroughly ... and the frets! LOL. Plus the screws which rust inside the wood. !!

  • @Pheonixco
    @Pheonixco ปีที่แล้ว +289

    The pockets for the tremolo and electrics are pristine too, there's no wood swelling or flaking given the amount of moisture that would be needed to rust the metal components.

    • @StarvingMorlock
      @StarvingMorlock ปีที่แล้ว +12

      I bought an Epiphone Les Paul from a pawn shop, all hardware was rusty the wood was cleaned but the pick up pockets were completely full of debris from wood eating worms and their carcasses, and the springs were very rusty as well.

    • @HiltsyAdventure
      @HiltsyAdventure ปีที่แล้ว +7

      no wood damage on the neck either lol, that thing wood be in bad shape if left basically outside for 10 years

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@HiltsyAdventure That's correct. I therefore store my guitars, amps and pedals on the bottom of a swimming pool filled with sea water to avoid contact with oxygen in the air.

    • @TheVoitel
      @TheVoitel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just imagine how twisted the neck would be ...

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@TheVoitel Ever since I lost my last MMA fight, I only play guitars with twisted necks, they are better suited for my left wrist.

  • @itsalwayssomething7490
    @itsalwayssomething7490 ปีที่แล้ว +190

    The irony is that people debunking these types of restorations are giving people better information on how to convincingly fake age a guitar.

    • @wintlock
      @wintlock ปีที่แล้ว +45

      i see it more as a "im not mad, just disappointed" kind of thing. like if youre going to fake it at least do it well enough to not be insulting

    • @FenderGreg
      @FenderGreg ปีที่แล้ว +16

      At some point it may take more skill to fake one than to restore one.

    • @vinlander8484
      @vinlander8484 ปีที่แล้ว

      Youre giving the general population too much credit. The vast majority of people are idiots.

    • @V3ntilator
      @V3ntilator ปีที่แล้ว

      Well. They fake everything including fake gaming handheld restorations.

    • @michaelwoods9005
      @michaelwoods9005 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Relic guitars have been a thing gor decades now. The ship has sailed on that one, bud.

  • @ashperks2608
    @ashperks2608 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Dude, I've never even considered these kinds of videos as being fake... but now I'm questioning everything I know. Also, love the channel.

    • @youuuuuuuuuuutube
      @youuuuuuuuuuutube ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You were part of the problem. Too many people believe things and that's why there are so many fake videos of everything, and even animals are being tortured in the process.

    • @santiagomoreno1414
      @santiagomoreno1414 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Most videos found on the internet are fakes. Sadly, they are. The least they could do is not claim to be real. The internet is becoming a big lie.

    • @stereotypicalemousername9507
      @stereotypicalemousername9507 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      studio asyl has some pretty good restorations (apart from when they ruin vintage stickers) and they’re all real as far as i can tell

  • @10secondnerd
    @10secondnerd 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This video came up in my feed, and I am so glad it did. Keep up the honest work

  • @Blueeyedramblings
    @Blueeyedramblings ปีที่แล้ว +114

    I also loved how the neck plate was completely "rusted" and "weathered" yet the neck next to it completely fine and clean, looking like new

    • @justaguyonyoutube
      @justaguyonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว

      That's how that would work

    • @DM-rc4yu
      @DM-rc4yu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@justaguyonyoutube No it wouldn't. Troll.

  • @NikkiClouds
    @NikkiClouds ปีที่แล้ว +65

    "it just disappears! he must have asked it nicely" had me laughing WAY more than it probably should have xD

  • @xxlocobassistxx
    @xxlocobassistxx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Since you were asking about YT recommendations, This was towards the top of the recommendations next to a Trogly video. First time seeing one of your vids, subbed now so hopefully I'll see more of your vids in recommendations!

  • @michaelmirabal6349
    @michaelmirabal6349 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm glad you posted this. I saw that video last night and was going to say something about how the body didn't match the hardware in "decay" but the comments were turned off. Also, he never showed the SN on the back of the head or you would have seen MX00-000000. It was hard for me to look at the comments on the second half and see some of the accolades he got for posting such a fake vid. I'm glad you called him out.

  • @Exera80
    @Exera80 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Funny how they hid the serialnumber when turning the headstock around.

    • @timwhite5562
      @timwhite5562 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Meh, that's not all that uncommon. You look at used guitars for sale online and they'll guide the serial number, they'll give it to you when you're hashing out a deal. Though they'd usually cover it with tape or paper, not actually remove it.
      I'd say the gym wrapper hiding the Road Worn is more suspicious.

    • @viking_nor
      @viking_nor ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@timwhite5562 he is not selling is he? He claims it is one type of guitar and the serial number would prove it. Of course that is suspicious

    • @timwhite5562
      @timwhite5562 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@viking_norrelax, I didn't kick your dog. the "selling" inconsequential, it's that people don't want the serial number floating around. It's the same think with VIN#s. I said removing it was suspicious.

    • @ChrisHopkinsBass
      @ChrisHopkinsBass ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And the 5 way switch (very vintage 50s) has a modern part number sticker on it

    • @nckhed
      @nckhed ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@timwhite5562 "Relax, I didn't kick your dog." What a weird reply to a civilized comment. 😂🤦

  • @BaBaBaBenny
    @BaBaBaBenny ปีที่แล้ว +186

    My brother once found an old acoustic guitar in a barn whilst working at his old job. The frets weren't NEARLY as bad as those, and it'd been kept in a similar environment...

    • @voornaam3191
      @voornaam3191 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      But your brother did not pee on it, every week. These "restorers" could have done that. For the right kind of rust. You never know what tricks they do.

    • @Rex-golf_player810
      @Rex-golf_player810 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@voornaam3191 just piss and shit on it and leave it for 90000 years
      Then when restoring it they just use some black magic serum to wipe it all off without any effoet at all

    • @thatotherdan9984
      @thatotherdan9984 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      It's called paint... Who the fucks pissing on stuff to "make it rust"....

  • @fredmahar5431
    @fredmahar5431 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely love your vlogs dude !!...truth my friend!....and happy Christmas!!

  • @PeterJRadomski
    @PeterJRadomski ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for posting this. Excellent analysis. I had a guitar from the fifties that needed restoration. It was just shy of 40 years old when I got it, and was in genuine rough shape from having been left in a basement. That being said, it was nowhere close to the condition from the bogus video you shared.
    Great presentation and breakdown. Subscribed.

  • @rrdee8138
    @rrdee8138 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    Excellent review. You are spot on. I work in home restorations for 35 years. We deal with lots of metals hinges doorknobs and plumbing hardware. We also fake wear all the time. Those brush marks are highly visible great job letting everyone know this is a totally faked wear job thx

    • @EnterJustice
      @EnterJustice ปีที่แล้ว +2

      So doorknobs and plumbing hardware are relic'd as well? Lol

    • @clamdigr
      @clamdigr ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@EnterJustice Yes, in old historic homes where metal fixtures have a natural patina showing their age, it is sometimes necessary to relic a new replacement fixture when one of the originals fails beyond repair.

    • @justaguyonyoutube
      @justaguyonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว

      @@clamdigr not nearly the same thing as a guitar lmao

    • @justaguyonyoutube
      @justaguyonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว

      Also his knowledge of metal is laughably bad, you guys would be shocked to learn how all this actually works.

    • @clamdigr
      @clamdigr ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@justaguyonyoutube And your point is what? The comment was regarding making house fixtures look old to match historic fixtures, nothing more. Obviously that is very different from faking a guitar. LMFAO.

  • @bskitchenriffs6522
    @bskitchenriffs6522 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I just saw that "barn rescue " BS. Everything is heavily rusted but the neck wasn't warped?

  • @mahjonglover3614
    @mahjonglover3614 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I do this kind of guitar restoration every time when I want to play my guitar. Then I found out that I still suck at playing it and I put it back on the shelf again for a year

  • @NeonKnightXD
    @NeonKnightXD ปีที่แล้ว

    I have no idea how i haven't subscribed your channel already. Great content and debunking. The humor is great too :D

  • @SomethingDiabolical2
    @SomethingDiabolical2 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I got that video recommended and was laughing out loud when I saw those green frets. I still watched to the end to see what he was trying to do to make them usable again, maybe recrowning the frets or even a refret. But getting rid of that 'oxidation' with a simple cloth and some polishing compound was the killer for me. And the abrupt ending was just the cherry on top.

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I can’t believe you’re oblivious to the fact that the green on the frets is not rust. Clearly it’s vegetation growing due to high humidity.

    • @SomethingDiabolical2
      @SomethingDiabolical2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@linvesel yeah, my botanical knowledge is pretty poor 😅

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@SomethingDiabolical2 Botanical knowledge is something I always require from any guitar tech before they work on my gear. Given that I store my guitars, amps and pedals on the bottom of a swimming pool filled with sea water.

    • @imoffendedthatyouareoffended
      @imoffendedthatyouareoffended ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@linvesel that’s silly, why don’t you bury your guitars when your done using them for the day?

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@imoffendedthatyouareoffended I don’t bury them because there is not enough sea water in the soil.

  • @ScottPaine
    @ScottPaine ปีที่แล้ว +42

    You can see a circle indentation under the foil where the cnc hole is located. Plus the pencil marking in the neck pickup cavity looks clear and clean just like the cavities themselves..

  • @JasonECI
    @JasonECI ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched that video... While holding a camera going into an abandoned shed and quickly found his target without checking any places else, my assumption was "an arranged surprise" and went on to other videos. And now I see you suspecting it's a fake one, totally agree!! You are very informational!!! Thanks!!

  • @hefoxed
    @hefoxed ปีที่แล้ว

    So I started watching your channel because of following the the established titles too closely, but now youtube is reccing you to me and I've watched like 5 of your videos, they're very interesting even to someone like me that knows nothing about guitars (well, now I know a little more), you explain things clearly and your voice is quite southing to listen to

  • @Resident-of-Pluto
    @Resident-of-Pluto ปีที่แล้ว +31

    There's a video I saw a while ago on how to spot fake gun restorations and some of the same ideas apply to guitars as well, especially the metal parts.

    • @AWMJoeyjoejoe
      @AWMJoeyjoejoe ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Backyard ballistics?

    • @Resident-of-Pluto
      @Resident-of-Pluto ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@AWMJoeyjoejoe Yes.

    • @AWMJoeyjoejoe
      @AWMJoeyjoejoe ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Resident-of-Pluto His is the only gun restoration channel I trust, and I like how he actually test fires the guns when most channels say "the barrel is too damaged to fire."

    • @lawrencesinderson
      @lawrencesinderson ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Saw that video too, which was ironically pushed to me by TH-cam's algorithm.

    • @PaddysOrigami
      @PaddysOrigami ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Ik who your talking about the lad in italy

  • @kevincrozier8625
    @kevincrozier8625 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I seen one guy that supposedly found an acoustic guitar that was "caked" in dirt and mud. He actually not only used soap and water to wash it but used a wire brush to get the muck off. That was the most blatant of fake restorations I have ever seen.

    • @paintnamer6403
      @paintnamer6403 ปีที่แล้ว

      I remember that.

    • @terrym120
      @terrym120 ปีที่แล้ว

      Any link for that video?

    • @paintnamer6403
      @paintnamer6403 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@terrym120 It was the reaction video done by The Guitologist - The cringiest guitar "restoration" EVER video!

    • @gordonhill8164
      @gordonhill8164 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is a digital camera restoration of someone cleaning the highly delicate sensor, mirror and shutter mechanisms with a toothbrush and water. He may as well have used a wire brush because just touching the sensor with your fingers can ruin it.
      But at the end, you'll never guess, the camera worked perfectly.

  • @Takato
    @Takato ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love how everything in the guitar is "rusted" as shit, but the neck is not bent even by a milimiter.

  • @blucheer8743
    @blucheer8743 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spot on! there are a lot of fake “restoration” videos on here it’s actually very easy to “junk up” a piece to make appear restorable… TH-cam loves these cause viewers tend to binge watch them.

  • @TheBoardGarage
    @TheBoardGarage ปีที่แล้ว +33

    I remember seeing Landon’s video, it was great. This is also excellent.
    What gets me, is that the moment the person grabs the guitar, the side of the neck heel looks perfectly clean.

  • @MegaTerryNutkins
    @MegaTerryNutkins ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Real guitar restoration work can be incredible, I watch twoodfrd religiously, Love seeing someone bring tatty old instruments back to life.

    • @jeremysmetana8583
      @jeremysmetana8583 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      That dude does amazing work.

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว

      I disagree about real guitar restoration being incredible. Real restoration is actually quite credible and satisfying to watch and learn. Fake restoration is incredible and extremely entertaining to mock and dump on.

    • @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage
      @slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@linvesel You brought a lot to the convo, thanks.

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว

      @@slightlyaboveaveragebutaverage For you, dear friend, anytime.

    • @Ronilac
      @Ronilac 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Be careful with twoodfrd ... he takes a lot of shortcuts

  • @nicolasbeaudry6158
    @nicolasbeaudry6158 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of your greatest vid mate I really love your humour you really busted them!!! I’m a big fan in general 💯🤘🏻

  • @Bobba_raekus
    @Bobba_raekus 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Imagine putting so much time into faking a restoration that it amounts to double the work an actual restoration would have taken.

  • @gerrykavanagh
    @gerrykavanagh ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Thanks for the detailed breakdown. I saw this video, and had plenty misgivings of my own, but this is next level debunk. Top marks lad!

    • @justaguyonyoutube
      @justaguyonyoutube ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a laughable debunking attempt, entertaining but not even close to accurate especially with his clear lack of knowledge of how metal ages and breaks down.

    • @gerrykavanagh
      @gerrykavanagh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@justaguyonyoutube ok

  • @kennethhoneycutt4513
    @kennethhoneycutt4513 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love the fact you're always busting people on stuff keep it going man much respect

  • @ArtOfficialRecords
    @ArtOfficialRecords ปีที่แล้ว

    slapstick restoration is my favorite genre of video KDH thank you for sheading some light on the wonderful community!

  • @kft590
    @kft590 ปีที่แล้ว

    Absolutely spot on in your analysis. I had commented in the video you are evaluating why would anyone abandon a Stratocaster of any age because it is worth at a minimum of$500 and probably worth more. I also asked how old the guitar was because that would be an important fact to know, so they would run the serial numbers to verify. When they didn''t verify the age that seemed pretty sketchy.

  • @SBeckerDTD
    @SBeckerDTD ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I saw this the other day and was blown away by how ridiculous and unbelievable the whole thing was.

  • @KDH
    @KDH  ปีที่แล้ว +11

    "Rust"

    • @philipm4585
      @philipm4585 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn't know Wood Bodies could Rust but hey maybe it's so old it turned into Metal

    • @TheoAndHisPedals
      @TheoAndHisPedals ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Brushstrokes! A true artist series.

    • @barstow_
      @barstow_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      In peace

  • @tonto9869
    @tonto9869 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey, great vid on this "restoration". So much good information. Just a little pick up on your explanation. You have mentioned a few times the "green rust" (in particular the tuners) on the steel parts. I could be wrong but aren't the steel parts (not the frets) chrome plated? A process of chrome plating includes a plating of copper before the chrome goes on. Once the chrome is heavily scratched, worn or cracked moisture gets in and copper oxide is made, hence the green rust. 😉

  • @rajarahman9823
    @rajarahman9823 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent commentary. I too, saw this video and within a couple of minutes, my conclusion was, A FAKE RESTORATION VIDEO. The restoration of furniture videos, also suffer from this ailment. Keep up the good work and as SHAW TAYLOR used to say, KEEP ‘EM PEELED.

  • @Wrkncacnter777
    @Wrkncacnter777 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Re: Tuners/bridge, they're steel, but chrome/nickel plated. You can't plate chrome or nickel directly onto steel, you need to use copper as an interface metal, so it can, and will oxidize green.
    However, I agree with your assessment, this was not a barn find. That rust looks like the result of roughing up the surface of various parts and spraying them for several weeks with a mixture of hydrogen peroxide and salt diluted with water. The Trem block and frets look like they were painted though, since those as you said, aren't usually iron.

    • @gerrykavanagh
      @gerrykavanagh ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yep. I thought forced oxidation myself. That level of pitting and “fur” doesn’t usually occur naturally, unless the barn this was found in is 10m from the seashore.

    • @blackforestghost1
      @blackforestghost1 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Ever seen a green oxidized chromplated old carbumper? These carparts are chromplated steel, too, but they rust brown/orange not green. Before you do chromplating a steel, you usually do nickelplate it in an electrochemical process. The ammount of copper under it is extremly little, it will not turn a chromplated steel part into green when oxydizing.

  • @stormriderkaos
    @stormriderkaos ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Nice. You can see the foil indentation where the CNC mounting hole is. And the metal is miraculously aged many more years than the rest of the guitar. One way to do this is to place the metal parts and neck in a bag or box with an open container of muriatic (sulphuric) acid.

  • @raymondmorton5105
    @raymondmorton5105 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a guitar tech who works on many guitars, buys them cheap, fixes them, I can confirm this strat wouldn't be this bad off

  • @Bravo-Too-Much
    @Bravo-Too-Much ปีที่แล้ว

    For the record, I have an acoustic from 2005 that sat in a non airtight soft case in a north Texas garage since roughly 2010. Weather changes often here with heat and humidity being involved for most of the year. My tuners have a weird rough texture now, although no rust. It feels similar to dust that hardens over time and becomes sticky because of humidity. Wiping off with alcohol and cleaning agents does not remove the rough kind of texture. I haven’t polished or used polishing agents though. My point being, the texture you mentioned looks just like mine just not rust colored. None of the wood swelled, the fretboard and neck as a whole is fine, and the guitar plays fine. I would have thought the wood would have swelled since the interior is soft and not veneered or protected in anyway.

  • @taLLdavidproduction
    @taLLdavidproduction ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Also if the screws and hardware were that rusted, they wouldnt have come out that easily.

    • @myopicautisticmetal9035
      @myopicautisticmetal9035 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      they would have broken off at the heads and not to mention they didn't stain the screw holes with rust. All of the wood on that guitar was 100% untouched by water/moisture damage.

  • @peachmelba1000
    @peachmelba1000 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I think I'll make a video of me going out in my back yard, "finding" my dog caked in dirt and mud (that I certainly _did not_ apply myself), then giving him a bath, and call it a "restoration".

    • @stevieblunder2656
      @stevieblunder2656 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You joke,but oh the views you'd get. Lol

    • @Tomislav_B.
      @Tomislav_B. ปีที่แล้ว

      Just search "animal rescue" here on TH-cam. They are all staged rescues, in fact animal abuse videos.

  • @mmckee58
    @mmckee58 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Absolutely on the mark. I've been working with some of Rustoleum's textured paints. I think the fraudster sprayed the metal parts mixed in some yellow, and mushed around the paint to simulate rust. I just had to laugh when I saw the turquoise copper oxidation. Thanks KDH...

  • @theonescratchwonder6484
    @theonescratchwonder6484 ปีที่แล้ว

    I actually really do like that scene from toy story and have mentioned this to several people and purchased one of those sewing kit boxes that have extra shelves when you open it. I like restoration videos as well, you nailed it mate!

  • @superlead1002
    @superlead1002 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thanks for the great video! Even though this is a "road worn" guitar, the non relic'd parts of the body still looked too new to have been in that shed for any serious amount of time. The smallest amount of water sitting on the body would have created some kind of damage, especially where the finish was worn away. But I agree that he thought he was clever enough to hide the details that would show that it was a Fender Road Worn body.

  • @jeffleecust
    @jeffleecust ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If you thought that restoration video was real…. You have just got to see the high flying action and drama of professional wrestling.

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว

      Or watch a politician speak...

  • @TheCarlocolombo
    @TheCarlocolombo ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the first time I saw the video of the guitar restoration I thought it was a fake, but I didn't go that deep into it. Your review is perfect

  • @hweeing001
    @hweeing001 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I saw that video too, and I agree with you KDH.
    Thank you for saying exactly what I felt and wanted to say.

  • @wintyrqueen
    @wintyrqueen ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Coke actually can help with rust… not like this, though (there was a mythbusters episode where they tested it, too)

    • @lottieofdoom
      @lottieofdoom ปีที่แล้ว +3

      For sure - It's an amateur mechanic trick that's decades old. It won't bring it up like the car in the video, but it *does* work.

    • @wintyrqueen
      @wintyrqueen ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lottieofdoom I used it on my old Chrome Floyd Rose. It’s not perfect, but I’m not going to have to replace it as soon

    • @ClintsCrypt
      @ClintsCrypt ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I am a welder and I often have to clean rust off of the metal I am going to weld in order to get nice, clean welds. I have used twenty 2-liter bottles of generic Walmart diet cola, which I put in a large trough to remove rust off of 6 foot lengths of mild steel. I use diet so there is no sticky, sugary mess to deal with and it prevents attracting ants and other insects. The key is to leave the metal in the diet cola long enough to deal with the rust without leaving it too long, causing the acids in the diet cola to start affecting the surface of the good metal. It is less expensive to use generic diet cola than to use the same volume of specialty rust removing chemicals.
      Dill pickle juice works well on old corroded and calcified plumbing parts. I learned that from an old school plumbing parts and repair shop.
      Regarding the rusty paint brush marks on the metal, it might be possible that the guy painted a light coat of oxidizing chemicals on the metal. They use the oxidizing chemicals to give things a rustic, antique look.

  • @EchoRabbit
    @EchoRabbit ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm glad seeing so many people calling out fake restorations. It's just a shame that it's not gonna reach more people :I

  • @moochnhowzn
    @moochnhowzn 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I fully agree with you. I’ve been restoring guitars for years now and have never seen anything this ridiculous and especially the magic frett restoration. Wish it was really that simple and quick as it would have saved me hours of hard polishing after redoing the fretts.

  • @phatlyt
    @phatlyt ปีที่แล้ว

    I just love how the springs from the tremolo have no slack.. I recently changed out the springs on my mockingbirds floyd rose, now guitar is nearly 30 years old and that weas the third (as far as I know) set of springs that'd been replaced, I've had the guitar for 12 years now, and the springs really lost some of their torsion in that time being played day in day out whether gigging or just faffing round at home. that one is a big give away for me with "restoration" video's like this one covered here.

    • @milamber319
      @milamber319 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not to mention that anything that would rust that trem would rust clean through the strings. at least most of them.

  • @artiefischel2579
    @artiefischel2579 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    My thought during that video was how could the neck possibly be straight if it was exposed to the weather like that. Also, wouldn't you see some frets loosening from the expansion and contraction of the wood over the years?

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว

      Neck was straight because it was badly bent prior to entering that climate and the humidity bent it back to neutral. Too bad there is green vegetation growing on the frets.

  • @flotenn3351
    @flotenn3351 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In fact you can get rid of surface rust with coke, but you need some tin foil (aluminium) to do so. The aluminium reacts with the phosphorus acid and removes the rust as part of that reaction. You need some scruffing too and it would not work with "deep rust" like the video is trying to show us.

    • @MickH60
      @MickH60 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You don't need foil, coke has phosphoric acid in it, which is in nearly ALL commercially sold rust converters, I've been using them for 40 years, I've used coke as well, coke can also be used as flux when soldering due to it's acid content....

    • @flotenn3351
      @flotenn3351 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MickH60 I always thought the aluminium reacts with the rust, but it definetly helps getting it off..

  • @rlarsen4562
    @rlarsen4562 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was immediately suspicious when the guitar was "discovered" while video was being recorded.

  • @lancemalvey597
    @lancemalvey597 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not even 44 seconds in... and I'm reminded of my grandfathers guitar (cheap strat copy he gave me before he passed from cancer) I looked up one thing special on it to see if it could be made playable again, Instantly after that search I was bombarded by the company who made it asking if I would like to purchase another (Can't replace the fact it was my grandfather's which I told them) only to be met by them telling me it's not worth it and to by another. This went on for 6 months until I lost my cool and told them where to shove it. Loving the fact that you call out businesses like this (which you already have made a video about said brand) keep up the good content.

  • @matthewshelley1365
    @matthewshelley1365 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Plot twist: Landon's video was the fake

  • @ClintsCrypt
    @ClintsCrypt ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hi KDH. I agree with your evaluation of the restoration video with one exception. I am a welder and I often have to clean rust off of the metal I am going to weld in order to get nice, clean welds. I have used twenty 2-liter bottles of generic Walmart diet cola, which I put in a large trough to remove rust off of 6 foot lengths of mild steel. I use diet so there is no sticky, sugary mess to deal with and it prevents attracting ants and other insects. The key is to leave the metal in the diet cola long enough to deal with the rust without leaving it too long, causing the acids in the diet cola to start affecting the surface of the good metal. It is less expensive to use generic diet cola than to use the same volume of specialty rust removing chemicals.
    Dill pickle juice works well on old corroded and calcified plumbing parts. I learned that from an old school plumbing parts and repair shop.
    Regarding the rusty paint brush marks on the metal, it might be possible that the guy painted a light coat of oxidizing chemicals on the metal. They use the oxidizing chemicals to give things a rustic, antique look.
    Great video! Looking forward to the next one.

    • @MickH60
      @MickH60 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100%, coke has phosphoric acid in it , that will remove and or convert the rust, the pickle juice has vinegar which will do the same. I also agree on the oxidising chemicals....

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว

      How long do you leave the metal immersed in diet cola then? And how would you tell whether the acid in cola has started affecting the good metal underneath the layer of rust? Thanks in advance.

    • @ClintsCrypt
      @ClintsCrypt ปีที่แล้ว

      @@linvesel It depends on how much acid content there is in the soda (which brand) and how much rust there is on the metal. I usually leave the metal I use in the Walmart generic diet soda 24-48 hours, checking on it and moving the metal around regularly. For really heavily rusted metals with rust flakes and pitting, etc. I use stronger cleaners, like Naval Gel. But that is really strong, caustic and harmful for your breathing, etc.

  • @flatroc1
    @flatroc1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks so much for you take on this restoration. I watched simply as a type of relaxation or meditation and didn't even really assess what I was seeing but you are so right and I think we should all fight against "fake" content. It's sleazy.

  • @hifijohn
    @hifijohn ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these restoration videos they are so laughably over the top.

  • @jeremysmetana8583
    @jeremysmetana8583 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My stepdad was fond of saying, "you can't BS a BS-er." I myself am oddly positioned in this regard: I work on guitars, AND I build miniature models (tanks, planes, wargaming miniatures), which means I spend a lot of time simulating wear and weathering, such as rust and verdigris. I didn't believe this phony video for a second. Aside from the laughably dumb "finding" of the guitar, it was clear at once that the crap covering it was too conveniently placed. But let's skip all the chuckling I did for the first few minutes, and get to the part where I laughed out loud: the springs, which being rounded and smoothed through the machining process, just REFUSED to accept his "weathering" (the "rust" is just sitting on top, waiting to fall off, rather than, you know... pitting), and the neck plate, which being one of the thickest areas of chrome, would have shown buckling and cracking, if this were real, and only about a tenth of that amount of rust. (Not to mention the obvious brush marks). My son does not share these hobbies, he only watches me do them. But he walked in halfway through my initial viewing, and immediately called the thing out as a fake. Hilarious.

  • @AnthoCMusic
    @AnthoCMusic ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you for this video ! I was pretty scandalized when I saw this """""restoration""""" video ! Thank you for restoring the truth

  • @captainchaos3053
    @captainchaos3053 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thing that gets me is the screws don't fight him at all. I have has lots of old guitars and the screws can be more than happy in their home with no intention of leaving with no rust.

  • @janemba42
    @janemba42 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:28 something you missed. On the first fret it's very apparent that the corrosion has been painted on with a brush, you can see the texture of the bristles and how it has been built up in layers.

  • @jstro-hobbytech
    @jstro-hobbytech ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This reminds me of the acoustic restoration video Brad the guitologist highlighted about 3 years ago haha

    • @bee.normal
      @bee.normal ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That one was hilarious. When the guy just went nuclear and pulled out the power sander.

    • @Tomislav_B.
      @Tomislav_B. ปีที่แล้ว

      That was a proper restoration done by professional.

  • @steveanthrop8475
    @steveanthrop8475 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I watched this video, and was very confused at times myself. You have done a great job of explaining why these things were confusing to me. I was amazed that he polished the bare wood the same as the finished unworn surfaces. Also, how could a guitar with so much moisture damage, have no warping?

  • @localbod
    @localbod ปีที่แล้ว

    As someone who has repaired and cleaned up my own guitars, you are spot on.
    That video was FAF.

  • @RockG.o.d
    @RockG.o.d ปีที่แล้ว +3

    i use salt water all the time to get rid of rust, I mean to antique. (please don't use salt water to get rid of rust)

  • @luken9263
    @luken9263 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Is acidic sweat a recognised medical condition?

    • @UTubeHandlesSuck
      @UTubeHandlesSuck ปีที่แล้ว

      Recognized, known, and not particularly uncommon. The Ph/acidity levels of bodily fluids vary from person to person, and some of us are more one way or the other. Personally, I can't wear copper jewelry at all because barring some intensive clear coating, I'll turn it Statue of Liberty green in under 12 hours. Likewise, I'm hell on wrist watches if they're not made of good quality materials.

    • @luken9263
      @luken9263 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@UTubeHandlesSuck the more you know! Thnks

    • @linvesel
      @linvesel ปีที่แล้ว

      The medical literature clarified that acidic sweat is damaging to guitar finish and parts as it contains sweatic acid in high concentrations.

  • @aaroncurry279
    @aaroncurry279 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Saw that video and couldn’t get past the foil part. Thanks for letting us know what it was hiding. He also put less tremolo springs back in if my memory serves me well. BTW…A bit of white distilled vinegar works great on rusted parts especially if you can immerse them for a bit. Great video, man. 10 Q!

    • @DaveGrandel
      @DaveGrandel 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I second the efficacy of white vinegar. I fished a rusted set of cable crimping pliers out of the lake and they were so rusty that they wouldn’t even open. Overnight in a red solo full of vinegar and the rust was gone and the pliers were restored to their original function. The metal was dark, not shiny, per se, but they work just fine now!

  • @BenCurrington
    @BenCurrington 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Friend of mine found a strat copy in his shed when he moved house. Probs there for a few years. It spent maybe 8 more years in my loft before I got round to looking at it. It looked similar to how this one did at the start, but with none of that crazy corrosion. All it took to clean up was a vacuum cleaner, soap and water.

  • @pee-in-the-wind
    @pee-in-the-wind ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The frets are green because an acid was used to age them. Also Ive been in construction for 30 years and found lots of stuff; when exposed to the elements the dust will harden to the finish and requires lots of elbow grease to remove.

    • @tungtobak
      @tungtobak ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I don't even think that much effort was put into it. You can buy patina on bottle, what was on those frets just looked like the green variety of that stuff slobbered on with a brush.

  • @The_Chaplain_
    @The_Chaplain_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

    As someone who airbrushes models and often on plastic parts that need to look metal, I rust them with powders and paints. It's easy to do but hard to look genuine. This should have been half there because at least its on metal. The frets have definitely been done with that process and yes you're right, I remove the over weathered parts with white spirit and a cotton bud. Comes right off.
    EDIT: Coke will remove marks on that car. Used to clean rifle parts with it to degrease. Makes you think twice about drinking it. (Which I still do)

  • @landofahhs_1
    @landofahhs_1 ปีที่แล้ว

    I completely agree with your assessment of the supposed age of that guitar and the phony aging or ridiculous amount of corrosion. To me, it seems impossible for the body and tuners to have gone through the conditions required to make that nasty corrosion without completely destroying the neck's fragile finish. The neck without a finish would expose the maple to all the elements necessary to cause warping and rot, but it has been miraculously spared...excluding the green frets! Back in the old days we used to have a saying in data processing that applies here: "Garbage in, garbage out." :)

  • @Expedient_Mensch
    @Expedient_Mensch 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree with your assessment of the corrosion, I have "restored" guitars that have been abandoned in a damp garage for years and years, but never do they look like this.

  • @stratnut7146
    @stratnut7146 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah I watched this clip only the other day and had heaps of questions after it was finished, which you have answered perfectly. I love guitars, particularly Fenders and enjoy watching guitar restorations and have never seen techniques like this. I’m presently having my father’s 74 Starcaster restored due to some unfortunate heat damage to the sunburst finish which sadly required some refinishing buy a qualified luthier. This bloke clearly hasn’t had any experience with this sort of restoration

  • @somewhereelse000
    @somewhereelse000 ปีที่แล้ว

    I use two part reactive agents to make plaster casts look like patinated bronze or iron. The brand Langridge make excellent products for this and clearly the parts have been brushed or soaked with the reactive solution.

  • @benplayssongs8849
    @benplayssongs8849 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The high frets often have strumming pick wear on old guitars. So the wear up there could actually make sense. I have a real 55 tele neck and it had wear approximating the "road worn" strat in the video.

    • @benplayssongs8849
      @benplayssongs8849 ปีที่แล้ว

      But the restorwtion video is definitely 100% fake. I just want to point out that wear that high makes sense.

  • @philfichtinger3009
    @philfichtinger3009 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i love how you put this together and described it all. very well done, sir.

  • @davidsmart3514
    @davidsmart3514 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how the rusted components left no staining anywhere they came in contact with the wood or plastics.

  • @banjoman44
    @banjoman44 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent video! A Funny, well laid out exposé of fake restoration. I want a micro fibre cloth for my frets!

  • @mx5534
    @mx5534 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    MORE VIDEOS LIKE THESE SHOULD BE MADE AND GETTING ALL THE VIEWS! FOR CALLING OUT PEOPLES LIES AND BULLSHIT! THANK YOU FOR THIS!!!

  • @liamflynn2653
    @liamflynn2653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Around 5:45, you make a noise that beautifully and perfectly expresses the sentiment of every sane person

  • @robinguitar
    @robinguitar ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for this. I watched the video and I'm certainly no expert, but nothing about it sat right with me. You've confirmed my suspicions. Cheers!

  • @petrucci973
    @petrucci973 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man I genuinely appreciate people who call out BS. Thank you. Keep the good work.

  • @daneguitarist1
    @daneguitarist1 ปีที่แล้ว

    hahaha dude totally used that rust activator stuff, I use it on old boxes for guitar pedals i make, but i dont like... try to convince people its... a real rusted thing, its totally for aethestic lol, dannnng nice catch KDH
    the brush strokes had me laughing hahaha you kick ass bro, great channel!

  • @chrisperyagh
    @chrisperyagh ปีที่แล้ว

    I like how both the trem block and the die cast car are both made of the same zinc alloy and have 'rusted' when zinc alloy simply doesn't rust (and neither does chrome plating for that matter). And then that unusual 'rust' has magically been removed with some sort of fizzy agent or Coke.

  • @brianinski
    @brianinski 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was a Key Scenic Artist in the Hollywood Film Production industry, and this is exactly how we would rust and age things. Once we rusted a mint condition 1959 Porsche and we had it looking like bubbling leprous rust was about to become a hole in the body and fender metal. There was a misunderstanding and the director wanted a "cherry" 59 Porsche, meaning "mint". The Production Designer called from location in Vermont in a panic, how on earth could this horrific and decrepit automobile be restored without embarrassing delays? I told him to take it to a pressure self wash car wash bay and the warm sudsy wash wand would remove it effortlessly.

  • @jackx4311
    @jackx4311 ปีที่แล้ว

    @KDH - noce work, mate!
    Yes, you can remove rust by chemical means, *BUT* you will ALWAYS be left with pitting where the rust was - and there are plenty of real restorations showing this, and how the only way to get back to a smooth surface is to use filler to back-fill the pits, then sand level and paint. Oh, and as the man says (and confirmed by my own experience), when wood screws go rusty, the head rusts, but any parts of the screw firmly in the wood do not.

  • @normanmullinix2931
    @normanmullinix2931 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your hair and that PRS is epic

  • @ghostoflazlo
    @ghostoflazlo ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol
    Haven't touched a guitar since middle school, never watched a guitar video in my entire life but here you are on my recommendations.
    This video was a treat, thank you! :)

  • @namebrandmason
    @namebrandmason 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1) Love that the pick guard screws are totally rusted through, but the underside of the control plate is impeccable.
    2) you can clearly see the cnc hole beneath the foil
    3) I can’t wait until part 2 where he re assembles the guitar and doesn’t even need to tweak the truss rod.
    Btw: if you want see actual gear restoration, check out Uncle Doug.

  • @keefer88
    @keefer88 ปีที่แล้ว

    thank you for actually learning the difference between rust and corrosion

  • @larrybremer4930
    @larrybremer4930 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What caught my eye was the full length of the rusted screws being pulled out of perfectly clean holes in the wood with no sign of staining from the rusty metal.

  • @mfurquim30
    @mfurquim30 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi, you can clearly see a depression on the foil glued to the body underneath the pick guard, exactly with the circular shape and position of the router cavity you mentioned.

  • @EJSjjh
    @EJSjjh ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I appreciate this video because this is something that I probably wouldn't have known was fake