Boston Celtics survive OT scare from Detroit Pistons thanks to Kristaps Porzingis, Derrick White
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ก.ย. 2024
- The Celtics started about as terribly as you can imagine, putting forth one of their worst quarters of the season, earning boos from the TD Garden crowd. But they turned it around in the third quarter, survived the fourth, and won it in overtime. John Karalis of Boston Sports Journal is at the Garden with reaction, including how Porzingis and White were the heroes, Jayson Tatum did other things even though his shooting still stinks, and how Joe Mazzulla's message about mentality is put to the test in this game.
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Derrick white is the most impactful player on this team
Dude took over at the end of 4th when they kept double teaming Tatum!
He and KP will be the reason for our success this year
John you almost spoke this loss into existence with your voodoo. I damn near had a heart attack tonight.
I can only see the future not influence it lol
@@LockedOnCeltics oh, your're nasty 😉
Lol you can blame John all you want but reality is we should beat this team 98 times out of 100. If you havent noticed over the past few years, the celtics choke every "easy" game because they don't take it seriously and after watching the same thing repeat itself over and over again, I don't think they'll ever learn. They play to their opponents skill level and rarely turn it up and play to their full potential. Just clearly isn't motivating enough for them.
@@Barry-Strange well I think John has precisely explained the circumstances why this game haven't been an easy walk for Celtics. And that's exactly what happen. Such games at home against hard motivated teams like Pistons after winning road tour are almost "mission impossible". Glad to see that Celt's find their motivation in second half. This kind of wins are building the necessary winner spirit for team. Go for B#18
@@adidzis I agree, them clawing their way back and winning it is way more a testament to where this team is at mentally, in the past I don't think they would have won. Seems to be a higher level of focus this year
I think it is time to change the game winning shot play call from a tough Tatum contested mid-range jumper to getting Kristaps the ball in the high post for the game winner.
I hope this game makes the Celtics realize that the gap between the least and the most talented players in the NBA is much narrower than people think. Scheming and coaching matters but consistent effort comprises most of it. I'm glad for this character-building win.
agree 100%, this is NBA - any under 0.500 team can beat strong ones during the long season. Thats not a surprise.
Porzingis is capable of closing on any given night. The more I watch him play, the more I question what the heck they were thinking in Dallas.
That is simple. They bought into Luka creating everything. Everyone else is just a role player. It makes no sense but it is what they do.
Luka games similar to harden games.
The center they need is like capela or lively.
Cs need to figure out how to start well in games where JB is not playing. He normally gets going in the first quarter. But games like this are games where the Cs can learn how to fix this issue. It’s good to see Tatum and Porzingis developing Chemistry.
On Feb 12 I'll be in Miami and will see my first Celtics game live against the Heat, I'm hoping to see you John and Scal there!
PorzinGOD dose what he do best.
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19:23 "Oh look at that bald guy! It's not me, it's Derrick White." 😂😂
Feels like they really missed brown’s offensive mentality in this one. He’s the one that leads the charge in transition and pace and attack mentality (along with white) and there was a stark difference in the temperament of the offense without him out there in the first half.
This game is a coaches dream in that there is a huge learning lesson, the way they won proves why he’s basically right, and they still got a win. It’s also a good game for tatum to eat a little humble pie too - if you want to rub that slow, iso heavy, tough shot making offense… we’ll you might lose to teams like the pistons.
Game went live at 12:30am in Scotland, thought I’d catch the first quarter. Had to see that thing to the end, thanks for the 3:30am bed time Celtics 😂
You are a trooper! It was thrilling to the end.
lol I knew it too… Pistons are trying hard to not break the record for most consecutive losses in a row. It’s for all sports too lol so they don’t want that in their archives. Celtics did come out lazy but Pistons kept getting offensive rebounds and hitting shots lol. Exactly what I did after the game! PHEW!!! White and Porzingis bails us out again! Everyone played bad first half! Even White lol he changed his shoes and started balling again though. He ran the grip off the red ones on the west coast road trip!
If the Pistons played like this every game there's no way they would have lost 10 games in a row. To wait until you beat the all time record for losses to wake up is just ridiculous.
Pistons played really hard much credit to them building a 21 pt lead then an installment of Fast and Furious Boston Drift took place. The intensity and mentality to comeback in 2nd half and not MAKE history made this game thrilling to watch. Great response to a terrible 1st half. ☘️☘️☘️☘️💥⚡💪💪Let's get to 16-0 at home
Yall forget the Celtics have a huge target on their backs. All teams play them tougher than usual
When will our fourth quarter execution be something other than Jason Tatum ISO ball... I know you've said this before, but they are never going to win the championship if they're going to rely on this predictable strategy over and over again.
One or two episodes ago John spoke about ego management. That's a problem.
I agree and disagree…. Look at Most other teams. End of game it’s my best guy vs yours. They run the show. Tatum hasn’t proven reliable there, that’s the tough truth. That’s where I disagree. Where I agree, is more that we need to accept that reality and find a new way to do it.. which j think they’ve done a decent job of this year. My fear is that when playoffs come around, we’ll be forced in to “my guy vs yours” more than once.
this is a "bad" win. embarrassing for the C's but i'm glad they pulled it out. 5 takeaways:
1. mazzula returning to not calling timeouts again in the 1st half. he let detroit build up a lead. turns out we had a wasted timeout in regulation that should've been used earlier. refused to challenge plays too like that KP block.
2. i was so glad when we finally stopped going to JT sidestep 3s and went into KP post-ups at the nail. JT should learn to recognize when his 3s arent falling and go to his post-up/drives instead. i cringed everytime JT shot a 3. it was marcus smart-esque. 2/11 from 3 is terrible.
3. they should've gone to KP earlier. detroit kept putting a guard or wing on him like ivey, bogdanovic, knox, livers, etc. if we took advantage earlier we could've closed this in regulation. this was because we played double big and detroit put duren on al/queta.
4. d.white is an all-star. no one i trust more to make decisions in a close game, when the pistons were ahead or to close quarters. yes over the Js. he's the best decision maker on the team. slow start for him this game but i had no doubt he'd pick it up in the 2nd half.
5. being outrebounded surprised me. we played double big alot last night and detroit played single big. lots of ball watching/no boxing out from d.white, hauser and tatum. i also saw tatum had the ball at his feet and refused to dive to get it so detroit got the ball back.
a win is a win. i expect al to sit tom. hopefully JB is back. Beat toronto! Let's go C's!
Porzingis just keeps getting better. White and KP are starting to build some nice chemistry.
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Derrick White is AWESOME!! YES, Brad did great getting him. To me, Jrue won that game with a pivotal play. He kept a cool head , was patient, got the foul and made the bucket. And that was the turnaround to putting the game away. We looked tired or lazy. Every time they quit moving around they couldn't make a basket. They were standing around , passing back and forth. The shot clock would wind all the way down and shots just weren't going down. PP couldn't hit the broad side of a barn. It was pitiful looking. Glad they turned it around in the 2nd half.
I was joking with my nephew and he said it's like we played like the pistons would against any other team and they played like if they were the Celtics interesting take what fo u think john?
I’m disappointed the Celtics are still doing this type of trolling man it’s the same thing as last year and they got burned someone needs to be in Tatums ear and tell him to attack the basket
KP and White are them ☘️☘️☘️
John knew ☘️☘️☘️
If Tatum played like in the playoffs the last seasons the Cs would have a ring or 2 …the 2nd half he was aggressive getting to the basket strong.. not looking for a bunch of step back 3s not driving and flopping around looking for a foul call whining to the ref.. down the stretch on those runs he played grown man ball going hard to the rim
His end game mentality is the most important missing piece for this team. It’s why we had to go and get Kris in the first place. Tatum has all the talent to be a top 3 player, but until he figures that part of the game out he’ll keep knocking on the door of the top 5
If Tatum plays like this in the playoffs it’ll be rough. He had 31 points on 31 shots which is horrible.
If Detroit played that hard.every night, they would not have lost 28 games in a row. I hope they play this hard for a few more weeks & they will win a few games.
😂😂😂😂 u don’t know what u talking about we play hard every night it’s just not enough
@greenecarlos93 Yes, very hard..Except for the very large lapses in defensive effort during important parts of games.
I schardenfreudianly watched that pathetic Jazz game. Trust me, if you played with anywhere near as much effort as you did last night in that game, you wouldn't have the record.
Another good looking stat game for Jason with 31-7-10 but was 11-31 overall and 2-11 from the 3 point line. Again some terrible shot selection in the game. He will need to be more consistent for all to win the championship. I just think his play is being covered up by the others added to the team.
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I was there. I’ve never seen the garden so quiet as it was in the second quarter
I had a buddy text me at halftime to make sure I was OK. Told him the Celtics will come out for the second half in rage mode. Sent him a text 25 minutes later "1 point game!" Lol
Loll I had a Laker fan calling Celtics pathetic because they went to OT vs the Pistons. The same team who lost to the Spurs after they lost 18 in a row. The same team who got cooked during the Xmas game at home! 😂😂 a win is a win lol nobody is going back to check by how much!
Derrick "Allstar" White
This is the difference between Brown and Tatum. Brown has that killer mentality to come out strong. Tatum often will come out soft with no sense of urgency, and has been doing that since college.
Two words: Derrick White. And Detroit’s record is misleading- well a tad anyway. Before last night I did not know Detroit had lost a bunch of their games by 7 points or less. Feeling a little better and thank you John. 🙏🏻🔒
Agreed - still should have mopped the floor with them tho
This confirmed to me that teams wake up for the Celtics. We have a target on our backs based on our history. They might as well have a 27 game win streak, when you face the best, you mentally prepare for that more, you might work on their shots in advance and try to make a statement, if they beat the Celtics, it says that they can hang with the best. When you’re our building, it ignites a fire that you can’t get other places. Media is licking their chops, the best vs the worst, so many people wanted to see Goliath go down with a biblical loss…..the NBA won last cuz it showed that even the worst close out team in history, can still bring the best down on any given night, mostly depending on the situation. It’s The NBA, and all these guys starting on the worst team would still crush/run clinic on the casual D-1 college player in every facet of the game. The margin in the NBA is smaller than most realize, that’s why I watch every game, no win is a guarentee
In short, I'm sick of living or dying by the 3. It's NOT Boston B-ball! This game was a perfect example of what I wish they'd do more often - when the long ball isn't falling - attack the paint and get to the rim, period. Personally, This is the kind of game I've been screaming at my TV for them to have - when the 3 isn't falling, shift gears and attack the paint - and this is EXACTLY what I've been screaming at the C's to do - finally - and what they did to win! Please Joe, remember this game...
that kind of mentality to approach every game with the same intensity, it’s to build good habits down the stretch. your brain is a muscle, and you can build that muscle memory
Blue shoes all star derrick white
The worst play in the NBA is when you miss a 3-ball, the defense secures the O-bound, and turns it into 3 points on the other end, and if that shooter gets fouled on a 3, and makes the free throw, that's equivalent to a touchdown in football - a 7-point swing. John, I HATE shooting 50 or more 3s in a game since a larger percentage of them basically turn into turnovers. Sorry, but I've been a Celtics fan for 43 years and THAT is NOT Boston basketball as I remember it, period.
I think we owe Jrue for this win. He locked Cade down when they put Jrue on him in the second half.
It's infuriating watching Tatum having great production attacking the rim, and then just decides to chuck a bad contested 3 after. And this happens over and over to the point where I see he gets a few great buckets in the post and knew that he's chucking a 3 the next time he gets the ball, and of course he missed
#JohnKaralis, I had NO DOUBT Boston would pull this out
John, do you see any signs that this team's (jays) mentality has changed?
I think Jaylens has. I’m not sure about JT.
Question!
If there’s 10 seconds left on the clock, you need a bucket and you can pick 1 Celtic to take and make any shot besides a layup, who are you picking, what kind of shot will they take, and why do you trust them to take that shot?
White to take a midrange shot. He is also crafty enough to get to the rim.
Brown or kp in the paint. Brown is mid range king, and kp is 2nd best post player only behind joker
Depends on the scenario - I trust d white as a complimentary shot maker but wouldn’t look to him as the primary in that situation (think Robert horry. Tatum is the best player but I think he is way too passive and settles too often on those situations. If it’s a bang bang play where you don’t have to waste clock, it’s still tstum. If he has one option and that option is shoot, he’s our best bet.
If jaylen continues to improve as a playmaker I like him in the middy and if he has the mismatch then kp in the post
Idk how I feel about this win especially that case block. I feel like we got bailed out. It also seamed like Cade was really bothering Tatum which is crazy. How did y’all feel about that goal tending call
Man that was as true a 50/50 call as I’ve ever seen. I’m glad we won but I feel for the pistons there…. Cade had that move completely diagnosed. Tough break for him.
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Objectively, Mazzulla is just wrong about all 82 games being the same. Some games do matter more. Without the losing streak, this Detroit game would have been relatively insignificant- not good to lose, but NBD. The Indiana and GS games were more important.
I don’t believe there are 50 “good” three pointers to take in a game
If you are watching honestly I think it’s clear most of the threes are good, open shots. Just like any shot, sometimes guys force or take an early contested shot.
@@nickgilday8946 ok but it breeds complacency/settling. Going to the basket sets a tone that chucking 3’s doesn’t.
@@CollyKiLLit complacency is a symptom of complacency. Standing and watching happen regardless, that’s a mental thing. This team has multiple guys who are tops in post percentage and dunks etc - I think looking at number of threes is the wrong mentality. It’s just about quality looks and smart shots. Love it or hate it, an open three IS a better shot than a contested layup/dunk etc. I understand complacent concerns but that’s not due to threes. I think we are at our best when we are playing a fast pace heavy transition style, and we take just as many three then too, but everyone is moving and engaged and the quality of looks is significantly better
It is easier said than done but when there is 3 jerseys around 1 black jersey and the ball goes there and that one black Jersey gets it. Also how come every 3 the pistons took was wide open. No one 10ft from the shooter
Tatum tried his hardest to give this game away, is so overrated.
I thought you were nuts at home against pistons no way they’re gonna lose. As im watching I was thinking of you John. I love Tatum he’s a star but to be considered a superstar in my opinion he needs to hit the big shots when the pressure is on. And he hasn’t proved that to me yet. Game on line I rather at this point go to D- white or KP.
This was John’s fault lol
Nba gambling business. Getz.
The Celtics were so bad in the first half that it was great to see the fifth grade girls playing team basketball during halftime. Who knows maybe they got insprired.
Betting on sports is NOT good. encouraging betting in general shows how far we have fallen as a country.
The boos are a sign of selfishness. Terrible fans. Do better.
No it isn’t, it’s our way of saying you are better than this. A reminder to wake up and compete.
You know what kind of fans don't boo when appropriate? Clueless ones