MILGRAM / Kazui - half [The First Trial Music Video]
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 6 ก.ย. 2024
- “Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible.”
Vocal: Kazui (CV: Ryota Takeuchi)
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Lyrics: DECO*27
Music: DECO*27 & Rockwell
Arrangement: Rockwell
Movie by OTOIRO
Director: akka
Character Designer & Key Animator: akka
Key Animator OTOIRO: akka, 1024, roduki,
Key Animator MAKARIA: Ryota Arima, hyein, Root100,
Key Animator studio daisy: Yuki Ishii
Animator / Finishing: staron
Background Artist: MAKARIA, Sakura Haruno, Hiroshi Gouroku, Yoshie Eguchi
Background Manager: Rin Tanabe
Background Assistant: No.734, awashima, roduki, se, NNNuventus, Yatsuki
Composite: akka, Yuma Saito
Project Manager: Iori Majima
Art Director: DMYM
Original Character Designer: akka
Story / Author: Takuya Yamanaka
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Lyrics:
The curse of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart
I imagined that you saying "See you" is the same as "It's over”
Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible
Please tell me what I should do, my heart will float away and disappear
If I were to make sure and suffer, I would rather be by your side
Laughing together, side by side, this distance in our relationship is misleading me, is this what happiness is?
Where did I go wrong, probably from the beginning
The curse of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart
I imagined that you saying "See you" is the same as "It's over”
Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible
Please tell me what I should do, feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear
I could try you, and also try to touch you but you probably won’t notice
I understand that this love is out of bounds, so nothing has to change
All these memories and you Only if I could erase them
All this time till now has hurt me, The scales of my heart has decided to sway
If continuing to hide is called unhappiness, Not even one word will get to you
The curse of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart
I imagined that you saying "See you" is the same as "It's over”
Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible
Please tell me what I should do, feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear
I’m sure nothing will change and
We’ll laugh together and call each other stupid names
So many things I wish I hadn't known, I'm just a coward
What I gave up a long time ago
Why is it questioning me now?
So many things that I should now have known, I'm just a coward
If I were to make sure and suffer, I would rather be by your side
Laughing together, side by side, this distance in our relationship is misleading me, is this what happiness is?
©MILGRAM
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rewatching this MV after noticing that season 2 Kazui doesn't wear his wedding ring anymore like. sir do you have something you need to share with the class
not his s2 song literally saying cheating...
@@FissionCube I doubt he straight up means that type of cheat I feel with the context of the rest of snippet he means in general concept of the word perhaps he never cheated but each day they did not connect with each other an faked it hence the playing house verse they could have cheated each other a true feeling of family
@@senritsujumpsuit6021 I don't know.. one of the silhouettes during Es-Undercover seems to be Kazui and someone doing... something outside
@@lancehackman6304 Wasn't that him standing over his wife's dead body
@@akkoiaane I am talking about the montage that shows their silhouettes doing things in the "real world" (it starts at 2:08)
これ、カズイさん同性愛者説を意識しながら聞いてみると、最初から最後まで彼の事を歌ってるように聞こえる。mvには一切彼が出てこなくて、むしろ女性との関係が強調されてるから印象が変わる。凄すぎる。
yep bạn xem xong mv cat của kazui là hiểu
He’s actually in love with the bartender guys you just don’t get it
gay people rule
AHAHHAHAHA
this sounds more coherent than the other theory arigato hahaha
Why are u geh
Keep your fujoshi fantasies to yourself (jk I thought the same 😂)
0:52 とか 1:52 で見る限り、
奥さんとカズイさんは距離が離れている、奥さん側はカズイさんに関心がないように見える。
だからカズイさんは夫婦仲が冷え切ってると思い込んでバーの女性に浮気しちゃったけど、
実は奥さんは奥さんなりにカズイさんを愛していた。
カズイさんがそれに気づいた頃には
奥さんは絶望してベランダから身を投げてしまったあとだった。
なんとなくそんな感じの物語が浮かびました。ミスリードとか言ってるし。
あなたの心が変わってくれたら=奥さんがもう一度振り向いてくれたら、みたいな。
これ、ポニテの女性が奥さんであること前提で書いたんですが、
ドラマパート聴くと「カズイさんを人殺しと認識できる人間はほとんどいない」みたいなんですよね…。
夫に浮気された妻が自殺したって筋書きなら人殺しと見做す人が「ほとんどいない」ってことはない気がする。
単にカズイさんが浮気してたことを知る人がほとんどいないのか、実は夫婦ではないのか…
@@teniwo 最後のラスサビの幕？、その椅子しかないシーンに目を凝らすと、若干映像が流れてるんです。妻がベランダの向こうにいた所から始まるんです。カズイ妻がカズイさんの前で自殺をしようとして、それをカズイさんが止めようとしたらもう妻さんはベランダからいなくなってるって。
This couple obviously had some terrible communication issues. She thought he was cheating but never told him about it, he saw the growing distance between thought she didn't love him anymore... The ultimate proof that she did love him was her suicide. Now that he's sure of his wife's feelings for him, it's too late to reunite and live happily with her. That's precisely why it's so agonising for him to imagine reuniting with his wife: her death brought him both the ultimate proof and the ultimate obstacle to their love.
That low-key sounds like what Juliet did for Romeo.
Woah, I read this after writing my own, but him thinking she doesnt love him anymore bc she thinks he's cheating, thus a whole lot of miscommunication, which leads him to focusing more on his "dreams" and that distance leading to her death would definitely make sense and feel a bit more like a "murder" as his continued distance and inaction to talk, in a sense, killed her
HE IS TWO FACED I'M TELLING YAHHHHHH LET'S MAKE HIM ROT IN HELL, THAT CHEATER!
God I wouldn’t vote him guilty. He needs to find happiness again and learn to communicate, not stay in prison.
Lol now he gay
catから戻ってきたんだけど
純度100%の片思いラブソングじゃねぇかこれ
青リンゴ
リンゴの全般的な花言葉は、「優先」や「選ばれた恋」となっています。リンゴの果実には、「誘惑」「後悔」、リンゴの木には「名誉」という花言葉もあります。
ちなみに、果実の花言葉である「誘惑」と「後悔」は、アダムとイヴの禁断の果実からきているそうです。
カズイさんの悲痛な表情を見ていると、自分の犯した罪を本当に反省してるように見えるけれど、MV自体が演劇のようになっているから、反省してるように見せてるだけの演技、ってこともあるのかな…。考えすぎかな。
その考え好きです。
故意的に私たちに同情させようとしてるのかもしれないですね。
ないと信じたい…
ボイスドラマでカズイさんは｢後悔はしているが、反省のしようがない｣と言っていたので微妙なラインですね
@@user-bn6of2pr2c あれか、「やったことに対して後悔はしているけど、改めるつもりは、(やったことが悪い事だと思って)ない」ってことなんだろうな。
ワイ氏てっきり「償うべき相手はもうこの世にいない」「親達は自分に対して「もう関わんな」って態度でいる」意味での「反省しようがない」で捉えてたのでなるほー？となった
第一審のみんなのmv見たけど、カズイだけ曲に乗って歌っている描写があって、舞台て演じているって感じが出てる印象受けました…
あと、ボイスドラマで尋問されるのは初めてだと言っていたので、尋問するのは何回かあるのかなって印象受けました。勝手な妄想ですが、カズイは軍服の衣装も着ていたので、スパイ関係のお仕事についてたのかなって
マヒルの愛が溢れて止まらないって言うラブソングとは対照的に、愛したいのに愛せないっていうラブソングだよなぁ〜、、切ないよ…
ボイスドラマを聞く限り、カズイは年季の入った嘘つきって印象があるんだよね……しかも利他的じゃなくて利己的に嘘をついてる感じ
MVも自分を悲劇のヒロイン（ヒーロー）のように演出してるように見えるんだよな
第二審、第三審でも視聴者の目を欺かれたらやばいなと思いつつ、この「どこまで嘘か分からない」のがカズイの魅力だなと……
LINEみたいにスタンプ使えるなら
思ってるスタンプ使っとるわ
あなたと同じ意見や思いますわ
親父と同じでイラつく
私の分まで言いたいこと言ってくれてありがとう…
@@user-nf4rz2gl8k 親父と同じにもう一票。
40代ぐらいの大人が僕ちゃんが(・)可哀想でしょで舞台で自分に酔いしれている感じがまさにそれ。
魅惑の低音ボイスが優しく歌うのが耳に心地よすぎて考察とかすっとんで聴き入ってしまう……
I know most of Kazui's theories have been about him cheating, but some things don't make sense. If he is the one cheating, why does his wife have to be the one to have a change of heart? If he's cheating, why is he coming home with the same clothes he wears on his "dates"? Shouldn't he have had a change of clothes so that he doesn't come home smelling like someone else? If he's cheating on her, why does he wear his wedding ring? Shouldn't he have taken it off to appear more available? If he made those mistakes because he was dumb, that's certainly not the way they portray him in other Milgram content; in other Milgram content he's portrayed as observant and wise (see: when he mentions that Es couldn't be solely responsible for the entirety of Milgram, but rather a whole organization-- being the only one to do so out of the ten prisoners.)
I don't think Kazui necessarily cheated on his wife. I think he, instead, worked as a bar host-- and his wife disapproved.
Notice how at 2:01, while he has his arm hovering around the woman (in a more gentlemanly fashion rather than an affectionate, love-like fashion), he still has his wedding ring on. She seems more like she's complaining about her day-life than anything, especially at 0:42 when how he looks at the woman is more acquaintance-like, whereas at 0:47 he looks at his wife with complete admiration. I do not think Kazui harbored feelings for the woman regular at the bar if he still distanced himself regularly from her at 0:40 to 2:03.
I think it's also important to note that Kazui's song is more in hindsight, especially highlighted by his regretful state in other Milgram content like his voice-teaser. It's not like the other songs that are in the moment (see: Futa [No. 3], Mahiru [No. 6]). So the song, titled "half," is titled so because he analyzes his life in retrospect into two halves-- one with his wife, and another with his job.
Kazui's voice-teaser lines when he "commits" his murder and this cheating theory doesn't make sense. "I'm so dumb... why did I have to dream?" What did he dream about? Getting a harem? If so, why are there only a total of two women in the entirety of the music video? Shouldn't he be more popular if that was the case?
No, his "dream" was related to his job-- whether to be rich, or to be charismatic, or otherwise (which'll only be answered when his questions come out). His wife most likely disapproved of this-- possibly because he came home smelling like someone else every night; a fear of him cheating on her arising. But because he seemed happy and content with his job, she didn't answer the elephant in the room and was simply happy for him. And, in turn, seeing her happy made him happy. So they never addressed the elephant in the room.
And eventually, his wife killed herself because she couldn't take the idea of cheating anymore-- or the fear of him cheating spiraled into depression-- and because she was always putting a happy face on herself for his sake, he never second-guessed himself or his wife. Which is why the song is in hindsight-- he's now looking at his life, and punishing himself because he thinks he's dumb and he should have noticed the signs, rather than pursuing some silly dream.
I think where most people get confused about cheating is the significance of the apple-- apples, in literature, usually symbolize temptation (citing the Garden of Eden story for this). But again, this song is Kazui's hindsight analysis of his own life-- instead of seeing his job as a dream, he sees it more as a temptation; he sees it as a taboo thing he shouldn't do lest he hurt more people for the sake of his own enjoyment (which is what sin is (or should be), right? Making selfish decisions, hurting people in the process?). At 2:15, his bar host self is making a nudge at his current self to pay attention to his wife, who is in the audience (which is why the throne at 1:22 and 3:00 is empty, because it's for her and she's in the audience). And he's surprised because he wasn't mentally ready-- he didn't think he deserved to face his wife, even if she still held him in high regard, so he paints himself as this selfish figure that bit the apple anyway.
At the end of the music video is what confused me a lot. At 3:52, Kazui puts back on the mask that hid his face once more. The significance of the mask is that it implies he had been playing another character that wasn't him-- the charismatic bar host was not, in fact, Mukuhara Kazui, but some charismatic "manly-man" he probably aspired to be. So he puts on the mask, accepting his role and the poor cards that had been dealt to him and his life, only having himself to blame for that regard. One interesting thing to note is that he puts on the mask with the hand that he doesn't put his wedding ring on (he puts his wedding ring on his left hand, he uses his right to put on the mask).
At the end of the day, I firmly believe that Kazui's situation with his wife wasn't an act of adultery-- there are too many inconsistencies with the lyrics to confirm that as the situation (e.g., "If only your heart would change"). Rather, I think Kazui and his wife had a serious bout of miscommunication-- Kazui's wife miscommunicated her own emotions to her husband, and Kazui misconstrued it as her being truly being happy, so he never questioned it. I don't believe either party is at fault-- I can understand Kazui blaming himself, because he's the one on the living plane and she was the one that was suffering while he pursued his dream job.
Definitely definitely. Awesome analysis. Although, something that's tripping me up about the No Adultery theories is that... it kind of makes Kazui seem too innocent? In that very meta sense. I know not all the crimes of Milgram are equal, but he seems so fully uninvolved and disconnected from the death of his wife that there doesn't seem to be much to blame him for... Like, is the fact he didn't communicate with his wife enough of an argument to vote him guilty/un-forgiven?
I ultimately agree that the cheating isn't as significant as we're probably being lead to believe with that apple - but in the back of my mind I'm doubting that Kazui is as innocent as that would paint him out to be? If you didn't cheat, what the hell did you do old man???
Anyway, all the murders in Milgram have been fairly controversial in at least some aspects, so it's likely this is just a biproduct of not having the full picture. I guess a big part of this first round is making your own conclusions and sometimes getting it wrong.
@@tankey8121 I'm... not quite sure if I would call Kazui entirely innocent. Cheating and what he did essentially achieved the same goal-- making his wife feel so worthless and constantly questioning if she was good enough. She most likely did still love him despite the job, which is why she reaches out to him at 2:24. Which means that her conflict was most likely directed internally, hence the suicidal outcome. And, after all, if his "murder" was enough to get him into Milgram, it most likely was his fault. Most people in Milgram don't even see their murders as their fault; thinking it's justified-- Kazui's really the only one that displays regret, so that's why he's portrayed as more "innocent" than the others in regards to his crime.
The only difference between what he did and cheating is that he remained loyal to his wife still, even if she didn't feel like it. But he never once considered her feelings, because she always put a smile on her face for him because he was happy (with where they were, with where he was, etc.). At the end of the day, it's up to you to decide whether or not that makes him forgivable or not. I'm personally voting him forgivable because I believe it wasn't his fault and was just an unfortunate set of circumstances, but it's still important to consider how his wife felt before she jumped.
DECO*27 is one crafty bastard with this one-- it's one that, unlike the others, seems so straightforward (haha "straight"forward get it because most of his pre-MV theories were about him being gay) yet there are so many things that seem so out of place if you take the straightforward path. If there were someone else in Milgram I would compare Kazui to, it would be Shidou-- while a lot of people compare him to Mahiru (because relationship that ended in suicide), Shidou and Kazui share one common thing-- that they "think" they deserve the unforgivable verdict (Shidou's probably faking it though). Kazui does this subconsciously-- he does the same thing his wife did: putting on a strong face "because he's an adult," when inside he feels so guilty that he thinks he was adulterous, which is what is displayed to us through his mindset in this music video.
@@altair2249 That's a really good point - I never even realised how he's one of the only ones to be regretful right from the get go. I wonder how amane's murder is going to be portrayed, keeping that in mind...
Agree with crafty bastardness of this one lol. I kind of got that vibe from Mu's video as well. A victim of bullying no doubt, but a lot of her voice lines make her seem... kinda manipulative(?)... and there were certain aspects of the video that made the reasons for the murder confusing (Especially the scene at the end, where she's standing in the classroom. Literally no clue). I'm holding out for round 2 to make any proper judgements on her, but I really like how morally grey she is.
About shidou - I have a feeling he does think he's unforgivable, but for the wrong reasons. He likely wants the death penalty because he couldn't save his loved one, essentially feeling guilty for her death and wanting to die for it... not because he harvested countless organs from his other patients. Ethics is a delusion indeed.
Your psycho-analysis of these characters is next level lol. I tend to forget that we're essentially getting a window into their mind with these mvs
Oh also on the Spotify profile pictures other than Es he’s the only one looking straight at the ‘camera’
Dejá de flashear gil
＊＊＊＊自己的考察＊＊＊＊(長文注意)
・Voice Trailer[Full Ver.]
カズイ「夢見ちまって…くだらねぇっ！」(一部抜粋)
・公式ページより
「大人は常に本音を隠してでも、笑顔でいる必要があんのよ。」(一部抜粋)
・林檎の花言葉
「誘惑」「後悔」「選ばれた恋」
・赤い林檎＝「選ばれた恋」
・青い林檎＝「誘惑」「後悔」「優先」
・「half」＝半分。中途半端な。
・シーンによって変わる服装
これはカズイの心境を表しているのでは？
①軍服→これからどうすればいいのか教えて欲しい(歌詞「正しさを教えてよ」から)、指示を出して欲しい。空席の椅子があるのも司令官がほしい？
②スーツ→会社員？
③英国貴族みたいな服→舞台での演出？
自問自答する心の中のもう1人の
自分みたいな
・歌詞・MVより考察
0:35 女性とBar。物憂げな瞳で女性をみている＝MVより奥さんとのことを思い出しているのでは？「この距離が幸せのミスリード」＝この距離がカズイの想い描いていた幸せには繋がらなかった？
0:57「どこで間違えたのか 初めからだろう」＝MV中に出てきた赤い林檎の「選ばれた恋」から奥さんとは政略結婚だったのでは？上司(立場が上の人)から「選ばれ」、奥さんと結婚というような。
1:01 青い林檎に気づく＝カズイの後悔が始まる
1:12「「またね」が「終わり」って聞こえた気がしたんだ」=この生活に終わりがくることにおびえている？「またね」は日常でよく使うことから普段からふとした瞬間に終わりが来るって思っている？
1:45「試したり触れてみたりも あなたには伝わらないだろうな」＝カズイは政略結婚から始まった奥さんを愛していた。だが、奥さんは自分のことを愛していない=「伝わらないだろうな」(と思い込んでいる？)。1:08「また会える呪いが胸を縛る」=いつでも会える距離にいるのに、カズイと奥さんの想いの差（＝呪い）に、どうしようもない気持ちになる（＝胸を縛る）
1:56 女性がテーブルにうなだれたり、悲しげな顔をしている＝カズイと同じような悩みをもち、相談し合っているのでは？
2:12 舞台上のカズイから青い林檎を見ろとジェスチャーされる＝過去のカズイも奥さんに想いをぶつけることなく同じ境遇の女性と会っていた（辛い現実から辛くないほうへと誘惑され逃げていた）ことを後悔しているのでは？
2:15「今までの時間が傷を付けて」＝この現状に耐えられなくなった
2:21「気持ちの秤は揺れることを選んだ」＝奥さんへの想いを隠し、生活する事か、この現状から逃げること。
「揺れることを選んだ」=逃げることを選んでしまった？
2:27 奥さんらしき女性がカズイに話しかけていることから、カズイの想いは届いてないことを知った
3:11~ 青い林檎を食べるシーン＝この想いが届かない現状から自分を「優先」し逃げた
奥さんがベランダにいるシーン＝飛び降りた？
「ずっと前に諦めたこと 今になってなんで声を上げるの」＝奥さんはいなくなる前に想いを告げたのでは？
そのことから、もう青い林檎を食した（＝諦めた）のにいまさら…みたいな。
3:28 割れた赤いものは林檎だと考察する。赤い仮面がなかったことから赤い林檎＝奥さんへの想いが割れ砕けてしまった?
割れた＝仮面の意味でもあるのでは？と思う。割れたことから、奥さんの想いと仮面生活の終わり、二重の意味があるのではないかと思う
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カズイと奥さんは政略結婚。奥さんは上司の娘でカズイは奥さんのことを好きだったが、立場の違いから
本音を隠すことにした。（公式ページより「大人は常に本音を隠してでも、笑顔でいる必要があんのよ。」）
歌詞にところどころある、「なんてありえない」。ここからカズイは政略で結婚した自分のことを愛することは
ないと思い込んでいる。しかしこの生活が終わることにおびえており、本音を隠したまま笑顔でいることから自 分自身を追い詰め、仕事関係？をきっかけにBarで女性と会う(Barのマスターが写っており微笑んでいることから、またスーツのため)。そして本音を隠す（＝仮面生活）に耐えられなくなり、この生活を終わらせることを決意する。浮気説が多いが、奥さんらしき女性が責めていない、逆に心配していることから浮気ではない！！と信じたい。またBarの女性を見つめる瞳に熱がこもっていない(たぶん)のと奥さんらしき女性のほうが舞台に出てくる回数が多いような…？
カズイは終わらせようと決意し実行（青い林檎をかじった）したが、カズイに想いを告げて奥さんがベランダから飛びおりた…？同じ気持ち（両片想い？）だったがカズイは過去に自分自身を追い詰めすぎて、「なんで今更…」みたいな。
タイトルの「half」は、中途半端な仮面夫婦＝奥さんはわからないがカズイは表面は隠していても奥底に想いがある(=中途半端)から
半分、「half」なのでは？と思う。
MVが舞台なのは、過去の自分を客観的（＝観客席）から見ていまもなお後悔しているからではないのかなと思った。
途中でできた英国貴族のような服装のカズイを見て、ロミジュリを連想してしまった…。
ロミジュリのように想いは通じていなかったけど、すれ違いが原因で命を…っていうのは似ている気がする。（だから舞台上？）最後は悲恋？
このMVと考察してみて、カズイのストーリーは悲恋だなあって思う。
社会人（多分会社員？）で仕事をするために本音を隠して笑顔でいつづけたら、本音を隠すための仮面が外れなく
なってしまったみたいな。MVにあった家でのシーンでもスーツだし…。なんか人間不信っぽそう。A型男子の特徴で警戒心が強い、頑固で責任感が強いっていうのが
あるらしいから、カズイまんまそれじゃね…？警戒心が強い→本心をなかなか見せない、頑固で責任感が強い→上司の娘さんを任された責任感から本音を心の中にため込みすぎた。そして…みたいなね。
浮気しづらいという特徴もあるらしいから、なおさらこの両片想い説を推奨したい。
そしてBarの女性は取引先の関係者？だと思います！！(そう思いたい)
追記(2021/3/21)
林檎を女性2人に例えてるのかなとも思ったのですが、MVは舞台でカズイの想いを演出していることから林檎はカズイの想い、気持ちを表してるのでは？と思いました。
青い林檎→この現状から逃げたい(=誘惑)
赤い林檎→恋、この生活を続けたい(=選ばれた【恋】)
舞台をカズイが観客として1人で見ていて、後悔し続けていることから奥さんを愛していたと推測しました。赤は愛や恋のイメージもあるため。
普通に浮気だったらこんな舞台でやつれながら(？)見ないのではないかと思いまして…
追記(2021/03/22)
「アンダーカバー」を見返してきました
最後の方のMVの、エスを相手に見立てた殺し方？のカズイらしきシルエットが、倒れているエスをカズイが膝をついて抱き起こしてることから、飛び降り説が濃厚に…？前作のマヒルで殺しには精神的なことも含まれるのでは？とあったので、精神的な面で行くとカズイの本音(=心)を殺してしまったのかな？と思いましたがやっぱり飛び降りかな…？
早く第二審がみたい…
自分の自己解釈みたいな考察だから矛盾多いと思いますが…
自分は両片思い説を推す…！
ほかなんか気づいたことがあったら教えてください…
とりまイケおじすぎね?????セクシーすぎてセクシー（？）
凄いです！！もうこれは答えなのでは…と思いながら読んでましたw
(わぁかっこよ〜って聴いてるだけの私とは違うw)
なんか素晴らしくて頭ついていきません（（殴
解釈がすごい…全て納得ができた…！
最後の一文にもめっちゃ共感です( ˙-˙)
Q:外人多すぎて｢ひーん｡ﾟ( ﾟஇωஇﾟ)ﾟ｡｣って泣いてたら日本人見つけて飛び上がったけどその日本人がヤバすぎる(いい意味)考察班だった時の私の心情を答えよ。
考察すごい…
ボイスドラマを聞いたとき、カズイさんが「取り調べを“受けるのは”初めて」みたいなことを言っていたので、取り調べをしたことはあって、職業は警察官というのもあり得るんじゃないかと思いました！
Coming back to this after “Cat” and the theory that Kazui is actually gay being such a popular idea in the fandom, it seems that, although certainly not as prevalent here, that theory was hinted at for long time.
Not just with the mask, but also the use of the phrase “feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear” and the fact that he is questioning whether or not him being in a relationship with his ex-wife was truly happiness, it seems that him being gay was something that DECO*27 has been trying to hint at since the beginning. “Cat” pretty much further provided fuel for the theory too, so now that he’s been voted innocent a second time, I am wondering where things will go from here.
I fully agree. I thought the gay theory was very far-fetched at first, but now it's clear that "half" misled us, likely accidentally, especially since Kazui had to openly state to Es that he did not cheat on his wife. Half showed us that Kazui had a broken marriage with his wife, and that she's likely the one who died, somehow at his hands. The green apple clearly represented someone besides his wife that he loved, and that plus the bar scenes with faceless women made it pretty easy to assume he was cheating. I'm still not sure what to make of those, as my initial theory was that Kazui was an undercover cop and his wife was part of his cover story. I was thoroughly convinced that he was a police officer, which was confirmed, but uh. it didn't relate to his crime at all, outside of more symbolic pressures.
Paraphrasing here, but Kazui's interrogation questions included one where he talks about his parents, mentioning that his father, like him, was a policeman, and encouraged Kazui to go down the same path. His trial 2 questions in general HEAVILY implicate him as gay. He keeps writing about how he was "born in a way that made him suffer," that lies are "a way to live without getting hurt" and that marriage is "great for social credibility." Though he was named after wishes of being a strong man after a family who he said "must be ashamed" of him and got into a sports university via recommendations after undergoing a variety of martial arts training, his idealistic masculinity was faulted by something he was "born with" and seems to simultaneously 1) wish he could embrace 2) wish he had never lived with in the first place.
This along with Kazui saying that Yuno is both the prisoner most like him and the one he dislikes the most because "She shows me things I’m not too fond of seeing" is interesting. In a Minigram from a few months back, Mahiru asked Kazui what his ideal woman would be, and Yuno directly called him out on lying (without any specifics) once he described a sort of vague image of a woman. With all of this at hand, I cannot imagine a "truth" about Kazui that /isn't/ him being an older man struggling with internalized feelings of hatred towards himself for being gay. He definitely regrets his wife's death (T1 interrogation), but his T1 interrogation also shows that he can't say for sure whether or not he "loved" her. I mean this very literally. He left the question blank! Additionally, the prisoner Kazui is "paired" with is not Yuno, but Amane. I think this relates to the two being the oldest and youngest prisoners who "break tradition" in complex ways and still hold the values of those traditions close to their philosophies after the deaths associated with their trials.
With any other theories in circulation about Kazui, I can't see how Kazui being born in a way that he dislikes and being raised in a very masculine fashion relate to them at all, especially not to the extent that they would to him being gay. Comparing the voice dramas, songs, and interrogations, Kazui seems to still dislike himself, but is slowly starting to grapple with his desires and come to an understanding of what he wants. His response to T2's "What does love mean to you?" question was translated by Milgram Eng as "To stay true as myself, and to be accepted as me." Hopefully, this is what we get from him in the end.
Catが配信されてからhalfとCatを何度も繰り返し聞いている。
りんごで思い浮かぶのが『禁断の果実』
しかし、椋原は自分を普通じゃないと認識しているのでその果実は青い。
禁断の果実を食べた人物といえば、イヴ。
この曲において、顔がしっかりと描かれているのは
舞台衣装の男、スーツの男、ドレスの女、軍服の男、客席の男。
タイトルのhalfを男女が半分、と捉え
第二審ドラマパートの「不貞にすらならなかった」を妻と想い人、両方に対して代替となる人間を作ることすらできなかった(性欲を満たすための男を作る事さえなかった)としたなら
舞台上にいるドレスの女は椋原一威の中にある女性的な(男を愛する)自分自身なのではないだろうか。
仮面が嘘を吐くことの象徴だとするなら、仮面をつけることのなかった顔のあるドレスの女は、椋原の中にある唯一偽りのない『慕情』や『恋情』の化身なのではないだろうか。
誰も座っていない椅子は、椋原の中に作り上げた『普通』で
それに対して自分の感情を訴えかけようとするが、最終的には『普通』に跪く。
そんな風に考えてしまって。
第三審が待ち遠しい。
ほんとにこの曲大好き……2年前は奥さんへの懺悔の歌だと思ってたのに、今はバーテンダーへのラブレターにしか聞こえない。
笑い合い肩を並べたのも、あなたの心が変わってくれたらって望むのも、「お前バカだな」って笑い合ったのも、全部バーテンダー！！！ほんとに奥さんのこと全く好きじゃなかったのが伝わって、めっちゃ好き。
誰かの役に立てたら。
公式ページ引用
「大人は常に本音を隠してでも、笑顔でいる必要があんのよ。
きみたち若者に失望されないようにね。」
カズイ/椋原一威
CV:竹内良太
ミルグラムの面々の中で最年長の中年男性の囚人。
飄々としており、場を和ますための冗談を口にすることも多い。体格は長身でスマートながらも筋肉質。なにかしらの格闘技の経験があるらしい。
集団の中では柔和で楽天的な人物のように振る舞うが、看守との個別の面会ではまるで何かを観察するような目線でジッと睨みつけてくる得体のしれなさがある。
性別＿＿＿＿男
年齢＿＿＿＿39歳
身長＿＿＿＿186cm
血液型＿＿＿＿A型
誕生日＿＿＿＿8月5日
←（カズイの誕生日の後日誕生日の人。）
“Adults often hide their true feelings.”
Late response, and this will probably get ignored or buried, but I figured I’d give my personal thoughts because I personally don’t buy the prevalent theory that he cheated.
To sum it up, I think Kazui’s wife’s suicide was not caused by infidelity, but by a severe lack of communication in their relationship.
“Adults can't just go and do whatever they want.” “What I gave up long time ago / Why is it questioning me now?” “Why did I have to dream?”
I think Kazui wanted some sort of life that his wife couldn’t grant him; Perhaps he was starting to regret living a plain, normal, domestic working life where he didn’t have much time to himself beyond his wife/obligations and missed the freedom of his youth to live out his unfulfilled dreams while he could.
Remember, not everything in Milgram is meant to be taken literally. The scenes where he’s well-dressed and chatting with others at a bar don’t have to mean he visits a bar without his wife, it could just be a representation of the sort of life he wants and imagines he could have without her- Maybe a grand one, untethered by responsibilities, where he’s charming and well-liked, something of the sort.
Otherwise, what did he give up… His single card? And what was his dream, to have a smoking wife? It either doesn’t make sense in the lens of him cheating, or makes him look extremely shallow, which I frankly don’t really think was the intent.
“If only your heart would change” “I imagined that saying ‘see you’ is the same as ‘it’s over’”
Despite all this, Kazui genuinely loves his wife, and she loves him back, so it eats him up inside. His interactions with his wife seem a lot more genuine and intimate than the woman at the bar (who feels more like an acquaintance or friend, and he does brush her off of his shoulder…), such as 0:47 and 2:33, and he obviously feels extreme regret over bringing his wife harm. He feels guilty about having thoughts that she is in any way a burden in his life, so he secretly thinks that it’d just be easier if she stopped loving him, or maybe even if they weren’t married at all.
I don’t think the theater and masks mean duplicity and deception, but emotional masks and playing roles. He pretends nothing is wrong and keeps being a normal, proper husband so they can live a happy life together. While it keeps things peaceful, it doesn’t resolve anything because the distance between them grows as he doesn’t talk about his problems with his wife. He considers it, but he’s too much of a “coward” to talk about his feelings with her or calls himself one for even having these thoughts at all, so he worries it won’t lead anywhere. On the other hand, his wife can sense that something is evidently wrong, but she doesn’t talk about how not knowing what he’s thinking is bothering her, leaving her to imagine the worst- That he doesn’t love her anymore and probably has another woman occupying his affections, or something. He doesn’t realize it’s causing a rift in their relationship until it’s too late, wishing he noticed sooner and just swallowed his feelings. Or perhaps he did talk to her, but she took it badly, so he wishes he was just strong enough to keep lying to himself if it meant their marriage could continue normally.
Anyways, he’s having second thoughts; About his life, about commitment, and he’s caught between these conflicting feelings of feeling he could do greater things for himself without his wife but still loving her dearly, all the while trying to conceal this from her and being unaware of the strain it’s putting her through. Though he doesn’t fully realize that he doesn’t necessarily want her gone, either, until she is.
It’s also worth noting that he puts the mask back on at the very end, so he’s once again pretending that he doesn’t feel all this guilt and regret over his wife : (
this is my favorite theory
this is actually a very nice theory. im glad people remember everyone in milgram is meant to be an unreliable sometimes cryptic narrator
I felt sadder for Kazui while reading this T_T
In his interview tho, Kazui mentions that he wishes that "he should have just piled up his lies", so he likely confronted his wife at one point and got honest with her- which was likely the trigger for her death- so it's probably the latter where he did talk to her and she took it badly :(
He also mentions that he's not sure if he wanted to be forgiven, but he does want his weakness to be accepted... so his wife probably didn't 'accept him'?
No this wasnt supposed to be ignored , thanks for sharing
I like how detailed it is compared to other theories and the thing is this makes sense, nice theory!
27さんにはボカロの方でもこんな雰囲気の曲を出してほしいです。MILGRAMの曲聴いてると思うけどやっぱり27さんって多才すぎる…。
kazuis voice is so smooth they should release cat as an asmr video i wiuldnt even mind
i think i actually would’ve passed away if they did that i am already at deaths door after watching his second trial mv 😵💫😵💫
His second trial mv HURT me I wish it was asmr instead
@@fireworksforme2 UR RIGJT
@@alfiepancakezz his hungry ass could never work at a bird sanctuary
@@hermitmizuenaLMAOOO
I’m literally in love with this song and the fact this doesn’t have an Es cover is fucking criminal tbh
IKRR the milgram fandom really did this song dirty by not giving it 1m views😭😭
@@backdraftcel YEAAAA
I’m holding onto faith that it will come out someday, if it does I will combust
It’s already past 1m views now and I think the reason why it doesn’t have an Es cover is because the vocals are too low pitch
@@LanieMae Oh Dayum that’s a shame😔
But then again you could always just make it a higher pitch
@@LanieMaeIt could also be because of a time limit reason. For example, if the songs had to get 1M views before the second trial started. It’s unfair, but it would make a bit more sense, since HARROW don’t have an Es cover, either, and both Amane and Mikoto seem to be fan favourites, so they don’t have to worry about getting below 1M views
Am I the only one who thinks that instead of love for the theme of Kazui and Mahiru, I think ‘attention’ is more appropriate?
Kazui didn’t pay attention to his wife, and that killed her; Mahiru paid too much attention to her boyfriend, and that’s what killed him.
this!!
Ooo that makes more sense! Clever
idt defining it as 'attention' would be the way to go but i see ur point
Kazui and mahiru aren't paired up , so they don't really have an official pairing
The general idea is shidou and mahiru are devotion, sacrifice , or love
And kazui and amane are faith or promise
May I just say, you worded this beautifully like it sounded so philosophical and stuff
When you're so early that you don't understand shit without people's theories.
lmao ikr... the fan girls in the live chat tho, all i see is "daddy"
i don't understand anything either lmao
Raises hand slowly me
lololol it takes a while but eventually you get there
@@platsew912 wait what
最初見たとき皿が割れてるシーンからカズイさんはDV夫で奥さんがメンタルに限界迎えたから飛び降りちゃったのかなって思ってたんだけど、今見ると赤い皿が割れてるシーンは、奥さんが死んじゃったのを表してるのかな。その様を見て悲しんでるようにしてるけど、最終的には「演技しなくていいんだ」っていうカズイさんの仮面を外す動きで終わるこのMV本当に好きすぎる
I think that despite everything, Kazui did love his wife, but maybe not in the way he "should" have. His lamenting songs make me feel bad for him.
とりあえず伏線とか内容とか一切考えずに魅力的な低音ボイスを耳に染み込ませたくて延々リピートする我である←
考察サイト見て、宮沢賢治の｢永訣の朝｣がカズイのボイスドラマの｢剔抉の夜｣のオマージュって言ってて捉え方がだいぶ変わった。前は黒髪が奥さんで茶髪が不倫相手かなって思ってたけど、今じゃ黒髪が妹で茶髪が奥さんに見える。これ気づいた人ホントすごい………。
｢永訣の朝」のテーマって｢兄妹」｢悲しみ」｢祈り」が詰め込まれた作品やからカズイさんと奥さんは実は兄妹でお互いが好きで好きで堪らなくて付き合ったっていう禁断の恋だと予想出来ますね
カズイさんの職業ってなんなんだ、、、絶対それが鍵になってくるでしょ、、、スパイ、マフィア、公安あたりかなぁ、、、
kazui deserves more attention honestly...
He is my favourite🌚
After coming back and listening to this I agree...
istg why do i cry because of kazui's mv, it hits different than the other mv, even tho his story doesnt have any relation to my life what so ever to make me symphatize with him
Can relate. The feeling of loss and regret is so well expressed with the melody and the voice itself you can almost feel it happened to you. This is my personal favourite and the one that hits the most in my emotions.
OHHH, YOU'VE BEEN FOOLED MY FRIEND, DON'T BE FOOLED BY THAT TWO FACED CHEATER!
@@teoxonkrisnane.2066 honestly i don’t think he cheated
I rarely cry at music but this genuinely tear me up:(
@@teoxonkrisnane.2066 I don't think he cheated, I think he's just gay mate
Watching this so many times made me realize, I don't think he cheated but more likely just him "falling out of love". this is highly indicated by the lyrics "The scales of my heart has decided to sway", and "this distance in our relationship is misleading me, is this what happiness is?" questioning his feelings.
-the lyrics "The curse of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart" is him saying that being with his wife is painful for him/he doesn't want to be with her since he doesn't love her or doesn't feel the same as her anymore.
-"I imagined that you saying "See you" is the same as "It's over”" is just him imagining her to say "it's over" as in ending the relationship as easily as like saying "see you". Combined with "Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible" is also implying he wants her to not love him anymore as well.
-"All these memories and you Only if I could erase them" is really self explanatory in itself.
-him calling himself a "coward" in this song and his cover song of "coward mont blanc" and the idea of "hiding/lies", is just him no being able to say what he truly feels now about his wife. because she might not take it easily (which mainly led to the miscommunication aspect).
-in the mv, I don't think he cheated, because at the bar we see him feeling uncomfortable when the other lady was leaning on him even to the point of leaving her at the bar (also does not make sense why he wears his ring and the same clothes if he did cheat) This correlates to another line in coward mont blanc about the "contract" meaning, even though he doesn't love his wife anymore he still is "technically married" to her and feels bad for her but he can't help what he truly wants (to leave the relationship).
-the symbolism of the mask refers back to the idea of hiding/lying/faking. the green apple, on the internet, usually symbolizes friendship(or relationship in general?) and it being broken at the end meaning that the relationship is over since she obviously died. The idea of him not loving her anymore/wanting to leave the relationship/even probably thinking he cheated on her(due to miscommunication) caused her to take her own life.
-It also matches some of his voiceline "I'm so dumb... Why did I have to dream?" and about "his lie".
There are theories about him being gay as well, which is quite probable (since he is also my most favorite character and that'd be nice XD). But idk. This is just my theory though, also I'm quite bad at voicing my ideas so bear with me (LOL).
OMG You did cook with this comment LMAO, In cat he is like 95% sure he is gay and well if he only married her for social acceptance then all You said here is true.
サムネ…映画館かな？
人生の思い出映像でも見てそうな雰囲気
(声良すぎ。芯のある低音の周りに柔らかい音がある。伸び綺麗。)
※不完全燃焼考察
[公開前考察]
なんも分からん。
[公開後考察]
林檎の花言葉
全般『優先』『好み』『選択』
実『誘惑』『後悔』
林檎と言えばアダムとイブですね。
赤と青の違いがあるのかは調べられませんでした。
(返信を参考に考えましたが納得の行く結論に至れませんでした。すみません。)
演劇…いろんなキャラクターの人生を演じる事…
席に座って今までの出来事を観てるこの行動の意味はわかりかねる。
Barと家の女性が違う
→不倫？
不倫の判断基準ってなんなんだろ。
調べた。
配偶者以外の異性と「継続した不貞行為」が行われていたら不倫と言われるらしい。
一度きりの不貞行為は不倫とは言えないらしい。
他にも、
•キャバクラ等の風俗
•性的関係の無い異性との関係(食事だけ、デートだけ)
•同性愛
は不倫とは言えないらしい。
…まぁ信頼を裏切るのは違うと思いますけどね。はい。
このMV見る限りカズイさんは不倫してないね。本人の心は置いといて。
仮面は本音を隠してるって事を表してる。
奥さんといる時の自分と女性といる時の自分を演じてる事を表してるのか。
1:02
奥に人のシルエット。黒だから見逃してた。
奥さんかな。
だとしたら奥さんとの距離より林檎の距離の方が短いね。
カズイさんが２人の女性に寄せる想いの距離かな。
3:15,3:23
ベランダか？
奥さんがいなくなる。
飛び降りたってことか？それともただいなくなっただけか。
3:28
これはなんだ？何が割れた？
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サビの歌詞は女性に対して言ってる？
てかこの曲基本女性に対する曲か？
カズイさんは女性に好意を持ってたが女性がカズイさんに対してどういう気持ちを持ってるのかは確認出来ないでいた。
「あなたの心が変わってくれたら」の“あなた”はどっちに対して言ってる？
カズイさんはずっと前に女性を諦めた。でも忘れられないでいた。
ミスリード(mislead)
意味『人の誤解を招く』『判断を誤らせる』
『人を欺く』
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だんだん考察の難易度が上がってくミルグラム
鬼畜…！
言い回しがトリッキー。
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現在のカズイさんは左目が隠れてるので過去を見ないようにしていますね。
左手薬指の指輪はアニバーサリーリングと呼ばれ、「愛と絆を深める、願いを実現する」と言う意味がある。
あとはMVの観客席ですね。
『half』は1/2、どちらを選ぶかを意味してるのか。
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あぁ…ヒントが、少ない…進むにつれヒント減ってってる様な…w
現に考察量今までより少ないし。
はぁ…これじゃあ赦す赦さないの判断出来ないよ…
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開始早々反逆行為wフータに聞いたのか。確かにフータもやってたね〜。
あなたのMVも情報少ないですよ。
看守から囚人へ攻撃できる出来ないかはハルカとシドウさんの回で明らかになってましたね。
さすが最年長。聡明。
なるほど。
なるほど。確かに。
「ミルグラム」は謎だよね。
面白いな。
臆病に見られるのが良かった？エスの指摘的を得てるね。すご。
大人って大変なんだね。
それが子供騙しってやつか〜。
エスの考えってなんでそんなに的確なんだ？ずっと思ってたんだけどさ。
いつも良いところでTime Upするよなw
なんの格闘技やってたんだろ…？
仮面を外してほしいと思いますが皆何かしらの仮面を着けてるのでそれは無理でしょうねぇ。
(あと自分は“子供”なのでなめた発言はイラッとしますね。シドウさんの回でもイラッとしました。
危うく感情で判断するところでしたよ。)
(↑VoiceDrama聞けば分かると思うんで兎に角聞いてください)
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VoiceDramaはどれも話が難しくて聞く能力の低い自分には難しい。でも聞かなきゃ分からない事もある。聞く価値があるから聞く。文字におこせなくてもその人がどういう人なのかを掴めれば良い。それで解釈を深めれればもっと良いね。
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竹内さんは歌うにあたって「感情が滲み出る位にした」そうです。(インタビューより)
…確かに。
職業じゃなくて、心象風景としての表現かな～って思いました、けど何らか思い入れはありそうですよね、みるのが趣味だったとか、学生時代やってたとか
参考にどうぞ♪
青りんご（青リンゴ）とは、りんごを未熟なまだ青い状態で収穫したもの。
もしくは、熟しても青や緑のまま赤くならないりんごの品種。有名なのは王林など。
3:12 あたりで青リンゴを齧る口元が映ってるので、もしかしたら誘惑に負けてる可能性もありますね…多分
心の浮気はしてそうな感じはします
「ずっと前に諦めたこと
今になってなんで声をあげるの」
って歌詞から茶髪の方が過去に好きだったけど諦めた女性だったようにも見えます…
個人的な解釈でした🙇♀️
ミルグラムの皆は誰かを殺してるはずだから多分奥さんはいなくなったというより自殺しちゃったのかなと思う
マヒルぶりですね！
ここ以外のコメントは追記後もまだ見ていないです。コメント引用させてもらっています。変なところがあっても基本脳死の人だから許して(´；ω；｀)
以下自分の想像 長文ごめんm(_ _)m
Twitterに上がっていたイメージ絵は赤い女性が後ろから抱きついていたので、カズイさんが は恋に囚われているのかな。
カズイさんは自分のことが好きだと言ってきた女性と交際してそのまま結婚。しかし友情以上の恋、愛情と言えるような感情は芽生えていなかった。｢どこで間違えたのか初めからだろう｣がここかな？
臆病だからそのことをバレないように生活→愛の仮面をつけ、妻に合わせていた。｢嘘に染まった想いは浮かんで消える｣
その後妻を愛せるように｢試したり触れてみたり｣したけど変わらなかった。｢あなたに伝わらないだろうな｣妻はカズイが自分のことを好いていると思ってるのでそもそも分からない。
しかし、バーで服装から水商売？の女性と出会い恋に落ちる。別れなければと思いながらもミスリード、『判断を誤らせる』。
｢今までの時間が傷〜あなたには届かない｣そして妻へ気持ちが伝わらないまま過ぎ、どんどん気持ちが女性に傾いていく。
｢あなたの心が変わってくれたら、なんてありえない｣は妻の自分への気持ちの度合い、｢くれたら｣は臆病だから自分から切り出すのが怖いのを表してるのかな？
3:14イケナイオ・ト・ナになった
だけれど、{体を重ねた関係(ハグだよ！)なのに女性を『欺いた』ままだと悪い(既婚者だということは言っていないから)、このままじゃダメだと思い}妻に別れようと言うことに成功。｢今になってなんで声(そんなこと)を上げる(言う)の｣と妻が言う。ここの理由は3:18でカズイさんが妻の元から去ろうとしているので妻がカズイさんに手を伸ばしている。
離婚話がショックでカズイさんを愛していた妻はベランダから飛び降り自殺。
3:28は青林檎がバーの女性を表してると思ったので、反対の赤林檎。妻が死んだから割れているのかなと。
追記：{}←ここは何か納得できないので後で変えるかも。
自分で長文書いてから身に染みてわかるコメ主の凄さよ。自分で書いてると書きたいものの斜め上に行ってる気がする。
I need more understanding on the 2nd MV by returning to the 1st MV
Now I have more questions than answers
指輪してるから多分家っぽいシーンは奥さんとのシーンだと思うんですが、なんとなく距離があるような気がします…。
ただ、他の方が書いてらっしゃるように「奥さんはカズイさんを愛していないわけではなく、奥さんなりに愛していた」んだと思います。
でも、カズイさんはバーで出会った女性が好意を全面的に表に出してくるのを見て、「妻はもしかしたら自分を愛していないのかもしれない」とか思っちゃったのかな…。
もし「確かめて」いたならば、ちゃんと奥さんとの愛を信じられたのかもしれないけど、臆病だから万が一苦しむことになったら…と考えてしまって結局浮気に走って。
「ずっと前に諦めたこと」▶奥さんに、バーで会った女性くらい好意を全面に出してもらうこと？
「なんで今になって声をあげるの」▶自殺するくらい自分を愛してくれていたなら、どうして生きてるうちに言ってくれなかったんだ(＆自分はどうして愛を確かめられなかったのか)
「知らないほうがいいことだらけ」▶いっそのこと奥さんが自分を愛していなければ、こんな苦しくならなかったのに…という気持ち？
カズイさんの「苦しみたくない臆病さ」が、結局1番の苦しみを生んでしまったのかなあと感じました。
乱文なので多分そのうち編集済みになると思いますｗｗ
また、他の方のコメントを全て読んだわけではないのでもしも被っていたら申し訳ありません。
あ、奥さんが自殺云々のくだりは完全に私の根拠の無い想像に過ぎませんので…！
PVからの考察というよりは、歌詞からの考察がほとんどです😢
あくまでひとつの意見として捉えて頂けると幸いです😂
バーのところでわざわざ描かなくてもいいバーテンダーが描かれてるし、CATでも結婚式で拍手してる真ん中の人がバーテンダーらしき人だしバーでの告白の時カウンター側向いて言ってるからバーテンダーがカズイの想い人じゃね？ってなってるんだけどどう？
カズイおじ様推しでこの曲もめちゃ好きなのに1:02にリンゴの奥に人っぽいのが居るの今気付いて泣きそう
estuve buscando a alguien que hubiera visto eso. es dificil decir que es esa figura.
やっぱりバーのマスターと、CATの結婚式場の真ん中で拍手してた人は同一人物なんだよなぁ……0:38
結婚式に来てるってことはお嫁さんの身内？
これってずっとカズイさんが過去に囚われてることも現してるんかな。
過去の自分が上演されてそれを今のカズイさんが見続けているところ。まるで過去を映画の1本のようにずっと。そして、最後は現在のカズイさんが舞台に立っていた。全ての上演が終わり、現在のカズイさんの人生を表してるのかな。
長文ですが自分なりの考察です。
カズイは根っからの浮気性、それ故嘘をつき慣れており、普段のアメリカンドラマのような喋り方も演技、本性はほぼ誰にも見せない。
MVの映像監督さんがTwitterで「舞台といえば、演技」と仰ってたり、カズイが曲中で仮面をつけていたりするところからも伺えます。
ちょこちょこ出てくる青いリンゴは「青春の象徴」らしく、1番と2番に出てくるバーの妖艶な女性は「青春時代に憧れた、恋した女性」なのではないかと。曲の後半にある「ずっと前に諦めたこと今になってなんで声をあげるの」という歌詞も、バーの女性への思いは過去に諦めたのに、、、という意味合いがあるのかなと感じました。1番途中で出てくるポニーテールの女性は家に場面が切り替わるので、カズイの妻であることがわかります。ここから、「カズイは既婚者でありながら他の女性と不倫をしている」ことが断定できます。他の方がTwitterで女性が飲んでるカクテルの意味を調べていたのですが、そこからもカズイが明確な意思を持って不倫をしていたことが断定できます。
また、CDのジャケット、カズイの頭付近に黄色い花がたくさん咲いています。はっきりとは見えませんが、恐らくミモザの花。黄色いミモザの花言葉は、「秘密の恋」。2番の「はみ出した恋」というワードもあるので、ここにもカズイの不倫が暗示されていると思います。
1番のAメロの歌詞
「確かめて苦しむならば このままであなたの側にいて 笑い合い 肩を並べて この距離が幸せのミスリード」
これはカズイの妻視点の言葉だと思います。カズイが不倫していることを確かめて、その事実に苦しむくらいならば、このままでいるほうが幸せだと思ってた、でもそうじゃなかった(＝ミスリード)
繰り返されるサビの歌詞
「あなたの心が変わってくれたら」
これもカズイの思いに見せかけて、妻側の言葉なのではないかと。「あなたの浮気性が直ってくれたら、、、」と願う妻に、「それはありえない、俺はずっとこうだから」と言ってるように聞こえます。
曲を通して、カズイが浮気性である自分の所業の言い訳を耳障りのいい言葉を使いながら延々としてるように聞こえました。なんなら、曲解かもしれませんが、「俺は昔からこうで、こっちだって辛いんだよ」みたいに被害者面すらしてるようにも感じます。
ボイスドラマでカズイの人殺しは、刑法的に殺人罪にあてはまらないような、「広義の殺人」であることが言われていました。そのため、「不倫と、そのために重ねた嘘によって妻を精神的に病ませ、自殺に追い込んだ」というのがカズイの罪かと思います。
ガバガバな考察&乱文失礼しました。
私は自分のこの考察が正しいのなら、赦すことはできないと思いました。
早くもっと本性を曝け出したカズイが見たいです。ボイスドラマのタイトルにある「剔抉(てっけつ)」は、暴き出すという意味があるそうです。彼にぴったりですね。
3:45
奥さんが自殺したことが悲しくて俯いているのかと思ってたんだけれど、よく見たら仮面をつけてた…
悲しそうな顔はするけど泣いたりしないの、意外と潔いんだなあと思って…
でも奥さんの顔が描かれてないからそもそも眼中になかったとも取れるんだよな
本当は凄く悲しいけれど悲しむ顔を周りに見せたくないから仮面をつけてるのかなって思います。
これはバカ（私）の考察なので。
カズイのMV「half」はこのプロジェクトで最もリラックスできる曲です。本当に好き〜〜ありがとうございます！！！
Happy happy birthday to this miserable old man who also made my life miserable🍏🥹 I hope you don’t die 🫰
自分の理想なんだけども(?)
青リンゴ＝未熟 ってことは
奥さんからの愛をカズイ自身が知らなくて、
1人分の愛しかなかったからまだ未完成。
で、だから曲名もhalf。
最後のは多分りんごだよね...？
赤いりんごになってたのはカズイが奥さんからの愛に気づいて完成したけどもうすでに奥さんはいなくなったから壊れちゃった
って考えるとくそエモいなと思った
happy birthday, kazui! cheers to more bangers for trial 3 ~ 🍏
この曲マジで好き 報われて欲しい…永遠に…
自分はカズイさんが無罪を勝ち取りたくて悲劇の主人公を"演じていた"としても、それでも愛しているよ…
Something to point out abt Kazui and Amane parallels
One of Kazui’s Half mv frames 2:24 where him and his wife were in front of an apple, could be a reminiscent of the biblical story “The Forbidden Fruit”. The forbidden fruit tells a story of how Eve ate the fruit and gave some to Adam which resulted God into punishing the both, because God told them not to eat the fruit. In 3:13, kazui eats the apple.
This can also parallel to Amane’s story as Amane and the cat (adam and eve) used real medicine instead of magic (ate the fruit when they were not allowed to), the cult (god) catches them and punishes them.
I remember there being a theory on twitter that the paralleling prisoner duos tell each half of the whole story
(Ex. Fuuta/Rei exposes Muu/Killcheroy for their bad actions. Muu basically Killcheroy if Muu reacted in the the way Killcheroy did. Fuuta basically Rei, if Killcheroy killed Fuuta like Muu killed Rei)
Also Amane’s victim is represented as a cat and what’s Kazui’s 2nd trial song name? You guessed it, “cat”
Thoughts?
コメ欄のほとんどが考察投げ捨ててカズイにメロメロなの笑ってしまった
わかる
考察(雑魚)としてはもしかしたらカズイと奥さんは政略結婚で、カズイ自身は奥さんを愛していたものの伝えられず浮気(またはそう勘違いされるような類い)に逃げていて、それが奥さんを死に追い詰める理由になってしまったのかなと……
@@user-mn4mb7ks1fやっぱりカズイおじ浮気していた説有り得るのか…
でも浮気していたのならなんで結婚指輪なんかしてるんだろう…もしそれが
自分がしたことを奥さんを騙して浮気をしたのを深く後悔してその思い出を忘れない為にしてるとしたらなんか皮肉さもあるなぁ でもカズイおじイケおじやし色気ありまくりでしかも私の推しだから嫌いに出来ない…赦すことも出来ん…
ちゅらい☆(は？)
(Edit: CONGRATS EVERYBODY, WE DID IT!!!)
LET'S GO EVERYONE, LET'S GET HALF TO 1 MILLION VIEWS SO WE CAN GET AN ES COVER!!! Remember to follow the rules of streaming, and play other videos in between instead of just looping so they can be counted as separate views
913K currently. 87K MORE PEOPLE, WE CAN DO IT!
How about we tiktonize this song?
What do you mean there's no such thing as 'Watch Daily' so it looks more legit?
AAA 9.49 MORE WE NEED MORE!
On it
I feel bad this character is not getting as much attention as the others, I personally think he deserves more.
He is definitely very mature, and when looking at the scenes at the bar, with the atmosphere of the whole music video, I have a hard time believing Kazui CHEATED. I think the scenes with the other woman interacting with Kazui are moments that made him feel like his current relationship is missing something that this woman could possibly fill, but he "understand[s] that this love is out of bounds", as he is already married, likely has been for a long time as for his age, "so nothing has to change", and this just deepens his sadness and confusion of what love is, which I think is clearly felt in Kazui's voice and lyrics.
So if I believe this theory of mine and would have to put what I currently have together, Kazui has been living a life full of "feelings shrouded in lies", having lived most of his life in a relationship he is likely disappointed in but has accepted. On occasions, he would meet this woman that Kazui likely believes could have had a lot happier of a life with, likely filling his hunger with dreams (more like empty holes) whenever he meets this person while knowing not to step over the boundaries. What could have happened though was the wife learned this (possibly shown at 2:13, and I think "See you" spoken by a woman to a husband in Japanese is 4-5 syllables, so that could be what she said to Kazui) and thought if she disappeared then Kazui could go on living a much happier life, and when that happened Kazui questioned "why did I have to dream?", as it caused a life. "All these memories and you, only if I could erase them", supports his obsession with meeting this woman.
I will admit though. This music video is in the theme of a play theatre, him being an actor playing several roles in it.. He is very perceptive and smart from what we've seen in some of his dialogues, so yes it is in the realm of possibilities that he is deceitful, if these movies bypass deceits I don't know. With two more trials still to be seen, I can't say for certain yet, but he is definitely one of my favourites so far nevertheless. This is only speculation though, I personally still see it as just a design choice, supported by the fact he never answered the questionnaire that he plays theatre.
You see though, I am a dumb kid, I don't even know what the apple stands for in this movie. So don't take what I say (or really what most people say online) as complete truth please, just regard it as a grain of salt (not even sure if that makes sense).
I think the apple might be alluding to the story of Adam and Eve? Like the forbidden fruit that Eve eats
The saying is "take it with a grain of salt" so you were basically right! It's like saying "take my words lightly" or with caution perhaps, because you don't have all the answers. None of us do. I do appreciate your theory very much though!
HE CHEATED, HE DESERVES DEATH PENALTY FOR BEING A TWO FACED AND CHEATING!
@@teoxonkrisnane.2066 We don't know any of that for sure lmao. And to say people who cheat deserve the death penalty is a little extreme, don't you think?
i 100% support this and if i may bring in some of my own dumb theories i made at 3 am
(it is 3 am and i am overthinking rn) i think the apple represents the temptation to cheat, and we never see him actually bite it, except in the background of the blurry screen, but i dont think the burry screen is reality: i think, rather, it resembles what he wants to do, or dreams of doing. he definitely fell out of any love he might've convinced himself he had with his wife. i really like kazui, and think he's the most interesting character of the lot! i think the theatre represents the masks he has to put on with his wife to get her to believe he loves her, getting more and more detailed as it goes on, because he has to try harder and harder to get her to believe he truly loves her. but eventually he's just in his normal, worn outfit, as he gives up, revealing his true feelings, and his wife probably k/lls herself.
he genuinely looks absolutely desolate/guilty about this, and seems to feel extremely sad at the prospect of what he's brought upon his wife: he regrets what he's done. i think he deserves to be forgiven!
im sorry you wrote this 10 months ago you probably dont care about milgram anymore
カッコイイってことしか分からない…好きです…
英語字幕→再翻訳 英語の方が時制が分かりやすいかも…？
The of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart
あなたとの再会が私の心に突き刺さる
I imagined that you saying “See you” is the same as “It’s over”
私の中ではあなたの言った「またね」が「終わり」と同じだった
Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible
もしあなたの心が変わってさえくれれば、でもそれはあり得ない
Please tell me what I should do, my heart will float away and disappear
私はどうしたらいいのか教えてくれ、私の心は浮かんで消えた
If I were to make sure and suffer, I would rather be by your side
もし確かめて苦しんだなら、あなたの隣にい続ける方がいい
Laughing together, side by side, this distance in our relationship is misleading me, is this what happiness is?
笑いあって、隣り合って、私をミスリードした私たちの関係のこの距離が、この結果を引き起こしたのだろうか？
Where did I go wrong, probably from the beginning
どこで間違えたのだろう、多分初めからだろう
The of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart
あんたとの再会が私の心に突き刺さる
I imagined that you saying “See you” is the same as “It’s over”
私の中ではあなたの言った「またね」が「終わり」と同じだった
Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible
もしあなたの心が変わってさえくれれば、でもそれはあり得ない
Please tell me what I should do, feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear
私はどうしたらいいのか教えてくれ、日常に覆われた気持ちは浮かんで消えた
I could try you, and also try to touch you but you probably won’t notice
私はあなたに触れようとした、そして触れた、でもあなたはたぶん気づかなかった
I understand that this love is out of bounds,
私はこの恋が立ち入り禁止のものだと理解していた
So nothing has to change
だから何も変わってはいけない
All these memories and you Only if I could erase them
すべてのあなたの記憶は、私が簡単に消せるもの
All this time till now has hurt me, The scales of my heart has decided to sway
全ての時間、今でさえも私を傷つける、私の心の目盛が揺れていた
If continuing to hide is called unhappiness,
もし隠すことを続けるのならそれを不幸せと呼ぶ
Not even one word will get to you
1つだけじゃない言葉があなたに贈られる
The of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart
あんたとの再会が私の心に突き刺さる
I imagined that you saying “See you” is the same as “It’s over”
私の中ではあなたの言った「またね」が「終わり」と同じだった
Only if your heart would change but that’s not possible
もしあなたの心が変わってさえくれれば、でもそれはあり得ない
Please tell me what I should do, feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear
私はどうしたらいいのか教えてくれ、日常に覆われた気持ちは浮かんで消えた
I’m sure nothing will change and
何も変わらないことを確信している、そして
We’ll laugh together and call each other stupid names
私たちはお互いに笑いあい、馬鹿な名前で呼び合うだろう
So many things I wish I hadn’t known, I’m just a coward
知りたくなかったたくさんのこと、私はただ臆病だった
What I gave up a long time ago
私がずいぶん前に逃げ出したこと
Why is it questioning me now?
なぜそれが今私に問いかけているのか？
So many things that I should now have known, I’m just a coward
知りたくなかったたくさんのこと、私はただ臆病だった
If I were to make sure and suffer, I would rather be by your side
もし確かめて苦しんだなら、あなたの隣にい続ける方がいい
Laughing together, side by side, this distance in our relationship is misleading me, is this what happiness is?
笑いあって、隣り合って、私をミスリードした私たちの関係のこの距離が、この結果を引き起こしたのだろうか？
Cat見て戻ってきたひと🙋♂️
はーい😊
Same here bud✋😔 (this song is still my fav)
おーう
はーい
はーいw
舞台でカズイさんが演じてそれをカズイさんが見てるから、てっきり「実は結婚してなくて本当は奥さんじゃないのに好きな人と結婚した夫を演じてる（妄想してる）ストーカーさんが勢い余って相手を殺しちゃってそれを美化してるやばい変態さん」の曲なのかと思ってたら、コメ欄みんな切ない恋の考察ばっかで自分がいかに歪んだ考え方をする人間なのかを思い知った。
いつから……こんな、こんな…。昔はもっと、純粋だったのに、どうして……。
i really feels like all of this was like in the mv a play that Kazui shows to us and that the 2nd may be his true self...
The grip this man has on me is insane
Milgram nation where are you guys let's get this man to 1M views next. I feel like Kotoko will surpass him soon and that's kinda sad lol
He deserved more...
@@pacoelalpaco488 can't agree more. Old man needs some love
That makes me sad. It’s my favorite
NOOOOO THIS GUY DESERVES TO ROT IN HELL!!! HE IS A TWO FACED CHEATERRRR
GUYS GUYS, HE GOT MORE, CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
フータは助けられたけどもマヒルは助けられなかった…これってまさか意図的にマヒルを助けなかったのでは。過去の人殺し(?)が関係していて、マヒルのように愛や好きという思いを伝えてくる女性に対して何か思うところがあるんじゃないかと。あと、それと関係あるか分かりませんが第一審後のカズイさん結婚指輪を外していますね。
個人的にはマヒルを助けなかったというよりフータを助けたという印象ですね…
語彙力が無いのであれですけどあくまで優しさで助けたというより自分に得があるから助けたというスタンスに感じるというか…
マヒルを助けても得がないから助けなかったというか…
同性愛者説が本当ならフータが個人的に好みな男だったから助けて恩を売ったという可能性もある気がします
ボイスドラマ聞いてからだとまた違う感じに見える、、すげえ…
カズイさんイケボすぎでしょ
カズイさんの浮気で奥さんが飛び降り…かな…
刹那的な恋愛が性に合ってるんだろうな…結婚みたいに長い付き合いなると相手の嫌なところが見えてくるし…
仮面夫婦ってよりカズイさんが相手によっていい顔を使い分けてる印象(妻には良き夫、浮気相手には魅力的な男性)
まぁ、どっちもカズイさんなんだろうなhalfだし。そうなると奥さんのことは一応好きだったんだろうな。
とりあえず、カズイさんはかっけぇな！！！
I still have three songs to go through yet, but so far, this is already my personal favorite. Even though Kazui wasn't directly responsible for what happened to his wife, he still blames himself for it and still clearly loves her.
Looping this until it hits 1M
This is one of my favorite songs
Remember to not just loop it since yt will take it as spam and wont add new views. Instead make a playlist with song - some other random videos -song - repeat
Joining in as well!
Although the lyrics is sad but somehow it's the most relaxing song in MILGRAM I swear....
Relaxing? More like depressing tbh.
@@marcynote1956 Talking about the music🤣 well the lyrics is sure are so depressing...
It is depressing, but the song and music (and that man's smooth butter voice) sounds like a soothing lullaby.
It feels very bittersweet to me and that is what makes it so beautiful to listen at
カズイさんとシドウさんは絶対過去が切ないから想像だけで泣ける
曲の考察は出来ないけどめっちゃ良い曲だしなんか泣けてくる 歌い方が泣きそな声でつられる
Btw I don't think Kazui cheated on his wife, that's a red herring. Kazui never takes off his wedding ring nor does he change his clothes when he goes to meet other people, this implies he's not cheating. Rather, I think it makes more sense to believe he had an occupation as a bar host, thus the masks and acting. Lines like hoping his wife's heart will change can allude to her not approving of his occupation where he gets involved with other women and always comes home smelling like them. It's clear how much he loves his wife, he doesn't look at the other women the same way he looks at her. Either way, there's a severe lack of communication from both of them, and a lack of trust from his wife's side. This led to the eventual fallout and death of his lady.
Either way, I feel like Half is cleverly disguised as a story of cheating when it really isn't. Some things just don't make sense if you think of it as cheating, especially his lines about dreaming.
ねぇ...なんでこんな良い声なの...カズイさんんん...好きぃい
This song takes another meaning after cat is out
I still believe this man is really gay, and if you consider the lyrics aren't directed towards his wife but the man he loves, probably the bartender, his childhood friend or maybe both since they could be the same person... It takes a very different menaning all of sudden, check it again
(Or maybe feelings towards anyone else ofc. Kazui kinda confirm in his VD that though he never cheated on his wife, he does have feelings for someone else. So... yeah)
Especially "Wish your heart could change but that is impossible". Why would his wife have to change her heart? And he didn't seem that interested in the woman, even when she leaned against him. So yeah, agreed
@@Naynin Right ??? And more specifically, why wouldn't it be possible ? people's feelings can change... but not the gender they are attracted to
"The curse of reuninting with you put a dagger in my heart" meeting your childhood friend again and dying inside belike
Or "If I were to make sure and suffer I'd rather be by your side" aka I don't dare to confess because I'm gay and you'll think it's weird and creepy so I'll stay your closeted childhood friend forever so I won't lose you
One of his costume looking like a sailor one (the captain of the boat specifically methinks) and his childhood friend has a boat (cf.T1 interrogation) **Edit because someone told me it was a japanese cop outfit. But now I can't unsee the sailor outfit**
"I could try you and try to touch you but you probably won't notice" "I understand this love is out of bounds so nothing has to change" his flirt would go unnoticed because it'll just look like an old friend joking around with you and... "This love is out of bounds" whaaaat
"All these memories and you, if only I could erase them all" Childhood friend crush hurting you since years hellooo
"I"m sure nothing will change, we'll laugh together and call each other stupid names" very childhood friend relationship behavior coded
"What I gave up a long time ago... Why is it questioning me now ?" WHAAAAT THAT'S SO CLOSETED-GAY CODED.
Sorry it's eating my brain right now I can't believe nobody noticed before
@@nocturne_interlude AAAAH so many lines that can be interpreted in that way. Gorgeous! 😭
Love the stuff truly 😌
I really believe it's symbolism for homosexuality. Especially since in his voicedrama he specifically says he didn't cheat on his wife.
@@Naynin And add it's trying to stop lying who killed her and the "So I've tried to change [...] To stop lying to myself and others! I confided in others! I've tried to be myself, to be just the way I was born !"
And that whole part, like... There is no heterosexual explanation for that part when he breaks down
IN THE TRIAL QUESTIONS HE BROUGHT UP HIS CHILDHOOD FRIEND AND APOLOGIZED FOR GETTING TOO PERSONAL. OMG YALL ARE GENIUSES
The “Whats with y’all and old men eating people” theories in premiere chat... I’m screaming rn
vore kink
@@natchann6558 Goddammit you made me remember my suppressed war memories.
apple nom
@@aansherina4536 u had a vore kink??
@@natchann6558 Remember how the MLP was pretty big back in the day? Well I have a cousin who was really into it back in the day and so I watched a episode like everyday since I babysat him and I really liked deviant art and I was like.. hmm what happens when I searched my little pony.. porn. vore. and nightmare-inducing shit. I don't think I deserved to see that.. I was only an unassuming teenager, why did i see that. Then a few years later, a friend tricked me into searching up vore and wow, why did i deserve to see that?
初めからずっと好きな人のこと歌ってるやん……
奥さんのことなんて頭の本の片隅にしかない。
バーで女の人と絡んでるのも、バーテンダーに対しての「確かめて苦しむ」であって、別に浮気じゃなかった……
Coming back from Cat, if the Green Apple represents Kazui's internal feelings and fears itd all make sense
Sad my sweet dilf has the lowest amount of views;-;. Love this dude.
im glad im not the only one to call him a dilf
I like how in retrospect to the 2nd trial, this video now has clear hints/changes in meaning. The green apple, representing Kazui's (presumably) homosexuality was always present, just ignored. The parts where he is professing how he laments her loss is coupled with Kazui dressed in costumes and performing, quite literally; he's putting on a show. I hope this sort of changing in interpretation continues on in the next trials
theres also a part where it seems like hes staring at a woman but hes actually staring at the male bartender!! its right before he motions for kazui to look at the apple
バーにいる時絶対女性じゃなくてマスターみてるじゃん、マスターが見てたから困ってたのかな
2:12 bro looked at the bartender for a sec then to the green ( bad) apple that represents his gayness ( the part of him he considers 'bad') 😱😱😱
If you pause that scene very briefly you can see a shot of Kazui tearing up/crying before he blinks and stares at the apple.
kazui U MAKE ME CRY.
I never took the time to actually listen to this song until now and my god I love it so much. His voice, the song style, the whole theater thing. It's really good. I really regret not listening to it until now.
This genuinely made me tear up with the instrumental, the way he's singing, his voice, and the music video made me really sad
ミスリード
「人の誤解を招く」「判断を誤らせる」「人を欺く」
仮面とか舞台調だったから仮面夫婦とかしててそれに奥さんが耐えきれなくなって飛び降り自殺したのかなって思った。
青りんごはわかんないw
3:29 ここで写っているのが色合いと形的に赤りんご (置物？)で壊れている。
青リンゴが結婚してない女性
赤りんごが奥さん
隣にいたはずの青リンゴがステージに上がってスポットライトを浴びてる→役者で成功した (それか離れていってしまったとゆう比喩か…)
以上がリンゴで女性を例えているのではとゆう考察です…！
一応青リンゴはこういうものです。
青りんご（青リンゴ）とは、りんごを未熟なまだ青い状態で収穫したもの。
もしくは、熟しても青や緑のまま赤くならないりんごの品種。有名なのは王林など。
最後は赤いリンゴ割れているから奥さん？はやっぱり死んだのかな？
竹内さんのしっとりした不倫曲？なんて最高すぎて耳がお陀仏しそう永遠に聞いてたいこのキャラ最低なことしてるんだろうけど、竹内さんの声だと切なくてオシャレに聞こえるお陀仏しそうすき気持ちが爆発しそううわぁすきお陀仏
This Dilf he deserves 1 million let's go people!! Do it for him🤟😔😭
DO IT FOR THE DILF !!!
We’re almost at 1 million!! 🥺🍏
YOU SIMPS! IF YOU VOTED INNOCCENT FOR THIS GUY! YOU ARE A FOOL!
We did it!!!
WE DID IT LETS GOOO
100万再生おめでとうございます～～～～！！！！
Rewatching this after watching Cat, and something just occurred to me.
This seems to be a love song, yeah?
Nobody said it was aimed at his wife. Nobody said it wasn't aimed at a man he was in love with (possibly the Bartender?)
someone mentioned this in the jp message but the bar tender has a ring on his finger. "Only if your heart would change but that's not possible. "
I just listened to it again, but... isn't he singing about himself? Only if your heart would change but that's not possible." - since he's gay. And the green apple (homosexual thoughts) that keep coming back.
The curse of reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart -> The thoughts that have now come back
same here:
What I gave up a long time ago
Why is it questioning me now?
So many things that I should now have known, I'm just a coward
i wonder if this song would take place after he confessed his love to whoever that other person was? They were friends before, now their relationship grows distant with him being honest about his feelings. It makes sense, doesn't it?
I kind of think he "loved" his wife in the way you would love a close friend or something like that, so it's more just extreme guilt and sadness that he couldn't love her romantically and ended up using her to cover up.
I don’t believe Kazui cheated.
First I want to clarify which of the two women Kazui’s wife is. If we’re going off the basis of the 1st trials so far (Mu and Haruka’s victim with defined facial features showing their significance), then it’d make sense to assume the lady at the bar would be Kazui’s wife. However, Kazui’s wife is the woman with the black ponytail. Besides Kazui living with her, the woman’s left hand has a wedding ring shown at 2:33, the same one as Kazui’s. This confirms her status as Kazui’s wife.
The lady at the bar is assumed to be the woman Kazui cheats with. However, at 2:01 if you zoom in on Kazui’s left hand, he is wearing his wedding ring. If Kazui’s intent is to imply he is single and find someone to have a romantic relationship with, wearing his wedding ring would only hinder this process. He would avoid wearing his wedding ring if wants to involve himself romantically with others, and actively try to hide the fact that he’s married. Why wear his wedding ring in front of the woman he’s supposedly cheating on his wife with? The lady at the bar does not have a wedding ring on her left hand, so Kazui is not married to her. Kazui is analytical and his observant nature makes it unlikely for him to make the careless mistake of wearing his wedding ring in front of his supposed mistress (“since he keeps looking around like he’s analyzing something, his observing nature comes out” character profile Milgram_en Twitter).
Body language is a common indicator of attraction. At 0:38 Kazui and the lady are sitting next to each other, but their bodies face the bartender. At 0:41 when Kazui looks at the lady at the bar, he only turns his head and merely glances with a straight face. Compared to 0:48 while looking at his wife, Kazui turns his whole body toward her, giving her his undivided attention. He stares with a more soft expression and slight smile, more prominent in the far away shot at 0:57. To expand on this, as the lady at the bar leans closer to Kazui at 1:56 (not to make advances she’s just drunk), Kazui avoids touching or making any kind of physical contact with her. His right hand hovers over her shoulder, and his hands are positioned to catch her in case she falls, acting out of concern rather than affection. At 2:02 he further distances himself from the lady and gives her space.
Additionally the lyrics “I understand that this love is out of bounds, so nothing has to change” appear during that scene (1:56-2:02). Kazui states his boundaries and draws a distinct line between his friendships and romantic relationships. He proclaims his faithfulness and understands that “this love” (loving someone else/affairs) is “out of bounds” because he is married. Kazui knows that cheating on his wife is prohibited if he wants to continue having a happy marriage. His wife doesn’t have to worry about Kazui forming relationships with other women because he knows “that this love is out of bounds.” This can also apply to the lady at the bar. “Nothing has to change” between Kazui and the woman’s friendship because he knows loving her romantically is “out of bounds” and detrimental to his relationship.
The argument that Kazui is more fond of the lady at the bar because her face is defined while his wife’s is blank is solid, until looking at how Kazui depicts his wife. When Kazui mentions his wife at 2:07, he exclaims “All these memories and you. Only if I could erase them” (these words are directed towards Kazui’s wife, as he’s been referring to her for the entirety of the MV). Realistically I doubt someone could actually forget the face of their spouse, but since Kazui wishes to erase the memories of his wife, his MV will reflect those internal feelings and thoughts (“The personal experiences I see, how true-to-life the videos are and their degree of abstraction-that all depends on the person. They might even depend on how each of you perceives your own sin.” said by Es in Mahiru’s interrogation by Milgrammer on Tumblr). The wife’s blank face signifies importance to Kazui rather than Kazui dismissing her.
More points to refute the cheating theory exclusively
• The apple symbolism is something the cheating theory includes since it can symbolize temptation. But apples can mean many things (ex: knowledge, joy, death, love, etc). The apple symbolism depends on the theory it’s included in. With the cheating narrative, temptation fits, but when the narrative is replaced, the apple can symbolize something entirely different.
• Something else in the cheating theory is the mask, that Kazui is lying to the 2 women and living a double life. But Kazui switches between multiple outfits, not just the ones he wears at home and at the bar. I’d make better sense to convey duplicity if Kazui just switched between those two outfits specifically. The mask could just mean he’s hiding his feelings/pretending everything’s ok.
• The “cheating” is too vague. Although emotionally it makes sense, the theory is based on only a couple of shots, and in those shots, Kazui and the lady didn’t display any intimacy or indication of a romantic relationship.
• What was the purpose of showing the lady in the MV if Kazui didn’t cheat on her? An easy answer would be to misdirect the audience, but there’s more to it. I believe the MV itself is Kazui looking for reasons why the marriage was failing (“This distance in our relationship is misleading me...Where did I go wrong? Probably from the beginning”). Considering Kazui’s character, his indecisiveness causes him to be non-confrontational and not go through with this ideas, so it makes sense that he’s in his own head wondering why or where things fell apart (“I am always indecisive, I can’t be saved.” Kazui line in Undercover MV).
Kazui could’ve thought this friendship with the lady at the bar was on obstacle in his marriage. However after he states “I understand this love is out of bounds, so nothing has to change” the lady doesn’t show up again in the MV, so he figures that it wasn’t a problem. It could’ve also been the bar or drinking itself, because in a timeline convo Kazui states his main hobby is drinking, so possibly his drinking problem could’ve caused problems in the relationship.
This comment details topics of suicide, depression, and acts of violence.
The MV heavily implies Kazui’s wife committed suicide, shown by a shot of her standing behind the apartment balcony railings, subsequently disappearing after indicating that she jumped. Kazui’s infidelity is assumed to be the catalyst for the wife to take her own life. Now that cheating is out of the equation, why did the wife commit suicide, and what was Kazui’s role in her death?
When asked about his crime, Kazui says “I won’t deny it. I even regret it. I haven’t thought things over, though.” It’s also important to note that for Kazui’s crime scene in “Undercover,” he is shown reacting to his murder, holding the body and screaming out. The other prisoners are shown committing an action that lead to their victim’s murder (ex: strangling or hitting). Kazui’s involvement in the murder was not a direct action that caused his wife to die, but an indirect decision he made that resulted in this outcome. That decision is acknowledging his wife’s plan to kill herself, therefore being somewhat complicit in her death.
Before I get into my theory, I don’t mean that Kazui willingly wanted to drive his wife to suicide. Based on his reaction afterward, Kazui deeply regrets not taking action. Kazui is an indecisive person, so his internal conflict is deciding whether he should reach out and expressing his true feelings, or hold back and keep things to himself. He ultimately didn’t step in or take action. Milgram defines murder very loosely, as shown by Yuno, Futa, and Mahiru’s case. I will only be discussing the situation surrounding Kazui’s relationship and what prevented him from speaking out.
The setting of the MV is a theatre, where Kazui is in the audience watching himself onstage re-enact moments throughout his life to see where he went wrong with his marriage. This is fitting to his character, because Kazui is very observant and analytical, however he’s indecisive, which hinders his ability to confront the problems head on or go through with his ideas. He speculates that his wife had internal problems or depression, but never acted or confronted her about it. For a majority of the MV, he doesn’t talk directly to his wife. He’s more theorizing and speculating in his own mind.
“If I were to make sure and suffer, I would rather be by your side.”
Kazui speculates that his wife might be struggling internally. If Kazui were to “make sure” that his assumptions were correct, he would also be willing to “suffer” along with his wife and “would rather be by your (his wife’s) side” instead of having her deal with her problems alone.
“Laughing together, side by side. This distance is misleading me. Is this what happiness is?”
This follows the previous line where Kazui establishes his wife may be struggling internally. Even when Kazui and his wife seem to be having a good time “laughing together, side by side,” there is still distance in their relationship. Despite the happy times, the distance is enough to mislead to Kazui, and he starts to assume something might be wrong. He starts to question if the distance in his relationship is suppose to be a good thing, or something he should be happy about. If the distance was caused by something he did, Kazui is trying to observe and figure it out himself internally.
“Where did I go wrong? Probably from the beginning.”
This line is accompanied by Kazui in the audience seat, watching himself onstage. He wonders where he went wrong in the marriage, placing the blame entirely toward himself. Kazui is left to reflect on where things went wrong in the marriage by himself, specifically observing his own actions, as he believes the fault is his own.
“I imagined that you saying ‘See you’ is the same as ‘It’s over.’”
Whenever Kazui’s wife departs, Kazui thinks that this is a sign from the wife that their relationship isn’t working out. “See you” and “It’s over” to him are correlated and mean the same thing, however “imagined” is the key word here. Kazui is making drastic assumptions based on so little. He “imagined” that his wife is giving signals to break off their relationship, but his wife never directly states it. What leads Kazui to this conclusion is the distance and lack of communication in his relationship, leaving him to ponder about things by himself.
“If continuing to hide is called unhappiness. Not even one word will get to you.”
During this line, Kazui and his wife are off stage. Kazui’s wife speaks to him, while affectionately touching him, and Kazui grabs her hand and smiles sadly. Although he is grinning, his smile is devoid of happiness. His brows are furrowed and give off a disheartened expression. Shortly after, the spotlight shines on Kazui on stage with the apartment backdrop. His head is down and his dejected smile quickly turns into a wide eyed expression, raising his head as though he has realized something.
This is the only time Kazui and his wife communicate. At this moment, his wife confides in him, alluding to Kazui that she’s suffering. However, Kazui only responds with a dejected smile, not pushing for more information. The wife could’ve been hinting at her plan to take her own life. Kazui, being analytical and speculating that his wife may be struggling for a while now, acknowledged this. Although he doesn’t know the reasons why the wife would make this decision, he feels like he can’t talk her out of it, and “not even one (of his) word(s) will get to you (the wife)”so he doesn’t interfere with her plan. Kazui feels like it’s “not possible” for the wife to have a change of heart on the matter (only if your heart would change but that’s not possible). Since he doesn’t believe it’s possible for his wife to change her mind, he accepts her plan and upcoming death at the spur of the moment. Kazui accepts this not out of malice or resentment toward his wife, but due to his hopeless mindset and inability to speak his true thoughts and feelings. A flash of realization comes over him. Kazui’s indecisiveness strikes him as he’s onstage with the apartment backdrop behind him. He knows about his wife’s plan to commit, and begins to regret his previous approval. With the apartment setting onstage, his moment of realization could’ve happened right before the wife followed through with her plan. However his efforts were futile, as his wife turns her back and jumps from the balcony, Kazui behind her watching, unable to do anything.
“Please tell me what I should do, feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear.”
The chair appears onstage alongside Kazui as he performs the chorus. The chair is clearly shot by itself during the lyrics “Please tell me what I should do, feelings shrouded in lies will float away and disappear.” A single empty chair can indicate a human presence, or lack of. Chairs can also represent authority and a symbol of power. At 3:00 Kazui turns and kneels in front of the chair and asks what he should do. In this instance, Kazui appeals to the chair’s authority, seen as how he asks what course of action he should take. Remember that Kazui is painfully indecisive, and as he is wondering to himself what went wrong with his marriage, the chair is used as a stand in for a person, as someone would usually ask someone for advice. No one is there though, and it’s up to Kazui himself to either go through with his plans or ideas, or continue to keep to himself. At 3:09 he stands up and walks away from the chair, abandoning the idea to make a decision.
Green apple
I believe the green apple is meant to symbolize knowledge, specifically knowledge about problems in the relationship and about the wife’s struggles. Although he’s ultimately trying to figure out the problems, his hesitance to know the full truth and act upon learning this information.
“So many things that I should now have known. I’m just a coward.”
During this line, the wife’s suicide scene appears (she disappears off the balcony indicating she jumped). After biting the apple, Kazui now knows for sure about the wife’s struggles. After the wife’s death, Kazui exclaims that he “should now have known” about the wife’s internal problems. Now that Kazui is aware of the “many things” that lead up to the wife’s choice to take her own life, he berates himself for not taking any action and failing to figure what he did wrong. In hindsight, he felt like he should’ve known about the problems before the wife took her life.
TDLR; Kazui looks for reasons for the distance in his relationship. He also suspects his wife might be struggling mentally. Not telling him the reasons why, his wife informs Kazui about her plan to commit, and in the moment he accepts her death, believing he cannot change her mind. However he regrets his approval, and tries to stop her but is ultimately too late.
I wrote this before Kazui’s VD was translated- so I might add stuff to this afterwards!
anyway if you made it this far thank you sm for reading all of this- this was my 1st time analyzing a milgram MV and ngl it was really difficult LMAO. this was just my interpretation of how the death played out. thank u ^^
@@oceanjuicer7654 Incredible
@@oceanjuicer7654 I'm a big fan of the Kazui not cheating on his wife theories because it's ignoring the elephant in the room and trying to take a closer look.
One thing I'm kind of confused on though is this part "his wife informs Kazui about her plan to commit, and in the moment he accepts her death" I'm kind of unsure about that, I'm confused as to why he wouldn't do anything about it right after hearing it if he was concerned about her mental health prior, even being indecisive, anyone would naturally try to pull someone away from that plan.
I feel like it would be more accurate to his wife hinting something is wrong, and he begins to fear the worst. E.g. his wife saying "remember that I love you.." Her saying this at an odd timing could be her hinting towards her suicide. I just don't find it very likely she told him upfront and he just accepts it.
I love this theory, I didn't believe that he cheated on his wife but I was confused how him being indecisive played a part in making his wife commit suicide since some people were talking about his wife disapproving his job or something.
i rlly agree with this theory i strongly believe he didn’t cheat, ty for writing such an amazing theory
My theory before the actual MV:
In the preview, kazui is seen holding another persons body, and unlike the others, it seems very unlikely that it was a premeditated murder or that he drove someone to suicide. Also in the preview, his lyric talks about indecisiveness.
I think, Kazui had the choice to save someone, but didn’t do so, indirectly making him the killer. I think the theatre scenery is a metaphor for how he couldn’t do anything but watch helplessly as the other person suffered the consequences of his indecisiveness. It could be that he had to choose between saving his own life and saving the other’s. But by the time he could come up with a decision, it was too late.
後少し……後少しで100万回……！
WOOHOO HAPPY 1MIL TO KAZUI
HE IS SO BABYGIRL
Real🤞🤞🤞🥰🥰🥰
To all gay theory believers:
This may or may not be a huge coincidence BUT try disregarding the visuals and instead focus on the lyrics, and imagine he is singing to a man, his childhood friend.
It makes the song SO much more depressing, while at the same time, also still making a lot of sense.
Also the idea of him singing to someone we don't know isn't completely random as we see him speaking/singing to an empty chair at the end! Would love to hear your thoughts on this!
im so late but i was literally watching this and so into how i feel like it was a huge red herring -- we assumed he was singing to his wife, but the lyrics could just as equally apply to some unspecified man who he can never have, perhaps his childhood friend he mentioned twice in his qna for t1?
@@breatulu Yeah, as of now I (and the fandom I think?) believe that his best friend is the bartender since theres a man in the wedding scene in Cat who looks like him and he also confesses his love to someome while a glass of beer (?) is reflecting Kazui, same glass that we see in Half.
純粋に またねが終わりって聞こえた気がしたんだ って歌詞すごく好き
edit: i commented this the day of the MV premiere. since then my opinion on the cheating theory changed. i actually made another comment to rebut the cheating theory + my interpretation of the MV. idk why but i made a whole ass slideshow abt it lmao
docs.google.com/presentation/d/17QySx6jakwkfymXOsSFcj75v4Jv_9IACrTH-ijWVDiU/edit
since kazui is performing on a stage, im assuming the dagger line “reuniting with you puts a dagger in my heart” is an allusion to the work of Shakespeare’s Macbeth. to sum it up, Macbeth sees this vision of a dagger before he goes and commits murder. the dagger is shown in Macbeth’s conscious as he wonders if the dagger is real, or if it’s just his guilty conscious imagining it because he’s about to commit murder. this could tie to Kazui’s guilty conscious he has about his crime and dreams/illusions. “reuniting” with his wife “puts a dagger in his heart” because the dagger is his guilty conscious hitting him whenever he sees his wife, because he feels so guilty about cheating
ohhh that's a very interesting take
Just a thought, but could we perhaps further this interpretation and view Kazui’s wife as Lady Macbeth? In the play, the murder of the king drives an emotional rift between the couple. Macbeth turns away from his wife and instead towards the battlefield in hopes that gaining power would help overcome his guilt and insecurities. Meanwhile, Lady Macbeth is left alone to suffer from mental instability and paranoia- resulting in her suicide.
In Kazui’s case, the murder of the king is instead him committing adultery. In guilt, we see him distance himself from his wife- instead continuing pursuit of the affair in hopes that it will fill the insecurities he has in their marriage. As for the wife, some have theorized that Kazui felt distanced from her due to her worsening mental illness, but that is speculation for now. Regardless, it seems clear that it was Kazui’s actions that led to her suicide.
Note there’s no mention of a dagger in the original Japanese lyrics, the translator just chose an English expression with a similar meaning
HOLY SHIT I THOUGHT I WAS THE ONLY 1 THAT GOT REMINDED OF MACBETH 💀
Mata aeru noroi ga mune o shibaru
"Mata ne" ga "owari" tte kikoeta ki ga shita n da
Anata no kokoro ga kawattekuretara
Nante arienai omoi wa ukande kieru
Tashikamete kurushimu naraba
Kono mama de anata no soba ni ite
Waraiai kata o narabete kono kyori ga
Shiawase no misuriido
Doko de machigaeta no ka
Hajime kara darou
Mata aeru noroi ga mune o shibaru
"Mata ne" ga "owari" tte kikoeta ki ga shita n da
Anata no kokoro ga kawattekuretara
Nante arienai tadashisa o oshiete yo
Uso ni somatta omoi wa ukande kieru
Tameshitari furetemitari mo
Anata ni wa tsutawaranai darou na
Hamidashita koi to yuu deshou
Wakaru kara itsumodoori de ii yo
Arekore omoidasu koto o
Kesetara na
Ima made no jikan ga kizu o tsukete
Kimochi no hakari wa yureru koto o eranda
Kakushi tsuzukeru no o fukou to yobunara
Kotoba hitotsu mo anata ni wa todokanai
Aeru noroi ga mune o shibaru
"Mata ne" ga "owari" tte kikoeta ki ga shita n da
Anata no kokoro ga kawattekuretara
Nante arienai tadashisa o oshiete yo
Uso ni somatta omoi wa ukande kieru
Kitto zutto kawaranai mama
"Omae baka da na" tte waraiatte
Shiranai hou ga ii kotodarake
Okubyou na dake
Zutto mae ni akirameta koto
Ima ni natte nande koe o ageru no
Shiranai hou ga ii kotodarake
Okubyou na dake
Tashikamete kurushimu naraba
Kono mama de anata no soba ni ite
Waraiai kata o narabete kono kyori ga
Shiawase no misuriido
おじさん目めっちゃ澄んでない？？？？？？好き
モチーフは『カルメン』とかでしょうか
いっそ艶やかなくらいの光りが「舞台上」と「傍観」を分ける明確な違いになりそうですね
3:01ここのしゃがむところめっちゃ好き
カズイおじがもし浮気していようがなんだろうが…私は一生カズイおじを推し推し推しまくる…！だってこんなイケおじやら声もイケボやわ曲も神やわホント
嫌いになれへんし…akkaさんにイケおじを描いてくれたことに乾杯
you were so innocent, and you still are
第二審でカズイさんが同性愛者説見てきたら、バーで見つめてる相手が女の人じゃなくてバーテンダー（年齢的にマスターかも）にしか思えなくなってきた
I'm sorry this man's voice is so soothing what the heck!