I was at the Basin Reserve in Wellington 1969, and saw Griffiths bowl.against NZ. The Basin isn't the biggest ground in test cricket, and Griffiths was running in to bowl from just a few yards from the boundary. He was seriously quick even though he was at the end of his test career then. One thing that struck me about that team, was the bowling of Lance Gibbs, a spinner. I have never seen an off spinner bowl as quick as Gibbs.
Later on, Charlie Griffith was to hurt Nari Contractor for life, when the batsman got the ball at the back of his head. According to Contractor, "I saw the ball at the last moment and could not duck." It impacted the Indian captain's brain and nervous system and he was paralyzed from the waist downwards. It was only recently that a steel plate that had been embedded in Contractor's head, who is 90 now, was removed.
Lots of versions about that delivery which hit Contractor on back of head. According to Tiger Pataudi memoirs, even when virtually unconscious, Contractor was blaming the umpire for letting Griffith overshoot crease and not no balling him.
@@kalyaniyer8298 He did play cricket at the Brabourne stadium Gujrat Vs Bombay . He is a friend and patient of mine and a am CCI club member for 50 years. Do Google my name you will know me then. All the best
Are you even aware that Contractor ducked to a ball which want even a bouncer and got his skull smashed! Don't blame the bowler for Batsman's shaking feet & pounding heart!! Sunil Gavaskar averaged 65 odd and 13 centuries against same or better bowlers without helmet and similar no protection!!
There used to be a rule in the days before helmets where a tail end batsman could be given not out if the umpire thought the bowling was "intimidatory," so maybe the batsman was hoping the umpire would give it not out for that. Jim Higgs, a no. 11 for Australia and terrible batter, was given not out in a Test match once in the 1980s after gloving a nasty bouncer.
Griffith bowled from wide on the crease. The ball was angled across the stumps and might well have missed leg stump. The batsman gets the benefit of the doubt.
Things I learnt from this clip. 1) Home umpires were biased as hell, to the extent away teams didn't bother appealing hard for plumb LBWs. 2) People looked way older back then (apparently the batsman is under 50!). 3) Commentary has improved hugely. No idiot would be asking whether the batsman has been given out, if his stumps are rearranged behind him. Anyone saying cricket was better back in that era is talking rubbish.
Griffith is bowling from wide on the crease, so LBW is harder to give beyond doubt. Lock is a spinner, they can play into early 40s and thoroughly know their craft by then, although facing express fast bowling would not be on the fun list.
His glove was probably already off the bat when the ball ricochet to the fielder. I'm not sure he even realised he'd dropped the bat an his stumps. That was why there was doubt in his mind.
Batter should be playing lawn bowls and pruning his roses instead of shitting himself on the cricket arena. You could tell he just didn't want to be out there.
bowling to hit the batsman instead of the wicket should be illegal like it is in baseball. In this respect baseball qualifies as a gentleman's sport not cricket
The picture quality is far too poor to be able to tell that with any certainty. Much more like hindsight. His reputation has preceded him there so he must have chucked it, mustn't he!
Graham Yallop was the first batsman to ever wear a helmet in Test cricket. It was against the West Indies in 1978. A modified motor bike helmet.@anirudhsuresh4481
Tony Lock ,who was a Surrey and England spin twin with Jim Laker. Not sure of location but my guess is in the West Indies 1968. Probably 40 + years old. i believe he actually scored 80 in one test innings over there. He later emigrated to Australia and captained Western Australia. One of England's greatest spin bowlers but overshadowed by Laker after the Manchester test where Laker took nineteen wickets. Ironically ,Lock himself was once called for throwing and had to remodel his action. The consequences of a spinner throwing and a fast bowler are not comparable.
It was a tougher game in those days. He was plumb lbw the ball before and got away with it. Was a really good bouncer. Not sure what he was hanging about for, he was beaten and out. Tough game, go back to the pavilion nurse your bruised ego,and practice ducking.
Charlie Griffith was, in my opinion a blatant thrower, not every ball but the occasional ball delivered 'square on' exploded off a length. Ask Nari Contractor - fractured skull, blood clot on the brain, temporarily paralysed, never played again. In his early career Griffith never threw and was ineffective,fast medium. The 'Amateur Gentlemen' who ran the game failed to do anything about it. In contrast, Wes Hall was a great bowler.
Wes Hall and Charlie Griffith 2 of the fastest in the 60's
I was at the Basin Reserve in Wellington 1969, and saw Griffiths bowl.against NZ. The Basin isn't the biggest ground in test cricket, and Griffiths was running in to bowl from just a few yards from the boundary. He was seriously quick even though he was at the end of his test career then. One thing that struck me about that team, was the bowling of Lance Gibbs, a spinner. I have never seen an off spinner bowl as quick as Gibbs.
Thanks for this info about Gibbs in particular. A rare account and very interesting about his bowling style 👍
This was in the day when the bowlers didn't bowl short balls at the opposition bowlers, hence why Tony Lock was standing there
Getting caught out and a hit wicket in the same ball.....weirdest double dismissal of a batsman ever in the history of cricket.
He also hit his own stumps but stands there like what is it umpire? 🤦🏽♂️
The bat had left his grip when it hit the stumps. But LBW the ball before.
@@christophertalbot9488 so? It's still out.. even if his cap falls on the stumps, he's out
Later on, Charlie Griffith was to hurt Nari Contractor for life, when the batsman got the ball at the back of his head. According to Contractor, "I saw the ball at the last moment and could not duck." It impacted the Indian captain's brain and nervous system and he was paralyzed from the waist downwards. It was only recently that a steel plate that had been embedded in Contractor's head, who is 90 now, was removed.
Lots of versions about that delivery which hit Contractor on back of head. According to Tiger Pataudi memoirs, even when virtually unconscious, Contractor was blaming the umpire for letting Griffith overshoot crease and not no balling him.
Contractor led a normal life and is yet around and played cricket for many years later after the injury.
@@phirozepatel8843 he didn't play cricket again but yes he was in cricket circles and later became commentator.
@@kalyaniyer8298
He did play cricket at the Brabourne stadium Gujrat Vs Bombay . He is a friend and patient of mine and a am CCI club member for 50 years. Do Google my name you will know me then. All the best
Are you even aware that Contractor ducked to a ball which want even a bouncer and got his skull smashed! Don't blame the bowler for Batsman's shaking feet & pounding heart!! Sunil Gavaskar averaged 65 odd and 13 centuries against same or better bowlers without helmet and similar no protection!!
That first delivery seemed to be hitting middle and off ,plumb LBW.
..looked a bit like a Throw too
Not a throw.
Going down leg.
You have very good eyesight
Pretty hard to tell from that angle don't you think?
He's brave wanting the umpire to give him not out.
If it was me I would have been heading for the stand before they even had a chance to appeal.
Batsman has absolutely no protection. Not even hair on his head
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
😂
The batsman is so happy to go back 😂
Out twice in 2 balls unless he got a nick on the first one. Plumb lbw. Caught behind and hit wicket so basically out 3 times in 2 deliveries.
Griffith will always be remembered as a “chucker”. And rightly so.
Salute to old generation Cricketer who kept flow of beautiful Cricket game in unsafe condition for new Generation.
There used to be a rule in the days before helmets where a tail end batsman could be given not out if the umpire thought the bowling was "intimidatory," so maybe the batsman was hoping the umpire would give it not out for that. Jim Higgs, a no. 11 for Australia and terrible batter, was given not out in a Test match once in the 1980s after gloving a nasty bouncer.
Jim Higgs was given not out because of intimidating bowling it gave Doug Walters to go on an score a century.
No helmet, batsmen are really brave to face
No forearm protection no rib guards, poor quality gloves and pads compared to modern game
Griffith bowled from wide on the crease. The ball was angled across the stumps and might well have missed leg stump. The batsman gets the benefit of the doubt.
Although Tony Lock was a tailender he had made some handy runs in the series so perhaps getting a bouncer could be justified
How old Tony Grieg looks in this video !
Tony Greig ?
Tony Lock, Greig was in kindergarten drinking from a milk bottle.
Before the start of that over the batsman had a full head of hair.
😂
How old is the batsman ?!?
Butcher---Taylor---Hunt---Kanhai--AAPAS MEIN HEIN BHAI BHAI---that was the chant in pakistan for the WI team when pak visited them
Without helmets. Those were days of the bowlers. Now its all batsmen
This umpire puts umpires Steve Bucknor and Shakoor Rana to shame.
We should not take Peter West’s commentary too literally. The ball was chest high and outside the off stump. Lock walked across it.
Which part of middle stump was the first ball missing?
@connorduke4619
The part the umpire was clearly too blind/incompetent to see.
First ball clean LBW
Sorry but that first ball wasn’t going anywhere but to the stumps it was plum lol
No Mate - I don't think so ; looked like going down the legs .
Irrelevant given the players didn't appeal, he must have hit it
If he had been given our lbw previous ball, this wouldn't have happened
Most daring batsmen, no helmet, I am 200% sure today's cricketer don't even have chance to face even medium pacer without helmet
Things I learnt from this clip. 1) Home umpires were biased as hell, to the extent away teams didn't bother appealing hard for plumb LBWs. 2) People looked way older back then (apparently the batsman is under 50!). 3) Commentary has improved hugely. No idiot would be asking whether the batsman has been given out, if his stumps are rearranged behind him. Anyone saying cricket was better back in that era is talking rubbish.
Griffith is bowling from wide on the crease, so LBW is harder to give beyond doubt. Lock is a spinner, they can play into early 40s and thoroughly know their craft by then, although facing express fast bowling would not be on the fun list.
What was the question of him being caught? He hit wicket so surely was out anyway!!
First ball was out. Justice.
His glove was probably already off the bat when the ball ricochet to the fielder. I'm not sure he even realised he'd dropped the bat an his stumps. That was why there was doubt in his mind.
AH when was the BODYLINE SERIES in Australia ? 1932/33 to stop Donald Bradman !
I guess "dismissal by hit wicket" wasnt yet implemented
Recorded as out hit wicket - 5th Test, The Oval, August 22 - 26, 1963
This should be titled as How to Teach an Ump to Do the Right Thing!
that was a good ball
Batter should be playing lawn bowls and pruning his roses instead of shitting himself on the cricket arena. You could tell he just didn't want to be out there.
Why was he waiting?,,,,the catch was irrelevant .
bowling to hit the batsman instead of the wicket should be illegal like it is in baseball. In this respect baseball qualifies as a gentleman's sport not cricket
Don’t understand why he was waiting to discover if he was out - he hit his own wicket, therefore out.
Quick stuff
How quick was sir Charlie Griffith
Rapid when he threw it
He was BBC 🤣🤣
Charlie grifith was chucker
Looks like he chucked it here, and in a few other videos I've seen of his.
Yes, looked like a Throw to me too.
He was called for throwing several times.
The picture quality is far too poor to be able to tell that with any certainty. Much more like hindsight. His reputation has preceded him there so he must have chucked it, mustn't he!
Why contrater was without helmet.
Achuthan kiya naam diya hai !
Graham Yallop was the first batsman to ever wear a helmet in Test cricket. It was against the West Indies in 1978. A modified motor bike helmet.@anirudhsuresh4481
He was bowling for blood.
And Wes from the other end.
What did Lock want Griffiths to do?
Bowl him little dolly’s?
No protective gears no restriction in bouncers. West indies won by smile those days
@sankaranarayanansundaresan9416
I heard the West Indies also won by a grin and a chuckle as well as a "smile." 🤣😂🤣
His stance was so far back in his crease.
Undoubtedly the most hostile pair of fast bowlers in the history of cricket.... dangerous duo of Griffith and Hall
Sorry, that would be Lillee and Thomson for a couple of years in the early 70's. Colin Cowdrey said so.
@@terrya8989
Or Roberts and Holding and Ambrose and Walsh.
@@terrya8989 No Griffith was faster than Hall and Hall was faster than Lillee
@@jacktattis But Thomson was faster than all of them
@@TheTigers00001No he was not Benuad who played against Tyson b and saw Thompson on many occasions said That Tyson was faster
May I know the batsman and his age
Tony Lock ,who was a Surrey and England spin twin with Jim Laker. Not sure of location but my guess is in the West Indies 1968. Probably 40 + years old. i believe he actually scored 80 in one test innings over there. He later emigrated to Australia and captained Western Australia. One of England's greatest spin bowlers but overshadowed by Laker after the Manchester test where Laker took nineteen wickets.
Ironically ,Lock himself was once called for throwing and had to remodel his action. The consequences of a spinner throwing and a fast bowler are not comparable.
@@melvynslote457 tq sir
Stop complaining and get off the ground Pops. You were clueless against that pace.
Comparing now, it's circus
nearly took his head off
I suspect he was happy to be out!
The batsman is a 102 years old ?!??!?
It was a tougher game in those days. He was plumb lbw the ball before and got away with it. Was a really good bouncer. Not sure what he was hanging about for, he was beaten and out. Tough game, go back to the pavilion nurse your bruised ego,and practice ducking.
Tony Lock’s batting stance didn’t help him. Crouched over his bat against a bowler as rapid as Griffith.
Remember folks no helmets worn in those days😢
A woman watching cricket that too from back in the day
Caught and hit wicket 😂
Notice how languid he was
Where the hell is your helmet man?
Tony Lock was too young to manage these kind of bowling...ha..
More than one interpretation😢
Looked like throwing
It's clean bowling.
@@balajitsundar
Nope
Even heard all something's but now after seen. mind takes to think about future generations for all things it's really questionable ✍️
Out hit wicket
If posible such documtries with the help of technology reproduced with exact facts will become a very interesting
Not particularly brave bowling bouncers at tailenders in the era before helmets.
The batsman looks about 65 years old ⁉️
He was 34 ! Maybe they looked older in black and white. 😀
@@stephengraham5099 Facing Griffith could age a batsman quickly.
This speed will be around 170 kmph.
The batter looks like he'd just been hauled out of a Pub to make up the numbers
Tony Lock was the pub player. One of the greatest spin bowlers of all time. Don't let the bald head fool you.
Donald,mcgrath,ambrose,wasim,shoaib are nothing compared to these bowlers.
Quite the exaggeration there. Think you need to stop smoking the good stuff
😂😂😂😂😂….. he throws his bat on his wicket and thinks he is not out!
Threw his bouncer and Yorker apparently
Yes, first ball looked like a Throw.
That's a lot about nothing.
Charlie Griffith was, in my opinion a blatant thrower, not every ball but the occasional ball delivered 'square on' exploded off a length. Ask Nari Contractor - fractured skull, blood clot on the brain, temporarily paralysed, never played again. In his early career Griffith never threw and was ineffective,fast medium. The 'Amateur Gentlemen' who ran the game failed to do anything about it. In contrast, Wes Hall was a great bowler.
and Norm O'Neill was dropped and never played for Australia again for saying just that.
@@andrewmaroc113 I never knew that.
Who is this Grandpa Batsman playing 😂 funny how he got out & won’t leave 😂
Tony Lock...do some basic research fool.
@ednan9
Yes! He was out plumb LBW the 1st ball and out twice the 2nd ball - caught behind *AND* hit wicket.
And he looks more like a great grandpa:)
He didn't play that very well.
You think? 😁
Charlie the chucker
So what about Muli from Sri Lanka ?
@@AuthenticSelector64 A chucker, just like Malinga and so many other Sri Lankan bowlers over the last 40 years.
@@paulcarew593 ….true
@@paulcarew593
Yup, Murali a chucker as was Malinga the slinger...
Chucking
Australian umpires are cheter since inception of cricket