Outstanding video and tool! I will buy one. I build cabinets using the porter cable biscuit joiner. I screw and glue all connections using the biscuits. But I can see this method is much stronger!
Thank you for showing this nice tool in your video. Indexing precisely the exact position of the tenons remains a MAJOR Time-Eater, but then again that goes the same for Festool. (And they NEVER talk about it)...
I think anytime you can save money on a tool that does the same as an overpriced tool, like the Festool, go for it. This looks like an awesome tool substitution. Thanks for the demo.
I’d never even think of purchasing a Festool anything, much less a domino machine. I’m a true mortise and tenon man, but I might just buy your jig. The convenience it would offer at times I believe is well worth the price your asking. Good job Mr Ding
@@adrianmack3 My mistake. I still think it’s a neat little jig. If I purchase it I’d probably dedicate a router to it and leave it pretty much set up. Oh yeah, Mr Ding seems like a nice guy😀, good luck to all involved.
Have to admit that this would be more affordable then the festool. Of late I’ve had to joint some boards together. I used a dowel jig but this would have saved me time and help with accuracy. Thanks Ding!!
This is an amazing jig; in fact, in some ways it’s even better than the Domino. For instance, I can see this this jig routing deeper mortises with a longer router bit-something the Domino simply cannot do. Next, visibility is excellent, making it much easier to rout longer slots with confidence. And, finally, it can easily become a doweling tool by restricting the lateral movement. With a little bit of imagination, a host of useful accessories for chain doweling/mortising can also be built into the design. I hope the person who came up with this jig has applied for a patent, otherwise someone else will probably steal this brilliant idea.
A great mortising Jig keeping it simple to use and affordable. I think that if you turn it upside down you can do mitred joints referencing from the pointed edge. I will have to wait for the 71mm version to fit my Bosch router. Keep up the good work
Great review thanks. I am looking at this jig for two days now and had a few questions couldnt figure it out on their website, youtube recommended it to me now as a first suggestion 😁. You did a great job showing its potential, thank you.
Thanks! Please beware to only purchase this jig from the links I included in the descriptions. I've so far been contacted by two different people who unfortunately made purchase from scam websites, and ended up not receive anything.
@@DingsWorkshop yes the website points to ebay link, and I was very pleased to see they made it for milwaukee m18 router. I will check my history for website
Totally worth getting if you're not sure how often you would be needing it. Even if you use it all the time I still think it would be worth it. Also I'm sure dust collection could be engineered easily enough by the individual.
Just got my new mortiser. Looks great, but no mention of what the bag of parts is for. A small wavy washer and a lock collar with a set screw..Could use some help with this.. can't wait to start using it..THANKS
I built a jig that I use with a plunge router. It's pretty versatile, but I spent about $160 and a full work day building it. I think this tool is a great alternative to the domino, but I would like to see one that works with more powerful routers.
Easier said than done. Bigger router brings weight/balance/handling problems --- per Domino 700. In-line relationship between centerline of cutter and centerline of router motor adds another challenge, especially when cutting in horizontal orientation, which is most convenient, especially for long work pieces.
This is amazing. Can you provide an update on version 2 development? Will that be available soon? Or even this version 1, I noticed it's currently out of stock on the eBay link?
I enjoyed your presentation on Tianli mortising attachment. I purchased a 'similar' attachment from a Facebook ad. It just arrived with no instructions for putting it together ... just a picture with parts labeled in Chinese. While the machining was good, the saddle for holding the compact router was two aluminum 'U"s that have no adjustment. The pistons have no measurements and there is one knob for adjusting horizontal and vertical with no clue as to where it goes. Hey... It was less than 1/4 the price of the Tianli... although "making it work" will cause me some headaches. I consider it a lesson learned.
@@DingsWorkshop No, I have tried to find the ad on Facebook with no success. Joe Doe was the name on the return address in New York... I will try to send you a picture. Thanks for your quick response. Merry Chritmas!
They did have an updated version and I’m getting one soon. The updated version adds a spring so it’s easier to retract. I’ll do a review after I receive it
Have seen that there is already available a new version for dewalt routers, you can buy 5 Tianli jigs for the price of one festool so for me this is a must have jig.
5? the tool is 250 plus shipping almost 300, add a trim router that works in it, maybe you have one already or maybe you dont, add another 100 that is almost 400 dollars now, and yes significantly cheaper and significantly slower. So roughly 2 and some change you can buy maybe 3 instead of 1 domino, but again it would mainly depend on is it making you money or not, if it is a tool used in ur work flow then you still better off with the domino. I do not own a domino and looked at this as possibility but after seeing the price i think i would either pay the extra for the domino or just make one myself out of wood as there are several videos on just that already. Having said all that it looks well made and prob well worth the money for hobbyist, but you are still left with the question if you are a hobbyist, should i build one out of wood. I would have been more interested if it went side to side on an angle as in pivoted.
@@reality150tv I f you live outside of the US or the EU the shipping is way more in my case the import taxes add up 40% for an electric tool over the sale price of the festool for a $1,000 tool is around $150 shipping and $400 in taxes, for this jig is $250 and qualifies in customs as a tool accesory that only pays 13% tax so $32.50 and maybe $50 for the shipping. Each of us see this from our own reality. Right now I do the floating tenons or dominoes on the router table and to my own tenons with hardwood thos allows me to use bigger tenons when needed, this jig is just more practical way of doing it.
@@EPortillo5000 I have no idea where you are at, but you are getting screwed if u are paying that high in taxes, it sounds like u are in some 3rd world country, to not have an authorized festool reseller or something. We are then left with the you can make this tool out of wood for hardly nothing and it would be a fun shop project.
@@reality150tv Indeed I'm way south of the border, and the taxes are 13% VAT or sales tax and 28% import tax since is an european brand and only if is made in the usa and bought directly from the manufacturer and if they send the right paperwork the import tax is 0%.
@@EPortillo5000 Well that sucks my friend, still i recommend checking out some of the wooden diy versions of this jig, I have seen atleast 6 wooden versions that you could easily make out of scraps and depending on what version some using drawer slides and some using bearing blocks like this one, prob around $20.00 for everything besides ur scraps. I might even make one this weekend and make a video on it, just for a project. What ever route u choose good luck and have fun.
Cool. Just have to keep it in mind it's the cost of the jig plus the cost of the router. So more like $300-$350. Still much cheaper, and also has the ability to be more useful with the router.
Yeah, there are a lot more $350 tools that would bump this one off my list. In fact if I ever had the money to justify this I could probably afford to just buy the festool
Good jig. I agree with a lot of the comments that this is a lot cheaper than buying a domino machine but honestly depends on how much you use it . For example if you are doing thousands of joints and need to use on site where dust extraction and no possibility for clamping workpiece then buy the festool. Otherwise a great jig!
I'm not sure the spindle size of the Bosch Colt. the mounting hole for this jig is designed for 65mm. I THINK the Bosch Colt is around 2-7/8 inch ish? that should fit
Yeah interesting product especially for those who are not pros and do occasional joinery for furniture. Even do pros I’d imagine either domino joiner would be unnecessary since in a higher production environment there would be jigs for repetitive parts. Festool has cornered the market on over priced over hyped tools. Their smaller domino joiner actually NEEDS dust collection or else it clogs up. The big one is heavy and clumsy and must appeal to a very small percentage of the market… big thick slabs joinery… so a very tiny market. A traditional biscuit/plate joiner accommodates the flexibility of loose adjustment but likely is not as strong as a tenon. Alternatively you can do three dowel holes side by side and get similar results to a domino tenon joint. At a fraction of the price. This tool is interesting although in two years it’s shot up from $199 to $260 (30%)plus shipping is $50 so well in excess of buying a plate joiner. With a router you’re certainly over $500 just to do tenons. No bueno Stick to a plate joiner and if you’re obsessed then get a dowel jig for extra strength
I have the domino DF500. Just bought this on their website for less than $60 with free shipping. I'll keep this in my truck for on site work. The domino stays in my shop.
It's a great idea but the bit appears dangerously exposed. Your mileage may vary but a re-design with some sort of cover (plexiglass maybe) would turn me from wary to purchaser.
It certainly is an ideal solution for joining in small projects, but I would prefer a larger biscuit joiner for larger sized builds. You don't necessarily have to purchase a Festool. That being said, where does one purchase the plugs for this style mortise? Good review.
hmm I'm not familiar with the Hikoki M1808DA. But if its 65mm, then yes it will work this jig. Also I believe the maker of this jig if now offering new version which supports different spindle diameters.
Outstanding video and tool! I will buy one. I build cabinets using the porter cable biscuit joiner. I screw and glue all connections using the biscuits. But I can see this method is much stronger!
Thank you for showing this nice tool in your video.
Indexing precisely the exact position of the tenons remains a MAJOR Time-Eater, but then again that goes the same for Festool. (And they NEVER talk about it)...
I think anytime you can save money on a tool that does the same as an overpriced tool, like the Festool, go for it. This looks like an awesome tool substitution. Thanks for the demo.
That’s a great alternative to the domino. I can’t afford Festool but could this for sure. Great review Ding
Will wait for version two with angle adjustment and dust collection. Seems like that could be achieved
I’d never even think of purchasing a Festool anything, much less a domino machine. I’m a true mortise and tenon man, but I might just buy your jig. The convenience it would offer at times I believe is well worth the price your asking. Good job Mr Ding
It's not his jig, he is just reviewing it.
@@adrianmack3 My mistake. I still think it’s a neat little jig. If I purchase it I’d probably dedicate a router to it and leave it pretty much set up. Oh yeah, Mr Ding seems like a nice guy😀, good luck to all involved.
Have to admit that this would be more affordable then the festool. Of late I’ve had to joint some boards together. I used a dowel jig but this would have saved me time and help with accuracy. Thanks Ding!!
谢谢！拜托多介绍一些这样的省钱组合，因为我只是一个业余业余又业余的爱好者，又是女生，这样小巧实用又实惠的东西真是太好了！👍
This is an amazing jig; in fact, in some ways it’s even better than the Domino. For instance, I can see this this jig routing deeper mortises with a longer router bit-something the Domino simply cannot do. Next, visibility is excellent, making it much easier to rout longer slots with confidence. And, finally, it can easily become a doweling tool by restricting the lateral movement. With a little bit of imagination, a host of useful accessories for chain doweling/mortising can also be built into the design. I hope the person who came up with this jig has applied for a patent, otherwise someone else will probably steal this brilliant idea.
Do we know when this will be available again? It appears to be sold out everywhere...
This tool looks fantastic and brilliant! Thanks for reviewing and showcasing it!
Actually not a bad little jig that seems to be quite capable. Thanks for showing it!
thank you so much for posting! i saw this earlier, but wasn't quite sure how to use it. you have me convinced!
I ordered one of these on FB last November still waiting for it
A great mortising Jig keeping it simple to use and affordable.
I think that if you turn it upside down you can do mitred joints referencing from the pointed edge.
I will have to wait for the 71mm version to fit my Bosch router.
Keep up the good work
Yeah, Colt Bosch need 71 mm...I want to use it to a CNC too...
Wow! This is a fantastic looking jig. I know what I'm buying soon!
Great review thanks. I am looking at this jig for two days now and had a few questions couldnt figure it out on their website, youtube recommended it to me now as a first suggestion 😁.
You did a great job showing its potential, thank you.
Thanks! Please beware to only purchase this jig from the links I included in the descriptions. I've so far been contacted by two different people who unfortunately made purchase from scam websites, and ended up not receive anything.
out of curiosity, what website did you see this jig? (I'm concerned if it's a scammer site)
@@DingsWorkshop yes the website points to ebay link, and I was very pleased to see they made it for milwaukee m18 router.
I will check my history for website
Because woodworking is one hobby of me, I prefer this tool. Thanks for introduction. 👍👍👍👍
After looking at da Festool price this is clearly a no brainer purchase as far as i am concern. That spring back thingie i like a lot.
Not selling my Domino, but I have to say this is a really great looking alternative. Very well done.
Totally worth getting if you're not sure how often you would be needing it. Even if you use it all the time I still think it would be worth it. Also I'm sure dust collection could be engineered easily enough by the individual.
Would setup blocks be useful to set the height? Does the zero on the height scale line up the router bit at the edge of the platform?
Demo was only on narrow stock. How would you cut the mortise in say, the centre of a 30cm mdf sheet?
I have a Domino, but this looks like a nicely machined tool. can't beat the price !!!
A guy could do some groove cutting with this too
Domino’s dust control capability is top notch
Just got my new mortiser. Looks great, but no mention of what the bag of parts is for. A small wavy washer and a lock collar with a set screw..Could use some help with this.. can't wait to start using it..THANKS
Ding you would have loved the 70's! Disco never dies! hahahah.. love your music selection in your videos. Its... different!
I am an old school guy. Too old for my own age hahahaha🤣
What is the range of the jig, meaning how far below the top can you rout the mortise? I need to go 2-3”.
I built a jig that I use with a plunge router. It's pretty versatile, but I spent about $160 and a full work day building it. I think this tool is a great alternative to the domino, but I would like to see one that works with more powerful routers.
Easier said than done. Bigger router brings weight/balance/handling problems --- per Domino 700. In-line relationship between centerline of cutter and centerline of router motor adds another challenge, especially when cutting in horizontal orientation, which is most convenient, especially for long work pieces.
Someone got a Link to that tool/ jig ? the Links in Vid are old :/
Looks like a good device. You could also use it as a plunge base for your router.
This is amazing. Can you provide an update on version 2 development? Will that be available soon? Or even this version 1, I noticed it's currently out of stock on the eBay link?
Hey Ding
Thanks for sharing. IMO it's a really cool jig!
I enjoyed your presentation on Tianli mortising attachment. I purchased a 'similar' attachment from a Facebook ad. It just arrived with no instructions for putting it together ... just a picture with parts labeled in Chinese. While the machining was good, the saddle for holding the compact router was two aluminum 'U"s that have no adjustment. The pistons have no measurements and there is one knob for adjusting horizontal and vertical with no clue as to where it goes. Hey... It was less than 1/4 the price of the Tianli... although "making it work" will cause me some headaches. I consider it a lesson learned.
HI Donald - out of curiosity, do you still have link to where you purchased the jig? I'm interested to have a visual idea of what it looks like
@@DingsWorkshop No, I have tried to find the ad on Facebook with no success. Joe Doe was the name on the return address in New York... I will try to send you a picture. Thanks for your quick response. Merry Chritmas!
I have tried to add a picture... I can send it to an email link or elsewhere if you have a better selection.
Do you have a material list?
That's slick...did they ever update it, gotta fit the DeWalt, if one doesn't have yours they got the DeWalt...looks simple to use...
They did have an updated version and I’m getting one soon. The updated version adds a spring so it’s easier to retract. I’ll do a review after I receive it
Link to buy doesn't work.
How wide the mortise max width and height
Have seen that there is already available a new version for dewalt routers, you can buy 5 Tianli jigs for the price of one festool so for me this is a must have jig.
5? the tool is 250 plus shipping almost 300, add a trim router that works in it, maybe you have one already or maybe you dont, add another 100 that is almost 400 dollars now, and yes significantly cheaper and significantly slower. So roughly 2 and some change you can buy maybe 3 instead of 1 domino, but again it would mainly depend on is it making you money or not, if it is a tool used in ur work flow then you still better off with the domino. I do not own a domino and looked at this as possibility but after seeing the price i think i would either pay the extra for the domino or just make one myself out of wood as there are several videos on just that already. Having said all that it looks well made and prob well worth the money for hobbyist, but you are still left with the question if you are a hobbyist, should i build one out of wood. I would have been more interested if it went side to side on an angle as in pivoted.
@@reality150tv I f you live outside of the US or the EU the shipping is way more in my case the import taxes add up 40% for an electric tool over the sale price of the festool for a $1,000 tool is around $150 shipping and $400 in taxes, for this jig is $250 and qualifies in customs as a tool accesory that only pays 13% tax so $32.50 and maybe $50 for the shipping. Each of us see this from our own reality. Right now I do the floating tenons or dominoes on the router table and to my own tenons with hardwood thos allows me to use bigger tenons when needed, this jig is just more practical way of doing it.
@@EPortillo5000 I have no idea where you are at, but you are getting screwed if u are paying that high in taxes, it sounds like u are in some 3rd world country, to not have an authorized festool reseller or something. We are then left with the you can make this tool out of wood for hardly nothing and it would be a fun shop project.
@@reality150tv Indeed I'm way south of the border, and the taxes are 13% VAT or sales tax and 28% import tax since is an european brand and only if is made in the usa and bought directly from the manufacturer and if they send the right paperwork the import tax is 0%.
@@EPortillo5000 Well that sucks my friend, still i recommend checking out some of the wooden diy versions of this jig, I have seen atleast 6 wooden versions that you could easily make out of scraps and depending on what version some using drawer slides and some using bearing blocks like this one, prob around $20.00 for everything besides ur scraps. I might even make one this weekend and make a video on it, just for a project. What ever route u choose good luck and have fun.
I would stick sandpaper on the plate surface for better control.
that is a good idea!
Thanks for presenting us with the jig. It had potential but I would prefer to save for the Festool.
Cool. Just have to keep it in mind it's the cost of the jig plus the cost of the router. So more like $300-$350. Still much cheaper, and also has the ability to be more useful with the router.
Yeah, there are a lot more $350 tools that would bump this one off my list. In fact if I ever had the money to justify this I could probably afford to just buy the festool
Spot on Ding! Great review
Deberían diseñarlo para poder trabajar en angulo y ya sería tan buena como la festool
Os animo a ello y tendréis más ventas seguro
Where can these be brought from please?
Great video !
Good jig. I agree with a lot of the comments that this is a lot cheaper than buying a domino machine but honestly depends on how much you use it .
For example if you are doing thousands of joints and need to use on site where dust extraction and no possibility for clamping workpiece then buy the festool.
Otherwise a great jig!
Link doesnt work
No hay disponible en EBAY, ¿donde consigo?
Think it would fit the Bosch colt router? kind of a standard in most shops.
I'm not sure the spindle size of the Bosch Colt. the mounting hole for this jig is designed for 65mm. I THINK the Bosch Colt is around 2-7/8 inch ish? that should fit
I didn't see it used on miters though
What is the plunge depth with the right router bit? It would be a great addition to the DF500 if the plunge depth is more.
I measured the movement depth is about 2 inches
请问在哪里可以买到，我在ebay为什么买不了？
What if you want a domino in the middle of a large piece?
Yeah interesting product especially for those who are not pros and do occasional joinery for furniture. Even do pros I’d imagine either domino joiner would be unnecessary since in a higher production environment there would be jigs for repetitive parts. Festool has cornered the market on over priced over hyped tools. Their smaller domino joiner actually NEEDS dust collection or else it clogs up. The big one is heavy and clumsy and must appeal to a very small percentage of the market… big thick slabs joinery… so a very tiny market.
A traditional biscuit/plate joiner accommodates the flexibility of loose adjustment but likely is not as strong as a tenon. Alternatively you can do three dowel holes side by side and get similar results to a domino tenon joint. At a fraction of the price.
This tool is interesting although in two years it’s shot up from $199 to $260 (30%)plus shipping is $50 so well in excess of buying a plate joiner. With a router you’re certainly over $500 just to do tenons. No bueno
Stick to a plate joiner and if you’re obsessed then get a dowel jig for extra strength
Great design and nice review, that tool machining can cost easily >1000 euro here in Europe
Where can you buy it???????
I think this is Fantastic and will definitely check it out , also I now have subscribed to you page
when can buy Tianul jig ？
Super!!!
A good attachment for a router ...
Thanks for your review.
How do you make a hole if the joinery is in the middle not in the corner?
Take your router out of this jig and put it in its original base, then run it up against a straight edge.
are these available in the UK?
I'm not sure...but I guess they will ship?
Dove posso trovare questo attrezzo
Really good accessorie
Que bueno que salio un producto que reemplase a la festool domino porque la festool domino 500 es demaciado caro , salusos desde chile
would love a ebay item number has i cant find one
Bonjour,peut-il être livré en Belgique. Si oui,à quel prix en euros.
Looks wonderful!!!!!!! I want one .
Salut comment peut-on acheter cette machine j'ai vraiment besoin de ça je suis actuellement au Liban ???
Seems like very high precision manufacture... I like it !
BTW ... whats that metal block strapped to your wrist ? 🙄😂 a rare sight these days...
😎👍☘🍺
I have the domino DF500. Just bought this on their website for less than $60 with free shipping. I'll keep this in my truck for on site work. The domino stays in my shop.
very cool!!
I’m currently working on something similar but uses a drill instead, I like this design, when will it be in stock? Thanks
I want to go across the face, in the middle. Haven't found a good explanation for how to do that yet, by any means.
Sold out !!! When can i buy it ?
What about building it for European neck standard. 43 mm?
I'll ask the product vendor. I know they're working on a design to fit larger routers, but not sure about the European standards
What happened to this jig ?????????? the links are dead.
I like a lot !
Where can I buy it?
It's a great idea but the bit appears dangerously exposed. Your mileage may vary but a re-design with some sort of cover (plexiglass maybe) would turn me from wary to purchaser.
Two-axis in-hands pantorouter. :D
It certainly is an ideal solution for joining in small projects, but I would prefer a larger biscuit joiner for larger sized builds. You don't necessarily have to purchase a Festool. That being said, where does one purchase the plugs for this style mortise? Good review.
I actually made my own plugs on my table saw haha
Good tools...like it
It's great tool
I can't find it can you put a link where to buy please
unitedclamps.ca/products/domino-jig-for-makita-rt0701c?variant=40535780491447
The cost is 250 not 199.. but this jig is cool, with a 50€ mortise on amazon it's good opportunitie
So awesome and amazing jig, i love this!!!!
Yea I was surprised with how well this works!
It's a shame they will not deliver to the UK, I tried to buy one on eBay and they refused to deliver to my address
Спасибо за обзор! Но не нашёл где его купить. Вещь не заменимая.
Hello! plunge router with edge guide
donde se puede comprar¿
Kann man so ein Gerät kaufen mit 43er Spannhals.
Makita 18Vの充電器(2個)とドリルを所有。バッテリー🔋電動機の初期投資は少々お高い。が、本体のみの値段はそんなに負担にならない。国内で手に入るならマキタのルーター購入考えようかなぁ。
请问那个榫头怎么制作？
可以用台锯锯出小木条然后切短就好
谢谢🙏还要琢磨琢磨😅老师能拍个视频教一下就好了😅谢谢🙏
I think it great !
The price is not $ 160. the US $ as you mentioned here?
oh...at the time when I made the video, it was at that price...
Wow this is exciting. Does the makita jig work with the new Hikoki M1808DA trim router?
hmm I'm not familiar with the Hikoki M1808DA. But if its 65mm, then yes it will work this jig. Also I believe the maker of this jig if now offering new version which supports different spindle diameters.
@@DingsWorkshop Thank you my friend
感觉的确是不错的。只是价格还是小贵了一点，能控制在120一下就超赞了。
谢谢！
谢谢谢谢！！
What kind of bit are you using?
I used a 8mm upcut bit
@@DingsWorkshop awesome! So what size domino corresponds with that??
I used 8mm domino to test haha. I’ve also made my own 8mm thick strips, worked well too
@@DingsWorkshop what shank size does this router take?
老羅大哥 那個 機械 掃邊機 這個價值多少錢 麻煩你回覆我一下我想買謝謝
目前的售价是250加币： unitedclamps.ca/products/domino-jig-for-makita-rt0701c?variant=40535780491447
How can I order one.. can someone give me some information thank you.
????
這個Jig非常有創意。
确实非常有创意！
Где купить??!!!! Дайте ссылку