Savage Axis II 243 review: part 3 Ammo test with the new barrel.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 มิ.ย. 2023
- My son's Axis comes back from the factory with a new barrel that has the correct twist rate in it this time. I test out a few different factory ammunition through it and give you my overall impression of the rifle.
#huntingrifle #rangeday #243 #sendit
First off, I don’t own a Savage. But, I’ve watched all 3 videos and I have to say. Finally, someone that openly admits he’s working with the cheapest gun on the market but yet doesn’t call it junk. He’s doing it for his kid. And for that reason alone, you’ve got my 100% respect. That’s his gun. He won it. And he will remember this for the rest of his life. Your one helluva Dad.
I have over 3,000 rounds out of my Savage Axis 223 (no accutrigger) it shoots extremely well - it still has the same scope/rings I put on it when I purchased it - did no stock swap/bedding or anything. It's not an ugly rifle when I go coyote hunting I look at it and it looks good - well balanced and I do not mind if I have it resting on the ground or next to a tree.
For those looking into getting the Axis II….look into the APEX. You get the 3 position safety , the one piece rail, adjustable LOP stock , accutrigger and a Vortex Crossfire II scope.
It may save you from having to upgrade the Axis piece by piece.
I filled my Axis II's stock's forends with expansion cement known as ROCKITE. Drilled bridging holes in the webbing to tie the chambers together (future jobs may use heated pins or cut up old drill bits pushed through to act as rebar) and filled to 1/16" below webbing height. Solid as a rock.
Also bedded barrel chamber area (wrap elec tape 1" behind forend tip to align bbl within stock channel. But for ~$200 you could just do the BOYD route.)
Have had good results using shaft collars as barrel tuners (YT'er gave me the idea, ep. titled "$2 barrel tuner"). Once you've determined the best load to use attach the tuner and adjust.
Have installed a couple of MATTHEW'S FABRICATIONS kydex cheek risers. Definite improvement regarding cheek weld consistency.
I got my first savage axis XP two in 2013 in a 30-06 I'm big fan but when they got rid of the Logo I haven't got the new one with out the logo and new stock. Good video my son has the Savage Axis one 243 win. He was to take it hunting for Deer. O ya it used for $150 he wanted New but $100 off New not bad.
I got my first hunting rifle it was an axis ll 243 savage and the bullets would jam and get stuck so we took in and it took the two months to reline the barrel and they replaced the scope because it was crap but now it shoots perfect
I’ve got the .308 . That joker is a tac driver . I was getting two inch groups at 300 yrds . Had to change to a tactical scope to get that group.
Magpul suppose to be coming out with there hunter lite stock for the savage axis here soon. Mite be a great option lighter aluminum bedding blocks and its adjustable.
I forgot about your situation with that incorrect twist rate. Luckily TH-cam brought me back for the updated video.
Got my son the 308 stainless version. Amazing accuracy, however, that stock is not adjustable. It looks like it is, but when I tried to remove the shim I was in for a sad surprise. It is designed in such a way that there is no way to fit a smaller shim on it and no way to remove the existing shim and add back the butt plate. I "re-engineered" the stock and it works well. I was also able to improve the trigger and I have it down to 1.5lbs. Before anyone says anything it is perfectly safe with the giant "AccuRelease" lever safety. Added a Leupold scope and off to the range. My son loves it. Heck, I love it. First two 150 SST handloads touching at 100yards. 0.75 MOA groups. Your mileage may vary. My son took a nice little 3 point with it as his first deer.
Disclaimer: Never attempt to modify a trigger unless you know exactly what you are doing. Any modification that affects the operation of the firearm (ie. full auto) is illegal even if you did it by accident. But, this is a bolt gun, So no risk of that.
It's dumb that they don't design the butt pad to fit without the spacers. You can buy the youth model butt pad that will work without the spacer, just have to spend more money to make it work 🤑
I changed my out to a boids wood stock it made All the difference
I have one in .243. With Norma ammo and a good rest. Its bullseyes all day long.
There’s no doubt a lot of savage rifles shoot quite well. Although, they make some down right fugly looking firearms.
I'm a big fan of the axis rifles.. handloading will stack um
I'm looking for components now. Probably make a video on that too, maybe compare it to my 6 Creedmoor.
Nice review.
Watching Who Tee Who Savage Axis 1 with 243 Winchester 100 yards groupings ❤❤❤
My Savage is the Hunter version came with a scope already mounted and sighted in. Its a tack driver . Straight out of the box with Winchester super X 95 grain bullets.
You can't buy a gun already sighted in out of the box
@@jerrydelp7973technically, yes you can.
@@shortbow5875 no you can't moron
Use a box cutter and trim the interior stock channel and ensure it is free floated. Rockite the forend and then spray seal waterproof it after Rockite dries to seal it. Rockite the rear of the stock under the recoil pad. It makes the stock rigid and adds weight to balance it.
Ensure the action screws are torqued down to stock pillar bedding and take the trigger down to 3lbs. It is SUB MOA with handloads.
Form what I have seen with polymer stocks
Free float and bed the action makes a difference
I'll make another video on the upgrades we do, it might be a bit though. I've got a few other videos in the works first.
Seems like looking at these groups, the rifle does better when it’s warm. Just my observation
Nice
I have a Ruger r.s.i. I use a 100 grain bullet.
Replace the barrel, Replace the Scope, Replace the stock. I’ll definitely be buying a Savage rifle lol
🤣🤣🤣
Bi-pods off a hard surface is not gd. The muzzle is jumping around.
Pods work best with forward pressure and a piece of carpet under pods.
I have Axis in 25-06 and shoots half inch at 200 with 110 eld-x
I think you could have shot some better groups if you could have preloaded the bipod. Your bench looked slick as ice and the gun was jumping all over the place. Yeah, that stock is definitely flimsy.
Definitely had some issues with it. The gun doesn't weigh enough to hold itself down on the table like most of my other rifles do. I thought about shooting it prone on the ground but that also makes filming it more difficult.
These barrels heat up very very fast. It has to cool after 3 shots or accuracy isn’t there.
How’d you end up getting this rifle to shoot? I just got one ordered in left handed for a beater tractor gun.
I sent it back and they replaced the barrel with one with the correct twist rate.
What was the reason it didn't have the Correct Twist from the factory in the first place??
That's a really good question, I'm guessing it was somebody's first day on the job🤣
What was the original twist rate and how did you discover it was incorrect? With the right ammo, they can shoot. My Axis .243 shoots a number of hand loads sub MOA.
The first barrel had a 1in 12 twist, at 50 yards the bullets were keyholing on paper. I used a cleaning rod with a jag and tight fitting patch to measure it.
@@thelonggunner762 Interesting. So it had a 22-250 twist rate but chambered for .243. Concerning that it slipped passed their QC. At least the bore wasn't constricted.
@fredthompson1279 they make a heavy barrel varmint version that is supposed to be a 1 in 12 just for shooting light projectiles but the rest should all be the faster rate. Who knows what happened at the factory, might have been somebody's first day on the job🤣 got the setting mixed up. They made it right in the end though.
@@thelonggunner762 Ahh, didn't realize the made a slow twist for .243. Great that they quickly made it right. I put mine in a Boyds thumbhole stock. It loves the 75gr V max and 95gr SST by some Varget.
What brand of cheek riser are you using?
I got them from Brownell's about 15 years ago. I think they were made by Kick eez but I don't know if they make that version anymore.
How the hell did they put the wrong twist in a barrel?
That's a really good question and who knows how many others got barreled wrong like mine.
Available in abroad?
Had the wrong twist rate? Or do you mean you wanted a different twist rate? What twist rate did it have? And why did you change it and to what twist rate? Educate me. I want to know what to buy if I get one.
It had the wrong twist rate in the barrel when we got it. It had a 1 in 12 twist in it. (The varmint barrel ttwist rate) The factory style number says it was supposed to have the 1 in 9.25 twist which is more of a general purpose for deer and varmint capable of stabilizing heavier projectiles. Iwould bet there is a whole batch of rifles miss barreled just like mine out there. I saw they had a batch of 300 blackout guns go out with the wrong twist rate as well.
@@thelonggunner762 Oh, I couldn't understand why you said it was wrong. Thanks for the reply. Hope all goes well for you.
I think you need help dropping some brass on the ground looks fun nothing like that here is hot land Florida my brass of choice is 300 win mag a Nemo arms rifle and 338 lapua mag in my drd tactical rifle miss the country
I got to shoot some Nemo rifles a few years ago. I was pretty impressed with their accuracy, very nice rifles.
@@thelonggunner762 haven't shot mine yet getting a Burris eliminator three don't know what rifle to put it on yet
What twist rate did the previous barrel have?
1 in 12
So............What twist did it have and what twist does it now have?
It had a 1 in 12, they replaced it with a 1 in 9.25
What twist does it have the barrel...??
1:9.25
Good relible acrat rifel but absolutely hat the stock is y i wil never by savage
In the near future the stock is getting upgraded and possibly the bolt handle
@thelonggunner762 hope they do alot better on the stocks I own a 30/06 110 and I just love that rifle but there polmer stocks r just trash
Wish you could have had some 105 grain berger vld
I would've liked to try the full spectrum of bullet weights from 58gr to 105gr but selection was limited. I bought one box of everything they had in stock.
My Walmart savage shoots 105 grain berger vld very good, @3080
Velocity has a way of stabilizeing in the Gray area of twist rate
Ever gun is different
I hand load to the gun,it may not group in another of same caliber
100 yards?
Yes
Cut the stock and put a butt stock over it. What the old timers did
I tried to watch this. Why you use a bi-pod instead of a rest and sand bags may be most of your problem. I made it five minutes. You even changed the height of the “wobble ‘pods”!
I had a heavy front bag I would use for testing but the blast fom an AR muzzle break shredded the ends of it and I haven't gotten around to getting a new one yet. Seems like the newer ones aren't built as well as my old one.
where is speed evaluation ? t down
I was just shooting all this ammo to do the break in period on the barrel, it should be speeding up as I went along throwing off results anyway. This will likely be the last factory ammo it ever shoots. I'll do velocity testing when I start the handloading process in a future video.
1st shot burned out the solvent????? You ever hear of hydraulic action in a barrel??? Never fire before the oils solvents and grease are cleaned out. That barrel is likely scrap.
I cleaned the barrel with Shooters Choice MC 7 before starting and then again about half way through the testing. Even when you run a few dry patches down the barrel at the end of cleaning you never get all the solvent out. The first shots when chronographed are always off on velocity due to burning off the remaining chemicals.
You need a blanket under that bipod. Any downward torque will throw you
off. You aren't going to get real accuracy with that tall butt bag either.
Look at the trees blowing only a fool would try to get accurate shooting in that weather
In reality this whole video is just me shooting at least 100 rounds through it to break the barrel in so I can start the load development next. At 100 yards the wind may have pushed them around a little but its still good enough to let me know if the gun likes the projectile or not and if its a candidate for reloading. This gun will probably never see another box of factory ammo again.
With all money spent testing why not just sell that budget rifle and get a Bergara B14
My son won it at a RMEF banquet and he wants to keep it. I own a Bergara premier in 6 Creed and it is definitely a better rifle. Just one more rifle I get to tinker with i guess.
For hell sakes be professional. It's not hornaday it's Hornady. Hor-na-dee.
Too much wind and the gun is bouncing around too much. Can’t take anything away from any of this. Wasted some ammo and my time.
Might help if you sight it in better and stop letting the gun move so much