Hi Ben and Jack, thank you so much for the video. I’m a 40 year old musician who’s been dealing with this for about 6 months. It is constant on one side, the volume changes, and sometimes the sound. It’s been the toughest thing I’ve ever had to deal with in my life. About 4 months ago I was at my lowest, videos like this have lifted me up and brought me back to some normalcy. Thanks again-Jay
I supplement this thesis with this ... that when someone is under great stress..there are strong vibrations inside the cochlea and sensory hairs collide with each other..and so they send more different sounds at the height of the brain ... now the question remains how to lift those folded hairs or destroy without damaging those that are not folded .... I'm sure I'm right ..
Perhaps by fasting and eating a very low carb diet could give the time and the resources for your body to get rid of damaged cells and replace the broken ones. However, the person needs to be very strong-minded as it is a lifestyle hard to stick to and maintain for a few months.
Going through a loud spike myself; am exploring that it may be related to neck tension and stress. All three coincided, and can't just be a coincidence!
Is the secret of tinnitus that when the ear hairs are slightly folded, they touch the neighboring ones and an electrical impulse is sent to the brain ..because how else to explain that someone has only minimal hearing loss and has permanent tinnitus ... and someone who has total hearing loss does not tinnitus ... an example of my neighbor who can't hear anything without hearing aids and doesn't have a bit of tinnitus ... my thesis is that her cochlear sensory hairs have fallen off ... they are not folded ... and they can't touch the neighboring ones ... maybe that's where tinnitus develops
Tinnitus is definitely a physiological problem that impacts you neurologically a lot. I had never heard about tinnitus in my life and got it basically overnight after loud noise exposure.
The mind is it's own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven. Dr. Thompson, this video is a great detailed explanation of tinnitus versus the physical parts of our hearing. I'm glad you distinguished between the neurological and the physiological. Its helps reduce my fears of everyday external noises.
Many of my musician friends suffer terribly from Tinnitus. Famous and not so famous. The bravado and pride among many of these people who at one point used Tinnitus as a badge of honour stopped many of them reaching out for help. Though times are changing.
I’m 35 now and have a similar story leading to how I got here. I always had slight ringing always knew from playing drums and working in Manufacturing it was just normal. Something just triggered it to spike very bad where I B can’t get it off my mind, it’s been a few weeks and it’s terrifying to think of living like this forever. Thanks for giving me hope that it will subside sometime. I’m going to take my hearing seriously from here on out.
Hey Hanger 18, thank you for the comment. We are glad to know that our videos have helped you. Enjoy exploring our other TH-cam videos, as well as blog articles on treblehealth.com
@@Berte_1 still ringing.. I have a different frequency in each ear. I stay away from complete silence and I can put it out of my mind mostly. I’m a lot more cautious of how loud my surroundings are now.
Musicians have selective hearing. We can concentrate on what we want to hear. After 50yrs in the job I have a hiss at times but ignore it & playing is OK. Trouble = when mixing. I don't know if a line-in is clean or not. Still, you do it anyway & see if someone else hears something irregular. Lesson = Music doesn't have to be LOUD to be exciting. More Musos playing smaller venues creates more diversity & more work for all of us. Rock Stars & their greedy managers have a lot to answer for. VOLUME is only one part of expression. Excuse my aging crankiness. Just glad I don't have to play those gigs any more to pay the rent. Thanks for this great video.
Yeah, you are right. Unfortunately for us, it is too late. We took for granted those loud rehearsals with no ear protection or were just ignorant. I was always aware to use plugs but even while using them, repeated exposure…. It was no match. I have a low level hiss in both ears now.
As a DJ with tinnitus following a set that was just too loud, my audiogram is normal but when I test higher frequencies (12khz) with my own studio tools, I have around 20db loss at those frequencies in the affected hear. Audiograms are not precise enough for a lot of noise-induced hearing loss that can be specific to a few frequencies (they stop at 8Khz).
I'm a drummer who didn't start until I was 39 yo. I went to many loud big concerts and local shows starting at age 16. One night about 20 years ago, the guitarists turned up their amps really loud in our new rehearsal location. They did it again the next week. Dudes, you have got to turn it down! That's when it started full-time. Previously, it would diminish after a day or two. It has gotten progressively worse over the years compounded by the occasional times I forgot my plugs. I tried like hell to get my last bass player to turn down with no luck. It is really loud now and I have been playing less frequently or outdoors whenever possible. I wear noise canceling headphones when I play and have requested more visual cues. When not playing, I keep a white noise machine on 24/7, and a fan in the warmer months to help mask it. I recently saw a headline that said something about tinnitus induced dementia which has me somewhat concerned as that runs in my family. I have to research it and inform my neurologists about it.
OK, Ben, This has been the most important of your videos for me. I've been communicating with you for several months, from Southern Oregon, and the more I've seen, the clearer my approach has become. I've had my audiogram, (2 weeks ago) and have a consultation next week. In my choir rehearsal last night, my director was telling me that I was slightly sharp as I was trying to blend with the other singers. The Widex Sheer is on my list of good potential starting points. I'll keep you posted.
I played guitar for 30 years, many paid gigs. Now loud tinnitus is like my hearing is cracked. I quit playing guitar. Gotta love Covid, the gift that's keeps on giving.
I'm so sorry to hear about your struggles with tinnitus after years of playing guitar. It must be incredibly frustrating. I recommend visiting your local audiologist-they can offer guidance and support for managing your tinnitus and treat the possible hearing loss. Take care!
Hi Ben, I used to use in ear monitoring (IEM), did 2 gigs back to back and had a massive spike. I then panicked and gave it all up a year ago. I thought maybe I had the IEMs up too loud, but now wonder if it was just a coincidence? Then I heard someone say IEMs are very bad due to their close proximity to the ear!! What's your opinion on IEMs and how to use them. Sorry, some conflated issues there 🙂
I have played electric guitar since 1969. I developed tinnitus through an ear infection about 11 years. In my opinion you should no longer expose yourself to any amount of loud music. Why? Because it can get much worse with additional hearing damage. I haven't been to a live show since I got tinnitus and I have switched to playing only acoustic guitar. Anyone who tells you that you can continue to expose yourself to loud music is giving you very bad advice. Continued exposure to loud noise is a terrible idea. This realisation is a very hard to deal with if you are a professional musician.
It sounds like you've been through a challenging journey with tinnitus, especially as a musician. Your advice about avoiding loud music to prevent further damage is valuable and aligns with expert recommendations. Thank you for sharing your experience and insights!
I find my tinnitus changing when the weather changes fall and winter is the best time for my tinnitus doesn't kick in I can actually hear better but when it comes to spring and summer and the changes of the environment I find it too that it kicks in even more And gets a lot louder would this have something to do with environmental pressure having it for 15 years I would like to have some kind of an answer I think of something to check into thank you dr. Ben. I live in the apart of the United States I live in the state of Rhode Island
That is literally exactly my experience even down to the number of years. And it is the thing that makes me crazy. Because it seems like it has a correlation that should be able to be explained. But they're never seems to be a good answer unfortunately it is what it is. I live in San Diego and you may not think that the weather systems come in and go out but they're pretty much every 3 days something going on. Maybe one day I'll be able to understand it. It's almost as though I don't want the really quiet days because when the really bad days hit it's even more shocking seems crazy to say.
Great video!! Thanks a lot for sharing! Question: I got tinnitus 3 months ago and it's not too bad, some days better wome days worse but in general not too bad. Anyways, I have a gig coming up in a month and 14 gigs around christmas and I have to make a decision if I should do the gigs or not so my question is: We often talk about the important aspect of earplugs but the gigs I have coming up involves inears. As I understand it headphones can be a bit risky (?) so what would be recommended for a situation like this?
Hi Magnus, you asked some good personalized questions here. My answer depends on more information that I do not yet know about your history. Feel free to contact our team at Treble Health and we can do our best to help you.
Dr. Thompson, thank you for all your information, I have few questions and information if you could consider answering. I've had tinnitus for over 30 years caused by a faulty smoke detector alarm. if I have tinnitus in my left ear, should I wear earplugs in both ears? I have heard that earplugs can actually trap the tinnitus sound in and sound also can trigger the tinnitus coming in from your eyes, nose and mouth. When I got to the dentist I was told not to wear earplugs because the drilling and cleaning tools can trigger tinnitus from the inside of you mouth. The worst part of all is I play drums in a bagpipe band and the pitch of these instruments is the worst case scenario. I wear an earplug and industrial headphones on my left ear while practicing music indoors and musicians earplugs called Vibes the rest of the time performing outdoors. Thanks for all your help and work on the issues many of us are having.
Hello Susan, you asked some good personalized questions here. My answer depends on more information that I do not yet know about your history. Feel free to contact our team at Treble Health and we can do our best to help you.
I follow this kanal from Denmark. her are so much god information for Tinnitus, thanks for doing this🙏 after Hearing this podcast I nede to go back to My dans to be happy. But Please tell Me which Earphones (in Ear) are you recommend so I Can hear the teacher and the musik same time? Best Regards
can tinnitus masker 20db volume pink noise ... hearing aid..but only sound therapy is used without hearing enhancement ... with open silicone olive damage hearing and worsen tinnitus if worn for 10 hours a day for 2 years ??
@@joelflores5625 Yes. But first you need to leave any benzodiasepines slowly. You can speak spanish if you spanish, is my first language. Let me know why you think you need to take it?? Tell me your story and whats going on with details. I have been researching about this for 2 years and iam finnaly well. My health is like never before. I preffer spanish, easier for me.
@@joelflores5625 First, i guess you suffering from tinittus? Let me know when it started, any hazard like laud music for long time, gunshoots, war comba. I just want to know whats your problem and help you with the right info men. Take your time and ask me all. You are welcome.
@@joelflores5625 Natural gaba is same as klonacepam and gavaoentin, same efect after 15 days. It creates GABA a neurotransmiter that goes away with stress. Ones you brain get low on that, your body loo control y many ways. The problemclonazepam help you but the withdrawl is crazy. natural is better
@@alexstrings Poštovani prijatelju, ja sam napustio sve benzose,ali koristim samo antidepresiv Mirzaten 30 mg. Nabavio sam Gabu ! Da li ja smijem sad piti Gabu za noć. Pošto Mirzaten uzimam za noć, radi spavanja. Imam 63 godine i tinitus već 1,5 godina,a dobio sam ga od jednog lijeka za visoki tlak : Codalneva 10 mg. Molim te odgovor!!! Pozdrav iz Hrvatske!!!! Vlado Kupčak
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Viagra is ototoxic.
Hi Ben and Jack, thank you so much for the video. I’m a 40 year old musician who’s been dealing with this for about 6 months. It is constant on one side, the volume changes, and sometimes the sound. It’s been the toughest thing I’ve ever had to deal with in my life. About 4 months ago I was at my lowest, videos like this have lifted me up and brought me back to some normalcy. Thanks again-Jay
Appreciate your comment, Jay! Be well. :)
Mine started after 4 months of severe anxiety due to personal problems. *A professional violinist*
I supplement this thesis with this ... that when someone is under great stress..there are strong vibrations inside the cochlea and sensory hairs collide with each other..and so they send more different sounds at the height of the brain ... now the question remains how to lift those folded hairs or destroy without damaging those that are not folded .... I'm sure I'm right ..
This is probably correct
Perhaps by fasting and eating a very low carb diet could give the time and the resources for your body to get rid of damaged cells and replace the broken ones. However, the person needs to be very strong-minded as it is a lifestyle hard to stick to and maintain for a few months.
Going through a loud spike myself; am exploring that it may be related to neck tension and stress. All three coincided, and can't just be a coincidence!
How are you now?
Same here, and what you said makes so much sense. I’m under a lot of stress right now and it’s worse.
Is the secret of tinnitus that when the ear hairs are slightly folded, they touch the neighboring ones and an electrical impulse is sent to the brain ..because how else to explain that someone has only minimal hearing loss and has permanent tinnitus ... and someone who has total hearing loss does not tinnitus ... an example of my neighbor who can't hear anything without hearing aids and doesn't have a bit of tinnitus ... my thesis is that her cochlear sensory hairs have fallen off ... they are not folded ... and they can't touch the neighboring ones ... maybe that's where tinnitus develops
Brings to mind sun damage [which I also have]. Nerves are damaged and continually send signals.
Interesting, and what would it be your theory for someone with hyperacusis (sensitiveness to loud noises) ?
Tinnitus is definitely a physiological problem that impacts you neurologically a lot. I had never heard about tinnitus in my life and got it basically overnight after loud noise exposure.
The mind is it's own place, and in itself can make a heaven of hell, a hell of heaven.
Dr. Thompson, this video is a great detailed explanation of tinnitus versus the physical parts of our hearing. I'm glad you distinguished between the neurological and the physiological. Its helps reduce my fears of everyday external noises.
Thanks for your comment, Prep. Glad it was helpful.
Many of my musician friends suffer terribly from Tinnitus. Famous and not so famous. The bravado and pride among many of these people who at one point used Tinnitus as a badge of honour stopped many of them reaching out for help. Though times are changing.
Just heard his interview on WCA Podcast, found his IG, and this video came out all in one week! Thanks to both of you
You're welcome, jd. Glad that you enjoyed it!
I’m 35 now and have a similar story leading to how I got here. I always had slight ringing always knew from playing drums and working in Manufacturing it was just normal. Something just triggered it to spike very bad where I B can’t get it off my mind, it’s been a few weeks and it’s terrifying to think of living like this forever. Thanks for giving me hope that it will subside sometime. I’m going to take my hearing seriously from here on out.
Hey Hanger 18, thank you for the comment. We are glad to know that our videos have helped you. Enjoy exploring our other TH-cam videos, as well as blog articles on treblehealth.com
How are you now?
@@Berte_1 still ringing.. I have a different frequency in each ear. I stay away from complete silence and I can put it out of my mind mostly. I’m a lot more cautious of how loud my surroundings are now.
Musicians have selective hearing. We can concentrate on what we want to hear. After 50yrs in the job I have a hiss at times but ignore it & playing is OK. Trouble = when mixing. I don't know if a line-in is clean or not. Still, you do it anyway & see if someone else hears something irregular.
Lesson = Music doesn't have to be LOUD to be exciting. More Musos playing smaller venues creates more diversity & more work for all of us.
Rock Stars & their greedy managers have a lot to answer for.
VOLUME is only one part of expression.
Excuse my aging crankiness. Just glad I don't have to play those gigs any more to pay the rent.
Thanks for this great video.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts, Deryck! We're so glad that it was helpful. You're so welcome.
Yeah, you are right. Unfortunately for us, it is too late. We took for granted those loud rehearsals with no ear protection or were just ignorant. I was always aware to use plugs but even while using them, repeated exposure…. It was no match. I have a low level hiss in both ears now.
Now that we know more about tinnitus scientifically, we need to work on the attitudes of musicians who are young, stupid, and won't take advice.
As a DJ with tinnitus following a set that was just too loud, my audiogram is normal but when I test higher frequencies (12khz) with my own studio tools, I have around 20db loss at those frequencies in the affected hear. Audiograms are not precise enough for a lot of noise-induced hearing loss that can be specific to a few frequencies (they stop at 8Khz).
Wow I recommended this my idea has come to fruition
Another premium information presentation
Never stops
Thank you so much!
Thanks so much! Great job from both of you. Excellent suggestions for managing tinnitus for us musicians
Glad you enjoyed it! You're welcome.
you are an absolute angel, thank you so much!! (:
I'm a drummer who didn't start until I was 39 yo. I went to many loud big concerts and local shows starting at age 16. One night about 20 years ago, the guitarists turned up their amps really loud in our new rehearsal location. They did it again the next week. Dudes, you have got to turn it down! That's when it started full-time. Previously, it would diminish after a day or two. It has gotten progressively worse over the years compounded by the occasional times I forgot my plugs. I tried like hell to get my last bass player to turn down with no luck.
It is really loud now and I have been playing less frequently or outdoors whenever possible. I wear noise canceling headphones when I play and have requested more visual cues. When not playing, I keep a white noise machine on 24/7, and a fan in the warmer months to help mask it. I recently saw a headline that said something about tinnitus induced dementia which has me somewhat concerned as that runs in my family. I have to research it and inform my neurologists about it.
OK, Ben, This has been the most important of your videos for me. I've been communicating with you for several months, from Southern Oregon, and the more I've seen, the clearer my approach has become. I've had my audiogram, (2 weeks ago) and have a consultation next week.
In my choir rehearsal last night, my director was telling me that I was slightly sharp as I was trying to blend with the other singers. The Widex Sheer is on my list of good potential starting points. I'll keep you posted.
I played guitar for 30 years, many paid gigs. Now loud tinnitus is like my hearing is cracked. I quit playing guitar. Gotta love Covid, the gift that's keeps on giving.
I'm so sorry to hear about your struggles with tinnitus after years of playing guitar. It must be incredibly frustrating. I recommend visiting your local audiologist-they can offer guidance and support for managing your tinnitus and treat the possible hearing loss. Take care!
thank you for this informative video
You're welcome, Gwin! Enjoy exploring our other TH-cam videos, as well as blog articles on our Treble Health website.
Great podcast. I’ve just built a new studio and will be looking into getting my hands on some of these ear plugs.
Great to hear! Thanks for your comment, Ian.
@@treblehealth were these ear plugs custom moulded? If not what over the counter ear plugs are best for mixing music?
Anyone know what Hunters earplugs he uses?
Hi Ben, I used to use in ear monitoring (IEM), did 2 gigs back to back and had a massive spike. I then panicked and gave it all up a year ago. I thought maybe I had the IEMs up too loud, but now wonder if it was just a coincidence? Then I heard someone say IEMs are very bad due to their close proximity to the ear!! What's your opinion on IEMs and how to use them. Sorry, some conflated issues there 🙂
I have played electric guitar since 1969. I developed tinnitus through an ear infection about 11 years. In my opinion you should no longer expose yourself to any amount of loud music. Why? Because it can get much worse with additional hearing damage. I haven't been to a live show since I got tinnitus and I have switched to playing only acoustic guitar. Anyone who tells you that you can continue to expose yourself to loud music is giving you very bad advice. Continued exposure to loud noise is a terrible idea. This realisation is a very hard to deal with if you are a professional musician.
It sounds like you've been through a challenging journey with tinnitus, especially as a musician. Your advice about avoiding loud music to prevent further damage is valuable and aligns with expert recommendations. Thank you for sharing your experience and insights!
I find my tinnitus changing when the weather changes fall and winter is the best time for my tinnitus doesn't kick in I can actually hear better but when it comes to spring and summer and the changes of the environment I find it too that it kicks in even more And gets a lot louder would this have something to do with environmental pressure having it for 15 years I would like to have some kind of an answer I think of something to check into thank you dr. Ben. I live in the apart of the United States I live in the state of Rhode Island
That is literally exactly my experience even down to the number of years. And it is the thing that makes me crazy. Because it seems like it has a correlation that should be able to be explained. But they're never seems to be a good answer unfortunately it is what it is. I live in San Diego and you may not think that the weather systems come in and go out but they're pretty much every 3 days something going on. Maybe one day I'll be able to understand it. It's almost as though I don't want the really quiet days because when the really bad days hit it's even more shocking seems crazy to say.
Olá jack tudo de bom pra vc ótimo trabalho sucesso ❤❤👏👏👏
Great video!! Thanks a lot for sharing!
Question: I got tinnitus 3 months ago and it's not too bad, some days better wome days worse but in general not too bad.
Anyways, I have a gig coming up in a month and 14 gigs around christmas and I have to make a decision if I should do the gigs or not so my question is: We often talk about the important aspect of earplugs but the gigs I have coming up involves inears. As I understand it headphones can be a bit risky (?) so what would be recommended for a situation like this?
Hi Magnus, you asked some good personalized questions here. My answer depends on more information that I do not yet know about your history. Feel free to contact our team at Treble Health and we can do our best to help you.
Dr. Thompson, thank you for all your information, I have few questions and information if you could consider answering. I've had tinnitus for over 30 years caused by a faulty smoke detector alarm. if I have tinnitus in my left ear, should I wear earplugs in both ears? I have heard that earplugs can actually trap the tinnitus sound in and sound also can trigger the tinnitus coming in from your eyes, nose and mouth. When I got to the dentist I was told not to wear earplugs because the drilling and cleaning tools can trigger tinnitus from the inside of you mouth. The worst part of all is I play drums in a bagpipe band and the pitch of these instruments is the worst case scenario. I wear an earplug and industrial headphones on my left ear while practicing music indoors and musicians earplugs called Vibes the rest of the time performing outdoors. Thanks for all your help and work on the issues many of us are having.
Hello Susan, you asked some good personalized questions here. My answer depends on more information that I do not yet know about your history. Feel free to contact our team at Treble Health and we can do our best to help you.
Great video! Thank you.
Glad you liked it!
Great interview and content
Thank you for the comment, James! Enjoy exploring our other TH-cam videos, as well as blog articles on our Treble Health website.
It can go away!
I follow this kanal from Denmark. her are so much god information for Tinnitus, thanks for doing this🙏 after Hearing this podcast I nede to go back to My dans to be happy. But Please tell Me which Earphones (in Ear) are you recommend so I Can hear the teacher and the musik same time? Best Regards
I have another recommendation Cotton Kandi Raves a regular concert goer who has T.
Will check that. Thank you!
Consuming vitamin b helps a lot!
Awesome. Thanks for sharing, Alexis! Be well. :)
B12, celery juice ( inflammation ) fish oil, zinc, magnesium, NAC, Tumeric, multivitamin are my daily supplements.
I am curious what a spike to Jack sounds like. Sometimes after a loud night, a workout ,or a salty meal etc, my T is louder. Is that a spike ?
Correct.
can tinnitus masker 20db volume pink noise ... hearing aid..but only sound therapy is used without hearing enhancement ... with open silicone olive damage hearing and worsen tinnitus if worn for 10 hours a day for 2 years ??
I’m a musician, 47, I think something’s up with your audio here-all I heard was “EEEEEEEEEEEE”😏
Anyways, thanks for the video, very helpful!
🎵You say Tin-Night-us. I say Tin-nit-iss.
Let’s make the ringing stop. 🎶
Even worse than Tinnitus is Dysacusis. Any other Pro Musicians out there experience this?
I’m 35 years in the music business and all I got NOT to show for it was tinnitus 👂🏻 lol
We need medicine, doctor ... something that will block receptors from producing a scream ... even if you drink it every day for life
4-5 beers all is nonissue!
Please comment to see if this is true for everyone
Natural GABA before sleep
@alexander does natural gaba help you sleep
@@joelflores5625 Yes. But first you need to leave any benzodiasepines slowly. You can speak spanish if you spanish, is my first language. Let me know why you think you need to take it?? Tell me your story and whats going on with details. I have been researching about this for 2 years and iam finnaly well. My health is like never before. I preffer spanish, easier for me.
@@joelflores5625 First, i guess you suffering from tinittus? Let me know when it started, any hazard like laud music for long time, gunshoots, war comba. I just want to know whats your problem and help you with the right info men. Take your time and ask me all. You are welcome.
@@joelflores5625 Natural gaba is same as klonacepam and gavaoentin, same efect after 15 days. It creates GABA a neurotransmiter that goes away with stress. Ones you brain get low on that, your body loo control y many ways. The problemclonazepam help you but the withdrawl is crazy. natural is better
@@alexstrings Poštovani prijatelju, ja sam napustio sve benzose,ali koristim samo antidepresiv Mirzaten 30 mg. Nabavio sam Gabu ! Da li ja smijem sad piti Gabu za noć. Pošto Mirzaten uzimam za noć, radi spavanja. Imam 63 godine i tinitus već 1,5 godina,a dobio sam ga od jednog lijeka za visoki tlak : Codalneva 10 mg. Molim te odgovor!!! Pozdrav iz Hrvatske!!!! Vlado Kupčak
Ben do you have instagram I would like to personal message you about something?
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