This seems to be a buy-it-for-life product, which is great. Enough cycles to last for years and years, and then it's fully serviceable and not a bunch of waste. Seems like a fantastic concept. I wish the company success, I like their build philosophy.
While the battery capacity is higher than the newer Ecoflow and Bluetti units, it is far bulkier, since you need a separate inverter, separate MPPT, separate DC-DC Charger, and separate AC Charger. The Ecoflow and Bluetti have that all built in, at the cost of some battery capacity. The name brands are far more mobile since they're all-in-one. This battery box will however work nicely in a more permanent install, for example in a canopy setup.
Hey mate, thanks for you comment and watching. Agree the All in ones are very compact and I think this is where 12v is going, I just don't think anyone has nailed it yet. You have to trade something off to get the compact unit. And for some reason the all in ones have shocking cycle life's. I found an interesting unit in WA but can't get my hands on one, Vhedia make it.
They don’t really have a dc dc charger, the dc charge is by cig socket and only charges at low amps, would take over 20 hours of driving to recharge. The inverters are very small capacity too. What I like about this is I wouldn’t need an inverter solar, so I can pick and choose what I want to charge it with
Have you visited their assembly area just at the back of their store? It’s worth to visit. By the way, I know they use Ganfeng lithium Grade A cells. Ganfeng has contracts with VW, BMW, LG chemicals and TESLA. Just amongst all other big companies that use lithium batteries of all types. I have used the same 12V 200AH BWB LiFePO4 battery and cooked rice about 4 times during our camping and didn’t run out of power. They do offer lifetime service even if it has expired the 5 years warranty. I have done my due diligence researching for other brands in the market and this is by far the most affordable, not overpriced or course, and very powerful and reliable! A must try product, I must say. ❤
I actually got taken on a tour! Filmed it but they were working on a contract with clasifed stuff or something and I wasn't able to use the footage. They are very impressive batteries, we are so happy with ours
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting means alot 😁 Honestly you wouldn't be disappointed with one of these! I'm considering giving the house battery a go 🤔
I agree that these types of 12v set ups will be great for those that go away for the long weekend, wanting something to power their 60L fridge, and charge their phones. The other brand that I have been keeping an eye on for when my current 12V system needs replacing is Muller Energy. Very similar, just that they have a 175a Anderson Plug, a touch screen and some bits to bolt the box down. This comes at an extra cost of about $250 when comparing 200ah. For a little fella, you didnt seem to have any trouble lifting and shifting that 36kg of batteries around :)
G'Day Gary thanks for watching again 🙂 Just checked them out, they are also very nice!! I definitely think any manufacturers that aren't going down this path have rocks in their heads. Only downside I could kind find to the Muller Energy battery was it only has 3800 cycles at 80% that is very very low, I don't get out of bed for anything less then 6000 😂🤣😂 PS What my body lacks in size it makes up in speed and strength 💪 hahah I was a personal trainer and tri athlete for 12 years.
@@Off.Track4x4 I personally wouldn’t discount any LFP with a cycle count of 4K or more. From my limited knowledge, lithium batteries also have a calendar life of around 10 years. Therefore if you are a heavy user of your lithium battery, cycle it once a day for 10 years, the calendar life of the lithium battery is likely to be the cause for the battery losing some of its capacity, not the cycle count.
You are correct lithium batteries will start to die out after 5 years. The storage capacity starts dropping very slowly that's why you find 5 years is the maximum warranty you will find on most batteries. If you do the maths your correct reaching 8000 cycles would be a massive effort to reach. Me personally I feel the numbers are pulled out of the air, but it's more so a conference factor from the manufacturer. Kings has one of the lowest cycle life's, I believe that's so that the battery runs out of cycles before the warranty period and they can blame any issues on that. Just my thoughts though I have no evidence to back this up.
Thanks for a easy to understand video...and an Aussie product. We are looking at an easy way of going off-grid in our van without spending an arm and a leg. Think this might fit the bill but can I power the fridge at home when we have a power outage why I like the portable power stations.
Hello Tracey, thank you for the kind words and support. I actually just received a portable power station for testing. I can't even get 6 hours out of it running the house fridge vs plug and Inverter into this and you will get almost 2 days.
We like camping with our 2kWh Bluetti plugged into our Tesla Model Y. We keep the Bluetti plugged into the car for charging. We can cook inside the tent with a portable induction cooker, when its raining too much for a fire, or an early morning or late at night cuppa. (BTW, it would be great if you could translate battery energy into modern battery energy units kWh)
Hello and thank you for watching and commenting 😊 I really appreciate it. I'm going to go out on a limb and say you aren't in Australia if your camping in a Tesla and you have the ability to charge 12v off your Electric vehicle? kWh is what 240v power is read in, 12v is all measured in Ah. Bluetti use kWh as they are mainly a 240v unit buy also they don't want people to know easily how low the storage capacity is at a 12v level. Again if your not in Australia it may be different in your country but that's how it Is over here 😊
@@Off.Track4x4 Yeah I live on the Central Coast of NSW. Our car has a humungous battery at 58 kWh capacity & it's a curious myth (total nonsense) that EVs are no good in the bush. We often go camping with this format. We can even charge it from solar panes via the Bluetti. I also work in the renewable energy space & well understand energy & battery language. Even AA & AAA batteries show energy energy storage capacity in Wh & kWh. Metric language is intuitive, as all appliances show power on the nameplate as Watts. Btw, my wife loves to take a fridge camping too, which runs either from the car, or the Bluetti.
Mate I'm not prepared to get it a fight with you over EVs or stupid shit like how to measure battery storage. Both give you same info. Good luck with your EV mate have a great night 🙂👍
The stainless box is great looking! Believe it or not, the charge / discharge duty cycle can have a dramatic affect, just as with lead acid batteries. Charging only to 80% and discharging to 50% will probably give close to 15000 cycles on most A grade LiFePO4 cells. Eco Flow and Bluetti rate theirs to 20% DOD for the 4000 cycles. BTW, that was a really nice vehicle charge setup with the 3 Anderson connectors!
Hey mate thanks for watching and commenting 🙂 I've heard the same thing, never charging to 100% can massively increase battery life. All my 12v stuff now has to be portable, so I can swap it between vehicles, horse float and caravan, much smarter then buying 4 set ups 🤣😂
Have the 100amp 48 v (400amp at 12v equivalent) imo they are very well built and with a victron 5000 inverter charger it runs the aircon for around 3.5 hrs no problems.
Buetti AC300+B300 gets like 3500 cycles. This thing looks like they bought all the parts off amazon like a Diy'er gotta say i do like it and will be doing my reserch for sure
Hey mate, thanks for supporting the channel, means alot. 3500 cycles is kings standed of batteries, I just don't understand why none of the all in ones can get 6000 cycles witch is a pass mark. I'm assuming heat must be killing the cells
Looks good but its interesting if you blow a basic 10A fuse you have to void the warranty to change it. Or send the unit back to have a $1 fuse changed 😅
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting, hope your enjoying the content 👍 Funny I actually thought the same thing when I opened it, I reckon a phone call to them and commonsense would prevail surly?
@Off.Track4x4 yeah I was almost sold until I saw that. Would be so easily remedied with some form of externally water resistant fuse holders or something. Common sense is to reliant on others to follow suit. Just opens up potential vulnerabilities.
Just spoke to my contact, removing the front control panel is perfect fine doesn't void warranty, they just don't want people tampering with the cells. Makes sense from a safety point view. Fuses can be replaced that way.
I've own both a 100ah and a 200ah battery they are great batteries!. But thats the thing they are batteries not power stations like blueitti etc. I run mine with a renogy dc- dc charger and a kickass mppt charger controller. The only fault i can find with these batteries after 2 years of usage, is the on/ off switch on the front get bumped and turns on the usb ports and drained the battery. Customer service at big wei batteries was fantastic and showed me how to reset bms to recharge. They might not have an ip rating but have had mine in a zodiac whilst i was careful not to get it wet, had no problem with water ingress. ( wouldn't recommend it though). Unlike cheaper lipo4 batteries they run the prismatic cells which long term make it a much cheaper option, in my opinion.
Hey mate. Check out Perth pro auto. They have their own portable power stations. With or without battery, inverter, dc dc etc. Build your own with 100 or 200 amp battery. Expensive with everything but by the time you add it all up, I think they work out ok. 🤷♂️
Very interesting 🤔 I like the look of the black one, blue one looks a bit cheap and nasty. I'd love to see them use a different battery though, only has a 175ah discharge rate, 200 would be better so you can bump the inverter up to a 2500w. But that's just me I don't like being limited 🤣😂
8000 cycles is a sales gimmick, it might be capable of achieving this at 20% dod, there is no data on their website related to life expectancy versus depth of discharge or how they calculated this figure. The specifications for the GFB cells inside is 3000 cycles to 80%dod at 0.5c discharge rate.
Hey mate, I agree with you I think cycle life's is a sales spec as I don't reckon anyone would reach 8000 cycles. I do how every think it shows how confident companies are with their products, once the cycle life is depleted the warranty is void. If you think your product is shit put on a 10 year warranty with 2000 cycles people will trust it because of the warranty. To put 8000 cycles and 5 year warranty shows they back their product.
Hey Michael, thanks for watching and commenting mate really appreciate it 🙂 It's not a battery box it's actually just a battery, my hardkorr that I show in the video is a battery box and has 65 less amp hours of storage. So amazing how small they have made it
They look quite robust and well made. However, they are not replacements for the bluetti, ecoflow etc. - they don't have mppt charging, 240V charging, 12V charging, they don't provide 240V outputs. I agree this modular approach means you aren't tossing out the whole thing, but its a long stretch to compare them to the portable power banks by bluetti etc. Its also incorrect to claim that you give up IP rating for serviceability - that is just not true. These packs serve a purpose, but not as you present them and you do them a disservice not presenting them for what they are.
Not sure you get the difference, but that is a battery and the Ecoflow and the Bluetti are all in 1. So no Mppt and inverter required as they are incorporated in the unit. That was the point of the thumbnail title?
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting. I'm guessing you are a new viewer to the channel, I did a video on the all in one units warning people not go get tricked into buying them. They do not live up to the hype when you break then down. Buying this battery and adding in inverter is a far better way of doing it. But go check out the video for my details 👍🙂 m.th-cam.com/video/7YVm3pAJT6w/w-d-xo.html
Bluetti and Ecoflow have LiFePO batteries as well, and last well beyond 1000 to 1500 cycles. You are referring to the first generation power stations. The newer versions last for thousands of hours before losing the top 20% of capacity and they don’t completely fail at that point as you are suggesting. I don’t know if you are misleading on purpose or because you are unfamiliar with the newer products.
that inverter would flatten than battery fast, your chart shows 2560w continuous power--- but the battery has a maximum discharge rate of 100amps--- thats 1300w continuous--- a 30 minute pulse is not continuous, the battery box looks a beauty--- but ffs surely people can camp without an inverter
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting 🙂 These days you would be surprised everyone wants 240 appliances with them, me a shower, stove and bed and I'm sweet 👍 But yes that battery can run a 2500w inverter no issues as you mentioned it's just for a maximum of 30mins to extend battery life I assume. A battery wouldn't be smart enough to know it's been 30mins.
Modern campers need to take an Induction cooktop, a coffee machine, a hair dryer, a hot shower, an electric blanket, a big stereo, 5000w of lighting, an air fryer and a microwave or they could not possibly survive one night without all this junk, it's great for the people supplying everything 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@666dualsport, I don't think Big Wei Batteries is suggesting that you pull 130A (30% over the 100A continuous rating) for 30 minutes; it's just an indication that it's more than capable of handling large momentary inrush currents in the likelihood that motors, fridges, induction cooktops, etc., kick in at the same time.
I like your product review ethics, it ensures a honest review. I like the stainless box and how its made but are the anderson sockets over current protected? Ive built a lfp battery box similar with same plug setup and put the dc-dc charger in there too but will move to the top as it gets hot. It'd be interesting if this box can handle our corrugated roads.
Hey Mike thanks for watching and commenting means alot. From what I could see no fuse or circuit breaks coming off the Andersons, looks like they are using the BMS as the safety. I all ways run circuit breaks in between my DCDC and battery, as well as my MPPT and battery. I would love to see them put a DCDC charger on top of this unit, yours sounds awesome 👌
Bluetti AC200L with wifi connect, we have two B300 batteries on it. Three easy to load components, not all this separate parts. If I want I can stack 14 twelve volt batteries in series when I land the unit. That will give us 22kv of power. Sorry mate, looks like a bit of a hassle.
Hey mate, bit for to lug around for sure but the big difference is the DC charging, capacity, life span and the fact that if one component breaks down you only have to replace that not the whole system. But I just got a portable power station that I'll be doing testing and comparing with so watch out for that
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting. 304 stainless grade is particularly rustproof because of its high nickel content it's a fantastic product to use. Not sure why you think it's crap?
@@terrybrown9516 I'm not sure why he has got so upset when you were only trying to educate him on the rust ability of 304 and made no critical comment at all
Looks decent, but the most critical component is the BMS, we need to know the quality / brand! The case is cool, i think a lot more SS builds will enter the market soon, though not super necessary when compared to plastic - cheaper and also doesnt rust. The other feature is the price, at $1500 for a 200aH battery. But honestly, this should be the standard.. what we've seen in this market is some of the worst price gouging in Australian history! If you could identify and cost each component, and estimate build time i recken they would still have a very healthy markup on these. The lifetime warranty and servicing is impressive though, and should attract a lot of buyers! At the end of the day, if the average consumer actually knew how easy it is to build something like this from chinese parts, we would all have a very different perspective on this entire market.
Hey Shawn thank you for your very knowledgeable feedback, I can tell you profit margins in the 4wd world has sky-rocketed since covid. I use to work for TJM and pre covid 25% GP was about the standard. I'd be saying 40% plus is the new standard now. It's up to us to buy from smaller companies not ripping us off to drive the big players down. With my channel I've been trying to help the smaller guys out.
Hey Wayne, Thanks for watching and commenting mate, means alot to help the channel grow 🙂 I just checked their website they aren't saying it will that 10 years, their saying if you use it 1s a day to 80% DOD you will get 10 years out of the 3000 cycle they warranty it for. Their standard warranty is only for 24months no where near 10 years. Good to see they have now made a DCDC charger but it's external to the unit not built in unsure why.
@@Off.Track4x4 I bought an Arkpak 10 years ago that does this and comes with built in charger, monitor, outputs and small inverter. Not sure how it's the future, but just my opinion 👍
Hey Kent thanks for watching and commenting, at 8000 cycles they just replace the cells all you pay is for the new cells no labour. With Bluetti and EcoFlow you need to replace your whole unit at 3500 cycles costing $2,600
I love the heavy duty battery connectors. Nice video but I have to agree, these are nice but similar price for all in one power station. So much more versatile that a battery pack, sorry
800 cycles that's shocking! Not very good cells then. I think the all in 1s are the way of the future, but no one has quite nailed it yet. Vhedia seem like they could be on to something though, just not enough data and I can't get my hands on one.
3000 cycles is still really low when you consider you have to replace the whole unit not just the cells. 6000 is what I think is minimum for it to be a good battery.
Hey Kim, Thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate your feed back and support. I'm pretty sure the weight was brought up in the specs section of the review.
There is no built-in inverter. It is just a simple Chinese lithium cell battery with Chinese parts and outlets. Only really the assembly is done in Australia, even though the publisher, in this case, is claiming it is Australian made. It's assembled from Chinese parts, as with most things these days. It is not the future but actually a blast from the past. People have been making exactly the same as DIY for probably 10 years and Big Wei do it as a business. I must say I've not heard a bad word about the company assembling and selling them though, but the publisher of this video is completely out of his depth going by his knowledge and his statements.
Mate that sentence doesn't even make sense? Did you complete your school education or drop out because you were to stupid and now spend your days putting idiotic comments on people's TH-cam videos to make your self feel big and strong?
@@Off.Track4x4 Hey mate your comment is rude and totally uncalled for, maybe you misunderstood me, it was for you to do the review without sunnys on as some people like to see the eyes of people doing reviews. Your review was very good and informative. It's such shame that you attacked me the way you did
Sorry my bad 🤦 I re read your comment from a less angry angle 🤣 sorry I was replying to an ass when your comment came through, my ASD blinds my judgement when when I get annoyed. I try my hardest to not let keyboard warriors get away with their hobby as a negative comment to a depressed person could be enough to push them over the edge. I apologise for putting you in that category I was completely in the wrong. I wear the sun glasses as I feel uncomfortable looking directly at the camera and my eyes look funny as a result in the videos, odd though if I hold the camera I have no issues looking at it 🤣😂 I'm assuming something linked to my ASD.
Interesting review. Would be interest in a 1year, 2 year and 3 year review but even a 6 month review would help a lot of viewers. Your probably going to stay away from any DCS reviews now lol, wouldn't blame you.
G'Day Philip, thanks for watching and commenting mate. You will see this battery in all my 12v and camping videos moving forward, so more then happy to do milestone reviews on it. Yeah DCS are going to loose the court case and loose their company as a result of this stupid law suit, we have freedom of speech in this country old mate did nothing wrong.... Well he probably should have sent the battery back that he got for free rather then smashing it, that was a bit of a dick move. And no one should be dumb enough to put a lithium battery under their bonnet unless you live somewhere cold as hell all year round, which is no where in Australia. Itecword and DCS both claim they have a battery that can go under the bonnet, yet they both only work up to 80 Degrees Celsius. A bonnet in summer in Australia gets over 100 degrees.
@@Off.Track4x4 I will be looking forward to those reviews, Long term updates are very useful. I just found your channel in my feeds, great vid and will be watching a lot more as I have subscribed. I think DCS made a very silly move and got very bad legal advice. I really hope you are right that they will lose. I don't wish any malice upon them from this but they have opened a real Pandora's box with this and win or lose the case they have caused a lot of bad will within the off roading and camping community, which I believe they won't be able to recover from in this country. Just my opinion (we need to put that in now to cover ourselves in a public forum).
@@Philipk65 Yeah, CHOICE do product reviews all the time and list pros and cons of the products and rank them. As a consumer I look for fair reviews from people that have tested the product as the manufacturer will be slightly biased and use sales pitches to promote product.
Hey Jessie thanks for watching and commenting. It does have the amp draw ability to jump start your car, should you though.... Me personally I would not put any of my expensive lithium batteries through starting an engine, just buy a $70 king's jump starter to kill 👍
Very interesting comment, I know alot about consumers law but this I'm not to sure about... I guess they would need to prove you tampered with the battery and that's what broke it.
Hey mate, thanks for supporting the channel and commenting 🙂 I thought the same thing originally, was thinking like $1200 would be a fair price but then I looked at it and though Na it is a very premium product if it was a big name player you would expect that price tag if not more.
@@Off.Track4x4most ecoflows comparable to this system are rated to 3000 complete cycles before dropping to 80% charge capacity. There are plenty of use cases for both of these systems.
@@chasew7024, true Ecoflows use the same LiFePo tech as the battery you show. You said Ecoflow did 1000 cycles. That may have been the case with their older units which were not LiFePo - now all their units are LiFePo - basically the same thing you show but with the inverter, solar MPPT, etc inside. Once you started showing the "portable" DC/DC charger and humongous external inverter. I stopped the vid. :) You don't need such a huge DC/DC charger - check Ecoflow's Alternator Charger - barely half a laptop in size. Spits out 800W and does reverse charging as well. You don't even need solar these days as long as you drive an hour and a half a day.
They also have a history of breaking and worlds shortest warranty. If they were so confident in cycle counts maybe they should have a longer warranty? Or maybe honour the warranty they do have
Hello Scott, thank you for watching and leaving a comment. The bluetooth chip records the cycles the battery has completed. But I agree I think the number is just used to show confidence. The warranty will pass before anyone gets through 8000 cycles, just shows that it will definitely last 5 years. Vs a battery that only has 2000 cycles that's a safety net to cover the company.
Why don't you admit that you were totally incorrect in stating that 304 stainless steel doesn't rust then your reply to someone that pointed this out to you that he was calling the product crap when he made no such statement, it appears to me that you are unable to accept someone that disagrees with your opinions. The facts are that 304 stainless steel does rust and can look unsightly after some time whereas 316 stainless steel does not rust as long as it's exposed to the atmosphere.
@@Off.Track4x4 it makes no difference what google says the facts are from my extensive experience and also the experience of thousands of others that 304 stainless will show rust bleed marks once it's exposed to moisture and dust which spoils the look of the finish unless you keep treating and polishing the surface.
@@guvnermcgovern interesting, you are correct unsightly. My argument with most people ... stainless steel is that stainLESS it can get rust/bleed marks if not stored and cared for properly. This isn't designed to be all weather though ..... still think for the price and its Aussie made, its a great product. Am researching further.
@@traceyianmcwhinnie3013 Yes your right a bit of dust and some moisture and inevitably 304 will bleed rust, the battery is probably a good one though apart from the rust that will appear later.
The true meaning of the warranty wont be apparent to till it's over , water ingress kills most lithium batteries and warranty 36kgs for a 22kh battery 😮 8000cycles Sounds like a fly by night solar company 😂 At least you can keep rebuilding it 😅
G'Day Scooby, thanks for watching and commenting mate means alot 😁 Yeah it's about 10kgs heavier then a plastic 200ah battery. But I guess the fact it's stainless would add 5kgs, then screws the front panel and cable would be the other 5kgs. Why is anyone putting their battery anywhere near water? I'd think water ingress should not be factor
It is clear that this young gentleman does not know much about the technology that he's reviewing. He is way overrating the capabilities of this unit period.
Mate what's your problem hey? Other TH-cam might ignore your ignorance and clear stupid comments to justify your pathetic miserable existence on this earn, me though I give it back to key board warriors like you. Mate go seek help if you need to go online and try to run people down to make yourself feel better, I'm not sure if you hate your body if you were born with a tiny tik tac dick or what, but pick a different hobby you drop kick 👍
Another free battery here we go just the same rubbish this guy is living dreamland. Same old same old garbage what a load of piffle Give it away mate it’s a load of dribble so go and get a proper job
I stand by my comment about your review as I have worked in the industry helping develop and build power supplies up to 300 KV. I have been a consumer of many different battery configurations and generator types for much longer than you've been alive. You may very well be an educated individual in other areas but certainly not here in this case review.
Mate what's your problem hey? Other TH-cam might ignore your ignorance and clear stupid comments to justify your pathetic miserable existence on this earn, me though I give it back to key board warriors like you. Mate go seek help if you need to go online and try to run people down to make yourself feel better, I'm not sure if you hate your body if you were born with a tiny tik tac dick or what, but pick a different hobby you drop kick 👍
@Off.Track4x4 the only frustrated person is actually you. If you did a poor video with false information, at least be man enough to accept the critics of your s#itty job.
Your full of it. Class A lifepo cell all have about the same cycles. It all dpends on how you treat it. If your cycle is 0-100% you will get alot less than a 20-95% cycle. Then the next thing is temperture. By the way I have a DIY system.
Hey mate, thanks for your comment and feed back. Not sure if you have done your maths but even if you had a Shockley bad energy sucking fridge that used 2amps ever hour that's 48amps a day, 4 days 192amps. Ash just came home from a 3 day work trip using our Dometic upright for 3 days and came home with 78% left. No charging. If this was an ad I'd be a full time youtuber by now, unfortunately I give up all commissions to keep my integrity 😊
Your kidding arnt ya. I built my own 280ah lifepo , run 110lt evakool for 5 days amd still had to run it a further 2 to drop it below 50% as this is where i like to store it inbetween trips.200ah would easy be 7 days to 30% depending on fridge.
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting really appreciate it. I wouldn't say ether is superior, the all in ones haven't quite nailed it yet, shocking DC charge rates, bad cycle life's and no Anderson plugs. They definitely are the way of the future but I just don't think they are their yet. Why not I can't tell you, technology is their they are just choosing to use rubbish cells and not put in proper DCDC charger.
@@Off.Track4x4, Ecoflow 800W DC/DC Alternator Charger works beautifully with my Delta Max 2. FYI. :) COupled with a couple of 400W solar blankets from Ecoflow - a masterpiece. The 3000 cycles of the battery is descent too.
This seems to be a buy-it-for-life product, which is great. Enough cycles to last for years and years, and then it's fully serviceable and not a bunch of waste. Seems like a fantastic concept. I wish the company success, I like their build philosophy.
I never thought of that! It really is alot my sustainable! Great pick up mate. Hopefully more people think of that and buy them.
While the battery capacity is higher than the newer Ecoflow and Bluetti units, it is far bulkier, since you need a separate inverter, separate MPPT, separate DC-DC Charger, and separate AC Charger. The Ecoflow and Bluetti have that all built in, at the cost of some battery capacity. The name brands are far more mobile since they're all-in-one. This battery box will however work nicely in a more permanent install, for example in a canopy setup.
Hey mate, thanks for you comment and watching. Agree the All in ones are very compact and I think this is where 12v is going, I just don't think anyone has nailed it yet. You have to trade something off to get the compact unit. And for some reason the all in ones have shocking cycle life's. I found an interesting unit in WA but can't get my hands on one, Vhedia make it.
They don’t really have a dc dc charger, the dc charge is by cig socket and only charges at low amps, would take over 20 hours of driving to recharge. The inverters are very small capacity too. What I like about this is I wouldn’t need an inverter solar, so I can pick and choose what I want to charge it with
Have you visited their assembly area just at the back of their store? It’s worth to visit. By the way, I know they use Ganfeng lithium Grade A cells. Ganfeng has contracts with VW, BMW, LG chemicals and TESLA. Just amongst all other big companies that use lithium batteries of all types. I have used the same 12V 200AH BWB LiFePO4 battery and cooked rice about 4 times during our camping and didn’t run out of power. They do offer lifetime service even if it has expired the 5 years warranty. I have done my due diligence researching for other brands in the market and this is by far the most affordable, not overpriced or course, and very powerful and reliable! A must try product, I must say. ❤
I actually got taken on a tour! Filmed it but they were working on a contract with clasifed stuff or something and I wasn't able to use the footage.
They are very impressive batteries, we are so happy with ours
Thanks mate, great video, looks like a great Aussie product, I will definitely be checking them/it out when I revise my current system.
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting means alot 😁
Honestly you wouldn't be disappointed with one of these! I'm considering giving the house battery a go 🤔
I agree that these types of 12v set ups will be great for those that go away for the long weekend, wanting something to power their 60L fridge, and charge their phones. The other brand that I have been keeping an eye on for when my current 12V system needs replacing is Muller Energy. Very similar, just that they have a 175a Anderson Plug, a touch screen and some bits to bolt the box down. This comes at an extra cost of about $250 when comparing 200ah.
For a little fella, you didnt seem to have any trouble lifting and shifting that 36kg of batteries around :)
G'Day Gary thanks for watching again 🙂
Just checked them out, they are also very nice!! I definitely think any manufacturers that aren't going down this path have rocks in their heads. Only downside I could kind find to the Muller Energy battery was it only has 3800 cycles at 80% that is very very low, I don't get out of bed for anything less then 6000 😂🤣😂
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What my body lacks in size it makes up in speed and strength 💪 hahah
I was a personal trainer and tri athlete for 12 years.
@@Off.Track4x4 I personally wouldn’t discount any LFP with a cycle count of 4K or more. From my limited knowledge, lithium batteries also have a calendar life of around 10 years. Therefore if you are a heavy user of your lithium battery, cycle it once a day for 10 years, the calendar life of the lithium battery is likely to be the cause for the battery losing some of its capacity, not the cycle count.
You are correct lithium batteries will start to die out after 5 years. The storage capacity starts dropping very slowly that's why you find 5 years is the maximum warranty you will find on most batteries. If you do the maths your correct reaching 8000 cycles would be a massive effort to reach. Me personally I feel the numbers are pulled out of the air, but it's more so a conference factor from the manufacturer. Kings has one of the lowest cycle life's, I believe that's so that the battery runs out of cycles before the warranty period and they can blame any issues on that. Just my thoughts though I have no evidence to back this up.
Thanks for a easy to understand video...and an Aussie product. We are looking at an easy way of going off-grid in our van without spending an arm and a leg. Think this might fit the bill but can I power the fridge at home when we have a power outage why I like the portable power stations.
Hello Tracey, thank you for the kind words and support.
I actually just received a portable power station for testing. I can't even get 6 hours out of it running the house fridge vs plug and Inverter into this and you will get almost 2 days.
We like camping with our 2kWh Bluetti plugged into our Tesla Model Y.
We keep the Bluetti plugged into the car for charging.
We can cook inside the tent with a portable induction cooker, when its raining too much for a fire, or an early morning or late at night cuppa.
(BTW, it would be great if you could translate battery energy into modern battery energy units kWh)
Hello and thank you for watching and commenting 😊 I really appreciate it.
I'm going to go out on a limb and say you aren't in Australia if your camping in a Tesla and you have the ability to charge 12v off your Electric vehicle?
kWh is what 240v power is read in, 12v is all measured in Ah. Bluetti use kWh as they are mainly a 240v unit buy also they don't want people to know easily how low the storage capacity is at a 12v level. Again if your not in Australia it may be different in your country but that's how it Is over here 😊
@@Off.Track4x4
Yeah I live on the Central Coast of NSW.
Our car has a humungous battery at 58 kWh capacity & it's a curious myth (total nonsense) that EVs are no good in the bush.
We often go camping with this format. We can even charge it from solar panes via the Bluetti.
I also work in the renewable energy space & well understand energy & battery language.
Even AA & AAA batteries show energy energy storage capacity in Wh & kWh. Metric language is intuitive, as all appliances show power on the nameplate as Watts.
Btw, my wife loves to take a fridge camping too, which runs either from the car, or the Bluetti.
Mate I'm not prepared to get it a fight with you over EVs or stupid shit like how to measure battery storage. Both give you same info. Good luck with your EV mate have a great night 🙂👍
The stainless box is great looking! Believe it or not, the charge / discharge duty cycle can have a dramatic affect, just as with lead acid batteries. Charging only to 80% and discharging to 50% will probably give close to 15000 cycles on most A grade LiFePO4 cells. Eco Flow and Bluetti rate theirs to 20% DOD for the 4000 cycles. BTW, that was a really nice vehicle charge setup with the 3 Anderson connectors!
Hey mate thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
I've heard the same thing, never charging to 100% can massively increase battery life.
All my 12v stuff now has to be portable, so I can swap it between vehicles, horse float and caravan, much smarter then buying 4 set ups 🤣😂
Have the 100amp 48 v (400amp at 12v equivalent) imo they are very well built and with a victron 5000 inverter charger it runs the aircon for around 3.5 hrs no problems.
5000watt inverter! Wow you have power for days 🙂
Glad to hear you rate it, thanks for commenting 👍
Buetti AC300+B300 gets like 3500 cycles. This thing looks like they bought all the parts off amazon like a Diy'er gotta say i do like it and will be doing my reserch for sure
Hey mate, thanks for supporting the channel, means alot.
3500 cycles is kings standed of batteries, I just don't understand why none of the all in ones can get 6000 cycles witch is a pass mark. I'm assuming heat must be killing the cells
Looks good but its interesting if you blow a basic 10A fuse you have to void the warranty to change it. Or send the unit back to have a $1 fuse changed 😅
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting, hope your enjoying the content 👍
Funny I actually thought the same thing when I opened it, I reckon a phone call to them and commonsense would prevail surly?
@Off.Track4x4 yeah I was almost sold until I saw that. Would be so easily remedied with some form of externally water resistant fuse holders or something. Common sense is to reliant on others to follow suit. Just opens up potential vulnerabilities.
Just spoke to my contact, removing the front control panel is perfect fine doesn't void warranty, they just don't want people tampering with the cells. Makes sense from a safety point view. Fuses can be replaced that way.
@Off.Track4x4 well at least there is some common sense :)
I've own both a 100ah and a 200ah battery they are great batteries!. But thats the thing they are batteries not power stations like blueitti etc. I run mine with a renogy dc- dc charger and a kickass mppt charger controller. The only fault i can find with these batteries after 2 years of usage, is the on/ off switch on the front get bumped and turns on the usb ports and drained the battery. Customer service at big wei batteries was fantastic and showed me how to reset bms to recharge. They might not have an ip rating but have had mine in a zodiac whilst i was careful not to get it wet, had no problem with water ingress. ( wouldn't recommend it though). Unlike cheaper lipo4 batteries they run the prismatic cells which long term make it a much cheaper option, in my opinion.
Hey mate, thanks for commenting man you know alot about them! That's for all the info I'll keep an eye on the switch.
Hey mate. Check out Perth pro auto. They have their own portable power stations. With or without battery, inverter, dc dc etc. Build your own with 100 or 200 amp battery. Expensive with everything but by the time you add it all up, I think they work out ok. 🤷♂️
Very interesting 🤔
I like the look of the black one, blue one looks a bit cheap and nasty. I'd love to see them use a different battery though, only has a 175ah discharge rate, 200 would be better so you can bump the inverter up to a 2500w.
But that's just me I don't like being limited 🤣😂
That’s what’s great about these types of power stations. Buy it without the battery options they have and put what you want in.
Yep buch better idea, glad to see your on the right track 🙂👍
8000 cycles is a sales gimmick, it might be capable of achieving this at 20% dod, there is no data on their website related to life expectancy versus depth of discharge or how they calculated this figure.
The specifications for the GFB cells inside is 3000 cycles to 80%dod at 0.5c discharge rate.
Hey mate, I agree with you I think cycle life's is a sales spec as I don't reckon anyone would reach 8000 cycles. I do how every think it shows how confident companies are with their products, once the cycle life is depleted the warranty is void. If you think your product is shit put on a 10 year warranty with 2000 cycles people will trust it because of the warranty. To put 8000 cycles and 5 year warranty shows they back their product.
It's a battery box.
Hey Michael, thanks for watching and commenting mate really appreciate it 🙂
It's not a battery box it's actually just a battery, my hardkorr that I show in the video is a battery box and has 65 less amp hours of storage. So amazing how small they have made it
Aussie made, 80% capacity at 8000, local support.
Tbh, Bluetti and EcoFlow are 4000 cycle warranty.
I thought the Bluetti was only 3000 cycles? I reckon the all in ones suffer from capacity loss due to the heat inside the boxs
They look quite robust and well made. However, they are not replacements for the bluetti, ecoflow etc. - they don't have mppt charging, 240V charging, 12V charging, they don't provide 240V outputs.
I agree this modular approach means you aren't tossing out the whole thing, but its a long stretch to compare them to the portable power banks by bluetti etc.
Its also incorrect to claim that you give up IP rating for serviceability - that is just not true.
These packs serve a purpose, but not as you present them and you do them a disservice not presenting them for what they are.
Hello Ben,
Thank you for watching and your comment, I appreciate your support 🙂
@@Off.Track4x4 It takes something to respond positively to a negative comment. I see you have done this elsewhere too. I tip my hat to you!
not really, all portable power station has mppt, but the fucntions of it will be influenced by quantities of mppt inside it
Nice one! Thank you for posting this ‼️‼️👏👏
Hey Ross happy to help 😀
Thanks for commenting
Excellent presentation. Thank you for sharing. Definitely look into it. 🇦🇺 🪃
Thank you for watching and commenting, I really appreciate it 😁
Not sure you get the difference, but that is a battery and the Ecoflow and the Bluetti are all in 1. So no Mppt and inverter required as they are incorporated in the unit. That was the point of the thumbnail title?
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting.
I'm guessing you are a new viewer to the channel, I did a video on the all in one units warning people not go get tricked into buying them.
They do not live up to the hype when you break then down. Buying this battery and adding in inverter is a far better way of doing it. But go check out the video for my details 👍🙂
m.th-cam.com/video/7YVm3pAJT6w/w-d-xo.html
Yes but wait till it breaks down and you can't fix it and you go thru all the bullshit then get friggd around😅
Go the build your own stay in control 😊
Isn’t that just basically a battery box then?
Bluetti and Ecoflow have LiFePO batteries as well, and last well beyond 1000 to 1500 cycles. You are referring to the first generation power stations. The newer versions last for thousands of hours before losing the top 20% of capacity and they don’t completely fail at that point as you are suggesting. I don’t know if you are misleading on purpose or because you are unfamiliar with the newer products.
that inverter would flatten than battery fast, your chart shows 2560w continuous power--- but the battery has a maximum discharge rate of 100amps--- thats 1300w continuous--- a 30 minute pulse is not continuous, the battery box looks a beauty--- but ffs surely people can camp without an inverter
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting 🙂
These days you would be surprised everyone wants 240 appliances with them, me a shower, stove and bed and I'm sweet 👍
But yes that battery can run a 2500w inverter no issues as you mentioned it's just for a maximum of 30mins to extend battery life I assume. A battery wouldn't be smart enough to know it's been 30mins.
Modern campers need to take an Induction cooktop, a coffee machine, a hair dryer, a hot shower, an electric blanket, a big stereo, 5000w of lighting, an air fryer and a microwave or they could not possibly survive one night without all this junk, it's great for the people supplying everything 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@-PORK-CHOP- 5000w of lighting ROFL !! Da fuck .... Still, camping sites removing fire pits and the alike dont help. Fire Cook old school
@666dualsport, I don't think Big Wei Batteries is suggesting that you pull 130A (30% over the 100A continuous rating) for 30 minutes; it's just an indication that it's more than capable of handling large momentary inrush currents in the likelihood that motors, fridges, induction cooktops, etc., kick in at the same time.
I like your product review ethics, it ensures a honest review. I like the stainless box and how its made but are the anderson sockets over current protected? Ive built a lfp battery box similar with same plug setup and put the dc-dc charger in there too but will move to the top as it gets hot.
It'd be interesting if this box can handle our corrugated roads.
Hey Mike thanks for watching and commenting means alot.
From what I could see no fuse or circuit breaks coming off the Andersons, looks like they are using the BMS as the safety. I all ways run circuit breaks in between my DCDC and battery, as well as my MPPT and battery.
I would love to see them put a DCDC charger on top of this unit, yours sounds awesome 👌
😂🤦🏽♂️, mate you fkn ripped it with the title , seriously. Im in tears . Me 15 yr old can build something like that from the local repco store. 😂🤦🏽♂️
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting, really appreciate the support 🙂
I've built quite a few portable power stations myself for friends and family. Greetings from Jamaica.
Bluetti AC200L with wifi connect, we have two B300 batteries on it. Three easy to load components, not all this separate parts. If I want I can stack 14 twelve volt batteries in series when I land the unit. That will give us 22kv of power. Sorry mate, looks like a bit of a hassle.
Hey mate, bit for to lug around for sure but the big difference is the DC charging, capacity, life span and the fact that if one component breaks down you only have to replace that not the whole system.
But I just got a portable power station that I'll be doing testing and comparing with so watch out for that
@Off.Track4x4 that's true, but a 5 year warranty helps me out a lot.
304 stainless steel can and does rust
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting.
304 stainless grade is particularly rustproof because of its high nickel content it's a fantastic product to use. Not sure why you think it's crap?
@@Off.Track4x4 I didn’t say it was crap. I said it can still rust. 316 stainless won’t rust.
Exactly right 304 does rust and can look like crap unless you polish it off all the time whereas 316 will not rust and will maintain it's good look.
@@terrybrown9516 I'm not sure why he has got so upset when you were only trying to educate him on the rust ability of 304 and made no critical comment at all
@@guvnermcgovern yeah me either. But that’s ok 😁
Good review and product. That many lugs deserve a bus bar 👍
Thanks for watching and commenting mate 😁 I'll keep them coming
Looks decent, but the most critical component is the BMS, we need to know the quality / brand!
The case is cool, i think a lot more SS builds will enter the market soon, though not super necessary when compared to plastic - cheaper and also doesnt rust.
The other feature is the price, at $1500 for a 200aH battery. But honestly, this should be the standard.. what we've seen in this market is some of the worst price gouging in Australian history!
If you could identify and cost each component, and estimate build time i recken they would still have a very healthy markup on these.
The lifetime warranty and servicing is impressive though, and should attract a lot of buyers!
At the end of the day, if the average consumer actually knew how easy it is to build something like this from chinese parts, we would all have a very different perspective on this entire market.
Hey Shawn thank you for your very knowledgeable feedback, I can tell you profit margins in the 4wd world has sky-rocketed since covid. I use to work for TJM and pre covid 25% GP was about the standard. I'd be saying 40% plus is the new standard now.
It's up to us to buy from smaller companies not ripping us off to drive the big players down.
With my channel I've been trying to help the smaller guys out.
But there is no AC plus on it ecoflow is a lot better with more plus sockets and last over 10 years of charging
Hey Wayne,
Thanks for watching and commenting mate, means alot to help the channel grow 🙂
I just checked their website they aren't saying it will that 10 years, their saying if you use it 1s a day to 80% DOD you will get 10 years out of the 3000 cycle they warranty it for.
Their standard warranty is only for 24months no where near 10 years.
Good to see they have now made a DCDC charger but it's external to the unit not built in unsure why.
I don't get it..... What's the future in this? What have i missed other than its a compact 200ah battery?
It's a 200ah battery that is not only small and compact but has all the outputs built into it that you could need. It's brilliant
@@Off.Track4x4 I bought an Arkpak 10 years ago that does this and comes with built in charger, monitor, outputs and small inverter. Not sure how it's the future, but just my opinion 👍
Bluetti and Ecoflow are 3500 cycles until 80% - these guys just say 8000 cycles with no mention of degradation. Does it need replacing at that point?
Hey Kent thanks for watching and commenting, at 8000 cycles they just replace the cells all you pay is for the new cells no labour. With Bluetti and EcoFlow you need to replace your whole unit at 3500 cycles costing $2,600
I love the heavy duty battery connectors. Nice video but I have to agree, these are nice but similar price for all in one power station. So much more versatile that a battery pack, sorry
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting 👍🙂
Thanks for your feedback
48v will rule the roost!
Very interesting comment, not all appliances can be run on 48v that's the only downside. Massive plus is being able to run smaller cables
I was looking at a eco delta it only had 800 cycles, no good to me. A 48v rack battery are quoted at a life span of 15 years.
When I was looking at that brand I also noticed that. But the Ecoflow Delta 2 has a listed cycle life of 3000
800 cycles that's shocking! Not very good cells then. I think the all in 1s are the way of the future, but no one has quite nailed it yet. Vhedia seem like they could be on to something though, just not enough data and I can't get my hands on one.
3000 cycles is still really low when you consider you have to replace the whole unit not just the cells. 6000 is what I think is minimum for it to be a good battery.
Maybe, but in perspective 3000 cycles is still a tad over 8 years if used once everyday.
I'm assuming the built in inverter is pure sine wave. Be mad if it wasn't. Also it might be handy to mention the weight.
Hey Kim,
Thanks for watching and commenting I really appreciate your feed back and support. I'm pretty sure the weight was brought up in the specs section of the review.
@@Off.Track4x4 Must have missed it. Pretty sure it wasn't on the spec sheet though. May be wrong...
The weight is in the specs on the site link. 14.5kg for LifePO4
There is no built-in inverter. It is just a simple Chinese lithium cell battery with Chinese parts and outlets. Only really the assembly is done in Australia, even though the publisher, in this case, is claiming it is Australian made. It's assembled from Chinese parts, as with most things these days. It is not the future but actually a blast from the past. People have been making exactly the same as DIY for probably 10 years and Big Wei do it as a business. I must say I've not heard a bad word about the company assembling and selling them though, but the publisher of this video is completely out of his depth going by his knowledge and his statements.
Might be a good idea doing a review to remove your sunnys
Mate that sentence doesn't even make sense? Did you complete your school education or drop out because you were to stupid and now spend your days putting idiotic comments on people's TH-cam videos to make your self feel big and strong?
@@Off.Track4x4 Hey mate your comment is rude and totally uncalled for, maybe you misunderstood me, it was for you to do the review without sunnys on as some people like to see the eyes of people doing reviews. Your review was very good and informative. It's such shame that you attacked me the way you did
Sorry my bad 🤦
I re read your comment from a less angry angle 🤣 sorry I was replying to an ass when your comment came through, my ASD blinds my judgement when when I get annoyed. I try my hardest to not let keyboard warriors get away with their hobby as a negative comment to a depressed person could be enough to push them over the edge. I apologise for putting you in that category I was completely in the wrong.
I wear the sun glasses as I feel uncomfortable looking directly at the camera and my eyes look funny as a result in the videos, odd though if I hold the camera I have no issues looking at it 🤣😂
I'm assuming something linked to my ASD.
Interesting review. Would be interest in a 1year, 2 year and 3 year review but even a 6 month review would help a lot of viewers. Your probably going to stay away from any DCS reviews now lol, wouldn't blame you.
G'Day Philip, thanks for watching and commenting mate. You will see this battery in all my 12v and camping videos moving forward, so more then happy to do milestone reviews on it.
Yeah DCS are going to loose the court case and loose their company as a result of this stupid law suit, we have freedom of speech in this country old mate did nothing wrong.... Well he probably should have sent the battery back that he got for free rather then smashing it, that was a bit of a dick move. And no one should be dumb enough to put a lithium battery under their bonnet unless you live somewhere cold as hell all year round, which is no where in Australia. Itecword and DCS both claim they have a battery that can go under the bonnet, yet they both only work up to 80 Degrees Celsius. A bonnet in summer in Australia gets over 100 degrees.
@@Off.Track4x4 I will be looking forward to those reviews, Long term updates are very useful. I just found your channel in my feeds, great vid and will be watching a lot more as I have subscribed. I think DCS made a very silly move and got very bad legal advice. I really hope you are right that they will lose. I don't wish any malice upon them from this but they have opened a real Pandora's box with this and win or lose the case they have caused a lot of bad will within the off roading and camping community, which I believe they won't be able to recover from in this country. Just my opinion (we need to put that in now to cover ourselves in a public forum).
@@Philipk65 Yeah, CHOICE do product reviews all the time and list pros and cons of the products and rank them. As a consumer I look for fair reviews from people that have tested the product as the manufacturer will be slightly biased and use sales pitches to promote product.
@@CooeeAdventures Choice has been around for a while and is known for good reviews.
Hi man can you jump start a car with this battery /?
Hey Jessie thanks for watching and commenting.
It does have the amp draw ability to jump start your car, should you though.... Me personally I would not put any of my expensive lithium batteries through starting an engine, just buy a $70 king's jump starter to kill 👍
Thank you
How much is this unit, please?
Hey Chris, around the $1,500 mark. But they have sales all the time and you can get $50 off with that discount code.
Warranty void if broken... not legally enforceable in Australia.
Very interesting comment, I know alot about consumers law but this I'm not to sure about... I guess they would need to prove you tampered with the battery and that's what broke it.
@@Off.Track4x4 Exactly.
Many examples of this in the PC industry, a sticker preventing the opening of a PC case.
real expensiv, half price will be fine
Hey mate, thanks for supporting the channel and commenting 🙂
I thought the same thing originally, was thinking like $1200 would be a fair price but then I looked at it and though Na it is a very premium product if it was a big name player you would expect that price tag if not more.
Go and do your homework on the EcoFlow.
Hello Allen, thank you for watching and commenting.
Could you please clarify what it is I got wrong?
@@Off.Track4x4most ecoflows comparable to this system are rated to 3000 complete cycles before dropping to 80% charge capacity. There are plenty of use cases for both of these systems.
@@chasew7024, true Ecoflows use the same LiFePo tech as the battery you show. You said Ecoflow did 1000 cycles. That may have been the case with their older units which were not LiFePo - now all their units are LiFePo - basically the same thing you show but with the inverter, solar MPPT, etc inside. Once you started showing the "portable" DC/DC charger and humongous external inverter. I stopped the vid. :) You don't need such a huge DC/DC charger - check Ecoflow's Alternator Charger - barely half a laptop in size. Spits out 800W and does reverse charging as well. You don't even need solar these days as long as you drive an hour and a half a day.
Do they sell Clayton power packs in Australia ?
They also have a history of breaking and worlds shortest warranty. If they were so confident in cycle counts maybe they should have a longer warranty? Or maybe honour the warranty they do have
8000 cycle is 21 years at 1 cycle a day or 10.5 years at 2 cycles a day. So how do they know it will get 8000 cycle? Its a guess and nothing more.
Hello Scott, thank you for watching and leaving a comment. The bluetooth chip records the cycles the battery has completed.
But I agree I think the number is just used to show confidence. The warranty will pass before anyone gets through 8000 cycles, just shows that it will definitely last 5 years. Vs a battery that only has 2000 cycles that's a safety net to cover the company.
Hiiii
G'day cobba
Nice try pushing this product.
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting really appreciate the help growing the channel 🙂
@@Off.Track4x4 no problem
Why don't you admit that you were totally incorrect in stating that 304 stainless steel doesn't rust then your reply to someone that pointed this out to you that he was calling the product crap when he made no such statement, it appears to me that you are unable to accept someone that disagrees with your opinions. The facts are that 304 stainless steel does rust and can look unsightly after some time whereas 316 stainless steel does not rust as long as it's exposed to the atmosphere.
Hey mate,
Maybe try googling 304 stainless see what comes up. Any ways thanks for watching and supporting the channel, I really appreciate it 😊
@@Off.Track4x4 it makes no difference what google says the facts are from my extensive experience and also the experience of thousands of others that 304 stainless will show rust bleed marks once it's exposed to moisture and dust which spoils the look of the finish unless you keep treating and polishing the surface.
@@guvnermcgovern interesting, you are correct unsightly. My argument with most people ... stainless steel is that stainLESS it can get rust/bleed marks if not stored and cared for properly. This isn't designed to be all weather though ..... still think for the price and its Aussie made, its a great product. Am researching further.
@@traceyianmcwhinnie3013 Yes your right a bit of dust and some moisture and inevitably 304 will bleed rust, the battery is probably a good one though apart from the rust that will appear later.
The true meaning of the warranty wont be apparent to till it's over , water ingress kills most lithium batteries and warranty
36kgs for a 22kh battery 😮
8000cycles
Sounds like a fly by night solar company 😂
At least you can keep rebuilding it 😅
G'Day Scooby, thanks for watching and commenting mate means alot 😁
Yeah it's about 10kgs heavier then a plastic 200ah battery. But I guess the fact it's stainless would add 5kgs, then screws the front panel and cable would be the other 5kgs.
Why is anyone putting their battery anywhere near water? I'd think water ingress should not be factor
It is clear that this young gentleman does not know much about the technology that he's reviewing.
He is way overrating the capabilities of this unit period.
Mate what's your problem hey? Other TH-cam might ignore your ignorance and clear stupid comments to justify your pathetic miserable existence on this earn, me though I give it back to key board warriors like you. Mate go seek help if you need to go online and try to run people down to make yourself feel better, I'm not sure if you hate your body if you were born with a tiny tik tac dick or what, but pick a different hobby you drop kick 👍
Another free battery here we go just the same rubbish this guy is living dreamland. Same old same old garbage what a load of piffle
Give it away mate it’s a load of dribble so go and get a proper job
I stand by my comment about your review as I have worked in the industry helping develop and build power supplies up to 300 KV.
I have been a consumer of many different battery configurations and generator types for much longer than you've been alive.
You may very well be an educated individual in other areas but certainly not here in this case review.
This review is definitely Off Track and borderline "off the rails".
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Mate what's your problem hey? Other TH-cam might ignore your ignorance and clear stupid comments to justify your pathetic miserable existence on this earn, me though I give it back to key board warriors like you. Mate go seek help if you need to go online and try to run people down to make yourself feel better, I'm not sure if you hate your body if you were born with a tiny tik tac dick or what, but pick a different hobby you drop kick 👍
@Off.Track4x4 the only frustrated person is actually you. If you did a poor video with false information, at least be man enough to accept the critics of your s#itty job.
Your full of it. Class A lifepo cell all have about the same cycles. It all dpends on how you treat it. If your cycle is 0-100% you will get alot less than a 20-95% cycle. Then the next thing is temperture. By the way I have a DIY system.
200 ah would not power any dc fridge for 4 days. This video is an ad.
Hey mate, thanks for your comment and feed back. Not sure if you have done your maths but even if you had a Shockley bad energy sucking fridge that used 2amps ever hour that's 48amps a day, 4 days 192amps.
Ash just came home from a 3 day work trip using our Dometic upright for 3 days and came home with 78% left. No charging.
If this was an ad I'd be a full time youtuber by now, unfortunately I give up all commissions to keep my integrity 😊
Your kidding arnt ya. I built my own 280ah lifepo , run 110lt evakool for 5 days amd still had to run it a further 2 to drop it below 50% as this is where i like to store it inbetween trips.200ah would easy be 7 days to 30% depending on fridge.
I have one of these batteries, and it powered a kings 75lt fridge on fraser for 5 days and still had 30% left
Looks pretty good but ecoflow far superior
Hey mate, thanks for watching and commenting really appreciate it.
I wouldn't say ether is superior, the all in ones haven't quite nailed it yet, shocking DC charge rates, bad cycle life's and no Anderson plugs. They definitely are the way of the future but I just don't think they are their yet. Why not I can't tell you, technology is their they are just choosing to use rubbish cells and not put in proper DCDC charger.
@@Off.Track4x4, Ecoflow 800W DC/DC Alternator Charger works beautifully with my Delta Max 2. FYI. :) COupled with a couple of 400W solar blankets from Ecoflow - a masterpiece. The 3000 cycles of the battery is descent too.