Vincent hiding his face behind a beard is like if Michael Jackson had lost his vocal cords on stage. I bet he shaves later for a dramatic transformation
This is the longest I've seen Dick's hair in the show. I wish the showrunners wasn't afraid to give us long haired Nightwing :( . Big missed opportunity because Brenton always grows out his hair outside of Titans.
I like now this episode was about Dick being just like Bruce, I just hope later that Dick will learn not to be a better batman, but be better than batman
I wouldn't say don't disregard everything Crane is saying, but I do also think you should be careful around the guy who thinks a burlap sack is fashionable.
Trying to psychoanalyze Bruce and appear he is on Nightwing's side, true master manipulation. Crane's the one who abuses fear, but he flipped it on Bruce. Bruce surely isn't the best parent, he's screwed up. But though his tactics at raising strong kids were flawed, he has always had their best interests at heart. He never did it for himself, he did it for his children to be fearless and defend themselves so they never felt helpless as they did before Bruce made them heroes. Conversely, Crane has his own ego and interests at heart, not those he considers patients. "Make sure it stops with you" AAAAH, for any traumatized child watching this, these sort of mind games from an evil therapist are so believably scary. Titans has improved since I dropped it, I'm giving it another go solely for Dick. They're treating his character so well and that's so rare. Sadly I don't like their Raven or Starfire but maybe they're better now too.
No he was not the best parent but considering how he watched both of his parents be murdered right in front of him as a child I would argue there are worse parents in the world. At the very least Bruce never abused his kids or made them feel like they were nothing.
Also, really clear body language from Crane's actor! His face shows sympathy as he talks with Nightwing. He's leaning in / forward as he thinks he's able to get through to him. When Nightwing shows that he doesn't have those psychological insecurities that Crane was trying to pick at, Crane starts to loosen up and eventually slumps back into his chair to signify defeat.
i will forever love the writers for saying Bruce is fucking insane. other media portrayls make him sane and somewhat rightous but titans just calls him a fucking psychopath YES
Well, I guess it depends what medias you watch/read... Batfleck is on the "unhinged/psycho" side of the spectrum at the beginning of *BvS:EU* , and the widely beloved animated movie "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns" (written by Frank Miller) is also an inspiration for the *Titans* Bruce Wayne. Also, don't forget the recent adaptation of *Superman: Red Son* for a "psycho" Batman, who is much more murderous than the one from the Red Son comic book. Then there is the Arrowverse's crossover "Crisis on Infinite Earths" (played by Kevin Conroy), Earth-99 Bruce/Batman that is also admittedly inspired by Frank Miller's Batman from the "DK" saga (mostly "Year One", "ASBAR", "TDK Returns" & "Strikes Again" mostly I guess, since the others one from the saga, "The Last Crusade" "Master Race" are co-written wite Brian Azzerello, and "DK: The Golden Child" is more about Superman's family) and now has to use an exoskeleton to move around, since his final fight with Superman left him broken. Such a shame that this crossover was so disjointed, the potential was immense... I'll go to my grave claiming that the previous crossover, *Elseworlds* was great and should be given more attention; it's everything *Crisis* was trying to be, without all the (awesome I must admit) cameos AAANYWAY, lots of unhinged Batmen out there, the Tim Burton one that relaunched the Batmania was pretty damn nuts too. It's too bad that in the theatrical version of *Batman Returns* they removed the 2 short scenes that explained by Bruce specifically targeted the 2 "Penguin thugs" that he kills on-screen...
@@whateveer23 no, he is not a psycho, he's a sociopath with huge PTSD and other problems. He cares about people but he pushed them away and judged them harshly. Most of his rogue galleries are psychopathic though.
Man oh man! I have never seen a show that has annihilated the Bruce Wayne AKA Batman character more than this one. I would rather the writers just come out and say something like, "Our intention is to prove that Bruce Wayne/Batman is a piece of s#@!."
I shouldn't of been afraid of the wolf, the wolf should've been afraid of me. 🤣- and people still think anyone besides grayson is the natural successor to bruce to be the Batman, the best Robin and a formidable hero in his own right as Nightwing.
Ik what Crane is really saying when he’s talking about Bruce but it’s also kinda interesting hearing one of his rouges somewhat complimenting Batman himself
This Batman is a lot more brutal than your usual but he’s alright with murdering wild animals coming to kill you. He murders parademons, animal minions, Solomon Grundy and Talons… Taking an innocent life though, no… Or a villain’s life esh..
@@cnarhatrnaz3561 He wasn't cool with it but Joker broke him by killing Jason, if he didn't kill Jason then he wouldn't have murdered Joker, real Batman was about in the original comic storyline. You can do something and not be cool with doing that...
@@meganmakescakes Jeez, where the heck has he been?? I remember him just from his work on Angel, as well as his roles in Alaska and Indian in the Cupboard, but after that, it was like he dropped off the map.
@@paigeconnelly4244 Never watched Mad Men. Sorry. I didn't know. I do know Elizabeth Moss was on Mad Men. And before Mad Men, I only knew about her roles in Once Upon A Forest, and her role in Batman the animated series episode 'See No Evil', which coincidentally was about an Invisible Man before she starred in The Invisible Man remake.
I’m pretty sure the wolf wasn’t chasing him through the woods just to sniff his hand, 🤔 If a wild animal was chasing you, Would YOU take “take your chances” that it had good intentions?? Would you be willing to literally bet your life that it was “harmless”?
I love how Scarecrow actually feels like his Psychiatrist persona is useful
Agreed
I love the fact that they’re just revealing EVERYTHING to each other. The conversation and the actor’s portrayal fit perfectly
You read my mind here.
“ I shouldn’t have been afraid of the wolf the wolf should have been afraid of me “ - Dick Grayson loved that line it surprises scarecrow too
I actually like how this version of Jonathan Crane is more of a psychiatrist than psychopath half the time
I said it last time and I'll say it again, I really like this Crane
Yeah I like him too.
Vincent hiding his face behind a beard is like if Michael Jackson had lost his vocal cords on stage. I bet he shaves later for a dramatic transformation
I really like him up until episode seven, yhen he had the most stupid change of heart and character and it went terrible.
The way Dick was trained is wild💀 each robin he got more Sane with it though 😂
If this is how titans did most of their scenes...istg it would have saved the show. We need more character moments like that...
This is the longest I've seen Dick's hair in the show. I wish the showrunners wasn't afraid to give us long haired Nightwing :( . Big missed opportunity because Brenton always grows out his hair outside of Titans.
Crazy how much this show has improved Jesus Christ getting sooo good
Well the second half of the season was a bit bumpy
Nah fr tho. S3 lowkey has a whole different vibe and im all here for it ✋😶✋
@@summer93i Yeah, bad vibe.
@@Luiz.325 nope a good vibe had ups and downs but still a good vibe
@@hammer-0 Bad vibe. S3 was absolute garbage.
I like now this episode was about Dick being just like Bruce, I just hope later that Dick will learn not to be a better batman, but be better than batman
Yeah I hope he learns that too.
I don’t follow
@@nicklatallade9344 what do you mean?
Well said. He can be better than Batman if he allows himself.
I wouldn't say don't disregard everything Crane is saying, but I do also think you should be careful around the guy who thinks a burlap sack is fashionable.
And who gets off tormenting people with their greatest fears
@@mitchellneuhoff9946 good parents do 😅
@@meganmakescakes uh 😀?
Trying to psychoanalyze Bruce and appear he is on Nightwing's side, true master manipulation. Crane's the one who abuses fear, but he flipped it on Bruce.
Bruce surely isn't the best parent, he's screwed up. But though his tactics at raising strong kids were flawed, he has always had their best interests at heart. He never did it for himself, he did it for his children to be fearless and defend themselves so they never felt helpless as they did before Bruce made them heroes. Conversely, Crane has his own ego and interests at heart, not those he considers patients.
"Make sure it stops with you" AAAAH, for any traumatized child watching this, these sort of mind games from an evil therapist are so believably scary. Titans has improved since I dropped it, I'm giving it another go solely for Dick. They're treating his character so well and that's so rare. Sadly I don't like their Raven or Starfire but maybe they're better now too.
No he was not the best parent but considering how he watched both of his parents be murdered right in front of him as a child I would argue there are worse parents in the world. At the very least Bruce never abused his kids or made them feel like they were nothing.
Also, really clear body language from Crane's actor! His face shows sympathy as he talks with Nightwing. He's leaning in / forward as he thinks he's able to get through to him. When Nightwing shows that he doesn't have those psychological insecurities that Crane was trying to pick at, Crane starts to loosen up and eventually slumps back into his chair to signify defeat.
Nice heart to heart between these two.
Oh he's good at manipulation. The fact he's not wrong in a lot of what he's saying makes it work so well.
i will forever love the writers for saying Bruce is fucking insane. other media portrayls make him sane and somewhat rightous but titans just calls him a fucking psychopath YES
Yes crane was right about him in this show.
Batman always was but comics and movies potray him in his eyes that we encourage his actions
Well, I guess it depends what medias you watch/read... Batfleck is on the "unhinged/psycho" side of the spectrum at the beginning of *BvS:EU* , and the widely beloved animated movie "Batman: The Dark Knight Returns" (written by Frank Miller) is also an inspiration for the *Titans* Bruce Wayne.
Also, don't forget the recent adaptation of *Superman: Red Son* for a "psycho" Batman, who is much more murderous than the one from the Red Son comic book.
Then there is the Arrowverse's crossover "Crisis on Infinite Earths" (played by Kevin Conroy), Earth-99 Bruce/Batman that is also admittedly inspired by Frank Miller's Batman from the "DK" saga
(mostly "Year One", "ASBAR", "TDK Returns" & "Strikes Again" mostly I guess, since the others one from the saga, "The Last Crusade" "Master Race" are co-written wite Brian Azzerello, and "DK: The Golden Child" is more about Superman's family)
and now has to use an exoskeleton to move around, since his final fight with Superman left him broken.
Such a shame that this crossover was so disjointed, the potential was immense...
I'll go to my grave claiming that the previous crossover, *Elseworlds* was great and should be given more attention; it's everything *Crisis* was trying to be, without all the (awesome I must admit) cameos
AAANYWAY, lots of unhinged Batmen out there, the Tim Burton one that relaunched the Batmania was pretty damn nuts too.
It's too bad that in the theatrical version of *Batman Returns* they removed the 2 short scenes that explained by Bruce specifically targeted the 2 "Penguin thugs" that he kills on-screen...
@@randallflagg3700 baffleck and battinson are both unhinged
@@whateveer23 no, he is not a psycho, he's a sociopath with huge PTSD and other problems. He cares about people but he pushed them away and judged them harshly. Most of his rogue galleries are psychopathic though.
Man oh man! I have never seen a show that has annihilated the Bruce Wayne AKA Batman character more than this one. I would rather the writers just come out and say something like, "Our intention is to prove that Bruce Wayne/Batman is a piece of s#@!."
Vincent is a great actor
1:55 yeah lol 😂 he ain’t no angel 👼 either 😂
The king ordered it!
I hope we saw Raven before the end of the season i miss her !
I shouldn't of been afraid of the wolf, the wolf should've been afraid of me. 🤣- and people still think anyone besides grayson is the natural successor to bruce to be the Batman, the best Robin and a formidable hero in his own right as Nightwing.
This scarecrow was mad cool I wish they actually gave him the suit.
Ik what Crane is really saying when he’s talking about Bruce but it’s also kinda interesting hearing one of his rouges somewhat complimenting Batman himself
This feels more Charles Manson/Generic Cop TV Show serial killer than The Scarecrow.
...when did Batman was okay with killing anything!?
This Batman is a lot more brutal than your usual but he’s alright with murdering wild animals coming to kill you.
He murders parademons, animal minions, Solomon Grundy and Talons…
Taking an innocent life though, no…
Or a villain’s life esh..
@@Artryomhe killed joker
@@cnarhatrnaz3561 He wasn't cool with it but Joker broke him by killing Jason, if he didn't kill Jason then he wouldn't have murdered Joker, real Batman was about in the original comic storyline. You can do something and not be cool with doing that...
At least Dick is smart enough to fall for Scarecrow mind games
Oh my God... Is that Conner from Joss Whedon's Angel playing Johnathan Crane?
Yes. Vincent Kartheiser.
@@meganmakescakes Jeez, where the heck has he been?? I remember him just from his work on Angel, as well as his roles in Alaska and Indian in the Cupboard, but after that, it was like he dropped off the map.
@@sebastianemond5313 he really didn't! He was a main cast member in Mad Men for every season! Where have you been?!
@@paigeconnelly4244 Never watched Mad Men. Sorry. I didn't know. I do know Elizabeth Moss was on Mad Men. And before Mad Men, I only knew about her roles in Once Upon A Forest, and her role in Batman the animated series episode 'See No Evil', which coincidentally was about an Invisible Man before she starred in The Invisible Man remake.
How did nightwing knew scarecrow manipulated Red hood/created him
Because, Nightwing IS a genius like Bruce, despite how oftenly he’s portrayed as an idiot.
That and your dad WAS a vampire with a soul Dr Crane 😅
Jonthan crane no longer villan as scarcrow
I hate what these shows do to wolves. This was pathetic.
Yeah they demonize them and that is not how wolves are in real life.
@@damianstarks3338 And even if a wolf was chasing him, this shouldn't have been the result.
@@lostinthestorywithjeremymi9385 true.
@@damianstarks3338 Right
I’m pretty sure the wolf wasn’t chasing him through the woods just to sniff his hand, 🤔
If a wild animal was chasing you, Would YOU take “take your chances” that it had good intentions??
Would you be willing to literally bet your life that it was “harmless”?
please tell me scarecrow fights raven
No, I guess
That doesn't look like Scarecrow
Cillian Murphy should reprise his role as scarecrow
@@Karlebow571 best scarecrow
@@Karlebow571 watch him in the movie “Ricky 6”- because he IS scarecrow material. Just not with the facial hair!