Totally--we really like how it's also broken into three sections, with the twins on the left, the versatile all-mountains in the middle, and the business-oriented carvers on the right.
Just wanted to also thank you guys for another awesome video. This organization of the wall really helps me pinpoint the area and brands of skis to focus on. Your videos are a valuable resource for ski education. Best on the web in my opinion. I appreciate the time and effort... A+
Thanks for these vids. Started alpine skiing last year and got most of my quiver from your recommendations. Met an old Stowe race ski instructor at a wedding in Northern BC last month and let her know how big legends you two are. Skiied the mirus cor and atris last year and picked up an unleashed 98 and bent 110 on sale this year. Thanks for all the content and good feedback, no one does it like y'all
Thanks! Appreciate the comment. Way different now than 2020, that's for sure. We've learned a lot about both video and audio quality over the years, although I will say producing these in 4K adds a different set of challenges!
Love these round ups and comparisions of different skis you do. Just wanted to let you know I bought the new Enforcer 89 "blind" after watching pretty much all of your reviews and comparisons the last year. It fit me like a glove, I love bombing it down on piste and the limitations are definetly on the skier not the skis in my case. The way you describe the characteristics is really spot on. Big thanks form a Swedish skier!
Another quality vid fellas! If people arent familiar with the term slarvy, i think it is helpful to explain that it is a combo of the words 'slash', and 'carve'.
I love every video you guys put out! No one comes close to the depth and detail you put into them. Also, I’ve bought 2 pairs of skis from you and both purchases were seamless. Thanks so much! Don’t ever stop doing what you’re doing.
Very nice review of the Faction Prodigy 1, this has been my go-to for "all-mountain freestyle," awesome playfulness all over the hill with switch skiing capability, with full confidence edge hold at high speeds. Thank you guys for the time spent on these great overviews!
Great job guys. Just moved from a 22 MX88 to 25 SR88. The kid is more in the bumps and hoping to get a little more versatility while still having that hard charging stability. I chuckled on the Kastle laugh about the front and rear hollow-tech colors not matching. When he turned the ZX to see it different colors, that was classic!
I have always wanted to see a "ski day" comparison video. Where you two pick from ALL the skis you have access to, dont tell each other and pair them to the "day" in mind. Pick like 10 to 15 classic ski conditions/days. Example, it hasnt snowed in 5 or more days and there have been some freeze thaws. Its snowed a few inches on top of other recent snows. It dumped 22 inches. You are doing resort skiing out west with side country. You are doing steep back country chutes. Chill spring tree day maybe with fam...etc...etc. could be any day get crazy. you off hand mention these things in the reviews which are so great but would be fun to see the top picks.
Just pulled the trigger on the Armada Declivity 92ti’s to replace my Atomic Maverick 100ti’s as my dailey drivers. They’ve been one of my favorite demo’s two years running. Was super impressed with the Anomaly 88 but don’t think it will be as versatile as the Declivity, especially in soft snow.
I'm really torn between the declivity 92ti and the anolomy 88's. I would like to get a new daily. I have a set of Declivity x 102's coming and love my declivity 82's for front side just wish they where a little stronger.
I agree with you. I own a pair of anomaly 88 and it’s pretty strong, I don’t use them at all when the snow is too soft. Indeed, it’s a very pleasant ski.
I buy all my skies based on your reviews, never been let down! Seems I will need to try the Anomaly this year. Great vids, thanks for the awesome reviews!
Hey guys, thanks for the super helpful video! I'm eager to hear your thoughts on an interesting setup challenge. Looking to get into Alpine snow kiting, I'm searching for the perfect pair of skis. While most riders go for 360s, I need a 720 to match my needs in the Alps. Here's the tricky part - I need something that can handle two very different scenarios: - Performing as a robust twintip for snow kiting sessions - Being light enough for long skin tracks (crucial when the wind drops and you're facing a 1500-2000m wayback home) Width-wise, I'm thinking around 90mm underfoot, with these models catching my eye: - Salomon QST - Atomic Bent For bindings, I'm torn between: - A lightweight touring binding for reliability - A Shift (tempting for versatility, but comes with the weight penalty) Given how unpredictable mountain winds can be, versatility is key here - it needs to shine while kiting but also be dependable for those unexpected touring returns. What setup would you go for? Would love to hear your experience with similar scenarios! Thanks!
The Bent is lighter and more twin-tipped than the QST--this seems to fit your critera better. If versatility is key for your application, I'd think the Shift would be a more confident choice, even with the weight--it's still not that heavy I suppose.
ive trained and competed in the 80's on skis and i enjoy the ripstick 88 - its easy to stop hitting the ski too hard and let it carve honestly. all new skis feel like that to me and i'd only care if racing my life out of it - goes plenty fast enough for day to day sking (and still faster than everyone who isnt a pro skier anyway - so plenty enough really)
Us too! As soon as we get into September here in Vermont, the leaves start changing, the nights get pretty chilly, and there's a lot of excitement in the air for ski season!
Gotta get my old man on a better pair this season. He loves/sticks to his groomers, but he’s wanted to follow me into some single-black trees every once in a while. He’s not aggressive, close to Bob’s dimensions. East coast based, skis 10 days/year. Thinking QST 92, any others either of you would consider? Love the videos! Can’t wait for the season!
That's a great example of why that QST 92 is so good. I guarantee it'll satisfy his expectation on a groomer and it'll almost definitely open his eyes up to a whole new world of possibilities off trail. Others would work too, but I have no reason to steer you in a different direction.
Always great to watch your comparison videos, demo'd the Mavericks, Faction Dancer 2 and the QST92 this Australian season. Liked all of them, the Mavericks were the best in the conditions that were on offer at the time, being very icey. I'm currently on the 2016 version of the Kendo, have decided that I'm going to upgrade to the [ Kendo ] Mantra 88 as they seem to suite what I am looking for in a ski.
@@SkiEssentials I have had a ski on the Kendo 88 when it first came out in it's new format and noticed the difference straight away especially in shorter turns.
I sold my SR88 after one season. The suspension and refinement are definitely there, but the long sidecut (20m in the 184) made for an interesting ski. It isnt a quick turning carving ski, but rather it rides like a narrow freeride ski with a flat tail. They come alive at high speeds and high angles, but in crowded slopes you find yourself having to shift around and swing your tails. Fun ski, great ski, personally didnt feel like a carving ski (nor does stockli bill it as such) and the flat tail made off piste skiing more demanding. Then again seemingly everyone else ive talked love theirs, so 🤷♂️
Having demoed the other SR as well as the Montero, I'd also add that they have some excellent skis and I would loooooove to score a Laser/Montero at some point and if I didn't have a glut of ~100ish freeride/all mountain skis I would happily take the SR102 as my daily here in Tahoe.
In a vacuum, if I never skied a Montero AR, I'd still think the Stormrider 88 is one of the most amazing skis out there. Now after two seasons skiing the AR, I'm blown away at how much it takes the 88's bandwidth. There's still plenty of room for the 95 and 102, but the AR really eats away at the 88's performance capabilities.
@@SkiEssentials yeah, I think its probably the same for me. I skied the AR first before buying the 88 and I think that's what ruined me. I was just craving that AR ride every time I clipped in.
It's interesting to watch Jeff and Bob hand flex the same ski...such a difference. It seems to parallel what happens on their feet...Bob squashed that Bent 90 like it was rubber😅
I am so pumped you organized them this way. I felt a chetler 100 too soft, so I went to a qst 92 which I felt was also way too soft, so I’ve started shopping 80-90mm skis with metal in them. Cross shopping the maverick 88ti, kendo 88, mindbender 89ti and even the new arcade. So to see this comparison made my life so much easier. I considered the declivity c which you guys put right after the qst92 so I’m glad I took it off my list! I also just took the 89ti off the list. I really want a kastle mx88 but they’re just so damn expensive. Just looking at the wall I think the arcade 88, mx88 or kendo 88 will be the winner. I’m 168cm tall, 190lbs, and just like charging down groomers. I’m worried if the kendo 170cm, mx88 173cm or arcade 88 170cm are too long for me. But I feel the next size down is too short.
I think your weight keeps those 170ish skis in play. The Arcade makes good sense if you're looking for Kastle-like performance in a more affordable zone. Kendo opens it up a bit when it comes to all-mountain performance, but if you're sticking to groomers, the Arcade's shape and style lends quite well to that application.
Such a bummer to hear the Declivity got burlier. I love the energetic yet strong feel of my old declivity (felt more unique). I would have loved to see them get even funkier with this ski vs going more powerful… plenty of those skis around imo.
It is, yes, but it's not wildly different than the previous version. We found that the switch from karuba to poplar was more noticeable in ARV skis than Declivity. With the existing metal, it was already quite strong. Interestingly, what you're asking for actually happened in the 102, which we'll be talking about soon. The name changed too, it's not the Declivity X 102, but it's definitely funkier! I can understand why they went that direction with the 102 and not the 92.
@SkiEssentials interested in your take in the 82ti as well. They are not selling it here in NZ this year so I'll have to get it from overseas. I love the 2023 version so was wondering how much the 2025 had changed over the first iteration? Armadas site looks to have the old core ski weights listed for the 2025 skis, based on your 92ti measure, as its significantly heavier than the 2024 based on this review by 200gms +. Presume 82ti will be also?
@@scollyutube Our ski test video on the 82 Ti will likely come out before the 80 mm comparison featuring the Declivity--I think we weighed it in that one. Overall, it's a slightly unique category, the narrow all-mountain skis. Many skiers simply switch focus to wider front side skis at the 82 mm mark. The Blizzard Anomaly 84, Stance 80/84, and even the Montero to an extent all fall into this category. They're fantastic skis and we think most people simply overlook them.
Thanks for another great comparison! You talk a lot about carving performance, on trail performance, soft snow, bumps, trees, even park. But not really about icy conditions or skiing steeps ( ie need for controlled, skidded turns). What skis or characteristics should I look for for those conditions? Thinking Ripstick 88, Captis or Ranger 90
We talked a lot about those conditions with the Ranger 90. Skis with metal underfoot make the most sense to me for blending steep and firm conditions and terrain with all-mountain versatility. Radian 92, Mindbender 89, and M-Cross all fit this bill quite well.
Thank you guys for another great video!🙌🏻 I have the blade optic 96 but the new optic 88 is a very interesting and unique ski. Hope the optic 88 is slightly more precise, quicker and aqile ski than the blade optic 96 but still quite damp. How would you compare the 96 to the 88? Where does the 88 outperform a wider ski? Does it have better grip on firmer slopes?
That's basically a perfect assessment. It's very similar to the 96, if anything it might be slightly quieter with slightly better vibration damping, but yes, is also quicker, more precise, and more agile. The 88 definitely outperforms the 96 in just about any firm snow scenario, and arguably better in the bumps too with quicker edge to edge transfers. The one big variable is snow conditions. Anything soft, the 96 is still more fun, speaking generally that is.
On the carvy side for moguls, I'd go with the Stance 90 or the Declivity. The Anomaly is fun, but it's a bit heftier so not everyone loves that when it comes to bumps.
Hey guys, great job as always. Looking for a new tele ski. Any advice? On the short list is Rustler 9, Kastle zx92, Icelantic pioneer 96, Salomon QST 92. Thanks again!
I don't think you can go wrong with the QST 92 here. I never really liked metal in my tele skis, and that takes the Rustler off of my list. I would also think the Kastle makes a great option here as it's got good energy and a responsive tail with a more flexible shovel for easier and smoother turn initiation.
@@kylemacdonald4791 The 92 is a safer overall bet from a day to day perspective here in the East. The 98 is fine, but it does come down to preference in terms of width. I like the quickness and pep of the 92 here in Vermont.
Awesome video ! I narrowed my choice down to the Ranger 90 and Line Optic 88. 5'10" / 165lbs skier looking for a 50/50 (incl. powder) ski, fun enough for basic carving and moderate jumps, but able to handle high speed and kind of charge if I want to. How do they compare, is the line really more stable at speed vs the Ranger, or is it only more powerful ? Does the Ranger outperforms on some aspects ? TBH for the Optic I don't get where the twin tips downside goes.... so I'm wary about this "free lunch". Is that less reliable than the Ranger in some situations then ? may be on icy conditions, or not even and they made a perfect ski ? 😅 As a safer versatile choice, I was considering the Ranger in 184cm, so clearly sizing up, to add stability. Good idea or agility killer on this ski ? Thanks 🙏
Rarely am I more impressed than I was with the Optic 88. I'm not saying this will be the case for everyone, and there are Ranger skiers out there that are more than happy with their choices. All I'm saying is that for an 88 mm twin tip, this ski absolutely rips. It's got a lot of grip, has a surfy feel, and maintains a composed character through crud and chop. I've never been able to say the same things about the Ranger 90 with the same level of enthusiasm. There is certainly a part of me that still thinks the Ranger is a safe choice, but the upside of the Optic is just too high in my experience.
Thank you for all the important Information you guys share with us!😊 Right now I am also struggling about which pair of Ski i buy this season. It will most likely be the Head Oblivion 84s, the Atomic Bent 90s or the Line Chronic 94s. I am an upper intermediate Skier, 70% carving on groomers, 30% offside (Trails, Trees, smaller Jumps, etc.). I want a Ski which I can still use to carve at a good level but also play around on or off the piste like switching or jumping around. 😁 Also I generally wonder which width fits the best for my riding style and if there are any other Ski which you can recommend for me.😄
The Oblivion 84 is a very impressive carver. The Bent is the most playful and smeary, while the Chronic falls somewhere in the middle. If you have it boiled down to these three and still can't choose, I'd go with the Chronic as it covers the most ground.
I want a fun but still pist focused Ski. From the (btw. awesome) review I reall liked the Line Optic‘s. My budget isn‘t too big, but I would be willing to invest in one really good pair, which these seem like they are. I‘m now just unsure for which to go, as I said the Line Optic sound awesome, but there which thickness would be best for an all mountain ski, with some bits of park, but nothing really big. I‘m about 6‘5, weight about 210.
do you all ever review some of the other popular, well-made skis in these categories like Moment Skis, J Skis, ON3P? They certainly have great contenders for the categories you all have been comparing. I just bought a pair of J Skis Masterblasters and would've loved to see them in one of your comparison videos. Anyhow, great content!
Yes, and we want to do more, but there are always limitations on what we can fit in, mostly our own time throughout the season and what skis we devote that time to. Last season we did quite a bit with new Candide skis, we've done a bit with 4FRNT too. This season I'd love to work in the 3 brands you mentioned, and J Skis is actually very easy as they're local to us and Jason is a good friend.
So many amazing choices … I’m a 68 year old advanced skier looking to replace my 2019 Kore 93 with something a little easier to turn at more moderate speeds. At 5’9”, 155 lbs, skiing mostly western US and Canada, on-piste, I’m looking at QST92, Ripstick, Liberty Radian and also options from your mid-90mm comparison (Ripstick, Blaze 94). Versatility is key … any words of wisdom? Thanks.
QST 92 and Blaze 94 stand out to me as versatile skis that can handle higher performance skiing. The Blaze is a bit lighter and more peppy while the QST is slightly smoother and better in softer snow and crud.
In all seriousness, I would like to see a ‘Bob’s Bretton Woods Retirement Skis’ review. At 50 years old I continue to shop high performance skis but I know that soon I’ll have to trade off some of their attributes for more compliant skis.
This is a great comment and I hope to be able to get this review/comparison done! There are so many out there that have such a high ceiling but are not terribly demanding. Steadfast 85, Montero AR/AX, Dynastar M-Cross 88, and Volkl Peregrine V.Werks are at the top of my personal retirement ski list! I'm 47 now, so still have a few years to go!
Hi guys! How accessible is the Radian 92's performance, carving ability and edge hold? Are they enjoyable at lower speeds? I'm 5'9" 170lbs. I have the old Blaze 94s and really enjoy them. I think they're playful and easy to bend, great for short radius turns on high angle slopes, or letting the longer of the triple radii run on low/medium angle slopes. I'm not quite sure if the tight round turns I can make on them are a result of flex or shape, but I love that ability on- and off-piste. Edge grip has been adequate on icy patches, their light weight is a bonus and I even hit the jump lines. Since my Blaze 94s are frequently borrowed these days, I've thought about getting a duplicate pair. Instead, I'm now considering trying a different directional ski in the 90s-ish that may lean a little more toward low-tide conditions with a little better edge grip for those re-freeze or sastrugi days. It's fine if there's a lot of overlap in ski characteristics with the Blaze because I like them so much. I'd like to keep some sense of playfulness, and I'm not interested in charging or top speed. I have ON3P Jeffrey 100s, Woodsman 102s and BC Daemons for mild park, skiing switch and softer/deeper conditions. Those skis all have very short effective edges, so the Blaze are currently my best skis for hardpack, even though I ski them in all conditions. Other skis that seem like they might be in the running with Radian are Paragon, Rustler, Enforcer Unlimited, Declivity or Stance, but I'm afraid some may be too strong/heavy or get too far away from the characteristics I enjoy in the Blaze. I think I'm looking for high torsional rigidity for edge hold, but soft longitudinal flex for bending at lower speeds? In the other direction on the spectrum, the Liberty Scope sounded amazing when Bob described it as flowing through bumps like water. However, it sounds like that may have worse edge hold than the Blazes. How much would I be sacrificing or trading off with the Radian coming from the Blaze's easy-going nature? Is the firm snow performance and presumed increase in edge hold on ice worth it? How big a step toward the Radian is the new Blaze construction? If I'm open to suggestions if another ski sounds like a good match. I've already re-watched the 2025 comparisons and reviews, and appreciate all of your hard work. Thank you for so much great content over the years!
I felt that the Radian's lower speed performance was a highlight--great at shorter skidded turns and mid-radius carves. I'd say the Blaze 94 is a very comparable ski. Radian has a thin core profile so it's easier to bend than some thicker skis. If you're interested in Paragon, but aren't sure about the metal, check out the ZX 92--same shape as Paragon 93 but with a poplar/beech core instead of dual metal. If you look at Declivity, I'd go 88 C over 92 Ti.
hey guys great video! could you give me any advice? im deciding beetween the völkl mantra 88 and the atomic maverick 88ti. I ski in the alps, mainly on grooms but i discovered freeriding for me and i wanna get into that so like a 50/50 groomer and freeride, which is also able to hit the park sometimes would be perfect. im around advanced level ty in advance!
There's a lot more substance and confidence in the Mantra 88 than the Maverick. If you want a lighter and quicker ski, then the Atomic will hold up that end of the deal, but for everything else, I think the Mantra 88 is a very complete ski with a high level of performance that's still accessible at a variety of speeds and edge angles.
Hello, I have black crow atris for a powder day and now I'm looking for my main ski to use all season around. I ski mainly with rossignol soul 7 around the rockies with a ratio of 20% (Steep Chutes), 50% (Groomers), 30% (Trees). Not a big mogul fan but I can handle any bumps fairly well. I would say I'm an advanced skier, with the experience of hitting most double blacks in Colorado. Since I also enjoy carving when chilling on groomers, I want something that carves better than my rossignol soul 7 and is good all around for most conditions, putting aside Atris for the powder days. I feel like Salomon qsts are the way to go but I might really enjoy the slight stiffness of mantra or enforcer when carving. Now, I'm having a hard time deciding between Enforcer 94 172cm or Mantra M6 170cm or Salomon qst 92/98s. I'm 5'9, 150, advanced. Which ski do you think might fit my need better?
The feel and character of the QST's will be more similar to the Atris, especially the 98. It sounds like you're looking for something more different. Personally, I think the new Enforcer 94 is a very complete ski with tons of confidence, power, and a surprising amount of versatility. I'd lean that way in the 172.
I’m currently trying to pick between playmaker 91, ripstick 88 and mirus cor. I demoed the MC and loved it, but it’s expensive and I didn’t take it on any steeper hills. I am not a good skier and currently ski Wingman 78C (168, I’m 5.10-185, beginner/low intermediate) and looking for something with mire float and playfulness. Basically need a good “dad” ski that is just fun to be on. Would I need to go longer than 168 with any of those 3? Thanks for all of your great reviews!
@@SkiEssentials thanks for the feedback! I was kinda hoping you would say mirus cor, but that prob isn’t the best option for a not so great skier on NY ice (even if it is super fun).
Gents, I love my 23 kendo’s for their precision, energy and stability with being surprisingly easy to maneuver. The only thing I’d want is a little more lock in in the tail at the end of a carved turn. Sometimes, when I want to spring off the tails at the end of a turn, the kendo slides out instead of gripping and accelerating out of the tail. Probably my crap technique lol. Do you think the mx88 is what I’m looking for? Anything I lose from the kendo in terms of stability and energy? I assume it will be a touch less pivoty (I think the kendo is really pivoty for what it is), but does the Mx end up feeling one dimensional next to it? Using this ski mostly for aggressive fast carving down crappy munched up groomers and spring snow. Also thinking about the peregrine 82 or deacon 84, or maybe some of the Fischer mid 80s charger options like the rc series.
Not to pile on the crap technique statement, but just want to make sure that boots are fitting properly with appropriate stiffness and that edges are sharpened before moving into MX world. In a vacuum, the Kendo should hold up just fine at the tail end of the turn. The MX will take it to the next level, as that squared shape and flatter profile really lean into the back portion of the turn. The Kendo is pretty rockered for it's use--mainly to help keep the 3D Radius functioning properly, and you can pivot quite simply--I do like that about the ski. You shouldn't need to look further than the MX, although if you're considering narrower, they also make the MX 84 which takes the torsional stiffness and carving power up another notch.
Love the video, the comparrisons are easy to understand and the whole „slarvy to carvy“ arragement is helpful too. I was looking for an All-Mountain Ski, with a bit of a focus on parks, since I wanna learn more and better tricks this and the following seasons. But since my budget isn‘t the biggest I though of getting an All-Mountain Ski, instead of „just“ a Park Ski, it‘s probably gonna be piste and park. I found many of then good and kind of fitting into my chategories. I especially liked the elan Playmaker 91. For not this one, but the one from 2024 I found a sweet 40% off deal. I don‘t know if they are really the best ski there for me, I think they fit quite nicely and, considering the deal, it‘s also a pretty good Price. That a good Idea or should I go for others? And what demessions are fitting? I‘m pretty tall, probably like 6‘4 and around 220 pounds heavy.
The Playmaker is very light and agile. If you're looking for supreme mobility and playfulness, you're in the right spot. At your stats, it's on the light and flexible side. I'd look to something with a bit more substance like the Black Crows Captis or the Line Optic 88. Those skis have the all-mountain performance you're looking for with a twin tip for learning park and tricks. While the deal might not be as good, you're probably going to get a better ski overall for your stats and application.
Each time I get on the Mantra 88 I want one more and more. The K2 is a fine ski with great energy out of the tail and an awesome character, but the Volkl just stands up to a whole lot and at a very high level.
How would you compare the Declivity 92 Ti to the Enforcer 94? I’m guessing the Declivity is slightly better off trail, but how do they compare on trail? Which do you prefer? By the way, love the videos and the way you have the skis organized. Would love to hear 2-3 personal favorites from each of you at the end of the comparisons.
The Enforcer is denser and more stable in a carved turn on-trail while the Declivity has a bit more pep and zest in a similar format. If I'm staying only on-trail, I'm taking the Enforcer, and I might even prefer it off-trail, too.
Bob: Anomaly 88, Optic 99, and QST 92 Anomaly for pure performance, Optic for rarity of 88 mm twin tip with metal, and QST for overall satisfaction Jeff: Anomaly 88, Playmaker 91, and ARV 88 Anomaly for pure performance, Playmaker and ARV for light, energetic park use
Thanks for another great review! Do you plan on a frontside skis review too as per usual? I’m particularly curious about the new fischer the curv gt 80. Thanks again
Yes we will get to the narrower skis for sure. In the meantime, the new Curv GT 80 feels like an incredibly crisp and round turner that is more agile than the outgoing RC One 82 GT. It's more of a pure carver than the 82 that felt like it wanted to be an all-mountain ski that could also carve race turns.
Looking at the QST 92 to replace an old Rustler 9. As we all know, many ski days are on ice. Is the word "playful" code for 'find something else to ski on a firm day?' How does the QST 92 perform on firm days? With a good edge tune of course. Thanks a bunch!
I'm pretty surprised at the QST's grip on firm snow. Lots of energy and rebound out of the tail. While there's not the dampness of a metal-clad ski, the agility and pep is very impressive. And yes, the tune does make a good difference.
They look awesome. The Kin looks right up my alley. They're tough to get a hold of when it comes to demos but we're always on the lookout for opportunities. I've always liked Line skis, so the move for Eric to Season makes sense in my mind.
Im 6'4 225, just decided to get the Black Crow Atris as my all mountain ski (for soft, variable, and pow). I would like a 2nd ski in the quiver that will be better suited for cruddy days, ice, but if by off chance there is some fun stuff off-piste, it wont be out of place. Whistler is my home mountain for reference. What would you guys recommend as the perfect compliment to the Atris? Thank you!!
In this range, I'd take a look at the Salomon Stance 90 or the Blizzard Anomaly 88. The Stance is a bit lighter and more mobile than the Blizzard, which is more stable and damp for on-trail activities.
Is the stance 90 noticeably more playful than the mantra 88?Looking to replace last years kendo 88 with a more playful all mountain carver for VT skiing. Looking into stance 90, mindbender 89, optic 88 and ranger 90. Thank you!
It is certainly more playful, especially with a lighter energy overall due to the caruba wood in the core. The Optic is the most playful on your list while the Ranger and the K2 fall into the middle category. The K2 and the Salomon are quite close with the shorter turn arc of the K2 as the main difference.
I'm assuming you mean the Anomaly 84 vs. 88. In this case, the 88 is more versatile and has a heftier feel due to increased overall mass. It's more stable and secure as a result. The 84 is quicker, more energetic, and more torsionally stiff for better edge grip and control. Skier level counts, as someone more intermediate will be able to handle the 84, but might not have as much success overall on the 88.
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Thank you for your videos. I’ve been loving the ripsticks 88 for years but now I feel like I need something a bit stronger. Will the new ripstick 88 satisfy that or may I go for another? I also own a pair of Montero AXs which I feel a bit too heavy at some point
I have not found the new Ripstick to be stronger. If you're looking for stronger without getting too crazy in terms of weight, I'd say the Atomic Maverick 88 and the Stockli Stormrider 88 are two awesome options.
How would you compare the Rossignol sender soul 92 compared to last year’s armada arv94 as far as all mounting and groomers. Which would have better edge grip? Great video
I'd say the new Soul 92 is a bit better in all-mountain and groomer performance with better edge grip. The ARV 94 didn't quite have the same energy and pep out of the tail as the new Soul 92.
Great video as always guys. What length do you both prefer for the qst 92? I (6’0 215lbs) have an enforcer 88 in a 186 and a K2 poacher in a 177. I want to get the qst 92 for something to have in between both of those but I’m unsure on what length (176 or 184) to get for decent carving and playfulness.
I (Bob) would get the 184 were I to buy. That said, I felt fully comfortable and loved the 176--if someone gave me that length, I'd happily ski it. Jeff is a 176 all day.
Understanding that Anomaly 88 is a “better carver” than Stormrider 88 (given its placement on the wall) does that necessarily mean that the Anomaly also has “better edge grip” than Stormrider 88 in firm and icy conditions? Many thanks -
In a vacuum, yes, the Anomaly will have better grip than the Stormrider 88 in firm and icy conditions. The heft and overall stiffness/core thickness make that the case. The Stormrider's tail is more directional/race-oriented, but other than that I put more stock in the Anomaly's firm snow performance.
Between the Stance and the QST which would you consider more playful and forgiving? Looking for this range to complement QST 106, Enforcer 100 and Rossy Forza’s.
Great test,I hesitate betweenel the salomon stance 90 or 96, do you have a preference? Thank you , regards from Belgium.I'm 5.7 and 124 pounds, Ski all terrain.
I would really like some merch like jeff hoodie? Cant we buy those ? Would be kind of sick to see the tumbnail of 3h for the mid 80 all mountain vid😮.Thanks guys !!
I think the 3-hour mark is going to be tough to achieve--there's simply not enough room on the wall. www.skiessentials.com/collections/outlet?pf_v_brand%5B%5D=SkiEssentials
Hello, guys. These arrangement of the skis seems very informative and creates a good comparison between the skis on the market. I have been skiing on a Atomic Theory 96 from 2014 and I am in the market for a similar ski but a bit more stable and carvy. I have managed to carve good turns with it in softer conditions but lately here in Eastern Europe they become much rarer. I can not decide where exactly my old pair of Atomics lands in this categorisation. What would you advise me to look for from this wall given that I am looking for something a touch stiffer, and more stable in some hardpack conditions?
Check out the Captis in this range while if you're looking for a more similar ski in the mid to upper-90's the Nordica Unleashed 98 is a wonderful ski.
While you could certainly find something on this wall that will be a better option than the QST, especially the ones on the right side, I'd also wonder if you want to go narrower still to a wide frontside ski like the Blizzard Thunderbird R15 at 76 mm underfoot or meet somewhere in the middle with a Volkl Peregrine 82?
It's not like the 2024 is all of a sudden a bad ski. The new ones feel more sophisticated with their new wood core, and the shovel is a bit easier to engage, but the top end of performance has not changed. Whether it's worth the extra money is a conversation you have to have with your bank account.
@@SkiEssentials I think that’s enough to convince me. If I was hearing that its very difficult to tell them apart aside from graphics I might just get last years, but if there are real improvements I think I’ll pay the extra $
Are the prodigy 1 and the Anomaly 88 similar in any way? I come from atomic piste ski but wanna try some all mountain, more playful and versatile ski. I see that the anomaly would fulfill better my needs but also prodigy 1 could also. Any suggestions? I basically looking for a ski that can do it all but more oriented towards groomers. (English not first language sorry for any mistake)
They're similar in that they're both skis. Other than that, they are about as different as it gets in a similar width. Anomaly is way more oriented towards groomers while Prodigy is more freestyle oriented and playful.
49:45 I'm watching this and thinking "dang this ski's profile looks a lot like my 2019 Rossi Sky 7" ski, then Jeff said it. Rossi should have never discontinued the 7 series and should have instead updated it. With this ski, it appears that they finally figured that out.
Other companies picked up on the shaping, too. Salomon's QST 92 and 98 as well as the DPS Kaizen and Wailer skis seem to take notes from the Sky and Soul series.
Interesting points made during the M-Cross bit. I have the M-Pro 85 and have found the same in terms of it not exactly loving short to medium length carving turns 'at speed.' I'm also 6'1 tall and weigh 190 lbs so also thinking that is the 85 simply not 'enough' ski for me if that's what I want to be doing. Any thoughts?
It sounds like the move to some sort of metal laminate is warranted for that stability at speed. The M-Cross has it underfoot, but maybe you want some more? Mindbender 89 is one of the best on this wall and Mantra 88 is right there as well, just a bit more precise and demanding than the K2.
@@SkiEssentials great! Thanks. It was indeed between the Mindbender and M-Pro last season, and decided to go with the M-Pro. Gonna try to get on a pair of Mindbender's this coming season. Follow up question: if I went with the Stance instead of the Mindbender, what should I expect?
In your opinion - Is the 2025 model Ripstick 88 enough of an upgrade over the outgoing 2024 model to justify the current price difference? (Comparing prices @ SkiEssentials).
Hi, how does the m-cross compare with the Fischer Ranger 90 for an advanced-expert skier doing 50% groomers/50% off piste and quite fast ? It sounds the Ranger is more versatile and better off piste, but is the m-cross more stable, more powerful and with less chattering on groomers (the m-pro has a lot of it at high speed...) ? Thanks !
If you're 50/50, the Ranger is a better option. M-Cross is a more engaging groomer ski and can be fun in an off-piste realm, but Ranger is more designed for that style. Neither are particularly stable and powerful at speed--M-Cross is smoother in mid-radius turns.
thanks for the videos. I am a 55 year old man. I ski everywhere 2 to 3 weeks a year. I have knee problems. I am looking for a pair of skis to do everything. go in the powder when it rarely falls, and a pair that grips on hard snow. I weigh 100kg. thanks
@@SkiEssentials one more question, is the declivity 2024 the same as the one of 2025? because it is prettier. Otherwise I was also thinking about the ranger 90 in 184cm because it is a little wider ???
@@gillesrecrosio502 2025 Declivity updates to smoother and quieter poplar wood vs. lighter and more jittery caruba. The 88, specifically, gets a softer flex with less carbon. I'm personally not a huge Ranger fan but I do know some people like them.
Funny question but if every ski here theoretically cost the same, which “feels” more premium in hand and skiing? I actually do appreciate a product that feels premium, especially when you’re spending $700-$2000.
I think that's a good question. Stockli is at the top for sure based on the complete and total silence and smoothness that it produces. Anomaly, Enforcer, QST, Captis, and Declivity are my other top choices for "feeling" like a premium ski.
Line Optic as a Blizzard Rustler 8? My old Rustler 10 / Black Ops 98 ears just perked. And here I was ready to go Anomaly 88 for the no-new-snow, carve on/off piste days. I know the Anomaly requires more leg than the Optic (and my other skis), but like a whole 'nother leg? I do have solid technique, but I also ski laaaaaazy...
If you go Optic, be prepared for a more playful tail for sure. You do not get the same grip or energy as the Anomaly--maybe 3/4 leg? You can certainly ski lazier on the Anomaly than the Brahma. The Optic leaves some questions about top-end performance while the Anomaly does not.
How does the Optic 88 compare to the older Soul Riders? My friend has been looking for a replacement for his Spul Rider, he's not as fond of the Unleashed he purchased to replace it.
As a former Soul Rider 87 enthusiast, I do think the Optic 88 is a bump for sure. Captis as well, but Optic takes the smoothness and power to the next level while Captis retains more of the Soul Rider's playful and peppy character. So if he's looking for more of a similar ski, go Captis--for an upgrade in power, Optic.
Hey, im thinking of buying the new bent 100s but idk what size i should get. Im 185cm tall 85kg lean but im bodybuilding so i will get heavier. I have the sizes i see are 179 and 186 i think i will get the 186 because that just 1cm away from my own lenght.
I have atomic redster ti in 170, I found them too physically hard to ski them in other snow than icy conditions, are elan ripstick or playmaker or similar, better for easy to use skis ? Or do you guys have recommandations ?
The Elan's are considerably easier to ski in softer snow, but then the flipside is that they don't work as well in ice. There are mediums as well here, with a ski like the Salomon Stance 90 operating well in a variety of conditions and terrain--maybe not as easy in powder, as the Ripstick, but certainly better at firm snow.
Hey guys, Looking for a ski for my 15 year old who is an intermediate skier, fairly tall (6'1"), but not heavy at 130-140lbs. I am thinking Bent 90 in a 175, or the Unleashed 90 in a 174. Thoughts? Anything else I might want to consider?
The Unleashed 90 has a bit more pep to it than the more flexible Bent 90. If you're looking for a sturdier feel, I'd go Nordica, but for more freestyle creativity, the Bent. The lengths sound appropriate. Elan Playmaker 91 is another fun ski that will be supportive and accessible.
I'd go 176 with the Anomaly. You could size up, but the skis are very sturdy and we've found that similar length preferences within Anomaly and Brahma align.
The anomaly is easier to ski, so you could size up. I found the brahma 184cm was too much ski for me, while I found the anomaly in 182cm to be super easy and enjoyable everywhere. (I'm 188cm and weight 72kg)
@@damiencabirou2785 I’ll demo some but thinking 182 might work.. I(92kg/188) ski the 184 ‘24Mantra102 and it’s awesome! The Brahma was so solid in a 177 tho!
We're pairing the 2025 Atris with a Marker Griffon 13 and it works great! www.skiessentials.com/products/2025-black-crows-atris-skis-with-bindings-102145k?ski%2520size=172
We have been incorporating twin tips into these comparisons when relevant. If we have time later this fall, we might put them all on the wall together, but for now, including twins into the larger field is making sense for us.
It's tough to argue against the Bent 90 when you're looking for light weight and a flexible nature. The Kastle ZX 100 is amazing as well, especially in softer snow in the trees and it has a stiffer tail for skiers that like more responsiveness. The Bent is just so darn easy to smear and turn.
@@SkiEssentials As mentioned earlier, I'm coming from the Deacon 84, putting with my well trained 197cm size 120kg on the ski and looking for an alternative with more surface to the ground. My focus is on Mantra 88, Mantra M7 and Kore 93 by expecting a perceptible difference to the Deacon in terms of 'handling'. On the other hand I love the precision of the Deacon and looking for similar in that respect. Last saison I tested the Maverick 88, it was comfortable but found it not reactive enough. I also love lighter ski's and tend to the Kore 93 today. Bob's explanations and experience with that ski sounds like what I'm looking for, but any other recommendations to look into are welcome. Love your professional presentations!!
We'll see if we can get to that by the end of the fall! We have decided to split the 100 mm comparison into two, one focused on more freeride skis (which will have a lot of twin tips), the other focused on more all-mountain themed skis, which really won't have many twin tips at all.
In the video we discussed that the Kore 87 and the Black Crows Mirus Cor will be featured in the mid-80's comparison as that will range from 83 to 87 mm underfoot.
Of the 8 skis on the wall from Maverick to Enforcer; which 3 should I demo for someone who is always looking for bumps and prefers to stay on the sides of the trail. Killington/Pico every weekend Opening to Memorial Day.
I've only ever been on the 182. I'm not sure the 188 would be my choice and I've never felt the 182 is too short or not burly enough. You're a bit taller and a bit lighter than me, so I bet the 182 will be good for you as well.
I have a friend and ski patroller here at Stowe and he loves the 90 C. Very good skier, loves bumps, trees, and short to mid-swing turns. No bad skis, just mis-matched ones to their pilots.
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This is definitely the best way to organise the category makes it very easy to compare one ski to the next
I agree! Quite easy to figure out what you would prefer this way
Totally--we really like how it's also broken into three sections, with the twins on the left, the versatile all-mountains in the middle, and the business-oriented carvers on the right.
I concur
Just wanted to also thank you guys for another awesome video. This organization of the wall really helps me pinpoint the area and brands of skis to focus on. Your videos are a valuable resource for ski education. Best on the web in my opinion. I appreciate the time and effort... A+
Thanks for these vids. Started alpine skiing last year and got most of my quiver from your recommendations. Met an old Stowe race ski instructor at a wedding in Northern BC last month and let her know how big legends you two are. Skiied the mirus cor and atris last year and picked up an unleashed 98 and bent 110 on sale this year. Thanks for all the content and good feedback, no one does it like y'all
Awesome thanks so much!
Just watched a video of yours from 2020 and it was great and all but I’m impressed with improvements in video production quality over the years
Thanks! Appreciate the comment. Way different now than 2020, that's for sure. We've learned a lot about both video and audio quality over the years, although I will say producing these in 4K adds a different set of challenges!
Love the Slarvy to Carvy! Demoed both Stormrider 88/95 last season and they are both sweet. Great content as always.
Awesome! Thank you!
Love these round ups and comparisions of different skis you do. Just wanted to let you know I bought the new Enforcer 89 "blind" after watching pretty much all of your reviews and comparisons the last year. It fit me like a glove, I love bombing it down on piste and the limitations are definetly on the skier not the skis in my case. The way you describe the characteristics is really spot on. Big thanks form a Swedish skier!
Another quality vid fellas!
If people arent familiar with the term slarvy, i think it is helpful to explain that it is a combo of the words 'slash', and 'carve'.
I love every video you guys put out! No one comes close to the depth and detail you put into them. Also, I’ve bought 2 pairs of skis from you and both purchases were seamless. Thanks so much! Don’t ever stop doing what you’re doing.
Thank you!
Very nice review of the Faction Prodigy 1, this has been my go-to for "all-mountain freestyle," awesome playfulness all over the hill with switch skiing capability, with full confidence edge hold at high speeds. Thank you guys for the time spent on these great overviews!
We can't wait to spend more time on it and some other Faction skis this year! Studio 1 and Dancer 2 are on the list for longer-form reviews.
Great job guys. Just moved from a 22 MX88 to 25 SR88. The kid is more in the bumps and hoping to get a little more versatility while still having that hard charging stability.
I chuckled on the Kastle laugh about the front and rear hollow-tech colors not matching. When he turned the ZX to see it different colors, that was classic!
Then we explored more, and the Kastle Paragon skis have the same color Hollow Tech so go figure.
I have always wanted to see a "ski day" comparison video. Where you two pick from ALL the skis you have access to, dont tell each other and pair them to the "day" in mind. Pick like 10 to 15 classic ski conditions/days. Example, it hasnt snowed in 5 or more days and there have been some freeze thaws. Its snowed a few inches on top of other recent snows. It dumped 22 inches. You are doing resort skiing out west with side country. You are doing steep back country chutes. Chill spring tree day maybe with fam...etc...etc. could be any day get crazy. you off hand mention these things in the reviews which are so great but would be fun to see the top picks.
Great reviews fellas! I wholeheartedly agree about a lot of skis... especially Salomon's. Also, you guys rip! Keep it up!
best review channel on the internet... hands down
Thank you!
Just pulled the trigger on the Armada Declivity 92ti’s to replace my Atomic Maverick 100ti’s as my dailey drivers. They’ve been one of my favorite demo’s two years running. Was super impressed with the Anomaly 88 but don’t think it will be as versatile as the Declivity, especially in soft snow.
I'm really torn between the declivity 92ti and the anolomy 88's. I would like to get a new daily. I have a set of Declivity x 102's coming and love my declivity 82's for front side just wish they where a little stronger.
I agree with you. I own a pair of anomaly 88 and it’s pretty strong, I don’t use them at all when the snow is too soft. Indeed, it’s a very pleasant ski.
Declivity 92 is just a bomber all purpose east coast daily.
I buy all my skies based on your reviews, never been let down! Seems I will need to try the Anomaly this year. Great vids, thanks for the awesome reviews!
88 all day any day! Except really deep powder, then something wider.
Hey guys, thanks for the super helpful video!
I'm eager to hear your thoughts on an interesting setup challenge.
Looking to get into Alpine snow kiting, I'm searching for the perfect pair of skis. While most riders go for 360s, I need a 720 to match my needs in the Alps.
Here's the tricky part - I need something that can handle two very different scenarios:
- Performing as a robust twintip for snow kiting sessions
- Being light enough for long skin tracks (crucial when the wind drops and you're facing a 1500-2000m wayback home)
Width-wise, I'm thinking around 90mm underfoot, with these models catching my eye:
- Salomon QST
- Atomic Bent
For bindings, I'm torn between:
- A lightweight touring binding for reliability
- A Shift (tempting for versatility, but comes with the weight penalty)
Given how unpredictable mountain winds can be, versatility is key here - it needs to shine while kiting but also be dependable for those unexpected touring returns.
What setup would you go for? Would love to hear your experience with similar scenarios!
Thanks!
The Bent is lighter and more twin-tipped than the QST--this seems to fit your critera better. If versatility is key for your application, I'd think the Shift would be a more confident choice, even with the weight--it's still not that heavy I suppose.
ive trained and competed in the 80's on skis and i enjoy the ripstick 88 - its easy to stop hitting the ski too hard and let it carve honestly. all new skis feel like that to me and i'd only care if racing my life out of it - goes plenty fast enough for day to day sking (and still faster than everyone who isnt a pro skier anyway - so plenty enough really)
Well done gents! I'm starting to get a little more antsy to get out now...just need the weather to cooperate. Thank you!
Us too! As soon as we get into September here in Vermont, the leaves start changing, the nights get pretty chilly, and there's a lot of excitement in the air for ski season!
Great video, I'd love it if you guys talked a little about performance on NE ice.
Gotta get my old man on a better pair this season. He loves/sticks to his groomers, but he’s wanted to follow me into some single-black trees every once in a while. He’s not aggressive, close to Bob’s dimensions. East coast based, skis 10 days/year. Thinking QST 92, any others either of you would consider? Love the videos! Can’t wait for the season!
That's a great example of why that QST 92 is so good. I guarantee it'll satisfy his expectation on a groomer and it'll almost definitely open his eyes up to a whole new world of possibilities off trail. Others would work too, but I have no reason to steer you in a different direction.
Always great to watch your comparison videos, demo'd the Mavericks, Faction Dancer 2 and the QST92 this Australian season. Liked all of them, the Mavericks were the best in the conditions that were on offer at the time, being very icey. I'm currently on the 2016 version of the Kendo, have decided that I'm going to upgrade to the [ Kendo ] Mantra 88 as they seem to suite what I am looking for in a ski.
Way more energy and fun in the new Mantra 88!
@@SkiEssentials I have had a ski on the Kendo 88 when it first came out in it's new format and noticed the difference straight away especially in shorter turns.
I sold my SR88 after one season. The suspension and refinement are definitely there, but the long sidecut (20m in the 184) made for an interesting ski. It isnt a quick turning carving ski, but rather it rides like a narrow freeride ski with a flat tail. They come alive at high speeds and high angles, but in crowded slopes you find yourself having to shift around and swing your tails. Fun ski, great ski, personally didnt feel like a carving ski (nor does stockli bill it as such) and the flat tail made off piste skiing more demanding. Then again seemingly everyone else ive talked love theirs, so 🤷♂️
Having demoed the other SR as well as the Montero, I'd also add that they have some excellent skis and I would loooooove to score a Laser/Montero at some point and if I didn't have a glut of ~100ish freeride/all mountain skis I would happily take the SR102 as my daily here in Tahoe.
In a vacuum, if I never skied a Montero AR, I'd still think the Stormrider 88 is one of the most amazing skis out there. Now after two seasons skiing the AR, I'm blown away at how much it takes the 88's bandwidth. There's still plenty of room for the 95 and 102, but the AR really eats away at the 88's performance capabilities.
@@SkiEssentials yeah, I think its probably the same for me. I skied the AR first before buying the 88 and I think that's what ruined me. I was just craving that AR ride every time I clipped in.
It's interesting to watch Jeff and Bob hand flex the same ski...such a difference. It seems to parallel what happens on their feet...Bob squashed that Bent 90 like it was rubber😅
I'd love to ski all of them... Great review, appreciate the work!
You could spend a lot of time getting demos this upcoming season and check a lot off your list!
I am so pumped you organized them this way. I felt a chetler 100 too soft, so I went to a qst 92 which I felt was also way too soft, so I’ve started shopping 80-90mm skis with metal in them.
Cross shopping the maverick 88ti, kendo 88, mindbender 89ti and even the new arcade. So to see this comparison made my life so much easier.
I considered the declivity c which you guys put right after the qst92 so I’m glad I took it off my list! I also just took the 89ti off the list.
I really want a kastle mx88 but they’re just so damn expensive. Just looking at the wall I think the arcade 88, mx88 or kendo 88 will be the winner.
I’m 168cm tall, 190lbs, and just like charging down groomers. I’m worried if the kendo 170cm, mx88 173cm or arcade 88 170cm are too long for me. But I feel the next size down is too short.
I think your weight keeps those 170ish skis in play. The Arcade makes good sense if you're looking for Kastle-like performance in a more affordable zone. Kendo opens it up a bit when it comes to all-mountain performance, but if you're sticking to groomers, the Arcade's shape and style lends quite well to that application.
Such a bummer to hear the Declivity got burlier. I love the energetic yet strong feel of my old declivity (felt more unique). I would have loved to see them get even funkier with this ski vs going more powerful… plenty of those skis around imo.
It is, yes, but it's not wildly different than the previous version. We found that the switch from karuba to poplar was more noticeable in ARV skis than Declivity. With the existing metal, it was already quite strong. Interestingly, what you're asking for actually happened in the 102, which we'll be talking about soon. The name changed too, it's not the Declivity X 102, but it's definitely funkier! I can understand why they went that direction with the 102 and not the 92.
@SkiEssentials interested in your take in the 82ti as well. They are not selling it here in NZ this year so I'll have to get it from overseas. I love the 2023 version so was wondering how much the 2025 had changed over the first iteration?
Armadas site looks to have the old core ski weights listed for the 2025 skis, based on your 92ti measure, as its significantly heavier than the 2024 based on this review by 200gms +. Presume 82ti will be also?
@@scollyutube Our ski test video on the 82 Ti will likely come out before the 80 mm comparison featuring the Declivity--I think we weighed it in that one. Overall, it's a slightly unique category, the narrow all-mountain skis. Many skiers simply switch focus to wider front side skis at the 82 mm mark. The Blizzard Anomaly 84, Stance 80/84, and even the Montero to an extent all fall into this category. They're fantastic skis and we think most people simply overlook them.
Thanks for another great comparison!
You talk a lot about carving performance, on trail performance, soft snow, bumps, trees, even park.
But not really about icy conditions or skiing steeps ( ie need for controlled, skidded turns). What skis or characteristics should I look for for those conditions?
Thinking Ripstick 88, Captis or Ranger 90
We talked a lot about those conditions with the Ranger 90. Skis with metal underfoot make the most sense to me for blending steep and firm conditions and terrain with all-mountain versatility. Radian 92, Mindbender 89, and M-Cross all fit this bill quite well.
Thank you guys for another great video!🙌🏻
I have the blade optic 96 but the new optic 88 is a very interesting and unique ski. Hope the optic 88 is slightly more precise, quicker and aqile ski than the blade optic 96 but still quite damp. How would you compare the 96 to the 88? Where does the 88 outperform a wider ski? Does it have better grip on firmer slopes?
That's basically a perfect assessment. It's very similar to the 96, if anything it might be slightly quieter with slightly better vibration damping, but yes, is also quicker, more precise, and more agile. The 88 definitely outperforms the 96 in just about any firm snow scenario, and arguably better in the bumps too with quicker edge to edge transfers. The one big variable is snow conditions. Anything soft, the 96 is still more fun, speaking generally that is.
Need you guys to pick your top 3 skis at the very end please that’s premium content.
Yes, sorry--we even talked about doing that. My (Bob) picks are Anomaly, Optic, and QST. Jeff takes the Anomaly, Playmaker, and ARV 88.
what in your opinion is the most mogul-friendly ski on the carvy side? The Anomaly 88 sounds really fun.
On the carvy side for moguls, I'd go with the Stance 90 or the Declivity. The Anomaly is fun, but it's a bit heftier so not everyone loves that when it comes to bumps.
Hey guys, great job as always. Looking for a new tele ski. Any advice? On the short list is Rustler 9, Kastle zx92, Icelantic pioneer 96, Salomon QST 92. Thanks again!
I don't think you can go wrong with the QST 92 here. I never really liked metal in my tele skis, and that takes the Rustler off of my list. I would also think the Kastle makes a great option here as it's got good energy and a responsive tail with a more flexible shovel for easier and smoother turn initiation.
Seems like the QST covers all bases. Any significant difference 92 vs 98 here in the East?
@@kylemacdonald4791 The 92 is a safer overall bet from a day to day perspective here in the East. The 98 is fine, but it does come down to preference in terms of width. I like the quickness and pep of the 92 here in Vermont.
Awesome video ! I narrowed my choice down to the Ranger 90 and Line Optic 88. 5'10" / 165lbs skier looking for a 50/50 (incl. powder) ski, fun enough for basic carving and moderate jumps, but able to handle high speed and kind of charge if I want to. How do they compare, is the line really more stable at speed vs the Ranger, or is it only more powerful ? Does the Ranger outperforms on some aspects ?
TBH for the Optic I don't get where the twin tips downside goes.... so I'm wary about this "free lunch". Is that less reliable than the Ranger in some situations then ?
may be on icy conditions, or not even and they made a perfect ski ? 😅
As a safer versatile choice, I was considering the Ranger in 184cm, so clearly sizing up, to add stability. Good idea or agility killer on this ski ?
Thanks 🙏
Rarely am I more impressed than I was with the Optic 88. I'm not saying this will be the case for everyone, and there are Ranger skiers out there that are more than happy with their choices. All I'm saying is that for an 88 mm twin tip, this ski absolutely rips. It's got a lot of grip, has a surfy feel, and maintains a composed character through crud and chop. I've never been able to say the same things about the Ranger 90 with the same level of enthusiasm. There is certainly a part of me that still thinks the Ranger is a safe choice, but the upside of the Optic is just too high in my experience.
Thank you for all the important Information you guys share with us!😊 Right now I am also struggling about which pair of Ski i buy this season.
It will most likely be the Head Oblivion 84s, the Atomic Bent 90s or the Line Chronic 94s. I am an upper intermediate Skier, 70% carving on groomers, 30% offside (Trails, Trees, smaller Jumps, etc.). I want a Ski which I can still use to carve at a good level but also play around on or off the piste like switching or jumping around. 😁
Also I generally wonder which width fits the best for my riding style and if there are any other Ski which you can recommend for me.😄
The Oblivion 84 is a very impressive carver. The Bent is the most playful and smeary, while the Chronic falls somewhere in the middle. If you have it boiled down to these three and still can't choose, I'd go with the Chronic as it covers the most ground.
I want a fun but still pist focused Ski. From the (btw. awesome) review I reall liked the Line Optic‘s. My budget isn‘t too big, but I would be willing to invest in one really good pair, which these seem like they are. I‘m now just unsure for which to go, as I said the Line Optic sound awesome, but there which thickness would be best for an all mountain ski, with some bits of park, but nothing really big. I‘m about 6‘5, weight about 210.
The 88 in the 184 would be sweet. Captis as well in same length are two of my favorites for all-mountain twins.
@@SkiEssentialsThank you!!
do you all ever review some of the other popular, well-made skis in these categories like Moment Skis, J Skis, ON3P? They certainly have great contenders for the categories you all have been comparing. I just bought a pair of J Skis Masterblasters and would've loved to see them in one of your comparison videos. Anyhow, great content!
Yes, and we want to do more, but there are always limitations on what we can fit in, mostly our own time throughout the season and what skis we devote that time to. Last season we did quite a bit with new Candide skis, we've done a bit with 4FRNT too. This season I'd love to work in the 3 brands you mentioned, and J Skis is actually very easy as they're local to us and Jason is a good friend.
I will add a vote for a Jski review. Love these videos. Thanks
Love to hear about the masterblaster and allplay
@@SkiEssentialswould love some reviews on JSkis joyride/allplay and Icelantic nomads
So many amazing choices … I’m a 68 year old advanced skier looking to replace my 2019 Kore 93 with something a little easier to turn at more moderate speeds. At 5’9”, 155 lbs, skiing mostly western US and Canada, on-piste, I’m looking at QST92, Ripstick, Liberty Radian and also options from your mid-90mm comparison (Ripstick, Blaze 94). Versatility is key … any words of wisdom? Thanks.
QST 92 and Blaze 94 stand out to me as versatile skis that can handle higher performance skiing. The Blaze is a bit lighter and more peppy while the QST is slightly smoother and better in softer snow and crud.
Rip for me
Stoked to hear the Prodigy 1 go in your quiver!
Looking forward to it!
In all seriousness, I would like to see a ‘Bob’s Bretton Woods Retirement Skis’ review. At 50 years old I continue to shop high performance skis but I know that soon I’ll have to trade off some of their attributes for more compliant skis.
This is a great comment and I hope to be able to get this review/comparison done! There are so many out there that have such a high ceiling but are not terribly demanding. Steadfast 85, Montero AR/AX, Dynastar M-Cross 88, and Volkl Peregrine V.Werks are at the top of my personal retirement ski list! I'm 47 now, so still have a few years to go!
Hi guys! How accessible is the Radian 92's performance, carving ability and edge hold? Are they enjoyable at lower speeds? I'm 5'9" 170lbs. I have the old Blaze 94s and really enjoy them. I think they're playful and easy to bend, great for short radius turns on high angle slopes, or letting the longer of the triple radii run on low/medium angle slopes. I'm not quite sure if the tight round turns I can make on them are a result of flex or shape, but I love that ability on- and off-piste. Edge grip has been adequate on icy patches, their light weight is a bonus and I even hit the jump lines. Since my Blaze 94s are frequently borrowed these days, I've thought about getting a duplicate pair. Instead, I'm now considering trying a different directional ski in the 90s-ish that may lean a little more toward low-tide conditions with a little better edge grip for those re-freeze or sastrugi days. It's fine if there's a lot of overlap in ski characteristics with the Blaze because I like them so much. I'd like to keep some sense of playfulness, and I'm not interested in charging or top speed. I have ON3P Jeffrey 100s, Woodsman 102s and BC Daemons for mild park, skiing switch and softer/deeper conditions. Those skis all have very short effective edges, so the Blaze are currently my best skis for hardpack, even though I ski them in all conditions. Other skis that seem like they might be in the running with Radian are Paragon, Rustler, Enforcer Unlimited, Declivity or Stance, but I'm afraid some may be too strong/heavy or get too far away from the characteristics I enjoy in the Blaze. I think I'm looking for high torsional rigidity for edge hold, but soft longitudinal flex for bending at lower speeds? In the other direction on the spectrum, the Liberty Scope sounded amazing when Bob described it as flowing through bumps like water. However, it sounds like that may have worse edge hold than the Blazes. How much would I be sacrificing or trading off with the Radian coming from the Blaze's easy-going nature? Is the firm snow performance and presumed increase in edge hold on ice worth it? How big a step toward the Radian is the new Blaze construction? If I'm open to suggestions if another ski sounds like a good match. I've already re-watched the 2025 comparisons and reviews, and appreciate all of your hard work. Thank you for so much great content over the years!
I felt that the Radian's lower speed performance was a highlight--great at shorter skidded turns and mid-radius carves. I'd say the Blaze 94 is a very comparable ski. Radian has a thin core profile so it's easier to bend than some thicker skis. If you're interested in Paragon, but aren't sure about the metal, check out the ZX 92--same shape as Paragon 93 but with a poplar/beech core instead of dual metal. If you look at Declivity, I'd go 88 C over 92 Ti.
hey guys great video! could you give me any advice? im deciding beetween the völkl mantra 88 and the atomic maverick 88ti. I ski in the alps, mainly on grooms but i discovered freeriding for me and i wanna get into that so like a 50/50 groomer and freeride, which is also able to hit the park sometimes would be perfect. im around advanced level ty in advance!
There's a lot more substance and confidence in the Mantra 88 than the Maverick. If you want a lighter and quicker ski, then the Atomic will hold up that end of the deal, but for everything else, I think the Mantra 88 is a very complete ski with a high level of performance that's still accessible at a variety of speeds and edge angles.
Hello, I have black crow atris for a powder day and now I'm looking for my main ski to use all season around.
I ski mainly with rossignol soul 7 around the rockies with a ratio of 20% (Steep Chutes), 50% (Groomers), 30% (Trees).
Not a big mogul fan but I can handle any bumps fairly well. I would say I'm an advanced skier,
with the experience of hitting most double blacks in Colorado.
Since I also enjoy carving when chilling on groomers, I want something that carves better than my rossignol soul 7 and
is good all around for most conditions, putting aside Atris for the powder days. I feel like Salomon qsts are the way to go but I might really enjoy the slight stiffness of mantra or enforcer when carving.
Now, I'm having a hard time deciding between Enforcer 94 172cm or Mantra M6 170cm or Salomon qst 92/98s.
I'm 5'9, 150, advanced. Which ski do you think might fit my need better?
The feel and character of the QST's will be more similar to the Atris, especially the 98. It sounds like you're looking for something more different. Personally, I think the new Enforcer 94 is a very complete ski with tons of confidence, power, and a surprising amount of versatility. I'd lean that way in the 172.
@@SkiEssentials I really appreciate it, you pointed out what I wanted to hear. I supposed QSTs might be similar to the Atris.
I’m currently trying to pick between playmaker 91, ripstick 88 and mirus cor. I demoed the MC and loved it, but it’s expensive and I didn’t take it on any steeper hills. I am not a good skier and currently ski Wingman 78C (168, I’m 5.10-185, beginner/low intermediate) and looking for something with mire float and playfulness. Basically need a good “dad” ski that is just fun to be on. Would I need to go longer than 168 with any of those 3?
Thanks for all of your great reviews!
The Ripstick is the easy and general choice here--it simply does everything really well. I'd go that route in the 168.
@@SkiEssentials thanks for the feedback! I was kinda hoping you would say mirus cor, but that prob isn’t the best option for a not so great skier on NY ice (even if it is super fun).
Gents,
I love my 23 kendo’s for their precision, energy and stability with being surprisingly easy to maneuver. The only thing I’d want is a little more lock in in the tail at the end of a carved turn. Sometimes, when I want to spring off the tails at the end of a turn, the kendo slides out instead of gripping and accelerating out of the tail. Probably my crap technique lol.
Do you think the mx88 is what I’m looking for? Anything I lose from the kendo in terms of stability and energy? I assume it will be a touch less pivoty (I think the kendo is really pivoty for what it is), but does the Mx end up feeling one dimensional next to it?
Using this ski mostly for aggressive fast carving down crappy munched up groomers and spring snow.
Also thinking about the peregrine 82 or deacon 84, or maybe some of the Fischer mid 80s charger options like the rc series.
Not to pile on the crap technique statement, but just want to make sure that boots are fitting properly with appropriate stiffness and that edges are sharpened before moving into MX world. In a vacuum, the Kendo should hold up just fine at the tail end of the turn. The MX will take it to the next level, as that squared shape and flatter profile really lean into the back portion of the turn. The Kendo is pretty rockered for it's use--mainly to help keep the 3D Radius functioning properly, and you can pivot quite simply--I do like that about the ski. You shouldn't need to look further than the MX, although if you're considering narrower, they also make the MX 84 which takes the torsional stiffness and carving power up another notch.
Love the video, the comparrisons are easy to understand and the whole „slarvy to carvy“ arragement is helpful too. I was looking for an All-Mountain Ski, with a bit of a focus on parks, since I wanna learn more and better tricks this and the following seasons. But since my budget isn‘t the biggest I though of getting an All-Mountain Ski, instead of „just“ a Park Ski, it‘s probably gonna be piste and park. I found many of then good and kind of fitting into my chategories. I especially liked the elan Playmaker 91. For not this one, but the one from 2024 I found a sweet 40% off deal. I don‘t know if they are really the best ski there for me, I think they fit quite nicely and, considering the deal, it‘s also a pretty good Price. That a good Idea or should I go for others? And what demessions are fitting? I‘m pretty tall, probably like 6‘4 and around 220 pounds heavy.
The Playmaker is very light and agile. If you're looking for supreme mobility and playfulness, you're in the right spot. At your stats, it's on the light and flexible side. I'd look to something with a bit more substance like the Black Crows Captis or the Line Optic 88. Those skis have the all-mountain performance you're looking for with a twin tip for learning park and tricks. While the deal might not be as good, you're probably going to get a better ski overall for your stats and application.
I’m a toss up with the mindbender 89Ti and the Mantra 88 this year 😅 any help to make that choice would be dope!!
Each time I get on the Mantra 88 I want one more and more. The K2 is a fine ski with great energy out of the tail and an awesome character, but the Volkl just stands up to a whole lot and at a very high level.
How would you compare the Declivity 92 Ti to the Enforcer 94? I’m guessing the Declivity is slightly better off trail, but how do they compare on trail? Which do you prefer?
By the way, love the videos and the way you have the skis organized. Would love to hear 2-3 personal favorites from each of you at the end of the comparisons.
The Enforcer is denser and more stable in a carved turn on-trail while the Declivity has a bit more pep and zest in a similar format. If I'm staying only on-trail, I'm taking the Enforcer, and I might even prefer it off-trail, too.
This did not disappoint. Nice job guys! But what about your top 3 personal picks? Did the optic 88 make it in Bob’s?
I (Bob) am going Optic, Anomaly, and QST. Jeff takes the Anomaly, Playmaker, and ARV 88.
@@SkiEssentialsAwesome. I really have to try the Anomaly 88
Great reviews as always boys. What would you say are your top 2-4 skis on the wall that get you most excited for this year and why?
Bob: Anomaly 88, Optic 99, and QST 92
Anomaly for pure performance, Optic for rarity of 88 mm twin tip with metal, and QST for overall satisfaction
Jeff: Anomaly 88, Playmaker 91, and ARV 88
Anomaly for pure performance, Playmaker and ARV for light, energetic park use
@@SkiEssentials blessss. Thanks y’all
Thanks for another great review!
Do you plan on a frontside skis review too as per usual?
I’m particularly curious about the new fischer the curv gt 80.
Thanks again
Yes we will get to the narrower skis for sure. In the meantime, the new Curv GT 80 feels like an incredibly crisp and round turner that is more agile than the outgoing RC One 82 GT. It's more of a pure carver than the 82 that felt like it wanted to be an all-mountain ski that could also carve race turns.
@@SkiEssentials Super interesting, I had a similar impression from the way Fischer presented it. Thanks again for the great insights!
Looking at the QST 92 to replace an old Rustler 9. As we all know, many ski days are on ice. Is the word "playful" code for 'find something else to ski on a firm day?' How does the QST 92 perform on firm days? With a good edge tune of course. Thanks a bunch!
I'm pretty surprised at the QST's grip on firm snow. Lots of energy and rebound out of the tail. While there's not the dampness of a metal-clad ski, the agility and pep is very impressive. And yes, the tune does make a good difference.
Could yall ever review Season Equipment Skis? I have a pair and I love them, but there is a huge lack of content around the brand
They look awesome. The Kin looks right up my alley. They're tough to get a hold of when it comes to demos but we're always on the lookout for opportunities. I've always liked Line skis, so the move for Eric to Season makes sense in my mind.
Im 6'4 225, just decided to get the Black Crow Atris as my all mountain ski (for soft, variable, and pow). I would like a 2nd ski in the quiver that will be better suited for cruddy days, ice, but if by off chance there is some fun stuff off-piste, it wont be out of place. Whistler is my home mountain for reference. What would you guys recommend as the perfect compliment to the Atris? Thank you!!
In this range, I'd take a look at the Salomon Stance 90 or the Blizzard Anomaly 88. The Stance is a bit lighter and more mobile than the Blizzard, which is more stable and damp for on-trail activities.
Is the stance 90 noticeably more playful than the mantra 88?Looking to replace last years kendo 88 with a more playful all mountain carver for VT skiing. Looking into stance 90, mindbender 89, optic 88 and ranger 90.
Thank you!
It is certainly more playful, especially with a lighter energy overall due to the caruba wood in the core. The Optic is the most playful on your list while the Ranger and the K2 fall into the middle category. The K2 and the Salomon are quite close with the shorter turn arc of the K2 as the main difference.
Great comparison!
How does one choose between the Anomaly 82 and Anomaly 88? Is it mostly down to skier level or also terrain based?
I'm assuming you mean the Anomaly 84 vs. 88. In this case, the 88 is more versatile and has a heftier feel due to increased overall mass. It's more stable and secure as a result. The 84 is quicker, more energetic, and more torsionally stiff for better edge grip and control. Skier level counts, as someone more intermediate will be able to handle the 84, but might not have as much success overall on the 88.
11:38 Jeff reliving his glory days as a Juicy Fruit rep.
Juicy Fruit is gonna move ya, juicy soft it gets right to ya, Juicy Fruit the taste the taste is gonna move ya!
Thank you for your videos. I’ve been loving the ripsticks 88 for years but now I feel like I need something a bit stronger. Will the new ripstick 88 satisfy that or may I go for another? I also own a pair of Montero AXs which I feel a bit too heavy at some point
I have not found the new Ripstick to be stronger. If you're looking for stronger without getting too crazy in terms of weight, I'd say the Atomic Maverick 88 and the Stockli Stormrider 88 are two awesome options.
@@SkiEssentials Many thanks for your reply. What a great timing!!! Looking forward to see 2025 video!!
Hi Bob, thanks for your hard work!
Which ski is the better carver, Ranger 90 or qst 92?
I prefer carving the QST 92.
How would you compare the Rossignol sender soul 92 compared to last year’s armada arv94 as far as all mounting and groomers. Which would have better edge grip? Great video
I'd say the new Soul 92 is a bit better in all-mountain and groomer performance with better edge grip. The ARV 94 didn't quite have the same energy and pep out of the tail as the new Soul 92.
Thanks for the response!
Great video as always guys. What length do you both prefer for the qst 92? I (6’0 215lbs) have an enforcer 88 in a 186 and a K2 poacher in a 177. I want to get the qst 92 for something to have in between both of those but I’m unsure on what length (176 or 184) to get for decent carving and playfulness.
I (Bob) would get the 184 were I to buy. That said, I felt fully comfortable and loved the 176--if someone gave me that length, I'd happily ski it. Jeff is a 176 all day.
Is a twin tip needed to do the sweet 180’s over rollers and little jumps like Jeff does?
While Jeff doesn't seem to need a twin tip to do sweet 180's, most other skiers likely will.
Understanding that Anomaly 88 is a “better carver” than Stormrider 88 (given its placement on the wall) does that necessarily mean that the Anomaly also has “better edge grip” than Stormrider 88 in firm and icy conditions? Many thanks -
In a vacuum, yes, the Anomaly will have better grip than the Stormrider 88 in firm and icy conditions. The heft and overall stiffness/core thickness make that the case. The Stormrider's tail is more directional/race-oriented, but other than that I put more stock in the Anomaly's firm snow performance.
@@SkiEssentials your insights are so valuable. Thanks.
Between the Stance and the QST which would you consider more playful and forgiving? Looking for this range to complement QST 106, Enforcer 100 and Rossy Forza’s.
The QST is more playful and forgiving.
Great test,I hesitate betweenel the salomon stance 90 or 96, do you have a preference? Thank you , regards from Belgium.I'm 5.7 and 124 pounds, Ski all terrain.
I like the 96 for a marginal increase in versatility. I also just like the balance point of the ski as it provides more suppleness.
I would really like some merch like jeff hoodie? Cant we buy those ? Would be kind of sick to see the tumbnail of 3h for the mid 80 all mountain vid😮.Thanks guys !!
I think the 3-hour mark is going to be tough to achieve--there's simply not enough room on the wall.
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Hello, guys. These arrangement of the skis seems very informative and creates a good comparison between the skis on the market. I have been skiing on a Atomic Theory 96 from 2014 and I am in the market for a similar ski but a bit more stable and carvy. I have managed to carve good turns with it in softer conditions but lately here in Eastern Europe they become much rarer. I can not decide where exactly my old pair of Atomics lands in this categorisation. What would you advise me to look for from this wall given that I am looking for something a touch stiffer, and more stable in some hardpack conditions?
Check out the Captis in this range while if you're looking for a more similar ski in the mid to upper-90's the Nordica Unleashed 98 is a wonderful ski.
Been waiting for this one, already have my amazing QST 98's, but i need something for those boilerplate days (weeks?). Commence the ski nerding lol
While you could certainly find something on this wall that will be a better option than the QST, especially the ones on the right side, I'd also wonder if you want to go narrower still to a wide frontside ski like the Blizzard Thunderbird R15 at 76 mm underfoot or meet somewhere in the middle with a Volkl Peregrine 82?
Not sure my carving skill is up to those skiis, pretty sure an 88mm twin is the sweet spot for me. Blade Optic has really got my attention...
Do you think the 2025 MX88 is worth the extra money over some discounted 2024 models?
It's not like the 2024 is all of a sudden a bad ski. The new ones feel more sophisticated with their new wood core, and the shovel is a bit easier to engage, but the top end of performance has not changed. Whether it's worth the extra money is a conversation you have to have with your bank account.
@@SkiEssentials I think that’s enough to convince me. If I was hearing that its very difficult to tell them apart aside from graphics I might just get last years, but if there are real improvements I think I’ll pay the extra $
Are the prodigy 1 and the Anomaly 88 similar in any way? I come from atomic piste ski but wanna try some all mountain, more playful and versatile ski. I see that the anomaly would fulfill better my needs but also prodigy 1 could also. Any suggestions? I basically looking for a ski that can do it all but more oriented towards groomers. (English not first language sorry for any mistake)
They're similar in that they're both skis. Other than that, they are about as different as it gets in a similar width. Anomaly is way more oriented towards groomers while Prodigy is more freestyle oriented and playful.
49:45 I'm watching this and thinking "dang this ski's profile looks a lot like my 2019 Rossi Sky 7" ski, then Jeff said it. Rossi should have never discontinued the 7 series and should have instead updated it. With this ski, it appears that they finally figured that out.
Other companies picked up on the shaping, too. Salomon's QST 92 and 98 as well as the DPS Kaizen and Wailer skis seem to take notes from the Sky and Soul series.
Interesting points made during the M-Cross bit. I have the M-Pro 85 and have found the same in terms of it not exactly loving short to medium length carving turns 'at speed.' I'm also 6'1 tall and weigh 190 lbs so also thinking that is the 85 simply not 'enough' ski for me if that's what I want to be doing.
Any thoughts?
It sounds like the move to some sort of metal laminate is warranted for that stability at speed. The M-Cross has it underfoot, but maybe you want some more? Mindbender 89 is one of the best on this wall and Mantra 88 is right there as well, just a bit more precise and demanding than the K2.
@@SkiEssentials great! Thanks. It was indeed between the Mindbender and M-Pro last season, and decided to go with the M-Pro. Gonna try to get on a pair of Mindbender's this coming season.
Follow up question: if I went with the Stance instead of the Mindbender, what should I expect?
In your opinion - Is the 2025 model Ripstick 88 enough of an upgrade over the outgoing 2024 model to justify the current price difference? (Comparing prices @ SkiEssentials).
Personally I don't think so. The 2024 Ripstick 88 is stiffer, more robust, and a better fit for heavier and more aggressive skiers.
@@SkiEssentials Given my weight, the 2024 sounds like the way to go. Much appreciated!
Thanks!
I know Peak skis are indy and there are so many choices. I am interested in the Peak 88 comparison if anyone has skied them
Hi, how does the m-cross compare with the Fischer Ranger 90 for an advanced-expert skier doing 50% groomers/50% off piste and quite fast ? It sounds the Ranger is more versatile and better off piste, but is the m-cross more stable, more powerful and with less chattering on groomers (the m-pro has a lot of it at high speed...) ? Thanks !
If you're 50/50, the Ranger is a better option. M-Cross is a more engaging groomer ski and can be fun in an off-piste realm, but Ranger is more designed for that style. Neither are particularly stable and powerful at speed--M-Cross is smoother in mid-radius turns.
thanks for the videos. I am a 55 year old man. I ski everywhere 2 to 3 weeks a year. I have knee problems. I am looking for a pair of skis to do everything. go in the powder when it rarely falls, and a pair that grips on hard snow. I weigh 100kg. thanks
Light and sturdy is the way to go here. I think that the Armada Declivity 88 C or the Atomic Maverick 88 are two fantastic options.
@@SkiEssentials thanks
@@SkiEssentials one more question, is the declivity 2024 the same as the one of 2025? because it is prettier.
Otherwise I was also thinking about the ranger 90 in 184cm because it is a little wider ???
@@gillesrecrosio502 2025 Declivity updates to smoother and quieter poplar wood vs. lighter and more jittery caruba. The 88, specifically, gets a softer flex with less carbon. I'm personally not a huge Ranger fan but I do know some people like them.
Funny question but if every ski here theoretically cost the same, which “feels” more premium in hand and skiing? I actually do appreciate a product that feels premium, especially when you’re spending $700-$2000.
I think that's a good question. Stockli is at the top for sure based on the complete and total silence and smoothness that it produces. Anomaly, Enforcer, QST, Captis, and Declivity are my other top choices for "feeling" like a premium ski.
There you are QST 92, this is prolly why I didn’t see a QST in the mid-90 review 😂
Yup, there it is!
Hi,
Is there any reviews coming of the Scott SEA series?
We have nothing planned, but they do look like very fun and innovative skis!
Line Optic as a Blizzard Rustler 8? My old Rustler 10 / Black Ops 98 ears just perked. And here I was ready to go Anomaly 88 for the no-new-snow, carve on/off piste days. I know the Anomaly requires more leg than the Optic (and my other skis), but like a whole 'nother leg? I do have solid technique, but I also ski laaaaaazy...
If you go Optic, be prepared for a more playful tail for sure. You do not get the same grip or energy as the Anomaly--maybe 3/4 leg? You can certainly ski lazier on the Anomaly than the Brahma. The Optic leaves some questions about top-end performance while the Anomaly does not.
@@SkiEssentials the distillation I was hoping to hear. Thanks guys!
How does the Optic 88 compare to the older Soul Riders? My friend has been looking for a replacement for his Spul Rider, he's not as fond of the Unleashed he purchased to replace it.
As a former Soul Rider 87 enthusiast, I do think the Optic 88 is a bump for sure. Captis as well, but Optic takes the smoothness and power to the next level while Captis retains more of the Soul Rider's playful and peppy character. So if he's looking for more of a similar ski, go Captis--for an upgrade in power, Optic.
Thanks that was helpful @@SkiEssentials
Hey, im thinking of buying the new bent 100s but idk what size i should get. Im 185cm tall 85kg lean but im bodybuilding so i will get heavier. I have the sizes i see are 179 and 186 i think i will get the 186 because that just 1cm away from my own lenght.
I agree that the 186 is the way to go here.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks really hyped to try them out this season!
@SkiEssentials - if you were to imagine the unleashed 98 but in this size range what would you say closest resembles that?
Optic 88 is a pretty close one, although I'd say the Captis is right there as well.
For the ripstick 88, i'm 5'9" 140lbs immediate-advanced, what length should I be looking at you think ?
I'd say the 175 is the way to go here--they're pretty light and agile so it's okay to go slightly longer.
The Salomon QST 92 at 167 cm seems longer than the Ranger 90 at 170 cm. Is this and accurate observation??
The QST is a 176 while the Ranger is a 170. The Declivity just to the right of the Salomon is also a 176, so just a hair shorter.
I have atomic redster ti in 170, I found them too physically hard to ski them in other snow than icy conditions, are elan ripstick or playmaker or similar, better for easy to use skis ?
Or do you guys have recommandations ?
Ripstick's will feel more familiar to you. Playmaker's are for tricking all over the place.
The Elan's are considerably easier to ski in softer snow, but then the flipside is that they don't work as well in ice. There are mediums as well here, with a ski like the Salomon Stance 90 operating well in a variety of conditions and terrain--maybe not as easy in powder, as the Ripstick, but certainly better at firm snow.
Hey guys, Looking for a ski for my 15 year old who is an intermediate skier, fairly tall (6'1"), but not heavy at 130-140lbs. I am thinking Bent 90 in a 175, or the Unleashed 90 in a 174. Thoughts? Anything else I might want to consider?
The Unleashed 90 has a bit more pep to it than the more flexible Bent 90. If you're looking for a sturdier feel, I'd go Nordica, but for more freestyle creativity, the Bent. The lengths sound appropriate. Elan Playmaker 91 is another fun ski that will be supportive and accessible.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks! I'll take a look at the Playmaker as well.
A 177 in the Brahma worked better for me than 184.. what would be equivalent in Anomaly88? Could I size up to 182?
I'd go 176 with the Anomaly. You could size up, but the skis are very sturdy and we've found that similar length preferences within Anomaly and Brahma align.
@@SkiEssentials Just out of interest, what length did you prefer Bob
The anomaly is easier to ski, so you could size up. I found the brahma 184cm was too much ski for me, while I found the anomaly in 182cm to be super easy and enjoyable everywhere. (I'm 188cm and weight 72kg)
@@damiencabirou2785 I’ll demo some but thinking 182 might work.. I(92kg/188) ski the 184 ‘24Mantra102 and it’s awesome! The Brahma was so solid in a 177 tho!
@@Lo-cj6ski 182 Anomaly, 183 Brahma 88
Salomon Stance!
No arguments here!
What fixation do I put on the black crows atris?
We're pairing the 2025 Atris with a Marker Griffon 13 and it works great!
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Twin tip, twin tip🎉🎉🎉. And jr twin tip for next generation?
We have been incorporating twin tips into these comparisons when relevant. If we have time later this fall, we might put them all on the wall together, but for now, including twins into the larger field is making sense for us.
Whats the best bump/tree ski?
It's tough to argue against the Bent 90 when you're looking for light weight and a flexible nature. The Kastle ZX 100 is amazing as well, especially in softer snow in the trees and it has a stiffer tail for skiers that like more responsiveness. The Bent is just so darn easy to smear and turn.
Nice presentation but I'm confused!
What can we help clarify?
@@SkiEssentials As mentioned earlier, I'm coming from the Deacon 84, putting with my well trained 197cm size 120kg on the ski and looking for an alternative with more surface to the ground. My focus is on Mantra 88, Mantra M7 and Kore 93 by expecting a perceptible difference to the Deacon in terms of 'handling'. On the other hand I love the precision of the Deacon and looking for similar in that respect. Last saison I tested the Maverick 88, it was comfortable but found it not reactive enough. I also love lighter ski's and tend to the Kore 93 today. Bob's explanations and experience with that ski sounds like what I'm looking for, but any other recommendations to look into are welcome. Love your professional presentations!!
We need an all-mountain twin tip comparison for those who want twin tips but don’t like to spend their time in the park.
We'll see if we can get to that by the end of the fall! We have decided to split the 100 mm comparison into two, one focused on more freeride skis (which will have a lot of twin tips), the other focused on more all-mountain themed skis, which really won't have many twin tips at all.
What about Head core 87???
In the video we discussed that the Kore 87 and the Black Crows Mirus Cor will be featured in the mid-80's comparison as that will range from 83 to 87 mm underfoot.
@@SkiEssentials thank you for your response!
Of the 8 skis on the wall from Maverick to Enforcer; which 3 should I demo for someone who is always looking for bumps and prefers to stay on the sides of the trail. Killington/Pico every weekend Opening to Memorial Day.
I'd say check out the Stance, Declivity, and Maverick--nice to keep it a bit lighter when it comes to shorter turns, bumps, and sides of trail.
Bob, what size do you ski the Stance 90? I'm 6'4" 215 advance/expert.
I've only ever been on the 182. I'm not sure the 188 would be my choice and I've never felt the 182 is too short or not burly enough. You're a bit taller and a bit lighter than me, so I bet the 182 will be good for you as well.
the Mindbender 90 C seems to be a really bad ski, you praise every ski to the heavens, but the Mindbender...nah
I have a friend and ski patroller here at Stowe and he loves the 90 C. Very good skier, loves bumps, trees, and short to mid-swing turns. No bad skis, just mis-matched ones to their pilots.
Too many skis. Too little time! :/
It's only two hours and forty-one minutes.
@@SkiEssentials its the 7sec that kills me
First😮