one of my favorite things during the fruits basket bit of this episode is how many people in the chat were like "i dont know who that is" "ive never watched this" "wait are they all animals?" like LMAO the fact that it's a majority male audience is REALLY showing here.. shout out to the shoujosei girlies in the chat though youre the real ones
@@scottbecker4367Also as a man, Fruits Basket (the remake) is a 10/10, but it ruined me emotionally multiple times. Chihiyafuru is also a good shojou show.
100% Matara should watch Frieren! (with us!) It's such a fantastic series, I love how uniquely expressive each of the characters are. It's like how you know people show love in different ways, there's a lot of that here and it's great every time.
I love Matara's take on the waifu tier list. She legit just knows what she wants and answers as if she's actually pondering marrying, like 'I want to be there for him', 'I don't want him to keep too many secrets'.. It's great
I came to the comments immediately after she said fox to see how many comments I could find bringing it up hahaha, and if I did see any I’d be saying it! Haha
I got so into Spice and Wolf while watching it I remember looking up if there really is a Celtic wolf delity like her and found out there isn't since wolves were adored more as guardians. But at the same time learned that really she's closer to a fox, and it has been jover since then because Holo is the reason for my fox obsession.
@@jayson3788 Holo being a wolf is restated and hammered every episode and every tome. She is proud of it, this not anecdotal. Her acting mischieviously is not enough to make her a fox spirit, haha
As a megafan of Tokyo Ghoul (the manga, not the anime where seasons 2 and beyond mangled the manga more than the villains did Kaneki lmao), your assessment of Kaneki is fair given what you know of him! BUT, as someone who knows this silly tragic goon from beginning to end, I shall relay where he'd rank *depending on where his character development is in the story: Black Haired Kaneki - kind of wimpy as Mint said, but he has a sincere and good heart and has quite honestly adapted to his traumatic experience a lot better than most people would have tbh. Still has very low self-esteem though and is definitely someone who's guided rather than the guider, but he's very much willing to learn and help; So probably *C tier* White Haired Kaneki - dude went through ten days of insane torture so he absolutely is not a fully stable person lmao. BUT, he does become the guider rather than the guided by this point, *and* he still retains his gentle, caring, even smiling side with close people he loves. However, he is hyperfocused on what he believes he needs to do to protect those he loves, and thus is neglectful if not counterintuitively selfish in his selflessness, and he can even be distant because he believes it's necessary. Thus he's likely *D tier* going off what yalls' general standards are Haise Sasaki - okay, so this is probably the most complicated. He is indeed still Kaneki (spoilers I guess?), but one with amnesia, because he went through even more trauma and this was his way of coping with it. Basically baggage personified lol. BUT, in terms of general personality and vibe, he quite honestly is probably the most husbando-material version of Kaneki ever lmao. He's gentle, he's hilarious, he's silly, he's stable (relatively), he's considerate, he listens to his found family and does his best to make sure they're comfortable, he can cook great despite the fact he doesn't even know what human food taste likes anymore. Narratively he's supposed to represent a Kaneki who never had to go through all the unfair shit that he did, and it adds a layer of tragedy to see how seemingly healthy and practically and emotionally dependable he would have been. But, again, bro is amnesiac and little by little he'll start to remember his trauma which might lead to a crazy development, but it does depend on whether his significant other helps ease him into reality. So while he would have been an S tier, his baggage probably drops him to A tier or probably more honestly *B tier* Reaper Kaneki - I alluded to it earlier, but Haise does end up going through even more trauma such that he remembers everything (including his childhood abuse, which even readers didn't know about until Kaneki remembers). And what does he turn into? Someone unfortunately and tragically obsessed with a plan to save his friends while dying in the process. It's Kaneki at his most unhealthiest mentally and emotionally, who just wants to call it quits yet wants to make a difference at the same time. Way more withdrawn and distant from the people he loves because he wants to ensure he sticks to his depressive endgame. Matara essentially covered his flaws wherever she read up on his baggage lol. He'd be D or even *F tier* tbh King/End of Series Kaneki - *S tier*. He does go through one last setback of terrible trauma followed by an insane reactionary consequence, but not long after he also gets his final stage of introspective character development which is beautiful and the highlight of his character journey imo. He's still imperfect, he might be "selfishly selfless," but he's grown enough to acknowledge and listen to others' insistence for him to rely on them from time to time. He is essentially Haise who went through his baggage in a healthier manner, and one who's finally stable. Idk what he's been doing since the series ended but I don't doubt he'd consider therapy for the sake of his wife and daughter~ Apologies for the long yap! Very fun episode with some pretty interesting and based answers heh. Kakashi, Gojo, Rem, and Frieren goated
Honestly I agree with Mint, the tier was rather mild in term of takes, I was expecting a little more spice. However, if it comes from a place of sincerity that's perfectly okay. The Zero Two ordeal... I don't even know, I've watched so much anime that when I see a toxic relationship or anything of the sort I'm like, "welp, what's new?" so it never stood out particularly. I watched it as it was airing though so I could have forgotten as well. Thank you for the episode!! love you two... and it's no secret, so don't you keep it
HAGS! The whole second half I was thinking about how the girls are all A or S tier for you and that was funny. Very understandable and valid though. Having not seen DitF I can't comment on zerotwo, but in Eva, Asuka feels weird because she was broken... Everyone was broken in that show so I could never think of any of them as waifu even back then. It just felt slightly too uncomfortable, but maybe it says more about me 🤷 Holo was done a bit dirty I feel because Mint forgor and Mata never saw the show, I recall she had a complicated relationship with Laurence, but the backlog of things to watch and play being enormous is not a meme or secret at this point so that's ok. Hopefully you can set some time aside for a (re)watch + Frieren for you Mata :) I feel like you'd like both! Thanks for the fun episode!
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No Kurisu Makise? I see. She must be the secret waifu then, there's no other explanation. El Psy Kongoroo.
Thanks for the podcast! I'm so late for this episode because I was being stupid and was too immerse in rewatching the old episodes. Matara, your opinion is CC is so true so based! She is best waifu ever! and Mint saying yes to girl who love pizza is also based! My ceecret is that when I watched the anime, first time I was rooting for someone else. Now like 10 years later watching the anime again, I love CC so much. She is so waifu material and she is so cute. I used to have a husbando list but now I'm growing up somehow I have more of my favorite girls and waifu more than guys for some reason too.
Excellent episode as always! I'd have to say that the tier list being "mild" is the secret reason I've not considered any tier lists of my own. I kinda just vibe or don't vibe with things, y'know?
For real Mata, you have to watch Sousou no Frieren and Spice and Wolf too (also, Holo is a Wolf Godess, not a fox) Also, is understandable that most of the ladies ranked on average higher than the bois, women are more loveable than men :) :( (this is a joke btw, dont wrry about it) and i didnt expect to see Tomoe on the list, it also worked as a reminder to finish that anime, bcos i've had it on hold for a looooong time
I really was down for the whole thing until she turned into a giant spaceship. I mean I don't know what the fuck I was watching but it was somehow heartwarming I guess?
Secret Well i was pretty late and onlu just joined at the waifus section. But i pretty much agree on the lists. I gotta rewatch the vod. Thank you for this week podcast episode 💖
Today I learned something about myself. The moment Holo got mentioned, my brain just switched to monkey / simp mode. I did not expect that. Holo is truly the apex of waifu material. Honestly, worth giving the first two or three episodes a chance, if you haven't. The new series has the old voice-actors and polished animation too.
For something interesting regarding the cardcaptors intro, check the aussie version. Its an honest attempt at translating "catch you catch me". If you like nonsense, check the UK intro (RAZZMATAZZ) they used on the final run because someone decided that paying for the american song was too expensive.
13:00 Thank you for the blast from the past. I was a kid when I originally watched the English Dub of Cardcaptors. Please watch Frieren, Mata! It's such a fantastic show with beautiful music, art, and animation! The plot is a secret you'll have to discover on your own. I hope that Mint gives "Spy x Family" a chance. It's a good show. I enjoyed hearing about the lore of the Momos. I wish I remembered which of the Sailor Moon girls I liked when I was a kid.
Should Matara watch Frieren?: Yes (listen to Mint please. Frieren is perfect but she's not the only perfect character in the anime) "The girl is nice! A!" Real. Same. Valid. I get Mint's point re a lot of the love for Nanami coming from his VA (also the series being that popular plays no small part) but at the same time I don't like many of the characters he voices as much (other than Tatsu from house husband but as you discussed he is the perfect man). I wouldn't even say I necessarily like JJK. This was fun! Secretly I was hoping one of my waifu/husbando picks would be on here but was very happy with what has been shown instead!
Mata talking about C.C. reminds me the fact that Lelouch is always keeping fake impression towards everyone and putting up different faces, everyone except C.C. where he can be his true self with.
Man I regret being behind on episodes for this one more than any because I would love to hear what Matara thinks of a waifu that is secretly close to my heart...Ryoko from Tenchi Muyo. Very Zen vibes...but will simp.
I don't have much to say about the husbando list. I was Yuki team in Fruit Basket, but as Mint explained he didn't see Tooru in a romantic way lol. I definitely agree with Usui, he is S tier, together with Misaki they are one, if not, my fav shoujo manga ship. Waifu tier... first of all, I'm deeply offended about comparing Zero Two with Asuka, that was... insane. Jibril is also my fav girl in NGNL so I agree with Mata in that one. I know people usually talk more about CC and Kallen in Code Geass, but Shirley is my fav one. They are all great tho. Can't ship Rei with Mamoru because I'm a Reinako shipper, so I'm fine with him and Usagi together. Mata should definitely watch Frieren, the secret here is that best girl is actually Ubel.
holo from spice and wolf definitely a personal number 1 and really happy to rewatch her in the new series. though honestly i think its also thanks to the OST of the original series that made me fall in love. sadly the new series music is just not quite the same and meet the same love as the original one
It's nice to see C.C. getting a lot of love from Matara. She and Rem (Re:Zero) were my big anime crushes. A woman who is loyal to the bitter end and inspires you to be your best is a genuine treasure.
- 1:46:26 - Some VTubers may have a secret obsession with finding a way to put their virtual selves into the real world. There are videos out there that have... interesting editing effects. Thank you for the podcast, Mint and Matara! 🌿👻🪳
Mint's biggest waifus are Kana and Frieren... I knew there was a secret reason she's my Oshi :3 Also, Mata needs to watch Frieren, Mint needs to watch Kaguya!
I don't have much interest in (or understanding of) 'waifu' lists, but I've noticed it's one of only occasions that Spice and Wolf is consistently brought up. I'm always happy to see it be talked about. While I'm usually not interested in romance, Spice and Wolf has a rare dynamic of two smart characters flirting with each other by showing off how clever they are to each other, something that I find a lot of fun. Mint calling it a show about economics is kind of true, I would call it economic intrigue. The conflicts are centered around business and markets, involving conspiracies and secret deals that Lawrence and Holo must navigate to keep from losing their business (Lawrence) or revealing who they really are (Holo). I can't really think of another series (especially in anime) that has both of these qualities.
A more detailed tierlist episode/stream would be fun! I highly recommend rating my lovely wife, Firefly. She’s super cute but also girl boss and has a big secret. If you ever need someone to sell you on her I’d ask Numi
Speaking of dubs of anime the Tokyo Mew Mew dub was awesome from the op to the classic unforgettable tune of "Mew Mew style, mew mew grace, mew mew power in your face"
Letting ya in on a not-really-secret but I have not actually finished watching Frieren, hah! I should catch up, but it's been good so far. The manga when I last left off (admittedly ages ago) was really good though- I always ended up drying about the first few volumes. So I dunno if that's a recommendation for you! As for waifus, I don't entirely get it, but Tohru is indeed surely a delight.
Men's criteria: Mint = Snake, Matara = Simp, no exceptions. Women's criteria: She likes pizza = marry It's so over bros 😭 Matara, I'm so absolutely on board with Mint's opinion with Frieren, you have to watch it. Make a little relaxing time, nice glass of wine, skin routine done, etc etc and watch it. Frieren herself is such a treasure and like what Mint said her and the anime really reignited feelings I thought I had lost as I got older. Absolute Cinema, watch it please lol
My immediate thought through the Naruto German opening tangent was collection of absolutely bonkers Sailor Moon openings. The French Sailor Moon opening in particular is kinda blursed, but the German one is a straight up thumpin eurorave song
Similar to the german Naruto opening, you have to check out the amazing dubbing work of Agapio racing team. It's all in finnish, but you can just hear the absolute quality of the dubbing. They managed to do 26 episodes of the original Digimon anime until viewers complained enough about the quality that they were discarded as the dubbing contractor.
It's so wild how there's some REALLY hot takes ESPECIALLY on some of the waifus chosen by the two of them that made a lot of people on the comments be like "WHAT? NO!" and "How could you!" but like, the next SECOND, they can be giving out ratings to some other waifu that makes everyone go like "oh yeah, that's a based opinion, 100% agree with them" LMAO 😅 ...On that note, Ram is best girl, more than Rem for me. Please forgive me for my dirty little secret, my oshi. 🛐
I try to give Inuyasha a bit more credit. I will admit that the love triangle does play out too much throughout the series, but there are other aspects about him that make sense when you consider his past. Anywhere between low B or high C in my opinion. 😅
For me, my top-tier waifu has to be Nico Robin from One Piece. She's intelligent, very chill, and is loyal to her friends willing to protect them at any cost. Plus, what those hands do? 😳
Based CC take, she's truly an MVP. However, the only thing I'd "debate" is that I always saw her relationship with Lelouch not as romantic but rather something more of a camaraderie, partners in crime (but idk, that's my perception). she also loves annoying the heck out of Lelouch usually because of pizza. She's S-tier waifu, but also *dream* pal. As for the guys, the only thing I'd add is about Naruto's dad Minato: he is also chuuni af, he always goes naming his techniques the most absurdly long and corny way. The only reason why the Rasengan is named like that instead of "Halo Frozen Dessert Hair Whorl Jiraiya Twin Formula Sphere" is because he was told that's long and lame. Not sure if that would give him points lmao.
Mata remembers Zero-Two pretty well. She was hyper attached to the main character, but all of them have a lot of trauma that conveniently results in memory loss of events. She's very sweet, but very jealous and immature.
I do kinda wish that they had picked their own husbandos and waifus instead of reading off a list made by someone else. Cause there were a few times when both Mint and Matara hadn't seen the anime, so they had to go off basic information.
Mint and Matara simply want to focus on the characters whom most of the audience already recognizes, and there is still plenty of fun in hearing their favorites among those characters. 🙂
Sorry, didn't you say last episode that this episode was going to be the Warhammer one? I'm not complaining, this was great too, but i was just curious about whether the Warhammer one is going to be the next one at this point or if the schedule got changed.
I'm also on team Rem is boring I'm afraid but that probably says more about me than Rem because I find it really hard to find girls I'd like. If I had to choose a girl from Re:Zero I kind of like Echidna ... though its no secret she's quite problematic in her own way. As far as Spice and Wolf goes I really like Holo but I don't think I'd marry her, I don't think we'd be compatible. The Spice and Wolf girl I'd go with would be Dian Rubens - Scholar, Alchemist, Historian, Heratic; what's not to love. My favourite sailor scout is Mercury/Ami. Not sure if I'd marry her though
That cardcaptor opening song? That was specifically the US/NA version, I believe. There was another one that was just new, English lyrics for the JP opening song, that's what we got here.
great episode! and no arguments here kaguya, kanna and frieren in S tier is all i needed to hear. nanami could have been higher imo but thats just bc i feel like we need more muscular men and less twinks LMAO. also YES mata you should watch frieren its definitely no secret that it’s so so good 🤭
Maybe I should keep this a secret, as I appear to be in the minority that didn't care for Frieren.. I watched like 12 episodes and realized I didn't care much about any of the main characters getting much screen time, so I just left it. I liked the premise from the first couple episodes, but then one of her major quirks personally irks me... I don't think I watch too much anime in general though; of all the ones listed, I've pretty much only watched Kaguya-sama and Spy X Family, both of which I enjoyed. (And some Sailor Moon very long ago.) And while I do like Kaguya herself, yeeah, I would say I like Chika more..
Personally I never perceived any of the males created by Rumiko as husbandos (the girls too) but I do like Inuyasha the most, though Rinne is a really nice and cool guy. The thing with the love triangle in Inuyasha is that there isn't any at all, because he's falling for the same girl at the end of the day. Kagome is what Kikyo wished she could have become had she been allowed to live like a normal teen, and once the anime gets there is really beautiful because Inuyasha basically has been loving two halves of the same girl with the same dedication. Anyway none of my husbando or waifu are here lol (expected, I tend to like characters from non mainstream anime the most) but for boys I wanna mention my first husband Oz Vezalious from Pandora Hearts, he recently got a nendroid and I'm sad it's still not fully animated. For girls, this one is more on my "she's literally me" list but she's so cute, if i hated Subaru I'd totally try to steal Emilia from him, I love Emilia so much and I'm happy for once the anime she's from is continuing to be animated.
I feel like Ranma 1/2 has the best potential waifu/husbando ratio... (OG Shampoo fan, here) And Lum is like the quintessential 80's waifu. Can't really comment on Inuyasha because I didn't care about it much.
I have not watched most of these anime, but I did notice that Matara didn’t like guys who were obsessed with their significant other yet the ladies who were that unhealthily obsessed got a pass. I guess the secret to Marata’s heart is to be a woman. Anyway, I recommend that Matara watch Frieren and the new Fruits Basket. And to Mint, I recommend Spy X Family.
Mint singing unravel while matara is rambling on the description for the next character is peak HAGSCast. That's the stuff I love and subscribe for
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Matara's SSS Tier husband is Gomez Addams. A man devoted to her, with his own interests and hobbies.
"They say that a man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client. Well as God as my witness I tell you; I AM THAT FOOL."
@@toospooky051did he actually say that in the movie?
@@elimDBZ Yeah, right before the cut to the judge very happily denies Gomez's claim 😂
I'm so glad Matara had never heard the German Naruto opening before. First reactions to it are always gold.
one of my favorite things during the fruits basket bit of this episode is how many people in the chat were like "i dont know who that is" "ive never watched this" "wait are they all animals?" like LMAO the fact that it's a majority male audience is REALLY showing here.. shout out to the shoujosei girlies in the chat though youre the real ones
As a man who watched Fruits Basket, it's great. Do yourself a favor and watch, gentlemen.
@@scottbecker4367Also as a man, Fruits Basket (the remake) is a 10/10, but it ruined me emotionally multiple times.
Chihiyafuru is also a good shojou show.
Here's a secret: Zen and Mata's relationship is definitely NOT one-sided, Zen is just tsundere.
100% Matara should watch Frieren! (with us!) It's such a fantastic series, I love how uniquely expressive each of the characters are. It's like how you know people show love in different ways, there's a lot of that here and it's great every time.
I love Matara's take on the waifu tier list. She legit just knows what she wants and answers as if she's actually pondering marrying, like 'I want to be there for him', 'I don't want him to keep too many secrets'.. It's great
Imagine calling Holo, the Wise Wolf of Yoitsu of Spice and Wolf, a fox spirit 😆
I came to the comments immediately after she said fox to see how many comments I could find bringing it up hahaha, and if I did see any I’d be saying it! Haha
Honestly I can’t blame her, people probably get her confused with a fox all the time
I got so into Spice and Wolf while watching it I remember looking up if there really is a Celtic wolf delity like her and found out there isn't since wolves were adored more as guardians. But at the same time learned that really she's closer to a fox, and it has been jover since then because Holo is the reason for my fox obsession.
@@jayson3788 Holo being a wolf is restated and hammered every episode and every tome. She is proud of it, this not anecdotal.
Her acting mischieviously is not enough to make her a fox spirit, haha
The show is literally called Spice & WOLF. C'mon, Mint.
As a megafan of Tokyo Ghoul (the manga, not the anime where seasons 2 and beyond mangled the manga more than the villains did Kaneki lmao), your assessment of Kaneki is fair given what you know of him! BUT, as someone who knows this silly tragic goon from beginning to end, I shall relay where he'd rank *depending on where his character development is in the story:
Black Haired Kaneki - kind of wimpy as Mint said, but he has a sincere and good heart and has quite honestly adapted to his traumatic experience a lot better than most people would have tbh. Still has very low self-esteem though and is definitely someone who's guided rather than the guider, but he's very much willing to learn and help; So probably *C tier*
White Haired Kaneki - dude went through ten days of insane torture so he absolutely is not a fully stable person lmao. BUT, he does become the guider rather than the guided by this point, *and* he still retains his gentle, caring, even smiling side with close people he loves. However, he is hyperfocused on what he believes he needs to do to protect those he loves, and thus is neglectful if not counterintuitively selfish in his selflessness, and he can even be distant because he believes it's necessary. Thus he's likely *D tier* going off what yalls' general standards are
Haise Sasaki - okay, so this is probably the most complicated. He is indeed still Kaneki (spoilers I guess?), but one with amnesia, because he went through even more trauma and this was his way of coping with it. Basically baggage personified lol. BUT, in terms of general personality and vibe, he quite honestly is probably the most husbando-material version of Kaneki ever lmao. He's gentle, he's hilarious, he's silly, he's stable (relatively), he's considerate, he listens to his found family and does his best to make sure they're comfortable, he can cook great despite the fact he doesn't even know what human food taste likes anymore. Narratively he's supposed to represent a Kaneki who never had to go through all the unfair shit that he did, and it adds a layer of tragedy to see how seemingly healthy and practically and emotionally dependable he would have been. But, again, bro is amnesiac and little by little he'll start to remember his trauma which might lead to a crazy development, but it does depend on whether his significant other helps ease him into reality. So while he would have been an S tier, his baggage probably drops him to A tier or probably more honestly *B tier*
Reaper Kaneki - I alluded to it earlier, but Haise does end up going through even more trauma such that he remembers everything (including his childhood abuse, which even readers didn't know about until Kaneki remembers). And what does he turn into? Someone unfortunately and tragically obsessed with a plan to save his friends while dying in the process. It's Kaneki at his most unhealthiest mentally and emotionally, who just wants to call it quits yet wants to make a difference at the same time. Way more withdrawn and distant from the people he loves because he wants to ensure he sticks to his depressive endgame. Matara essentially covered his flaws wherever she read up on his baggage lol. He'd be D or even *F tier* tbh
King/End of Series Kaneki - *S tier*. He does go through one last setback of terrible trauma followed by an insane reactionary consequence, but not long after he also gets his final stage of introspective character development which is beautiful and the highlight of his character journey imo. He's still imperfect, he might be "selfishly selfless," but he's grown enough to acknowledge and listen to others' insistence for him to rely on them from time to time. He is essentially Haise who went through his baggage in a healthier manner, and one who's finally stable. Idk what he's been doing since the series ended but I don't doubt he'd consider therapy for the sake of his wife and daughter~
Apologies for the long yap! Very fun episode with some pretty interesting and based answers heh. Kakashi, Gojo, Rem, and Frieren goated
Honestly I agree with Mint, the tier was rather mild in term of takes, I was expecting a little more spice. However, if it comes from a place of sincerity that's perfectly okay.
The Zero Two ordeal... I don't even know, I've watched so much anime that when I see a toxic relationship or anything of the sort I'm like, "welp, what's new?" so it never stood out particularly. I watched it as it was airing though so I could have forgotten as well.
Thank you for the episode!! love you two... and it's no secret, so don't you keep it
You absolutely should watch frieren mata its phenomenal
Man this one was a rollercoaster of "...so you're saying theres a chance" back down to "its so over"
HAGS!
The whole second half I was thinking about how the girls are all A or S tier for you and that was funny. Very understandable and valid though.
Having not seen DitF I can't comment on zerotwo, but in Eva, Asuka feels weird because she was broken... Everyone was broken in that show so I could never think of any of them as waifu even back then. It just felt slightly too uncomfortable, but maybe it says more about me 🤷
Holo was done a bit dirty I feel because Mint forgor and Mata never saw the show, I recall she had a complicated relationship with Laurence, but the backlog of things to watch and play being enormous is not a meme or secret at this point so that's ok. Hopefully you can set some time aside for a (re)watch + Frieren for you Mata :) I feel like you'd like both!
Thanks for the fun episode!
No Kurisu Makise? I see. She must be the secret waifu then, there's no other explanation.
El Psy Kongoroo.
The organization planned this
In Kaguya -sama anime the best girl is Hayasaka, because she has to keep up with all Kaguya's antics
Thanks for the podcast! I'm so late for this episode because I was being stupid and was too immerse in rewatching the old episodes.
Matara, your opinion is CC is so true so based! She is best waifu ever! and Mint saying yes to girl who love pizza is also based! My ceecret is that when I watched the anime, first time I was rooting for someone else. Now like 10 years later watching the anime again, I love CC so much. She is so waifu material and she is so cute. I used to have a husbando list but now I'm growing up somehow I have more of my favorite girls and waifu more than guys for some reason too.
Excellent episode as always! I'd have to say that the tier list being "mild" is the secret reason I've not considered any tier lists of my own. I kinda just vibe or don't vibe with things, y'know?
The top tier secret dream waifu from Oshi no Ko is Memcho
Ah damn, I'm super late. Time to catch up on the VOD
Honestly love the random unravel singing. 32:14 if anyone is interested
For real Mata, you have to watch Sousou no Frieren and Spice and Wolf too (also, Holo is a Wolf Godess, not a fox)
Also, is understandable that most of the ladies ranked on average higher than the bois, women are more loveable than men :)
:( (this is a joke btw, dont wrry about it)
and i didnt expect to see Tomoe on the list, it also worked as a reminder to finish that anime, bcos i've had it on hold for a looooong time
I'd say the polarizing part of Darling in the Franxx was the ending, not Zero Two.
While fair, it is also a Trigger trope at this point. XD
I really was down for the whole thing until she turned into a giant spaceship. I mean I don't know what the fuck I was watching but it was somehow heartwarming I guess?
And the homophobia
German sailor moon intro... 🎉😂
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Well i was pretty late and onlu just joined at the waifus section. But i pretty much agree on the lists. I gotta rewatch the vod.
Thank you for this week podcast episode 💖
Freiren seems worth watching, I'll watch it with you Matara!
Today I learned something about myself. The moment Holo got mentioned, my brain just switched to monkey / simp mode. I did not expect that. Holo is truly the apex of waifu material.
Honestly, worth giving the first two or three episodes a chance, if you haven't. The new series has the old voice-actors and polished animation too.
For something interesting regarding the cardcaptors intro, check the aussie version. Its an honest attempt at translating "catch you catch me".
If you like nonsense, check the UK intro (RAZZMATAZZ) they used on the final run because someone decided that paying for the american song was too expensive.
13:00 Thank you for the blast from the past. I was a kid when I originally watched the English Dub of Cardcaptors.
Please watch Frieren, Mata! It's such a fantastic show with beautiful music, art, and animation! The plot is a secret you'll have to discover on your own.
I hope that Mint gives "Spy x Family" a chance. It's a good show.
I enjoyed hearing about the lore of the Momos.
I wish I remembered which of the Sailor Moon girls I liked when I was a kid.
Should Matara watch Frieren?: Yes (listen to Mint please. Frieren is perfect but she's not the only perfect character in the anime)
"The girl is nice! A!" Real. Same. Valid.
I get Mint's point re a lot of the love for Nanami coming from his VA (also the series being that popular plays no small part) but at the same time I don't like many of the characters he voices as much (other than Tatsu from house husband but as you discussed he is the perfect man). I wouldn't even say I necessarily like JJK.
This was fun! Secretly I was hoping one of my waifu/husbando picks would be on here but was very happy with what has been shown instead!
*sitting here waiting for the apology video from Mint for the blasphemy of calling Holo a Fox.*
Mata talking about C.C. reminds me the fact that Lelouch is always keeping fake impression towards everyone and putting up different faces, everyone except C.C. where he can be his true self with.
LMFAO Matara definitely saw Dragon Ball Z on YTV as a kid. IYKYK
Yep. That wasn't Rock the Dragon!
38:10 Mata: “I like when they have been around the block.” Mint: ??
Edit: it got better! 38:47 Mata: “…weed every girl’s garden.” Mint: 😮
Man I regret being behind on episodes for this one more than any because I would love to hear what Matara thinks of a waifu that is secretly close to my heart...Ryoko from Tenchi Muyo. Very Zen vibes...but will simp.
1:28:15 Mint, as a fan of Oshi No Ko, please finish Kaguya Sama! It's incredible.
34:34 Mint discovers she has a tongue🤣
I don't have much to say about the husbando list. I was Yuki team in Fruit Basket, but as Mint explained he didn't see Tooru in a romantic way lol. I definitely agree with Usui, he is S tier, together with Misaki they are one, if not, my fav shoujo manga ship.
Waifu tier... first of all, I'm deeply offended about comparing Zero Two with Asuka, that was... insane. Jibril is also my fav girl in NGNL so I agree with Mata in that one.
I know people usually talk more about CC and Kallen in Code Geass, but Shirley is my fav one. They are all great tho.
Can't ship Rei with Mamoru because I'm a Reinako shipper, so I'm fine with him and Usagi together.
Mata should definitely watch Frieren, the secret here is that best girl is actually Ubel.
holo from spice and wolf definitely a personal number 1 and really happy to rewatch her in the new series.
though honestly i think its also thanks to the OST of the original series that made me fall in love.
sadly the new series music is just not quite the same and meet the same love as the original one
It's nice to see C.C. getting a lot of love from Matara. She and Rem (Re:Zero) were my big anime crushes. A woman who is loyal to the bitter end and inspires you to be your best is a genuine treasure.
- 1:46:26 - Some VTubers may have a secret obsession with finding a way to put their virtual selves into the real world. There are videos out there that have... interesting editing effects.
Thank you for the podcast, Mint and Matara! 🌿👻🪳
the Naruto German Op is Awesome
Mint's biggest waifus are Kana and Frieren... I knew there was a secret reason she's my Oshi :3
Also, Mata needs to watch Frieren, Mint needs to watch Kaguya!
Himmel should also be on the husbando tierlist 😢. instant S
I can't tell you my waifus because that is a secret. Matara does definitely needs to watch Frieren. I want to hear her opinions on it too.
I don't have much interest in (or understanding of) 'waifu' lists, but I've noticed it's one of only occasions that Spice and Wolf is consistently brought up. I'm always happy to see it be talked about.
While I'm usually not interested in romance, Spice and Wolf has a rare dynamic of two smart characters flirting with each other by showing off how clever they are to each other, something that I find a lot of fun. Mint calling it a show about economics is kind of true, I would call it economic intrigue. The conflicts are centered around business and markets, involving conspiracies and secret deals that Lawrence and Holo must navigate to keep from losing their business (Lawrence) or revealing who they really are (Holo). I can't really think of another series (especially in anime) that has both of these qualities.
This forever. Spice n wolf peak banter
Even As a guy in his 30s who started watching in the mid noughties Pink Mint/Matara saying SAO is "new" sent me 😂
Dude as soon as Mata said SAO…that came out 12 years ago back when I was still pulling up spring and summer anime charts to see what to watch T-T
I was in college when Sao came out. Damn I'm old
Reze is secretly the best waifu in chainsawman imo
A more detailed tierlist episode/stream would be fun! I highly recommend rating my lovely wife, Firefly. She’s super cute but also girl boss and has a big secret. If you ever need someone to sell you on her I’d ask Numi
1:28:50 I cannot forgive this Hayasaka erasure. She's even a maid!
Speaking of dubs of anime the Tokyo Mew Mew dub was awesome from the op to the classic unforgettable tune of "Mew Mew style, mew mew grace, mew mew power in your face"
Letting ya in on a not-really-secret but I have not actually finished watching Frieren, hah! I should catch up, but it's been good so far. The manga when I last left off (admittedly ages ago) was really good though- I always ended up drying about the first few volumes. So I dunno if that's a recommendation for you! As for waifus, I don't entirely get it, but Tohru is indeed surely a delight.
So happy Tohru showed up on the list because that's my number 1 Waifu
Next Mint Stream Idea: Mint goes to the Grocery Store
Men's criteria: Mint = Snake, Matara = Simp, no exceptions.
Women's criteria: She likes pizza = marry
It's so over bros 😭
Matara, I'm so absolutely on board with Mint's opinion with Frieren, you have to watch it. Make a little relaxing time, nice glass of wine, skin routine done, etc etc and watch it. Frieren herself is such a treasure and like what Mint said her and the anime really reignited feelings I thought I had lost as I got older. Absolute Cinema, watch it please lol
"I dunno, I haven't seen it. I dunno, I hav-" 😭
Speaking of banger English anime openings, up in my top favorites are Digimon Frontier and Shaman King.
My immediate thought through the Naruto German opening tangent was collection of absolutely bonkers Sailor Moon openings. The French Sailor Moon opening in particular is kinda blursed, but the German one is a straight up thumpin eurorave song
Tuxedo mask is my hero. Show up, let the woman do all the work, then smile and say “You’re welcome, princess!” and leave 😂
Similar to the german Naruto opening, you have to check out the amazing dubbing work of Agapio racing team. It's all in finnish, but you can just hear the absolute quality of the dubbing.
They managed to do 26 episodes of the original Digimon anime until viewers complained enough about the quality that they were discarded as the dubbing contractor.
It's so wild how there's some REALLY hot takes ESPECIALLY on some of the waifus chosen by the two of them that made a lot of people on the comments be like "WHAT? NO!" and "How could you!" but like, the next SECOND, they can be giving out ratings to some other waifu that makes everyone go like "oh yeah, that's a based opinion, 100% agree with them" LMAO 😅
...On that note, Ram is best girl, more than Rem for me. Please forgive me for my dirty little secret, my oshi. 🛐
Yes, Mata you should watch Frieren
I try to give Inuyasha a bit more credit. I will admit that the love triangle does play out too much throughout the series, but there are other aspects about him that make sense when you consider his past.
Anywhere between low B or high C in my opinion. 😅
Mata needs to listen to Mint and watch Frieren, yes. 02 is also countless red flags.
For me, my top-tier waifu has to be Nico Robin from One Piece. She's intelligent, very chill, and is loyal to her friends willing to protect them at any cost. Plus, what those hands do? 😳
The secret true tier list Novel Holo > Original series Holo > New series Holo > all other waifus.
Our wise wolf stands above the others
I love that with zero two people were complaining on the show instead of zero two herself lol
Taking notes I understand
Based CC take, she's truly an MVP. However, the only thing I'd "debate" is that I always saw her relationship with Lelouch not as romantic but rather something more of a camaraderie, partners in crime (but idk, that's my perception). she also loves annoying the heck out of Lelouch usually because of pizza. She's S-tier waifu, but also *dream* pal.
As for the guys, the only thing I'd add is about Naruto's dad Minato: he is also chuuni af, he always goes naming his techniques the most absurdly long and corny way. The only reason why the Rasengan is named like that instead of "Halo Frozen Dessert Hair Whorl Jiraiya Twin Formula Sphere" is because he was told that's long and lame. Not sure if that would give him points lmao.
Mata remembers Zero-Two pretty well. She was hyper attached to the main character, but all of them have a lot of trauma that conveniently results in memory loss of events. She's very sweet, but very jealous and immature.
Only Matara is allowed to have issues, her husbando can never.
I do kinda wish that they had picked their own husbandos and waifus instead of reading off a list made by someone else. Cause there were a few times when both Mint and Matara hadn't seen the anime, so they had to go off basic information.
Mint and Matara simply want to focus on the characters whom most of the audience already recognizes, and there is still plenty of fun in hearing their favorites among those characters. 🙂
Agreed, I really see no point or value in not handpicking your own list. I wanna know what *their* favorite characters are, not the broader public.
Sorry, didn't you say last episode that this episode was going to be the Warhammer one? I'm not complaining, this was great too, but i was just curious about whether the Warhammer one is going to be the next one at this point or if the schedule got changed.
I'm also on team Rem is boring I'm afraid but that probably says more about me than Rem because I find it really hard to find girls I'd like. If I had to choose a girl from Re:Zero I kind of like Echidna ... though its no secret she's quite problematic in her own way.
As far as Spice and Wolf goes I really like Holo but I don't think I'd marry her, I don't think we'd be compatible. The Spice and Wolf girl I'd go with would be Dian Rubens - Scholar, Alchemist, Historian, Heratic; what's not to love.
My favourite sailor scout is Mercury/Ami. Not sure if I'd marry her though
That cardcaptor opening song? That was specifically the US/NA version, I believe. There was another one that was just new, English lyrics for the JP opening song, that's what we got here.
great episode! and no arguments here kaguya, kanna and frieren in S tier is all i needed to hear. nanami could have been higher imo but thats just bc i feel like we need more muscular men and less twinks LMAO. also YES mata you should watch frieren its definitely no secret that it’s so so good 🤭
Secret Service announcement Mata and Mint are top tier waifus.
Maybe Mint can have a secret membie watch along of spy x family. It's so good. Yor is definitely S tier.
Secret: Great EPISODE for wwifu and husbando enjoyers
Lol at sailor moon having a lofi aesthetic because it was lofi
I only have 1 thing to say:
C.C. is GOD TIER. She is a tier above everything else.
Mint will definitely like Tatsu from Gokushufudou. It's the same low voice VA in JJK iirc.
Maybe I should keep this a secret, as I appear to be in the minority that didn't care for Frieren.. I watched like 12 episodes and realized I didn't care much about any of the main characters getting much screen time, so I just left it. I liked the premise from the first couple episodes, but then one of her major quirks personally irks me...
I don't think I watch too much anime in general though; of all the ones listed, I've pretty much only watched Kaguya-sama and Spy X Family, both of which I enjoyed. (And some Sailor Moon very long ago.) And while I do like Kaguya herself, yeeah, I would say I like Chika more..
1:34:20 Matara's Ash Ketchum
I think Matara would like Able Nightroad from Trinity Blood.
Personally I never perceived any of the males created by Rumiko as husbandos (the girls too) but I do like Inuyasha the most, though Rinne is a really nice and cool guy.
The thing with the love triangle in Inuyasha is that there isn't any at all, because he's falling for the same girl at the end of the day.
Kagome is what Kikyo wished she could have become had she been allowed to live like a normal teen, and once the anime gets there is really beautiful because Inuyasha basically has been loving two halves of the same girl with the same dedication.
Anyway none of my husbando or waifu are here lol (expected, I tend to like characters from non mainstream anime the most) but for boys I wanna mention my first husband Oz Vezalious from Pandora Hearts, he recently got a nendroid and I'm sad it's still not fully animated.
For girls, this one is more on my "she's literally me" list but she's so cute, if i hated Subaru I'd totally try to steal Emilia from him, I love Emilia so much and I'm happy for once the anime she's from is continuing to be animated.
I feel like Ranma 1/2 has the best potential waifu/husbando ratio... (OG Shampoo fan, here) And Lum is like the quintessential 80's waifu. Can't really comment on Inuyasha because I didn't care about it much.
Matara should watch Frieren and Mint should watch Code Geass (I can't believe she hasn't). Holo love❤
mint calling the wise wolf holo a fox spirit is actually a clue to the undeniable fact that she's secretly a fake weeb
It's no secret that Emelia is best girl! But honestly, most surprised that Rin or Saber from Fate did not get a mention.
Secret yes
I don't get trigger, but mint got me when she called holo a fox, she's "holo, the wise wolf"
Mata should definetely watch frieren! and... code geass minto watchalong when?
So basically Matara's type is Elvis? Open shirt with a necklace and sideburns.
Nah, the lyrics were "DRAGON DRAGON! ROCK THE DRAGON, DRAGON BALL Z!"
I have not watched most of these anime, but I did notice that Matara didn’t like guys who were obsessed with their significant other yet the ladies who were that unhealthily obsessed got a pass. I guess the secret to Marata’s heart is to be a woman.
Anyway, I recommend that Matara watch Frieren and the new Fruits Basket. And to Mint, I recommend Spy X Family.
Never wouldvr guessed Megan The Stallion would come out with a weeb banger lmao. I'm not into her music but gotta admit its good for the culture lol
Not so secret, my dream is for you two to have Kiwawa on the podcast someday. I know the chances are non existent...hence why its a dream
Man, shoutouts to Sayonara Stay Night
Matara you will LOVE Frieren (you will also cry).
It's been a long time since I watched an anime, I think I need to watch some of the latest anime