Early Rapier or Sidesword

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  • @ladyymir1478
    @ladyymir1478 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    Easily one of the prettiest swords I've ever seen.

  • @markkodryk829
    @markkodryk829 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    That sword is beautiful.

  • @George_M_
    @George_M_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

    The frequent implications that his sponsor is just plain wrong about the dating is funny.

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      These videos are not sponsored and all opinions are my own - I might be wrong :-)

  • @Kamamura2
    @Kamamura2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Sideswords are fine, because opponents tend to be vulnerable when flanked, but even sidesword pales before the backsword with its stellar 3xCRIT backstab damage.

  • @JanetStarChild
    @JanetStarChild 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    That is indeed a beautiful sword. It sits somewhere between refined and rustic; it looks elegant yet robust.

    • @williestyle35
      @williestyle35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The more Matt showed it, the more I thought the same thing.

  • @speakupriseup4549
    @speakupriseup4549 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The diamond pattern on the grip is very appealing

  • @hraefn1821
    @hraefn1821 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    that is gorgeous condition. I'm loving this 50/50 balance between rapier and side sword. I'd LOVE a reproduction of this to cut with.

  • @theeddorian
    @theeddorian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    One sound reason for wearing an older sword is simply that it serves the purpose it was designed for.

    • @emmitstewart1921
      @emmitstewart1921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Another reason might be that you have used that type of sword before and are more comfortable using it than a more modern style of weapon.

    • @theeddorian
      @theeddorian 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@emmitstewart1921 More or less what I meant. Shifting to a fully thrust-oriented would require a lot of retraining. One thing that might be a consideration is that chopping, slashing, and similar motions are reflexive in combat. So, that "cut" element in cut-and-thrust can be highly relevant.

    • @exploatores
      @exploatores 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It could be a way of showing that the family has history. even my grandfather could aford a expensive sword.

  • @Josh_Green44
    @Josh_Green44 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That is a fantastic example, indeed.
    Key elements that I particularly like are the "short" grip, the substantial roundish pommel, and the length of the arms of the crossguard. The blade is obviously beautiful, too. Looks like a very balanced and nimble sword.

  • @FiliiMartis
    @FiliiMartis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Thank you, Matt! You made my day.
    I had a look at what we would call Bolognese sideswords, pieces held in museums and sold at auctions, and my estimates from photos (where possible) give blades under 3.5cm wide, closer to 3.2cm (at the widest point). So yes, the sideswords are closer to spadroons than broadswords.
    Broader balded swords are referred to by Italians as Spada da Fante (infantry sword) and I would adapt it to English as Field Swords (from field of battle). They tend to be shorter than 90cm in blade length, though. Ultimately, I fully agree that we need to consider the fencing system when calling a swords something or another. The separation between a rapier and a sidesword is mainly due to the fencing system, and Camillo Agrippa (died 1595) is the line in the sand.
    Last, the Oakeshott Institute has a relatively famous piece (Spanish Rapier) made in 1596 in Toledo by Alonzo de Sahagun. The guys at Arms and Armor use it quite a lot in their videos to showcase original pieces. The sweeps are basically the same. These are the only two swords that have this type of sweeps as far as I found (in particular the abrupt connection with the finger ring or the rear side-port ring; compared to a more gradual transition, if people know what I mean). This is why the piece from the Olympia Auctions caught my eye (and such a beautiful piece). The way the quillon block allows for the thumb to rest is also quite elegant.

    • @steemlenn8797
      @steemlenn8797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ah, the famous Bolognese sideswords, used to chop meat really really small!

    • @FiliiMartis
      @FiliiMartis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@steemlenn8797 Is this a pasta joke? Look into Bologna and its history. There are more important things associated with that city than a meat sauce. Just saying... there's an entire fencing tradition named after it (and since this is a sword related channel I'm ignoring the university system it created, just like I am with the sauce).

    • @steemlenn8797
      @steemlenn8797 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@FiliiMartis So fencing isn't about chopping meat?
      Yes, of course it was a joke. Just laugh. Or ignore it if you think it's stupid.

    • @FiliiMartis
      @FiliiMartis 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@steemlenn8797 "So fencing isn't about chopping meat?" No, since we wouldn't otherwise have a discussion about what is a cut and thrust sidesword and what is a thrust focused rapier. So it's not about chopping meat, it's also about skewering it.
      P.S. Oh, it was a joke (then I'll give it a 3/10; mine was better). I guess it wasn't to my taste... I'm on a diet.

  • @ChloeV-c3d
    @ChloeV-c3d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I can't wait for that little smallsword on the backwall there, looks gorgeous!

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Unfortunately I didn't do that one.

    • @ChloeV-c3d
      @ChloeV-c3d 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@scholagladiatoria :O guess I'll have to grab a lottery ticket and see if I can't get a better close up!
      Appreciate all the time and effort you put in Mr Easton.

  • @jeremiahkindel9301
    @jeremiahkindel9301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    That sword is beautiful! That one needs to be reproduced by windlass. Matt please tell me you got measurements and pictures. For the next windlass release.

  • @kaoskronostyche9939
    @kaoskronostyche9939 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Cool sword. I would think it is a rapier at that length and thinness. Nevertheless, cool sword and thank you for giving us the opportunity to see the auction stock with your learned commentary in the actual context. Cheers!

  • @crazypetec-130fe7
    @crazypetec-130fe7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Prettiest sword yet from this collection. If I won the lottery, I'd bid on it.

  • @TheKiltedYaksman1
    @TheKiltedYaksman1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The pommel makes me think of a pinecone.

  • @TheFlyingMage
    @TheFlyingMage 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Something about the design of this sword makes it very appealing. It wants to be in your hand.

    • @williestyle35
      @williestyle35 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thought this exact thing when Matt showed the hilt in close up. Good comment.

  • @PalleRasmussen
    @PalleRasmussen 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Another beautiful blade.

  • @tatache5971
    @tatache5971 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This sword is gorgeous. Exactly the style of rapier that have my preference, which goes pretty will with some Giganti or Fabris fencing style. I have a rapier made by Tod in this style which is absolutely stunning.

  • @patrickkelly1070
    @patrickkelly1070 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What a lovely example. Mat, thanks for sharing it with us.

  • @Redeye308350
    @Redeye308350 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful! Please inspire Windlass to add that to their reproductions

  • @robinmarks4771
    @robinmarks4771 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Absolutely exquisite piece.

  • @SixDeadZeroHEMA
    @SixDeadZeroHEMA 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It is certainly hard to agree classifications for swords which, contemporarily, were not really classified, and therefore not designed to be specifically distinct from one another. Sidesword/rapier is probably the messiest and greyest area in the business.
    For me, a rapier is a later sword with a thinner blade specialised for thrusting (although still very capable of delivering effective cuts) and a sidesword is an earlier sword, broader bladed with a focus on cuts. Which makes this sword... a transitional sword between rapier and sidesword?
    My opinion is not very helpful here. I'd call it a sidesword if you forced me to pick one, but I wouldn't be correcting anyone saying this is a rapier.
    EDIT: lol just watched the rest of the video, nice to see Matt came to the same conclusion! Glad I'm not talking nonsense.

  • @Poohze01
    @Poohze01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's my kind of rapier! Beautiful piece!

  • @zackrudisaile4038
    @zackrudisaile4038 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow! Loving the proportion of the hilt. Nice small handy components.

  • @emmitstewart1921
    @emmitstewart1921 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    When I see such a beautiful weapon, I can't help wondering about its personal history. Who made it? Who was it made for? When and where did it see action? Was it passed down through some family as a treasured heirloom, or was it pawned and laid on the pawnshop shelf for centuries?

  • @BreakChannelZero
    @BreakChannelZero 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Gotta say, I really did enjoy seeing that sword.

  • @willinnewhaven3285
    @willinnewhaven3285 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We have that "unknown alien fruit" growing out back. The iguanas like it..

  • @strategicbushcraft6391
    @strategicbushcraft6391 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like a rapier to me. This example is a very good all-around weapon.

  • @adamtennant4936
    @adamtennant4936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What a gorgeous sword!

  • @robertfoley8414
    @robertfoley8414 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Send info to Windlass! Send to LK Chen! Must be copied!

    • @KJAkk
      @KJAkk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I just had the same thought. Do it!

    • @richardpashos
      @richardpashos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      No. They will just make hilts by casting and it will be rubbish.

    • @stefthorman8548
      @stefthorman8548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@richardpashos so it's not the shape of the hilt you like, it's the polish? and construction method? are you serious?

    • @MrWizardjr9
      @MrWizardjr9 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      If they are interested they can buy it

  • @jessebechtold2973
    @jessebechtold2973 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That would be an awesome candidate to work with Windlass on in the future, beautiful!

  • @maikerusazarando857
    @maikerusazarando857 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The audio on this one was pretty good

  • @Cyberrat629
    @Cyberrat629 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What a beautiful sword! Thank you so much for sharing this with us Matt. Another vote, or hope, or pleading for LK Chen to be able to make copies of this sword.

  • @metal--babble346
    @metal--babble346 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    the length is incredible. Extra pokey

  • @timjacobs8169
    @timjacobs8169 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd love to see a video on the rapier and other weapons found in the Theodul glacier

  • @mallardtheduck406
    @mallardtheduck406 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matt, You are an incredibly lucky man to be able to hold that beautiful Sidesword/rapier. I believe your Assessment of the piece is correct. I hope You become the owner of it. You deserve it due to the knowledge and passion you have for historical swords! 🦆

  • @gamerandartist2
    @gamerandartist2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Soon, you to will join the sidesword and rapier group. I miss doing sabre.

  • @martinhg98
    @martinhg98 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can you make a video on the types of sword that cavalry and infantry soldiers usen in the 1550s - 1650s

  • @benway23
    @benway23 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for your work.

  • @benjaminjohnson6936
    @benjaminjohnson6936 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That sword is, there is no other way to put it, sexy af. I am a sidesword guy and I would absolutely love to have a sword like this.

  • @samuelferrell9257
    @samuelferrell9257 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A side rapier sword. Beautiful

  • @thinusconradie4297
    @thinusconradie4297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ah yes, the Unknown Alien Fruit pommel. I think it's referenced in exactly those words in the Elizabethan "Thee Anarchiste's Cookebooke".

  • @davidhawley3337
    @davidhawley3337 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Someone, or a long line of someones, must have made some effort or gone to some trouble to preserve it. From here I see some age patina, but no significant corrosion.

  • @DarthGibberish
    @DarthGibberish 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    IMO the difference isn't in the hilt, it's in blade length and geometry. Side swords are shorter and have a blade that narrows to a point fairly regularly. A rapier has a longer blade that narrows slowly over the length of the blade and then narrows to a point abruptly at the tip.

  • @ThomasAndersonPhD
    @ThomasAndersonPhD 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful!

  • @lanceriggs534
    @lanceriggs534 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love such swords and I'm curious how effective they are. Sounds like they are good at cut and thrust.

  • @Miller1398
    @Miller1398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can understand wanting to use your father's sword. I used my dad's clutch pencil and my grandfather's railroad curves to draft

  • @bobrobinson1576
    @bobrobinson1576 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Both blade and hilt construction scream sidesword. I do like that grip. If that's not original it's done by an artist.

  • @SuperThodin
    @SuperThodin 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Beautiful sword.

  • @robbikebob
    @robbikebob 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Convinced that you were going to finish the piece saying "...and, I've bought it.." 😅

  • @DawnLenn
    @DawnLenn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Beautiful sword! 😍

  • @davidioanhedges
    @davidioanhedges 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Side Sword is a sword you wear at your side
    Rapier is a espada ropera, or dress sword - i.e. one you wear at your side ...
    This is a beautiful sword that is between being worn at the side and when properly dressed ...😉

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The 'ropera' explanation is now generally thought to be wrong, and is a term that barely ever turns up in period texts. It is now thought that the word derives from the French word raspiere - to poke

    • @davidioanhedges
      @davidioanhedges 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scholagladiatoria So it's a poking sword, not a worn sword ... which is mostly used to poke ...

  • @-RONNIE
    @-RONNIE 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks for the video personally for me I would rather not have a rapier or a side sword they're just not my style. Now I will say the people who made them back then & even now are true craftsman because a lot of them are very beautiful & I can appreciate that ⚔️

  • @rembrandtshadows
    @rembrandtshadows 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there a modern replica of this blade?

  • @CRIS.V1891
    @CRIS.V1891 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very beautiful sword ! 🤤👏

  • @DETHMOKIL
    @DETHMOKIL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    oh man matt, you just made me register for an overseas auction with a 25% premium, don't make me actually start bidding lol

  • @raphlvlogs271
    @raphlvlogs271 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    do you consider the Sidesword a transitional stage between the medieval arming sword and the rapier?

  • @robertvondarth1730
    @robertvondarth1730 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    We call those war rapiers

    • @vedymin1
      @vedymin1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      So basically some sideswords went full rapier and then came back to sideswords as war rapiers ? So many transitions...i wonder if they needed surgery 🐸

  • @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302
    @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Love that sword, eh.
    That just about tops every one of the sabre designs.
    If I had the spare moula it would definitely be mine.

  • @JustClaude13
    @JustClaude13 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I would call it a transitional rapier. Not quite a true rapier but no longer a conventional cut and thrust.
    I suspect like Fred Astaire, it can dance a little.

  • @kentallard8852
    @kentallard8852 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    another reason an older sword might be in the portrait is the subject didn't stand for it and the artist drew it from a stand in with a prop

  • @GaryChurch-hi8kb
    @GaryChurch-hi8kb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It is dated to the period where the mix between pike and shot was going toward the shot and the almost complete abandonment of armor.

  • @alfonzo9152
    @alfonzo9152 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Lovely, what is the ricasso thickness?

  • @Nerval-kg9sm
    @Nerval-kg9sm 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm happy to know that the Balder Side Sword in Dark Souls 1 had an accurate moveset.

  • @marksteven6116
    @marksteven6116 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    very nice hope they dont ban them

  • @stephend50
    @stephend50 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Stabby Boi

  • @retohaner5328
    @retohaner5328 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't beat the rapier allegations

  • @salvadorsempere1701
    @salvadorsempere1701 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    After Matt making an Ian it´s he going to change the name of the channel to "Forgotten Weapons"?

  • @lukewilliams8548
    @lukewilliams8548 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In my perceptions, the blade is too long and narrow for a side sword (though I know that's subjective). Plenty of other rapiers have similar cutting capacity (so far as I know). Though when it comes to hilt complexity/coverage, I think this one is very much in the in-between/overlap.

  • @deedoublejay
    @deedoublejay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Curious to see how much Matt comes home with on the 26th.

  • @HobieH3
    @HobieH3 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sweet!

  • @BuffordEvans
    @BuffordEvans 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would it take ?

  • @brassbandmission1643
    @brassbandmission1643 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Rapiers are cool!

  • @sky4eyes
    @sky4eyes 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    so did you buy anything

  • @EddieWhitmon
    @EddieWhitmon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Scholly!

  • @somerando1073
    @somerando1073 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very nice sword. While I understand the fuzziness of period sword naming, to me, I would definitely call that a rapier.

  • @andreweden9405
    @andreweden9405 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Matt, I may have missed it, but what do we think the nationality of this sword is? Or is it sort of "international" in style?

  • @Jim58223
    @Jim58223 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What watch are you wearing Matt? Thanks

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      A Seiko. I'm not actually sure which model it is.

    • @Jim58223
      @Jim58223 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@scholagladiatoria Thanks, was looking to get a new watch

  • @RMATFL
    @RMATFL 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Which will win, spadroon vs transitional rapier?

  • @albireotheredguard1599
    @albireotheredguard1599 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Good Lord did I read that title wrong!

  • @hadeseye2297
    @hadeseye2297 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In Poland rapier was also called spit. Yeah. BBQ time. A long, thin toothpick which you use to "impale" guts of your opponent.
    "Light the fire people." The one you have doesn't resemble rapier to me. It's too thick. ;)

  • @mollofamerika
    @mollofamerika 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Todd's Workshop reproduction when?

  • @MtnManLucas
    @MtnManLucas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    W
    What did the early Spanish Conquistadors carry?

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It depends what you mean by early exactly, but most of them would have had late styles of arming sword (often with finger rings and side rings) and what we now call sideswords.

  • @bencoomer2000
    @bencoomer2000 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The missing link!!!

  • @stephens2241
    @stephens2241 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Question: were "sideswords" really just spadroons before they were cool?

  • @MrTryAnotherOne
    @MrTryAnotherOne 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Munich Town Guard Sword?

    • @edi9892
      @edi9892 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      That's shorter and broader. He has videos on it.

  • @FrancisFjordCupola
    @FrancisFjordCupola 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obviously it's a rapier when it's right-handed or ambi-dextrous. It's a side-sword when it's for left-handed use. Place your internet disclaimer for sarcasm here.

  • @Braindazzled
    @Braindazzled 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm always frustrated with people who obsess about specific naming terminology, as if we're talking about computer hardware or weapon specifics from D&D.

  • @QuentinStephens
    @QuentinStephens 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Are you there as a prospective customer or as a consultant employed by them?

    • @scholagladiatoria
      @scholagladiatoria  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Just a video maker and antique collector

  • @nicholasr82
    @nicholasr82 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How much would that go for?

  • @basp-ef7jx
    @basp-ef7jx 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The blade is too thick to be a rapier. Side sword, absolutely gorgeous.

  • @OndrejSc
    @OndrejSc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ray Pierce

  • @Greenmahn333
    @Greenmahn333 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    👍

  • @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302
    @basilbrushbooshieboosh5302 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Distal taper?? Ohhhhhhhhhh

  • @Cobalt-60
    @Cobalt-60 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Spada da Lato. 😁

  • @H.A.Bleikamp
    @H.A.Bleikamp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Why is the handgrip this short

    • @lalli8152
      @lalli8152 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Lot of the time rapier i think would be used finger over the guard like Matt held it so it doesnt need long grip. Finger over the guard gives more control, and rapier has guard designed to protect the finger or fingers above cross guard

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    +scholagladiatoria *Rapiers were common in the civil world; sideswords were common on the battlefield.*

  • @Thunderfist_McBeefcake
    @Thunderfist_McBeefcake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    Enough of these false rapier allegations

    • @vedymin1
      @vedymin1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Sidesword: i recently transitioned into a rapier, so im a trans-rapier ! Respect my pronouns ! They are stabzee, stabxer ! Check your slasher privilage !

    • @bigsiege1848
      @bigsiege1848 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Statute of limitations is 350 years

    • @Thunderfist_McBeefcake
      @Thunderfist_McBeefcake 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bigsiege1848 tremendous 👌

  • @AlitaGunm99
    @AlitaGunm99 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's clearly a spadroon. /s

  • @elshebactm6769
    @elshebactm6769 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    🗿👍