It's always the unexpected friendships that do it for me in these What-Ifs. Danw and Lightning were such a welcome change of pace and I think my highlight of the entire What-If is Dawn snapping at Lightning. It's not something I would expect to see from Dawn but it still made sense with her character and understandable considering she kept getting dunked on for something she didn't do. Despite this being a project you weren't passionate about, this was another banger.
This is actually so amazing LIKE OMG, the interactions, alliance, LIGHTNING AND DAWN?? You're really good at this man, also hope you're doing good :3 (Dawn saying jo must've miss brick is my favourite IEJSIDHS)
this might be my new favorite what if from you tbh, dawn and lightning are by far my 2 favorites from this cast and i think you used them both so well! i also was not expecting such a wholesome friendship from them but i absolutely adored it, was smiling so hard during the jail part and lightning's elimination. can't express how much i'd love to see this in an official context lol (or tbh just anything more with dawn in an official context). fantastic video!!
glad you enjoyed it! Lightning is a character I always struggle to find stuff for as he's man on his own but their dynamic brought out a side of him I enjoyed exploring (with his dad and his high expectations) while still fitting his egotistic meathead moments lol.
Great what if, it was surprisingly enjoyable. Also, I think Scott is the main antagonist of ROTI because I don't consider Lightning a full fledged villain until maybe the finale and while I do consider Jo a villain she doesn't always work like one and was eliminated slightly before and had a lesser impact on the eliminations than Scott.
Just finished and honestly, I was impressed. I’ve never really liked this What-If, just because it always felt like all the villains would be eliminated, but you actually gave a lot of depth to Jo, Dawn, and Lightning, which I really liked. Seeing some of my faves, Cameron and Jo, get really big plot lines was fun to see, and I’m excited for your next video.
That was a really fun video! The way you used Dawn here is a lot different than what I usually see from her in fan stuff, and I think it's for the best. Very invested in her friendship with Lightning, would never have imagined that for her. Jo was great too, and I really like how you didn't have to make her a fully-fledged antagonist here. Lightning and Cameron didn't have much personal tension in the canon finale, whereas I think Jo and Cameron's respect and caution towards one another's skills makes for a much more satisfying clash. This might be a new fave of mine from you.
I have a fun idea for island. I found out that Noah was going to be the brain of Heather's alliance in the original script. In this scenario Heather wanted someone smart to help with her plans & strategies, but not a very threatening contestant. And Noah would of made it to the merge & exposed his alliance with Heather in the episode "No pain no game" . I feel like this would make an amazing video idea. Please 😊
This is perfect, I always thought it made more sense for Jo to go to the finale against Cameron, as ROTI is the only season to not have a unisex finale. And the theme of Brain vs. Brawn still fits. Jo definitely deserved to get to the finale more than Lightning and the karma Lightning got in the finale when he lost definitely wasn't as deserved since he wasn't really a villain, unlike Jo. Good work, wouldn't expect anything less from you!
it might not be true but I think I heard somewhere that Jo was originally planned to go to the finale with Cameron and even though Lightning has grown on me as a character I will never forgive the show for robbing my girl Jo!
I’d be curious to see something along the lines of “what if Geoff and Bridgette weren’t all over each other at the start of TDA” because it seems like that would change a LOT about the direction of that season
I really enjoyed this What If! It’s really interesting to see Dawn portrayed a bit more negatively by the cast around her than she usually is, which was a really nice subversion since she tends to be coddled by the fans a decent bit! I feel rude for making a suggestion after you worked so hard on this video, but I’ve had this idea in my head and wanted to get it out! For Reboot S2: What if Chris made Priya and Bowie Swap Teams? I always felt it was a wasted opportunity for Chris to not force Priya and Bowie to swap teams after single-handedly picking who they wanted on their teams. I feel like it would cause some interesting drama as Priya would have to navigate working with new people she didn’t personally pick out as well as Ripper, Chase and Scary Girl (arguably her weakest relationships in the prior season)! And as for Bowie? He has to face the fact he didn’t personally pick Emma for the team pick, Millie who he emotionally destroyed in the season prior, and Caleb who he orchestrated the elimination single-handedly! There’s certainly a lot of variables to consider (especially the cheating on Team Skunk Butt) but I think it could be a really interesting one! Hope you have a good day, and awesome work on this video again!
thanks! working Dawn in this context was really fun, I do like her character but I think its hard to stick her out of her comfort zone but having to defend herself put her in a more assertive role that I don't get to play around with much in her. as for your suggestion I actually adore it, its a really creative idea that i've never heard of before! and even though it might not be the most likely thing to happen I could absolutely see Chris doing it to create more drama, its also just such an interesting change for the pre-merge because both teams kinda treat Bowie and Priya like team leaders due to creating the teams and being finalists. (also I didn't really like how the teams were so similar to the ones in the first reboot season so im all for altering them) I don't like making promises to do certain what ifs because my plans are always fluid but this one is going on my list and im gonna try and get to it at some point, again thanks for the great idea! (and don't worry about giving suggestions I always like reading over them to consider and given that yours comes from a smaller season it shouldn't be... TOO bad lol)
@ I’m so glad you really liked my suggestion! That’s made me feel very good so thank you! My main inspiration was that I thought Skunkbutts was just Frogs of Death 2.0 and I really wanted to change that Not to mention Priya does nothing in terms of creating drama on her hand picked team, which I felt Bowie would do a much better job of naturally due to the people on the team It just felt counterintuitive that Priya and Bowie got to feel as comfortable as they were on their teams due to being finalists, so I thought it would be a fun subversion to make the game harder for BOTH finalists as well as create the necessary drama both teams need, especially since Rat Faces were lacking in it big time… I’ll look forward to the video! Thanks for the reply again! You rock!
wow thats quick,used to wait so long, btw are you interested to ever make a continuation to what if Ezikiel wasnt sexist?, not as youre next project, but somewhere next year? I just like that version of Ezikiel and Noah, and I would like to see them explored as well
probably not, that what ifs pretty old at this point and with how much im struggling to do bigger videos that's not an idea that's high on my radar when I do go back to larger what ifs. (never say never though)
Idea for a What If: What If World Tour Only Had Two Teams? I think it would add some interesting dynamics. And as to figure out the teams, Chris placed them based on what position they came on. So I would split Team Amazon in half and place them on a team based on when they arrived. So if my memory serves correctly. Team A would Leshawn, Harold, DJ, Lindsay, Bridgette, Alejandro, Owen and Tyler Team B would have Noah, Sierra, Izzy, Courtney, Gwen, Heather, Cody, and Ezekiel
An idea I have for a what-if is “What if Izzy and Owen didn’t jump out of the plane in Jamaica Me Sweat”. I feel like that episode in World Tour took out Izzy specifically so Noah would lose his voting power on Team Chris and get eliminated in London, so I think it’d be interesting to see how far she makes it if she remained in the game.
What If Recommendation: What if Courtney didn't return in Total Drama Action? Also I love your videos a lot & this one was super entertaining to watch, thanks!
i completely disagree with the "a mine is a terrible place to be" vote, since i can't see dawn voting for the guy she was working with in the challenge over the girl who's been nothing but a massive asshole to her the second she joined.
Brick was a much more interesting character this time around. And the Dawn and Light friendship? Was my favorite part of this, those two are such a fun pair. I loved the verbal fights Dawn had with certain people (Zoey, Jo, Lightning) Even though you said you weren't invested in this one, you still managed to write a really good what if. Makes me wish to see a continuation of this version, but All Stars is a shit season 🥲
I briefly considered a continuation for this in the future and maybe? but probably not considering how many people match the hero title on this season now (really only Jo can be considered and maybe Scott? but he got eliminated so early... but there is Sam so I guess it could work it just doesn't sound the most appealing to me)
My Prediction: 14. Staci 13. Dakota 12. B Prediction Starts Here: 11. Scott 10. Lightning 9. Anne Maria (Quits) (Dakota Returns) 8. Jo Merge 7. Cameron 6./5. Sam & Dakota (Dakota Quits) 4. Mike 3. Zoey 2. Dawn 1. Brick
I won’t lie, I’m will be wishing for “What if Zoey was the antagonist of Revenge Of The Island.” I would like to see her pretend to be kind like Julia but being unhinged when needed.
What if Dawn found the real invincibility statue? Scott: I'll *STEAL IT!* *_NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!_* Seriously, if Dawn _had_ found the Invincibility Statue, it takes _zero_ guesswork to know that Scott is not only going to _find_ it, (most likely in the same garbage bag that he nicked from Dawn before using it to stuff everyone else's things in there) but _steal_ it and replace it with a _fake_ one while he pockets the real one to use on himself later. Dawn's fate would _not_ change.
Like he said at the beginning, Scott doesn't get the shark tooth in this timeline, so he can't _make_ a fake, and we're giving Dawn the benefit of the doubt in this what if, having hidden it from Scoot well enough to use it.
@@ContradictoryKevin Even _if_ he didn't manage to get it, he could _easily_ find something else to whittle a fake statue with. 4-5 challenges would give him _surprisingly_ a lot of options to work with. Also, while _you_ may be giving Dawn the benefit of the doubt, I'm _not._ Need I remind you that Scott could _literally_ just go around _stealing everyone's stuff,_ including some of Sam's video games, something that Sam has to hide from _Chris,_ whenever the hell he wanted. Dawn hiding it would _not_ deter Scott from tearing up the entire camp looking for things to steal from the other campers in the hopes of framing one of his own once he throws the challenge for the Rats. Besides, if Dawn _did_ manage to hide the statue well, ROTI logic would kick in and Scott would find it anyway. Also, I kinda assumed that Scott having Fang's tooth was a constant when it comes to ROTI AUs. What, the animosity between them has to exist _somehow,_ no?
@@NightShadowNS well, here, it doesn’t. Fang does not care because he didn't try to bite anybody, most likely, because that was the rule laid out at the beginning. This is also a what if, so of course TD Wonderer has to manipulate some things in order for it to actually take effect. Does that make sense? Honestly, I'm not trying to start a fight.
we need a continuation to this, I would LOVE to see the dawn and lightning dynamic more explored in all stars
What makes it better is i don't think Lightning goes on the villains
@@kianbakker3691 yes 👍 that sounds awesome
@@awm8414How far do you think this Lighting would get in All Stars? If he's on the heroes team
It's always the unexpected friendships that do it for me in these What-Ifs. Danw and Lightning were such a welcome change of pace and I think my highlight of the entire What-If is Dawn snapping at Lightning. It's not something I would expect to see from Dawn but it still made sense with her character and understandable considering she kept getting dunked on for something she didn't do.
Despite this being a project you weren't passionate about, this was another banger.
I was so invested in them and wanted Dawn and Lightning to reach the finale together 😭😭😭😭😭
This is actually so amazing LIKE OMG, the interactions, alliance, LIGHTNING AND DAWN??
You're really good at this man, also hope you're doing good :3
(Dawn saying jo must've miss brick is my favourite IEJSIDHS)
this might be my new favorite what if from you tbh, dawn and lightning are by far my 2 favorites from this cast and i think you used them both so well! i also was not expecting such a wholesome friendship from them but i absolutely adored it, was smiling so hard during the jail part and lightning's elimination. can't express how much i'd love to see this in an official context lol (or tbh just anything more with dawn in an official context). fantastic video!!
glad you enjoyed it! Lightning is a character I always struggle to find stuff for as he's man on his own but their dynamic brought out a side of him I enjoyed exploring (with his dad and his high expectations) while still fitting his egotistic meathead moments lol.
Great what if, it was surprisingly enjoyable. Also, I think Scott is the main antagonist of ROTI because I don't consider Lightning a full fledged villain until maybe the finale and while I do consider Jo a villain she doesn't always work like one and was eliminated slightly before and had a lesser impact on the eliminations than Scott.
Just finished and honestly, I was impressed. I’ve never really liked this What-If, just because it always felt like all the villains would be eliminated, but you actually gave a lot of depth to Jo, Dawn, and Lightning, which I really liked. Seeing some of my faves, Cameron and Jo, get really big plot lines was fun to see, and I’m excited for your next video.
That was a really fun video! The way you used Dawn here is a lot different than what I usually see from her in fan stuff, and I think it's for the best. Very invested in her friendship with Lightning, would never have imagined that for her. Jo was great too, and I really like how you didn't have to make her a fully-fledged antagonist here. Lightning and Cameron didn't have much personal tension in the canon finale, whereas I think Jo and Cameron's respect and caution towards one another's skills makes for a much more satisfying clash. This might be a new fave of mine from you.
thanks! I loved finally having the chance to give my girl Jo some significant screen time
59:27 that joke would've been wild lmao
I have a fun idea for island.
I found out that Noah was going to be the brain of Heather's alliance in the original script. In this scenario Heather wanted someone smart to help with her plans & strategies, but not a very threatening contestant. And Noah would of made it to the merge & exposed his alliance with Heather in the episode "No pain no game" .
I feel like this would make an amazing video idea. Please 😊
Interesting idea and would be fun for a what-if, also nice profile picture.
@@ClubPuguin Thanks I love this trio
The quality over quantity guy returns! Welcome back, dude
THE BIRD DOES WHAT TO DAWN?????
...uhhhh... game is game?
@@TDWonderer Thats wild lol
I'm so glad to see you move on to a fresh new what if, dude. Love your videos. Keep it up.
thanks, glad I could move onto other stuff too it feels freeing
Dude this was really good and creative it had better dynamics that the og
This is perfect, I always thought it made more sense for Jo to go to the finale against Cameron, as ROTI is the only season to not have a unisex finale. And the theme of Brain vs. Brawn still fits. Jo definitely deserved to get to the finale more than Lightning and the karma Lightning got in the finale when he lost definitely wasn't as deserved since he wasn't really a villain, unlike Jo. Good work, wouldn't expect anything less from you!
it might not be true but I think I heard somewhere that Jo was originally planned to go to the finale with Cameron and even though Lightning has grown on me as a character I will never forgive the show for robbing my girl Jo!
I love your videos man
I'm so glad you came out with another great video!
this is awesome dude i love seeing when you upload when you can hope everything's going well.
Let’s go another video haven’t seen one in forever I am going to 100% watch it once I get home
Dropping everything, TD Wonderer posted 5 minutes ago.
I’d be curious to see something along the lines of “what if Geoff and Bridgette weren’t all over each other at the start of TDA” because it seems like that would change a LOT about the direction of that season
I really enjoyed this What If! It’s really interesting to see Dawn portrayed a bit more negatively by the cast around her than she usually is, which was a really nice subversion since she tends to be coddled by the fans a decent bit!
I feel rude for making a suggestion after you worked so hard on this video, but I’ve had this idea in my head and wanted to get it out!
For Reboot S2: What if Chris made Priya and Bowie Swap Teams?
I always felt it was a wasted opportunity for Chris to not force Priya and Bowie to swap teams after single-handedly picking who they wanted on their teams. I feel like it would cause some interesting drama as Priya would have to navigate working with new people she didn’t personally pick out as well as Ripper, Chase and Scary Girl (arguably her weakest relationships in the prior season)!
And as for Bowie? He has to face the fact he didn’t personally pick Emma for the team pick, Millie who he emotionally destroyed in the season prior, and Caleb who he orchestrated the elimination single-handedly!
There’s certainly a lot of variables to consider (especially the cheating on Team Skunk Butt) but I think it could be a really interesting one!
Hope you have a good day, and awesome work on this video again!
thanks! working Dawn in this context was really fun, I do like her character but I think its hard to stick her out of her comfort zone but having to defend herself put her in a more assertive role that I don't get to play around with much in her. as for your suggestion I actually adore it, its a really creative idea that i've never heard of before! and even though it might not be the most likely thing to happen I could absolutely see Chris doing it to create more drama, its also just such an interesting change for the pre-merge because both teams kinda treat Bowie and Priya like team leaders due to creating the teams and being finalists.
(also I didn't really like how the teams were so similar to the ones in the first reboot season so im all for altering them)
I don't like making promises to do certain what ifs because my plans are always fluid but this one is going on my list and im gonna try and get to it at some point, again thanks for the great idea! (and don't worry about giving suggestions I always like reading over them to consider and given that yours comes from a smaller season it shouldn't be... TOO bad lol)
@ I’m so glad you really liked my suggestion! That’s made me feel very good so thank you!
My main inspiration was that I thought Skunkbutts was just Frogs of Death 2.0 and I really wanted to change that
Not to mention Priya does nothing in terms of creating drama on her hand picked team, which I felt Bowie would do a much better job of naturally due to the people on the team
It just felt counterintuitive that Priya and Bowie got to feel as comfortable as they were on their teams due to being finalists, so I thought it would be a fun subversion to make the game harder for BOTH finalists as well as create the necessary drama both teams need, especially since Rat Faces were lacking in it big time…
I’ll look forward to the video! Thanks for the reply again! You rock!
wow thats quick,used to wait so long, btw are you interested to ever make a continuation to what if Ezikiel wasnt sexist?, not as youre next project, but somewhere next year? I just like that version of Ezikiel and Noah, and I would like to see them explored as well
probably not, that what ifs pretty old at this point and with how much im struggling to do bigger videos that's not an idea that's high on my radar when I do go back to larger what ifs. (never say never though)
Td wonder I missed your what ifs so much!
I always assumed she found the real statue but Scott changed it when he went to dump all the stolen items in her sack
Idea for a What If:
What If World Tour Only Had Two Teams? I think it would add some interesting dynamics. And as to figure out the teams, Chris placed them based on what position they came on. So I would split Team Amazon in half and place them on a team based on when they arrived. So if my memory serves correctly.
Team A would Leshawn, Harold, DJ, Lindsay, Bridgette, Alejandro, Owen and Tyler
Team B would have Noah, Sierra, Izzy, Courtney, Gwen, Heather, Cody, and Ezekiel
Another amazing video!
I finished today I loved it we wanted this for a veeeery long time thnksss
An idea I have for a what-if is “What if Izzy and Owen didn’t jump out of the plane in Jamaica Me Sweat”. I feel like that episode in World Tour took out Izzy specifically so Noah would lose his voting power on Team Chris and get eliminated in London, so I think it’d be interesting to see how far she makes it if she remained in the game.
dawn and lightning dynamic is neat, Good what if 👍
If Dawn found the idol i think things would change
The king returns!!
What If Recommendation: What if Courtney didn't return in Total Drama Action?
Also I love your videos a lot & this one was super entertaining to watch, thanks!
How about TDROTI: What if Scott never had invincibility in The Treasure Island of Dr. McLean.
i completely disagree with the "a mine is a terrible place to be" vote, since i can't see dawn voting for the guy she was working with in the challenge over the girl who's been nothing but a massive asshole to her the second she joined.
1:01:15 "In a 3-2-1 vote"
Six votes? 😭 Did the ghosts of two other players vote, too? 🤪
3 to 1 😭i heard it too
I love this idea!
Finally: Gender Balanced Roti
I can’t stop chipping Dawn and Lightning
36:18 what if Dough i.i. was in revenge of the island
24:46 I thought this was cute for some reason.
THERE'S NO SUBTITLES NOOOOOOOOO
19:34 Lightning does what?
Brick was a much more interesting character this time around. And the Dawn and Light friendship? Was my favorite part of this, those two are such a fun pair.
I loved the verbal fights Dawn had with certain people (Zoey, Jo, Lightning)
Even though you said you weren't invested in this one, you still managed to write a really good what if. Makes me wish to see a continuation of this version, but All Stars is a shit season 🥲
I briefly considered a continuation for this in the future and maybe? but probably not considering how many people match the hero title on this season now (really only Jo can be considered and maybe Scott? but he got eliminated so early... but there is Sam so I guess it could work it just doesn't sound the most appealing to me)
Bro, what if Scott didn’t framed on and framed brick instead?
What if Millie actually read priyas book in season 2
My Prediction:
14. Staci
13. Dakota
12. B
Prediction Starts Here:
11. Scott
10. Lightning
9. Anne Maria (Quits)
(Dakota Returns)
8. Jo
Merge
7. Cameron
6./5. Sam & Dakota (Dakota Quits)
4. Mike
3. Zoey
2. Dawn
1. Brick
Well that was off
@@kianbakker3691 how
REAL
Continuation!
1:03:40 What is this, a verbose explanation of this what if?
I love it
I won’t lie, I’m will be wishing for “What if Zoey was the antagonist of Revenge Of The Island.” I would like to see her pretend to be kind like Julia but being unhinged when needed.
(spoilers for the video)
MY GIRL JO MAKING IT TO THE FINALE 💗💗
Who actually found the real statue
Scott.
Are you going to make a All-Stars please? I can help you with the cast.
What if Dawn found the real invincibility statue?
Scott: I'll *STEAL IT!* *_NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW!_*
Seriously, if Dawn _had_ found the Invincibility Statue, it takes _zero_ guesswork to know that Scott is not only going to _find_ it, (most likely in the same garbage bag that he nicked from Dawn before using it to stuff everyone else's things in there) but _steal_ it and replace it with a _fake_ one while he pockets the real one to use on himself later. Dawn's fate would _not_ change.
Like he said at the beginning, Scott doesn't get the shark tooth in this timeline, so he can't _make_ a fake, and we're giving Dawn the benefit of the doubt in this what if, having hidden it from Scoot well enough to use it.
@@ContradictoryKevin Even _if_ he didn't manage to get it, he could _easily_ find something else to whittle a fake statue with. 4-5 challenges would give him _surprisingly_ a lot of options to work with. Also, while _you_ may be giving Dawn the benefit of the doubt, I'm _not._
Need I remind you that Scott could _literally_ just go around _stealing everyone's stuff,_ including some of Sam's video games, something that Sam has to hide from _Chris,_ whenever the hell he wanted. Dawn hiding it would _not_ deter Scott from tearing up the entire camp looking for things to steal from the other campers in the hopes of framing one of his own once he throws the challenge for the Rats. Besides, if Dawn _did_ manage to hide the statue well, ROTI logic would kick in and Scott would find it anyway.
Also, I kinda assumed that Scott having Fang's tooth was a constant when it comes to ROTI AUs. What, the animosity between them has to exist _somehow,_ no?
@@NightShadowNS well, here, it doesn’t. Fang does not care because he didn't try to bite anybody, most likely, because that was the rule laid out at the beginning. This is also a what if, so of course TD Wonderer has to manipulate some things in order for it to actually take effect. Does that make sense? Honestly, I'm not trying to start a fight.
25:55 A what?!