Arcaea | Tips to PM Null Apophenia

แชร์
ฝัง
  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ม.ค. 2023
  • This is an amazing chart and all... but can we please agree to change this to a 10+. It's quite literally stupid that this chart is more difficult that Halcyon despite being a 10+ in itself, and stupid that this is marked to be just as difficult as Scarlet Lance, which it's not.
    Oh well, it's not like difficulty adjustments haven't happened before, but they're definitely not common...
    ~ Frosty
  • เกม

ความคิดเห็น • 55

  • @Transendium
    @Transendium ปีที่แล้ว +107

    lowiro really is redefining what it means to be a "10.6"

    • @Taokyle
      @Taokyle ปีที่แล้ว +8

      My finger broken here and got a DL when I could BC a damn 10.9
      Thought it was an 11 for 3 sec lol

  • @FrozenHelm
    @FrozenHelm ปีที่แล้ว +8

    1:46 “hit note when reach line” lmaooo why is this so funny to me
    maybe bc it’s small idk

  • @ToasterKoishi
    @ToasterKoishi ปีที่แล้ว +47

    This is great content! Love the analysis and tips of the charts, I don't always agree with your more subjective points about how to play specific patterns, but it's clear you understand the game engine very well and have a good ability to break down the rhythms of particular patterns. Particularly when I was charting the section at 2:02, I also found it useful to first break down the rhythm into tresillos and fillers, then work on using a repeating notable pattern (the zig-arcs) to notate the tresillos and then adding other stuff in between. The rhythm there is very chaotic, so my goal was to point out to players that there is in fact an underlying structure to it, and I'm glad you were able to see that and point it out as well!

    • @ChepFrosty
      @ChepFrosty  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Hey Toaster, thanks for stopping by the channel and I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
      Really appreciate the work you put into the charts, it really shows especially in the part you mentioned and makes my analyses of the charts even more fun to do! Looking forward to seeing even more of your work in the future :)

    • @chakonleung8675
      @chakonleung8675 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hi Toaster,
      Thank you for your comment. Actually, this song is pretty great to practice multi finger ability.
      For example, at 1:25, groups of three notes would come in sky-floor-floor and sky-floor-sky patterns. Herein, the left index and thumb would control the left two lanes, while the right ones control the right. Coordinate the index finger and thumbs to accurately tap the groups of three.

  • @Bedwars4v4
    @Bedwars4v4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    harder than back on track

    • @ZXGearEpic
      @ZXGearEpic ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Gd reference in arcaea wth

    • @Bedwars4v4
      @Bedwars4v4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@ZXGearEpic yes

    • @Aleph_Wthereal
      @Aleph_Wthereal ปีที่แล้ว +1

      real

    • @extrimanil
      @extrimanil ปีที่แล้ว +2

      harder than deadlocked real

    • @Bedwars4v4
      @Bedwars4v4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@extrimanil real

  • @oscarluong6066
    @oscarluong6066 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Looks like the recent difficult charts are having underestimated chart constants :))

  • @renka-chan9213
    @renka-chan9213 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    0:39
    I think this section is basically, for one staff (i think, idk),there are 2 notes, then triplets, quadruplets, quintuplets, 6-tuplets, 7-tuplets, so on untill 12-tuplets lol
    Also, i think it was rated as 10 for the same reasons that Chronostasis is rated as a 8. It feels like a difficulty higher when you play it the first time. However, the more you play, the more it feels like a regular 10.
    Also, I like how you marked 0:50 a 10+, when, even for the first timer, you can recover a bit. (and the crosshanding feels natural anyways)

  • @Jiirachii
    @Jiirachii ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This chart is goated with the sauce

  • @MitsuneMuko
    @MitsuneMuko ปีที่แล้ว +7

    10.6 and 10.7 are two whole different worlds and yet 10.6 is harder than 10.7

  • @HikariLe
    @HikariLe ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I think it’s a solid 10.6. It seems difficult cuz of the weird charting style as they are getting more creative

  • @aviliaa
    @aviliaa ปีที่แล้ว +6

    can you do vicious heroism next :) im having a lot of trouble with it
    great tips videos btw :D

  • @theblueberrypi6152
    @theblueberrypi6152 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Me, a ptt 10:ah yes some good stuff here

  • @dnbjedi
    @dnbjedi ปีที่แล้ว +1

    um... i really cant say how much your videos help me. I think you unlocked the game for me. Thank you. OVERSIZED IPAD CREWWWWWWWWWWWW

  • @okayo_
    @okayo_ ปีที่แล้ว +3

    most of 10+ section is easy if you cheese it, i have more trouble doing the note jump streams

  • @HitzuneWR
    @HitzuneWR ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’ve been waitng for this

    • @ChepFrosty
      @ChepFrosty  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      have you been camping my channel for this video

    • @HitzuneWR
      @HitzuneWR ปีที่แล้ว

      Do u also have tips how to PM grievous lady?

    • @ChepFrosty
      @ChepFrosty  ปีที่แล้ว

      eventually when my fingers break yeah sure

  • @ioinsun
    @ioinsun ปีที่แล้ว

    highlighting 1:02 because there's actually an alternate strat i use there that might help anyone who struggles with the crosshand trills- when you hit the note on the far right, you can slide your right hand onto the hold note in order to free up your left hand to hit the first sky note. i find this way easier than doing it crosshand and want to highlight it because it's not a super obvious strat. obviously the same thing works with the part immediately after as well
    also middle fingering the notes after the 32nd burst is a funny way to do it if you dont care abt accuracy

  • @nathanielendick7808
    @nathanielendick7808 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    3:22 Offtopic but I'm a bit curious why the course mode bar extends slightly to the left after the fragments finish calculating

  • @dnbjedi
    @dnbjedi ปีที่แล้ว

    this chart is.... amazing. It's training and forcing me up to potential 11.

  • @nevermindme3714
    @nevermindme3714 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Isn't it considered a 10.6?
    Not to say it isn't comparable to the 10+s named but it's for sure classified as being harder than Scarlet Lance.

  • @gdtargetvn2418
    @gdtargetvn2418 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Can u do astra walkthrough
    I dont even think it's 9+, the final part of it even looks near 10+

    • @abcdef-ms9mb
      @abcdef-ms9mb ปีที่แล้ว

      it's very misrated yeah I think it's a difficult 10 personally

  • @YC-zq4nm
    @YC-zq4nm ปีที่แล้ว

    Mind if you could do a tutorial on attraqtia?

  • @smaryyyyyyy
    @smaryyyyyyy ปีที่แล้ว

    please do tempestissimo next im dying

  • @sp3edah
    @sp3edah ปีที่แล้ว

    mini: tehe~

  • @_xxmidnight5351
    @_xxmidnight5351 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Five notes over four beats
    Continue previous description
    Tresillo
    Retain tresillo rhythm
    Four notes over two beats
    Five notes over two beats
    Six notes over two beats
    Six notes over two beats
    Eight notes over two beats
    Ten notes over two beats
    *Home free*

  • @TPMaster1
    @TPMaster1 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I really disagree on this deserving a 10+. It might be hard to PM, I can't really comment on that but for me atleast (11.8 PTT) it felt much easier than most 10+s. It is very weird and has a steep learning curve, but once you get it this becomes one of the most enjoyable charts in the game and is probably a 10.5 in my eyes. This was also my first ever 10.6 EX so maybe I'm a bit biased, but compared to seclusion or corps-sans this seems rather easy.

  • @NainCycle586
    @NainCycle586 ปีที่แล้ว

    the last 10+ section is confusing

  • @botanchichiro4098
    @botanchichiro4098 ปีที่แล้ว

    How can ptt 11.14 (me) get atleast A on this 10.6 chart?

    • @botanchichiro4098
      @botanchichiro4098 ปีที่แล้ว

      I can get AA on singularity but on this chart..speechless

    • @A.M-d_isconnected
      @A.M-d_isconnected ปีที่แล้ว

      what's your score on testify or tempest?

    • @botanchichiro4098
      @botanchichiro4098 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@A.M-d_isconnected D for future testify and A for future temp..

  • @Riley26
    @Riley26 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this chart, but I can't alternate for the love of me

  • @plinkogamings
    @plinkogamings ปีที่แล้ว

    This should be 10+ or 10.6

  • @EhmAmATANK
    @EhmAmATANK ปีที่แล้ว

    what do you mean marked to be just as difficult as scarlet lance? this is 10.6 and scarlet lance is 10.1
    anyway I don't think this should be a 10+, for me its around the same difficulty as stuff like free myself and redolent shape.

    • @ChepFrosty
      @ChepFrosty  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      null apo and scarlet lance are both labeled as 10s despite one being significantly more complex than the other, and null apo itself becomes more complex than a handful of 10+s

    • @EhmAmATANK
      @EhmAmATANK ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ChepFrosty Oh I see, yeah the difference in difficulty between the 2 is rather... large. Stuff like that is all over the game, a lot of underrated/overrated charts.

  • @extrimanil
    @extrimanil ปีที่แล้ว

    how is this a 10.6 💀💀💀

  • @Zkr7
    @Zkr7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hmmm

  • @mr.mrowmusic8255
    @mr.mrowmusic8255 ปีที่แล้ว

    I somehow managed a 9970 on this, making it my third best ptt score
    And everyone's saying it's underweighted lmao

  • @mirumizure
    @mirumizure ปีที่แล้ว

    >more difficult that Halcyon
    Okay m8 I disagree on this
    Skill issue on me but I find Halcy way harder than Apophenia

    • @mirumizure
      @mirumizure ปีที่แล้ว

      I guess the chart and track clicked on me better though, so there's that