How long until Baltimore's Key Bridge is replaced? Experts say it may be done sooner than expected
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- Baltimore's Francis Scott Key Bridge and its collapse will continue to hamper supply routes nationwide. Until this week, it was the second-longest continuous truss bridge in the United States.
7News spoke to experts on when commuters could expect a replacement bridge.
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The Ship company and its insurance should pay for the bridge in full. Taxpayers shouldn't have to pay for it twice.
Let's wait until we know where the fault REALLY lies.
No insurance policy is going to cover a $600M bridge.
I think the White House already is already granting 50 million to reconstruction. If it’s from fema or another program like that than that makes sense. But I’m not sure where that’s coming from. (Im all for cutting back on spending) but I think the funds allocated from a specific source (someone please correct me if I’m wrong)
the company will go bankrupt, the insurance will refuse to pay because of criminal negligence of ship company, and commuters will have to use a ferry boat.
@@briangasser973 Well honestly it should and I don't see why not. This is why insurers run off and get secondary backing themselves via big guys like Lloyds of London.
The supply chain can be restored as soon as the pathway is cleared. The construction of new bridge should not affect the supply chain.
@dikoman516 Yes! The port is still there!
Yeah that distinction was handled incredibly poorly in this clip.
But, it will cause hundreds of thousands of extra miles driven creating co2 which will raise sea level and flood Baltimore.
@@paulhare662 laughably small in comparison to the situation in the Red Sea right now. It takes about a million dollars worth of fuel to go the long way vs through the Suez Canal.
The two tunnels available for alternate routing should take some of that traffic rather than going all the way around.
Exactly, clear the debris and ships can move through it. This report is so dumb.
It's not the end of the world. Rebuild a better one. Technology is better now. Wish Baltimore well.
I agree but as a local that was our beautiful bridge.
We just need time.
Technology was better when the new Tampa bay bridge was built. How many decades ago was that?
@@freekfaro5606 Right but this bridge was built before the original Skyway bridge, and after that accident the Key bridge was never updated with better protection. Tampa got a new bridge, and Baltimore did nothing to protect their existing one. I'm sure "cost" was the biggest reason for not doing it but, if they'd of spent a few million in the 80's, they might not have to be paying 100's of millions up to maybe a billion now.
@@ImpendingJoker exactly. And I hear so often, even from Buttigiec: no one could have predicted! You can predict what's going in and out of Baltimore port. Certainly the bean counters at the Port Authority know what's going in and out and can make predictions too, if only because a berth for a cargo or container ship has to be booked in advance.
Same goes for the bridge itself. No one would have predicted the amount, intensity and sort of traffic that's going over the bridge now. But you can count and predict it. I sure hope the bridge, especially the steel parts of it, were regularly inspected not only for corrosion, but also for stress cracks.
@@ImpendingJoker " if they'd of spent a few million in the 80's, they might not have to be paying 100's of millions up to maybe a billion now."
Isn't that the slogan for the United States these days?
*Prediction: Every business -- whether affected by this or not -- will jack up prices and blame it on "supply disruptions".*
Sad but true!
'2 to 3 years' - 'Wow, that's super fast!'.... I'm guessing the people-industries that used that bridge would disagree about that being 'super fast'.
Depends on which end of the whip you are on.
What would be an expectable time to build a bridge that should withstand +30k vehicles a day?
That’s how long it took here in Houston to build our cable ship channel bridge. 2 yrs
For sure, but to be fair if they re-built it in six months to a year it wouldn’t take a freighter to bring it down again.
only 7 days for china.
“You can build a thousand bridges, but if one of them falls down, that’s all they remember you for !” old engineering saying!
Depends on the importance of the ONE that fell...
@@saludanite ….. and whose fault it was!
Building a new bridge is not as important as getting the old collapsed one removed quickly so the port can reopen. Vehicular traffic has alternative routes. The ships don't!
Lotta layoffs at the port & trucking businesses.
@@Skidderoperator hardly any layoffs are expected. The channel and bride remnants will be cleared in three to four weeks. In the meantime most port workers will be moved temporarily to Port Elisabeth and to Norfolk, both of which have excess capacity
@@AnX8765 The dead are sandwiched between fallen roadbed and iron, they say.
They can be rerouted to Virginia,,the port there is clear
@ 1:56 Notice the excellent pier protection around the main piers of the Sunshine Skyway bridge.
Crazy enough, on May 9, 1980, the storm-blinded Summit Venture freighter slammed into the support columns of the old Sunshine Skyway bridge. A 1,200-foot span of the bridge collapsed into the water below.
Sure. But that was installed after a ship hit that bridge and took it down
@@ferdburful6352 Exactly. Unfortunately, lessons weren't learned. Because here we go again with another disaster in Baltimore.
Not just the towers but all ramps are as well!
@@DavidJohnson-tv2nnall the major bridges around me were retrofited years ago. Im guessing this was a budget issue that the corrupt politicians didn't want to fund.
I am a Bridge Builder/ Engineer and from what I have seen there is no solid abutment and reinforced wall structure which might have saved the collapse of the bridge
The thin pillar arrangement offers little resistance against lateral movement causing the collapse
50 years old. Better standards today
Nobody passed legislation to help the people affected by chemicals from train derailment in Ohio
Fed ignored. If dont help one dont help other.
We built a new 2.1 mile cable stay bridge in Montreal. It was finished in 2019, took 4 years and cost $400 million.
Quebec probably has a Unionized Workforce. 😮
Don't be surprised when the bridge that is rebuilt is no longer named the Francis Scott Key Bridge.
Not unless Francis Scott Key was an African American lesbian.
It's gonna name after a demcrap politician with all the boxes checked...
EXACTLY!!
Kind of a bad omen tbh. Like naming your new ship the Titanic.
@@jackm6593 Not really. The U.S. Navy renamed the second aircraft carrier the USS Hornet after the first one was sunk by the Japanese. Won several battle stars and is tied up in Alameda, CA.
.. it was only servicing 35,000 vehicles a day so a low priority to replace IMO ...!
I agree. A cable stay with pier protection is a good replacement.
Vancouver just replaced their port Mann bridge, similar arch design from 1965 with a new cable stayed bridge, part of the trans Canada hwy. Along with the Alex Frasier and Golden Ears as cable stayed bridges
Immersed tunnel more better.
@@limwiching2277
What about tanker trucks and hazardous materials ?
Those are not allowed in tunnels.
5 years of planning, 5 more years of construction, and 100% over budget. Job will be well done.
Biden can call Xi. A new bridge will be Made in China and shipped to Baltimore in 12 months. 😀😂
Oh oh, dont forget kickbacks.
You forget about the 5 years to remove the bridge debris.
Don't get too excited, it just took 2 years to repaint the Sky Way cables here in Tampa.
and the tampa bridge over 3 times biger and none union labor,= red state Maryland a lot smaller bridge union labor blue state 4 years
@@dknowles60 union iron strong
my guess is at least 5 years
4 years 7 months 23 days.
The Ambassador Bridge, a suspension bridge which spans the Detroit River and connects Michigan to Canada, was constructed in 2 years, from 1927 through 1929. The Gordie Howe Bridge, a cable stay bridge, which also spans the Detroit River, is under construction and near completion.
There are TH-cam videos of the Gordie Howe construction progress.
Are you saying the Howe Bridge under construction and near completion was started in 1929. Wow that is fast to put up a bridge
I live by the Skyway Bridge in St. Pete, it took forever. The new bridge took five years to build, was 19 months late and ran $20 million over budget when it opened in 1987.
A stay cable bridge should be the most reasonable option. Faster construction, more span length. The biggest key should be how long the budgeting and designing take. Sunshine Skyway Bridge took 3 years until construction start and another 4 years for construction.
NO ONE EVER USED THE WORDS.....SAFETY....THAT'S THE KEY FOR THE "KEY" BRIDGE!
Why does it even need to be said?
A dollar to a donut says the pliers I ordered on Amazon are in one of those shipping containers!! Great!
@@AnX8765 Surely you know I jest! Just said to make a point! This insane catastrophe will no doubt cost all of us, big time!!!
That is very possible it can be done in 2 years with a new bridge and it being designed like the one in Tampa. Although the bridge collapse in Minneapolis was under different circumstances, that took them 2 years to replace the one they have now so it is possible that it could be done in that amount of time.
You must be smoking weed. It 7 years to design and build a new bridge over Tampa Bay.
@@WesB1972 I don’t smoke, never have and never will so terrible assumption right there. If the design is closer to that one then I would say 3-4 years. There have been too many advances in technology since then for this new Francis Scott Key Bridge to take anything more than 5 years to get done. The design after the cleanup will really determine how long it takes for a new bridge to come up.
My guess is that they’ll have the port open for cargo ships in no more than two months. I think it’ll take at least five years to build a new bridge.
I predict it will be open in June.
I’d prefer a more structurally sound and future proof bridge over a quickly constructed one.
I don't know Baltimore but maybe they should move the port? A hundred years ago, ships came right into wharves in what is now the central business district of Brisbane (Queensland, Australia). I guess as ships got bigger, they moved the docks further out, closer to Moreton Bay and the Pacific Ocean. Big cruise liners now dock at Hamilton (after coming under the Gateway bridges) and a massive new port has been built (mostly on reclaimed land) for cargo out near the river mouth. Thus cargo ships don't go under any bridges coming into the Port of Brisbane.
They built a new bridge in Australia in 6 months.
The new bridge should be a suspension bridge like the Golden Gate or Mackinac Bridge. A cable stay still has the same defect as the old bridge; two concrete columns that can be knocked down. A suspension bridge's towers can be spaced far apart and leave plenty of extra room for ship traffic.
A suspension bridge's towers can still be hit and destroyed by a huge ship.
if you want top quality in half the time and cost, call china. no one does bridges like cn.
AHAHAHAHAH! Nice joke, what's next? Hire China to build apartments out of soda cans and glass bottles? X-D
I hope they add two more lanes in each direction to accommodate future traffic loads.
After the cleanup, probably about 6 to 8 weeks....
It doesn't need more than 4 lanes, AADT has been flat at about 31,000 since 2006.
The latest bridges over major shipping channels are in the 215 foot vertical clearance range. That is 30 feet more the FSKB. A bridge like that would about 2 miles long to meet that profile, and with shallower grades maybe 2.2 or 2.4 miles.
Costwise a 4-lane tunnel would be likely less than such a bridge. Tunnel approaches and causeways were built in the early 1970s. They would need to build a 6,200 foot long tunnel and open approaches.
My solution would be a tunnel as on the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel and the Hampton Roads Bridge-Tunnel and I-664 Bridge-Tunnel.
No bridge over the shipping channel.
3 years is a pipe dream. 1 year for design, engineering and test boring for new piers and dolphins (during which the old span can be completely removed; at least 6 months to get contracts in place and arrange for all of the lift (cranes) needed to build; another year for materials sourcing, initial fabrication plus locating and fitting out all of the required staging locations, and; 2 to 3 years for construction. 5 years would be a pretty realistic schedule. Keep in mind there are still other considerations: Can they use the existing approach spans and piers, considering they are now close to 50 years old? Or do you have to build new from shoreline to shoreline? If that is the case, you are talking about a total of about 8500 feet of new bridge construction plus possibly re-alignment of I-695 at either end. There a quite a few complicated decisions that need to be made very quickly, the first being who is going to be the lead agency in charge. So all things considered, my money is on 5 years.
Thank god to the good old American union...
Hopefully the reconstruction will be done properly. When things are rushed, quality suffers.
This is definitely a site for a cable stay bridge, but 2 years would be a miracle. The government is involved. 5 years absolute minimum, probably closer to 10.
💯💯👍👍
No way they are going to let it drag on for 10 years
You can do things surprisingly fast when you have the money to do it.
And you credentials are for making such sweeping statements???
@kingy002 I actually do. And the fastest concept to completion balance cantilever construction method I've ever seen was about 10 years. In this case, being an election year, Biden will probably announce funding in the next few weeks. But it won't actually exist, and there will be years of consulting along with demolition of existing parts before anyone starts even tendering out. Ideally a design-build contractor to speed it up a little. But more likely a P3 because the funding will flop after the election and the government will have to get another toll bridge built.
That's interesting. Paul W. Smith had a guest on his show today that said the auto industry WOULDN'T be affected by this.
Who is correct?
@billymacktexasdetective5827 The bridge is gone so vehicular traffic is affected. They'll have to find new routes. But the port is still there. Once they clear the debris the ships can come through again.
So what your saying is we can build a super structured bridge faster than we can add 2 lanes of highway for 10 miles.I will believe it when I see it,or is it a case of milking the clock for regular road improvements.
Not niw a days. All the metal comes from china
Trucks that carry loads not allowed in tunnels can still take the west side of the beltway? --- I'd think that once the debris is cleared and the port reopened, things could return to pretty close to normal
Except for the traffic here, it's a nightmare now. I leave much earlier to go in and come home.
It took 7 years to design and build a new bridge over Tampa bay in the early 1980s.
Some have mentioned the skyway bridge near Tampa. I believe this was hit and collapsed in 1980 killing 35.
W Polsce ekspertyzy urzędnicze, środowiskowe, konsultacje społeczne, audyty trwałyby 15 lat, a na koniec ogłoszono by przetarg publiczny "zaprojektuj i wybuduj" z terminem realizacji 12 miesięcy wraz z pozwoleniem na użytkowanie. A! I oczywiście w przetargu mieliby 1/3 potrzebnych pieniędzy.
This is What build back better looks like!
The cost of new replacing FSK bridge is set in the range of $1B USD, according to Loretta Warter, spokesperson of the Institute of the Insurance Media. Bruce Carnegie Brown, Chair of the Lloyd's, said that he would be surprised if the whole incident would cost less than few billions of dollars. Analyst Brenden Holmes of Moody said that there are about 80 diff insurance companies cover $3B USD for the owner of Dali while Barclay's analysts believe that the final number would be in $3B USD.
However, the Dali owner, Grace Ocean Private of Singapore, may be spared someway on the heavy cost due to the limited liability of the 1851 international law which says, the ocean merchant ship owner legal liability is limited on the value of the ship including the merchandises carrying onboard.
You are off a few digits, I will be amazed if construction costs less than $3 Billion
Yeah, remember the BIG D1CK in Boston...@@bob80q
2-3 years is very optimistic I see it more like two billion with the cost over-runs taking one year for engineering and fabrication and permits with the project running 3-5 years.
Optimistic for sure, 3-4 Billion is more realistic
The next closest thing we’ve had as far as a major bridge collapse is the one from Minneapolis in 2007. Now granted it was nothing like this one in Baltimore in terms of circumstances, length, etc but I do think that is something to keep in mind on how anything is possible. I know there would be much more to build as far as this replacement versus the one there but that took them 2 years as well so it could be a possibility at least.
@@lakerskid2013 you obviously forgot the Sunshine Skyway
@@bob80q I’m talking about as far as anything recent but I do know about that one too. They’re going to have to build the replacement similar to that one
The Skyway bridge isn't in Tampa.
its going to take months to clear the wreckage
Those pieces thousands of tons and you both cranes and barges able handle such mass
Then consider that port is active so trying to build while still allow ships to free move is another challenge in itself
So its going to be a while
the one that goot knock down in Tapma Fl 3 times longer 3 times heaver apx 1 month, tampa also has port traffic
you all talk like you know something actually you don't ahahahaa
The ruined bridge will be in china in a month. Bet.
@@Skidderoperator Nah, it will be in India. Only India takes in scrap metal.
Remember when we had plenty of steel mills in the U S ?
I can get a combination pizza in 15 minutes. Don't you just have a extra bridge laying around that nobody wants.
Maybe some cold beer.
Isn't there enough steel in the key bridge to rebuild the key bridge? If not, why not? What will happen to all that steel?
An opportunity to make a positive from a negative.
If the decision is to replace then a much more efficient structure could be utilized.
The cleaning of the harbor water traffic lanes can be given top priority.
Reroute planning must be instituted in interim period.
Quality bridges by nature take a significant time frame from planning to fruition period.
No construction techniques or materials are left out of consideration in planning phases.
I’m sure a successful bridge builder could design a project suitable for the geologic requirements of the Patapsco River Harbor.
Should a new Key Bridge be constructed ribbon cutting event certainly would be a very proud day for Baltimore and indeed all of the United States 🇺🇸 of America.
Should not take more than 6 months with China speed to replace the bridge
It'll be very interesting to see how quickly a bridge like this can be replaced if the industry applies maximum effort.
Unions applying maximum effort of builking the taxpayers.
@@rectorkirk1158 I'm certainly no fan of unions either. They suck. There was a time when they existed to keep employees from being exploited by the companies, but today it's gone way too far and unions exist to screw the companies and give the workers no incentive to EARN their paychecks.
While the world is distracted watching this....what is slipping under the radar elsewhere?
Everything is a distraction. Like shit happens. All the time. Like seek help. U need it
Trump😂
Your not wrong man
It looks as though MOST of the steel for the bridge could be reclaimed??
The US is an industrial pipsqueak today. The fact that it would take 3 years to build a simple bridge like this is evidence of the fact. 🙄
This reporter clearly doesn't have a daily commute from one side to the other.
They're excited about the speed of it. It's gonna be years no matter what. Do you think the gov't will set up ferries there?
Why do they keep saying that the Key bridge collapsed. It didn't collapse. It was knocked down by a large boat. sheesh.
A large boat would be a 30 footer. It was a massive container ship.
Exactly it collapsed the whole bridge
It's BROKE !
Maybe put some of those dolphins out there for protection
This is an underrated comment. After the collapse of the sunshine bridge the new bridge was given pylon collision protection in the form of cement dolphins and beach induction. I am not sure why the key bridge (and for that matter all bridges) was not retrofitted with this after the sunshine collapse. This was especially relevant given how that channel to and from Baltimore was so narrow. Honestly, if we fail to learn from accidents, we are doomed to repeat them. Pilots say that every item on their flight check lists are written in blood. This is also true about how our infrastructure contributes to disaster.
key bridge didn't have dolphins because it was already too limited in space. this is what ive found
I don't know about dolphins. Maybe whales. They're bigger.
@@turkN9NE
Didnt know that..they will have to think if something else or this will repeat
@@turkN9NEDolphins can clearly be seen at the Key Bridge at 1:10.
I was waiting for all the hype about people having trouble getting goods. Another gimmick to raise prices even more. Clear the existing bridge and water way is open again. All ports are back to normal. So stop the bull shit.
Won't take no time at all,as long you send some Union workers that are Skilled in bridge construction!
Yes, skilled workers from Central America.
@@frankblangeard8865 they only work at nite
And the fact that cargo ships have multiple failsafes incase of power loss. To help steer and a generator to maintain some electrical.
It’ll take 5-10yrs
Get those guys from Philly who fixed I 95 after the collapse in a week
Interstates and bridges are two completely different projects, get a clue
Was the Mothman near it?
The entire now and expanding distribution warehouse infrastructure on the old Beth steel peninsula and the now stressed travel time studies
I'd think that the harbourmasters staff will have already been on the phone to find the biggest crane barges on the East Coast and across the Atlantic in UK and further.
Only a couple of years? Super neato!
It took 5 years to build the bridge
Everything never happens by accident, surely there are so many precedent negligence on the part of MV Dali vessel and technical organisation as a whole...
Definitely 3 years aggressively to rebuild! But it’s a global necessity.
People are STILL MISSING! That’s more important!
5 years from now it still will not be done...
2 to 3 years 😂...
Hey, doesn't the former president know something about building a bridge???
It should have redundancy on the cable system such as Dames Moore in Jax Fl will be better, although uglier
As somone who used that bridge twice a day for the last 3 years and thousands of times in my life. I don't think they should go rushing into building a new bridge.Although I do think they will get It done fast. 5 years seems realistic. I don't think they will let it drag on to 7-10 years. 30k cars doesn't sound like much but for Baltimore it is. During the day that bridge was bumper to bumper cars and trucks going 65 mph . If this happened during the day a hundred or more people would have been dead missing or injured. They do need to focus on clearing the shipping channel, and removing all the debris and finding the two missing people. I thin it was a good cal lto not wait around to much and putting divers at risk. I don't want to say i knew this was going to happen but i always knew it was a reality and thought of it offen going over it and the bay bridges i also have to go over every day. I liked the key bridge man. it was a nice route away from the city and was one of the highlites of my drive. I liked it better than the bay bridges which are constantly filled wth traffic. You could sometimes get a moment of peace up there in the otherwise very stressful cumte plain. The 895 tunnel is not really in the best shape either,and they never removed the toll lanes so its going to get quite backed up. the first few days were not so bad,even with heavy rain but we will see.I may get a new job
"especially if the feds are in charge"
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA oh god he's serious
That’s what we have in Houston at our Port. Cables!!
How hell do we know how long it will take don't worry about it
Black swan
They are stuupid to not be using TUG BOATS.
In another video they disengaged as the ship picked up speed. If they stayed any longer at that pace, chances are they could have been dragged by the ship itself.
check facts first,write nonsense later
buying local solves everything - keeps the waters cleaner too I'd imagine
I can tell you exactly how long it takes. Until it's finished.
Dali, same as the artist Savador Dali who painted THE BROKEN BRIDGE...which is a painting of a bridge with half snapped off
Tunnel ?
The original bridge cost $1.9B by today's money Im curious what the new bridge will cost.
original bridge was budgeted 60 million and ultimately cost $110 million. That is about $500 million in today's dollars, not $1.9B. given steel has risen more than inflation and new building code, environmental regs tetc, you are looking at an estimated $900 ,million
Find out who had it destroyed
Is very fast
New tecnologies
More rhan a billion $ question is the fact the cause of the Crash may never come out lest Insurance/Compensation be denied for the Pilots/officals erranous actions when faced with an emergency situation,
If they start with 180 days time line , they can rebuild broken span in 8 months . China has the expertise and is well equipped seeing its track record.
You need to get off that ecstasy dude
The Skyway bridge in Forida(St Petersburg/Brandon not Tampa )
I think this Reporter was talking the entire Tampa Bay region where the replacement bridge is currently located. Just like the new Tappan Zee/Late NY Governor Mario Cuomo is located just outside of NYC.
Protection systems, like dolphins, should be installed around EXISTING BRIDGES on Chesapeake Bay and in places like Patapsco River in Baltimore.
Also new Key Bridge should have these protections.
Protection systems should be build exceeding today standards. Ships are getting bigger and bigger.
The city of Baltimore needs to go after the company of the ship that ran into their bridge. They should pay for all damages that they had done to this bridge. It shouldn’t come from our government or the people it should come from Singapore
Insurance will probably pay for most of it.
took the 6 years to build cable bridge in boston and that is 60% the size of that bridge. The unions will milk it for every dime they can tons of cost overruns trust me it will take more like 6-8 years
They were in no rush to do it because the rest of the highway wasn't complete.
They gonna ask advise from the Union members who rebuild NYS Tappan Zee bridge...
Suspended bridges are all the rage now and a lot of steel can be recuperated from the river let,s use the old one, melt it again and re-used it all! Such a pelasure to re-use old steel.
All the steel will come from China, like the SF-Oakland Bay Bridge.
Just a couple years...
take a couple of years ??? really that long.
Not as fast as it took you to take it down
5 seconds!!!
They should get the Amish to build it.. they could do it in 1 day
@Mr58hawkeye Did you hear that the Amish offered to build the southern border wall? I saw a video recently and he said they were willing to come from all over the country and could get it done in no time.
China: we are not interested
I need coal for my bar-b-que and what about car parts there hard enough as ut is to get them...
Would ya not put a tunnel through.. ffs