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SMIT TAK - Salvage of the tanker Sea Empress
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 8 มี.ค. 2018
- Another golden oldie from the past that had a huge impact on the world the environment and the regulations, sorry about the video quality
This case is another proof that when disaster strucks, every related authority gives priority to money and the environment is always the last to concern about. So, environmentalism is a hype in the world of capital.
This is kind of a more important vid than some of the ones that the salvors make; in that it shows the truly complicated and awful nature of marine accident recovery and ship salvage. All such operations out of calm, stable waters are never the calm, assured processes the salvors record them to be in hindsight; but blizzards of complex maneuvering on the parts of all parties involved. This helps to remind us of that.
the UK parliament. Just like any politician, they always protect themselves, even in USA. SMIT TAK is one of the best salvers in the world
You are right on the money there.
@Dragomir Ronilac Well that second line makes me think you are biased somehow...
No, obviously anyone can make a mistake and things will go wrong at some point. After all, it already is an accident. Things have already gone wrong, thats why they call their help. And considering circumstances, it might not be succesfull. There could be a rogue wave, but that sort of incident you cannot work with.
Seems to me this is not Smit ffing up, but a whole lot of things; starting with who leads the operation. And since it is not mentioned, im pretty sure the Brits were trying to get the best outcome, for the lowest possible amount of money. Which means the salvage company will not quickly divide the cake by calling in outside help, bc that might mean they actually lose money. Isnt it odd that you dont hear a word about this?
@@StofStuiver I agree by the looks of this documentary there is a whole lot of parties at play in this situation but at the end of the day as the world renowned experts smit tak should have done better in my opinion and if that means telling the various government people involved whats up then so be it. But things will always be difficult when you don't have 1 person clearly in charge.
Big money owns government. It's the natural state of things, sad as it is.
Especially in the USA. Those bought of retards set the prime example for the rest of the west.
Commander Bywater proved that the UK had neither command, control, or expertise in pollution control. Typical British bureaucrat!
The government really dropped the ball on not accepting help from other countries.
"Where is the remaining 90% of the oil?"
"Some will be under the water... quite a lot is on the land, the beaches. Fair bit on the birds, and up in the waterways. All over the place really."
That guys a damn total idiot.
i was ther when that happend and the bad thing to no Sea Empress is still working at sea but thay had change the name of the Sea Empress
Second oil spill investigated
In 2010, she was converted in Shanghai into a bulk carrier, and re-flagged as the Panamanian registered MV Welwind. In
On the way to
the yard the ship developed a crack in one side of its engine room
following a collision with a sunken ship, Hang Ro Bong, when she was
attempting to anchor at the B (Bravo) anchorage of the port. Rice-laden Hang Ro Bong had capsized in the Bay in a collision with another ship on April 6, 2011. Following
allegations of another oil spillage from the former Sea Empress vessel,
a team led by the CPA Deputy Conservator Captain Najmul Alam on CPA
salvage vessel Kandari-10, visited the spot. 2012, she was renamed for a fifth time: MV Wind 3 and on June 3 that
year the 274-metre long vessel was brought to Chittagong in Bangladesh
for dismantling at the Shitakunda ship breaking yard.
GREAT INFO !
I blame the UK government, I'm sure Smit and the Chinese Tug could of sorted this, but UK Government wanted it done cheap
You obviously didn't look as Smit Tak did the job
@@charleswalker4126 ok
@@charleswalker4126 you might want to look at smits record think you will be proven wrong it was govt not smit that fucked it
I think smit have enough track record rhat they where not fully responsible for this
You’re all misspeaking I think.
Smit had nothing to do with the grounding or the oil spill.
What Rob is saying is that early on- Smit and the Chinese tug that was there could have avoided the spill had the government not given them a red light.
Even today after those mega marine accidents the Tory government still cuts resources like MRCC stations, strategic salvage tugs & Pollution skimmer vessels. Most of Western European refinery ports offer helicopter services for pilot operations to mitigate problems boarding in heavy weather but not the UK.Just kick that can down the road like always.
They took away the heavy salvage tug from Folkestone over 5 years ago. Nearest is now on the other side of that silly Brexit border.
fuck all to do with the tory gov't its the civil servants who caused this.
Having a shipping lane thru jagged rocks is the first mistake. Especially for oil tankers. Only a matter of time before human error or mother nature pushes a ship on to them.
Remember trying to walk through tenby town centre, slippery as hell because all the oil from the beach was dragged through the streets and the smell of oil was suffocating. All of Pembrokeshire coast was ruined.
could have been worse
Isn't it just absolutely AMAZING how bungling bureaucrats can screw up even the simplest of events? SOMEBODY should have been given the axe and even jail time for this disaster. Several opportunities to save her and prevent any more environmental damage were literally thrown away by incompetency! Talk about the proverbial circle jerk! How could a country with such a long maritime history have screwed this accident up so badly?
I was on the cleanup crew for this. It was a sad, sad time.
Smit couldn’t handle it with what they had but they wanted the job.
Smit could've handled it no problem, if they'd been given all access without government interfering and involving the Chinese tug... but frankly, the ball had been dropped by the pilots before Smit got involved, and it just stacked problem onto problem from then on... Smit Salvage is world-renowned for their success if and when they're given a free hand to actually do their work... the moment other agencies start interfering it all goes to heck...
Lack of tugs, failed port radar, mountain peaks in a major port. What could possibly go wrong in this scenario?
unbelievable, just unbelievable. the services of two powerful tug boats that were in three area / on site, were rejected
And you have no idea why, just because there is a boat that is there does not mean it is the right one nor, that it has the right kind of crew.
@@saffynl in that situation any boat is better than no boat
@@benmac940 Eggactly.
Lol that guy at the end was jiggling so much
I watch a lot of these marine rescue stories and this is the first one that had such political content. By some analysis of the happenings it now seems appropriate to have included it.
this a Panorama TV program from the BBC
I love Dutch English accent.
Proud to sound like this😅
One could get strangled by all the finger pointing.
I love the 20/20 eye sight afterwards. It sad to see things go bad like this but trying to save money is not worth it.
Yes,and it should not be at the cost of marine life,wildlife,oceans,coastlines and lively hoods.
You cannot put a price on that.
This is a disaster that never should have happened.
B4,during,after this disaster is severe communication and power tripping going on.
All at the coast of marine and wildlife.
Pathetic humans,we are.
What is literally just so disgracefully Obvious is that anyone in that industry would allow a single hull tanker to be utilized anywhere near these violent sea coast's is criminally insane these accident's continue today and that fact that they do tell's me they obviously do NOT CARE ..If your a Tanker Captain your company's mandate's should be your weather is below the minimum needed for you to safely pull into port If you bypass that Mandate and anything happen's the Captain should be criminally charged period the fact the British people continue to allow this to take place is just Horrible ..
Dangerous place to be coming and going alright !! Makes Zero Sense
This accident has been 22 years ago since you commented. Since then, the world and the British people have learnt from their mistakes. No single hull tankers exist anymore today. So much more safety and regulations are in place all over the world. All fuel and oil tanks need to be double hulled too nowadays.
You are judging and criminalizing the actions of people 22 years later...just..please keep in mind that these people do not have your ability of hindsight and learning from their mistakes...
Governments make their own rules. Governments often procrastinate or react to events after the fact.
Ive noticed all around the worlds "democracys" politicians do or dont, buy or dont buy, with the stated position of it being what the public desires & in the publics interests yet they never actually ask the people what their true interests are & when you dig a little deeper we find contracts or actions or inactions actually benefit a specific groups interests or several groups interests rather than the public in general. People aren't stupid & understand the need for industry or resources, we also want the risks mitigated intelligently & effectively. This means we dont want useless, flashy & unnecessary equipment bought & nor do we want too little equipment onsite for realistic risks. For what people are paid & the benefits they receive its much more simple than how I've had to write & describe the process. It also requires honesty & accountability though & without it we'll always be paying more than we need both financially & enviromentally. Accountability & honesty.
government bureaucrats at their finest. It boggles my mind that people are constantly asking the government to take on more aspects of our lives
That's right, we never have a government in the true sense because the political system we have doesn't put people of real ability and who really care in power. I don't know how this can be done, so far as I know it isn't in any country in the world apart from possibly New Zealand. What I do know is that at November 2020 the world is heading fairly rapidly for the waterfall. What really distresses me is that we will take so many other species with us if we go over
That Chinese tug looked like it would contribute more to the disaster than help what a rust bucket
Yup, looked suspiciously like a frigate not a tug boat anyway.
That guy talking about the wave action will break up the oil sounds like he should get his sea food from that spot only.
Should be made take a shower with the water from that area only too !
As ever it's not truth or common sense that matters, it's the skins of "top dogs". This is as true in 2020 as it ever was. We are "governed" by self serving career politicians, not by the truly able
The actions of the salvers and the government both were totally disgraceful. All they clearly cared about was protecting themselves and their pocketbooks.
The salvers have a much finer line in regards of economic & legal survival than a Government does but I understand what you say.
so the hired smit tak to do the salvage but didn´t let them do what they do best....
precisely.
The Old Commander Says " No Thanks We have Our Own Oil Recovery System" He's Old School Brit Alright ! Wait till that Bloody Mess washes ashore and its ' SHOVELS & BUCKETS TIME' !! PUT SOME OF THE LOCALS TO WORK !! LOLOL CLASSIC DONT YOU THINK ??
The usual outcome when politicians are allowed to take charge. Let the experts do their job. The politicians job is to make sure they have all of the resources they need then get out of the way.
Quite right. Politicians are not the most capable and sensible people in society. What they are best at is deflecting blame from themselves. In times of real crisis we just need them out of the way
WOW!...this all could have been avoided..if not for English pride..
Yeah ! That's What I said !
Simple. Who in the government said no, and then made tons of money doing the clean up! That is the person whom you can place blame on!
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Lord Goshen is incompetent.
Blame the harbour master for declining the tug out in the first place. Listen to experienced pilots in the first place...
15:02 when you realise taking ket before a tv broadcast was a bad idea.
So many negative comments on here make this look like it happened just a couple of weeks ago! This happened over 20 years ago and a lot has changed since then!
33:51 bureaucracy at it’s finest! It is no wonder why so many are dead against the shipping of oil in the west coast of British Columbia...
I agree the man was a complete dick, of course he had a very nice title, just shows what a load of crap these people talk.
Do you have the full panorama documentary?
How many fuel bladders did the Brittish Army and Navy have unused at the time this happened? How many barges were empty? 4 days with a garden hose would have made a difference.
the uk govt fuked this up remember that smit takk best in the world
I love the cheef part :D
I am going to tell everyone watching this today what really was the problem why did they refuse help the British government did not want to PAY MONEY 💵 !!
The Chinese chef could have headed up this salvage better!
Unbelievable , , , Everybody at work loves jabbering on the walkie talkies. I hate them.
written by someone who has no clue about anything
@@saffynl So true ...everyone can tell how the job gets done better ..But are not there to do the job..If a big tug started at the start and opened up the tanker on a rock ....They be telling you should have waited ..Removing fuel should be the first option ...Not tearing a ship open
Wow how much experience did "Lord" Goschen have? Dude looks like a couple years out of grad school 😂
Unbelievable how inept that whole operation was. 7. Days and still puking oil. No pumping off. No booms until it was too late. Harbor master should have let her be towed out to sea early on
It's the Harbor Masters fault then...Top of the List at the Least.
Thats leaderships fault, which is, in this situation i believe the Brit gov.
They called Smit, probably tied their hands on cost/payment AND set up a situation where Smit had to deal with a situation with 3 leaders for the actual salvage.
and then they have the nerve to complain afterwards.
If you hire experts, let the experts do the job.
the Dutch salvors are the finest in the world...!!
Looks like it might be so ! I like that Sea Crystal Oil Recovery Ship. Suck up the oil, filter it and pump out clean water.
seems along time ago worked on the cleanup i was 17 they didnt want the help the cargo was worth more lost.
I believe you.
That mans teeth freak the hell out of me
Freaky ugly man looks like a zombie
There tends to be a natural resistance for anyone Not UK to come in and solve a problem. The UK has contracts and agreements among themselves. Sorry, but it seems to be all about whose territories are whose.
Why am i reminded of another desaster that started in 2016?
From Suez to the Sea Empress.
What a complete balls up. No clear plan of action and classic suits in an office THINKING that they know their shit, ignoring people on the ground with REAL experience. The accident was set in motion by the grounding, the environmental disaster was set in motion by bureaucratic suits lacking the skills to make an educated decision and foresight.
One thing never changes in this country..... institutional incompetence.
So what happened?
Well, the front fell off...
this is all "could have, should have, would have" but when you are the man on the ground, and you have to make the desission about how to handle it, it is a hard job!. afterwards saying blah! blah! blah!!, is easy!!!...
Why are they blaming the salvage company, the harbor master, and the captain of the ship
Brits always wanna inquire, but the inquiry done by the group being investigated, leads to favoritism, like always. Just like they farm out all responsibility to the next guy, who then passes it on to the next because they know the inquiry will lead to an insider hand job, full release on the people, a large bill that pays them anyways, no interruption of "tea bag time", and 0 responsibility taken. Way to "flip the world the greasy bird" Brits. Cheerios.
Same issue here as with a lot of other disasters. Just look at the Kurs incident.
why was it a single hull when its required in the 80s is required double hulled.
Two questions: if you need a translator for a marine operation, why wouldn't you go to the Royal Navy instead of the local Chinese restaurant? ... and why wouldn't the coast guard people be running a continuous recording of the radio channel(s) being used as soon as a disaster was declared? There's no excuse for this to be a he said/she said issue.
we have a capacity of 5000 cubi
total balls up help was on hand many times over
British can screw up a wet dream.
The Norwegians have got it going on !! Brits were to Egotistical to accept their help I guess !
That’s the impression I got from this. Just too embarrassed and pig headed to accept help. As for those MP’s just saying “ we will have an inquiry “ . What a joke. They just hope they’ll be chairman and get another pocket full of cash, and probably a knighthood.
Ship groundings, like all serious business should not include the government. They are so concerned with self political preservation they don't take necessary action, in which, expense cannot be a consideration.
great
Such a very British disaster.
achteraf praten is natuurlijk makkelijk net als oordelen
talking and judging afterwards is easy and cheap so I leave it with this
He said practiable
They should of had the Queen go out there and do this job. She could have done a better job
But they didnt. Its a Brit fekup, no one elses. At any time the brits could have called Smit off. They didnt. And they probably didnt want to pay the overhead cost of getting that ship in.
THIS IS ALL INTENTIONAL. OPEN YOUR FRIGGIN EYES. IF YOU CAN'T SEE IT THEN YOUR NO HELP.
They give absolutely no shits about any of it!
This was a complete cluster fuck
Humans can be so stupid sometimes.
Not enough tugs
Der sidder hver
How the world map stayed pink for so long, blows me away. Classic British, hierarchical bullshit.
wat drugs are these people on and . where can i get some.
This is amusing everyone is pointing the finger at everyone else it wasn't my fault it was their fault no no no it was their fault not me!!!
Let the professionals and salvors do there do there job. Politicians should be spanked and sent home without dinner.
every one blaiming the salvors, the blame lies to the pilot, who grounded here!, but as always politics and press know better....sad. its always easy tho give a comment after things have hapened.
Bin hier von Luca hahahah aber das ist echt traurig mannnooo 🥲🥺
How many lost their job over this?
Eric Komperda the pilot is still working in the harbour , the head of the port died two year after the incident in a car crash
more like the NON salvage...
In China there are 2 languages, Mandarin & Cantonese.
4 i believe, but good point ;]
03:20 - this guy needs to see a good dentist ASAP....gives Brits a bad name..
What a fricken mess!
Captain Bill Bailey 03:21 should have spent some of his wages on getting his teeth fixed- they're a horror show of the nth degree (shudders)
edit: 'Commander' John Bywater 22:34 from the Marine Pollution Control Unit could do with being keel-hauled imho....what a silly sausage he is!
The solution to the problem is obvious; blame your political opponents.
So sad.....
And bringing in the Chinese restaurant cook just to ask "what are you doing?" was obviously facetious, bad attempt at a bigoted, underhanded, cheap wise crack, and it was in even poorer taste after those Chinese people tried to help them clean up their own f up. The only joke was the UK.
It's always easy to look at everything that could have been done after a incident because everyone is cool headed after a incident. Obviously, mistakes did occur in this case but are these mistakes so uncommon that they are particular to this incident being mishandled, I am not really that sure. The only, and I want to be clear on this point, the only good thing that can come out of this old disaster is what we learn from it and the measures that are put in place so that it does not repeat itself in total or in a partial manner.
Dangerous water. Port has no business grabbing ropes from boats 300 meters full of oil. But blame the fucking salvers,eh?
Make floggings legal and then see what happens.
Journalists will be the first in the line.
Hii
What a circus.
as mr. trump would say "your fired" the brits said they had all the experts to deal with the prob...so what the f... happend?
They didnt. They only had experts in hindsight. Thats easy.
lots of dish soap needed to clean wild life
So she was piloted and grounded. While the pilot is on board he is the captain. What a stuff up by those vested as controllers. All it seems working in positions well above their actual capacity to work efficiently. No cure for stupid. Can the British marine service do anything right. Bunch of pompous fools.
Bummer! I carried on watching despite the poor quality, grainy video only to have it abruptly cut off at the end. Hopefully, whatever the outcome of this particular incident, measures were ultimately taken to ensure nothing like this happens again.
The only real long term solution is the banning of single hull tankers which has happened