VW selling the fries and drink to make the extra profit. The badge doesn't get backed up by not having the comp pack as standard. When you by a Focus RS it has the whole package mostly as does a Cupra R or a Trophy R for instance. Stupid concept IMO
Performance pack did get you dcc (not everybody is a fan of dcc) 19 inch pretoria wheels (again why choose pretorias when the 18 inch standard wheel is from clubsport s which is the lightest wheel at VW) semi slicks (wet driving ability will be limited) and deristricted speed limiter for those couple of km... this can be deleted for less money. So to sum it up if you want the engine, better cooling, brakes, lightest wheels and everyday driveability (get some ps4s instead of those cup2s on perf. pack) you would not spec the performance pack and save yourself also weight and money as I do not think its worth those 2+ grand :)
I remember when you 'turned up' at Evo magazine and I thought 'who the hell is this guy'! Years later for what it's worth from my perspective you are now one of the best motoring journalists in the world and as echoed below, you really do deserve some TV time ASAP! Great work as always, keep it up.
GTI forever, i still remember back in the days when the mk V first appeared with the DSG, not even ultra expensive cars had it, even today its optional in some expensive cars just to mention one of its greater achievements, the GTI has been so good for quite a long time that it doesnt surprise anymore but it will always be the hot-hatch reference, to fully understand the new GTI you must know that it wants to be an efficient car to do it all, not just a hard suspension fast hatch
Mok Klonge not really, there are many editions from different manufacturers where the engineers are allowed to go crazy or at least do actual modifications . If youre going to name an edition the TCR at least do more than cosmetics
This video stroke a particular nerve with me; insightful review, great photo composition, great setting (things that I take for granted with Carfection but that are crudely missing from other youtube car channels) but what really takes it home for me is the GTI. The GTI has a sweetspot in my heart that the Golf R (or no other car for that matter) can approximate; something about those three letters, the tartan seats, the understatement of it all. I think I now understand what the Swedes mean by Lagom (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagom) and the GTI is the car version of that for me. Is it weird that I want to GTI more than the current sports car I have that costs nearly twice what the GTI does?
You hit the nail on the Golf GTI being "Lagom" in Swedish, which is why I, a Swedish Mk7.5 GTI owner did chose a GTI over it's rivals. A Golf GTI will literally be the only car I'll ever need
There were pretty healthy discounts available on these when I enquired in March, ultimately after thinking this was the Golf for me, I ordered something else. They’re very, very good but I just didn’t want one enough. Another cracking video by you guys though.
Pretty fair review I thought. Personally I think it’s a lot of money for a 40 bhp bump with some added cosmetics. Having driven a regular mk 7.5 with 245 bhp I would probably just get a remap and save a lot of cash. That way you could have a manual box , plus the diff in that car is spot on brilliant to.
They used to sell the facelifted mk7 GTI in the Philippines, but then they stopped selling them to cater more to the lower class with boring cars like the Santana and Polo sedan. Its unfortunate because the Golf GTI was one of the rare hot hatches in the Philippine market :( At least you can still get one used :)
Great little video, as always. You get lots of variations when a big manufacturer is cashing out a model...in this case the face-lifted mark 7. This is especially true when the next model has pre-production teething problems: the mark 8 GTI will appear in 2021 if we are lucky. With the present model, the two natural choices are the 245PS performance pack GTI, with its bomb-proof spec and the Golf R. Why choose anything else?
The TCR looks so fucking beautiful and valuable in my opinion. Just at that pricepoint, there's other cars I'd probably get, like even the Golf R isn't that far off at this point.
Had one in 2016, now an 2018 Audi S3 with 400hp. The GTI was a far nicer car to drive, so much so that I am watching GTI's on You Tube instead of my Audi.
How mamy version are there of the Mk7 Golf GTI, or even just the Mk7 Golf in general. It feels like there are a million different headlight and taillight designs allready for this golf...
@@TheChazas You can't physically fit the 3.0 TFSI on the MQB platform, and the VR6 is getting phased out so don't get your hopes up. Next R will probably use more or less the same 2.0 TSI as now.
As an older bloke I have to laugh when you say its doesn't have alot of power. My 80's 205's plural would have been horrified by that much power and even my latest Golf Gti with 230 BHP makes my old 911sc look tame. When will it end 😂
The best automotive cinematography on TH-cam and the best motoring journalist. I'd love to see a hot hatch head-to-head with the TCR, Type R and the Megane RS Trophy
4:06 You say no other FWD car has anything quite like it (talking about some sort of e-LSD in this car) but I'm pretty sure the i30N performance pack has an e-LSD that works the same way too. Even in ESC Sport mode, it does allow some tire slip. Of course, the tuning on both would be different. I'd be curious to know how this system compares to the i30N's system.
@@ALMX5DP you had it wrong. There's no mechanical locking diff in the gearbox. There's an open diff. It's a clutch pack OUTSIDE the gearbox, hydraulically and electronically operated by the Menu drive modes.
Does the normal GTI performance also has the diff or is it only on the TCR version? Also @4:06 didn't the i30n also had a very good mechanical diff? EVO and other youtube channels where raving about it when the i30n came out.
I own a Clubsport S and I love it to bits! Really curious to know if they chucked the same suspension bits on this TCR! If the are offering Cup2s its highly likely all one would need is to set it up accordingly.
I think they should have made the TCR actually look a bit more like the Touring car it's meant to be based on. I think these how powered Golfs need more visual drama than just a few cheap stickers.
It's not because of emissions, it's just to make it the fastest it possibly can be. Because face it, a DSG will shift faster than any human with a manual. The grams of Co2/km literally differs with just a few grams between a manual GTI or R vs DSG GTI or R.
William Gson well that is true but only in straight line speed When it comes to track performance it is always about driver skill I have seen drivers with manual transmission who beat other drivers with the automatic transmission The DSG is one of the best autos in terms of convenience and performance but the manual is the best
Doesn't justify the extra money over Leon Cupra. Everyone saying the Golf's interior is "far better" than Seat's counterpart, clearly hasn't been in these cars. Yes, I do own a Cupra 290 but when I bought it, I was extensively testing both of these MQB cars. Audi S3 is superior, yes, but Golf and Leon are very evenly matched.
5:20 Renault did it exactly with the new Megane RS Sport chassis option, but every one gave them shit for it. Make up your mind Henry, do you want a car that is livable as a daily driver or a hardcore no-compromise hot hatch?
Reprise m140i is a lovely car, just too many around so I ordered this. There’s not a wrong choice out of those. Golf doesn’t lose value quite as quickly
how this car compares to great manual fwd king civic type-r? i ask because don't say a word about honda (they use it ass a daily). For me this one sounds like vag comercial.
That’s a 65 ish grand car in Canada... look... that’s stupid for any hatchback (granted the CAD dollar is crap at the moment) especially when the Honda Civic type -r is 43+ grand. That said great video.
kanervatie The special Addition GTi’s i.e. club sport S are such good handling makes the part time awd drive pointless because most of the time the Gold R is FWD & only uses the rear wheels when needed
I'm sure the golf is great, but ever-impractical me is saying I could buy at LEAST 7 clio 172/182s and have a lot more fun racing my friends aroudn the country side haha!
You need to keep a POV cam going inset guys..its the only way to get a feel for how she drives. Think about it...your spending all that time trying to express how she drives yet you miss an added way to actually show that and its more entertaining/engrossing..why don't you guys do it?? What, you didnt think of it?? Cant be that too obvious. As said inset it in a corner. Just have it there and leave it. Thanks.
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Henry Catchpole / Chris Harris should have been the new Top Gear
Bianco This comment wins.
and Jethro Bovingdon, a perfect trio IMO.
That’s absolutely true ,
It ll make sense again for TG
Tolmalion My trio exactly!
@@Tolmalion 100%
high end performance car with ‘performance pack’ as an option lol
Once again, 5 am in California, waking up to a Carfection video!!
The best motoring content available today. Altogether excellent.
Agree 👍 😎 and the best part is that they are honest
Ridiculous that this version doesn’t have the performance pack as standard, cynical as hell by VW.
VW selling the fries and drink to make the extra profit. The badge doesn't get backed up by not having the comp pack as standard. When you by a Focus RS it has the whole package mostly as does a Cupra R or a Trophy R for instance. Stupid concept IMO
Probably so it looks cheaper when you look at it first
Renault sport with the trophy megane 4 rs, gives you everything
Performance pack did get you dcc (not everybody is a fan of dcc) 19 inch pretoria wheels (again why choose pretorias when the 18 inch standard wheel is from clubsport s which is the lightest wheel at VW) semi slicks (wet driving ability will be limited) and deristricted speed limiter for those couple of km... this can be deleted for less money. So to sum it up if you want the engine, better cooling, brakes, lightest wheels and everyday driveability (get some ps4s instead of those cup2s on perf. pack) you would not spec the performance pack and save yourself also weight and money as I do not think its worth those 2+ grand :)
Can confirm: the diff is amazing!
As someone who is hard of hearing, I really appreciated the mix on this video. Thank you editor/sound guy!
I remember when you 'turned up' at Evo magazine and I thought 'who the hell is this guy'! Years later for what it's worth from my perspective you are now one of the best motoring journalists in the world and as echoed below, you really do deserve some TV time ASAP! Great work as always, keep it up.
GTI forever, i still remember back in the days when the mk V first appeared with the DSG, not even ultra expensive cars had it, even today its optional in some expensive cars just to mention one of its greater achievements, the GTI has been so good for quite a long time that it doesnt surprise anymore but it will always be the hot-hatch reference, to fully understand the new GTI you must know that it wants to be an efficient car to do it all, not just a hard suspension fast hatch
Mk7 golf has been a great generation for the golf. We got a clubsport, clubsport s, facelift and now a tcr.
Yes. They're trying really hard to beat the type r. Lol.
I have the gti 7.5 performance and 245 bhp and I love it 😎🇬🇧
Phi Collins Me too. With a manual. It is a fantastic car for everyday use 😊🇩🇰
I also have but trading up and can't decide on tcr or r🤔
As always a great film from the people of carfection.
Thanks for mentioning the VAQ. It's underrated and misunderstood. Made by BorgWarner and called FXD. Love mine on my Cupra
I'm amazed by the smile on your face 🤔. You really seemed to enjoy your drive on this car... and I do value your opinion.
I absolutely love those seats!
I'd love to see Henry review the Lexus LC 500, please @Carfection
Its a special edition thought up by the accountants at VW.
So?
Yup and?
Mok Klonge not really, there are many editions from different manufacturers where the engineers are allowed to go crazy or at least do actual modifications . If youre going to name an edition the TCR at least do more than cosmetics
No shit dude, there is no manufacturer that creates any sort of car just to fucking please you. It's always, all about the $$$.
Lol
This video stroke a particular nerve with me; insightful review, great photo composition, great setting (things that I take for granted with Carfection but that are crudely missing from other youtube car channels) but what really takes it home for me is the GTI.
The GTI has a sweetspot in my heart that the Golf R (or no other car for that matter) can approximate; something about those three letters, the tartan seats, the understatement of it all. I think I now understand what the Swedes mean by Lagom (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lagom) and the GTI is the car version of that for me. Is it weird that I want to GTI more than the current sports car I have that costs nearly twice what the GTI does?
You hit the nail on the Golf GTI being "Lagom" in Swedish, which is why I, a Swedish Mk7.5 GTI owner did chose a GTI over it's rivals. A Golf GTI will literally be the only car I'll ever need
Henry's reviews are the BEST! And he drives a Pug!
4:07 Prelude Type SH had something similar (called ATTS).
Why choose this when you can have a Golf R for the same money!!! Madness VW!
Epic video Henry and team. 👌🏼
I've had both and the TCR feels lighter and more energetic, the R can feel heavy. R in the wet, TCR in the dry.
As always everything in my world stops when Carfection and Henry post a new video - never fails to excell! - Love this!😈😈👍
The Leon Cupra has that diff and it’s incredible!
Late Friday night in Sydney; great way to end the week!
Beth Tender crazy time difference as it is 9:30 am here in Pittsburgh PA USA. LOL
There were pretty healthy discounts available on these when I enquired in March, ultimately after thinking this was the Golf for me, I ordered something else. They’re very, very good but I just didn’t want one enough.
Another cracking video by you guys though.
What did you order
Yes, we are still with u Henry
Nice matching with the espresso cup!
Pretty fair review I thought. Personally I think it’s a lot of money for a 40 bhp bump with some added cosmetics. Having driven a regular mk 7.5 with 245 bhp I would probably just get a remap and save a lot of cash. That way you could have a manual box , plus the diff in that car is spot on brilliant to.
Looks like a really solid car, wish they sold GTI's here in the Philippines. like always, great video from Carfection, thanks henry!
They used to sell the facelifted mk7 GTI in the Philippines, but then they stopped selling them to cater more to the lower class with boring cars like the Santana and Polo sedan. Its unfortunate because the Golf GTI was one of the rare hot hatches in the Philippine market :( At least you can still get one used :)
Henry is a Legend
Optional buckets, larger brakes, 310bhp and maybe a manual option wld have been the ultimate send off
Henry great video but how about the Cupra? Same engine,mechanical diff, I think it will be very good rival.
Brilliant review. Henry Catchpole is excellent as always.
Henry Catchpole..... The car geek’s car geek.
I cannot wait to see you guys drive the megane trophy!
Great little video, as always. You get lots of variations when a big manufacturer is cashing out a model...in this case the face-lifted mark 7. This is especially true when the next model has pre-production teething problems: the mark 8 GTI will appear in 2021 if we are lucky. With the present model, the two natural choices are the 245PS performance pack GTI, with its bomb-proof spec and the Golf R. Why choose anything else?
Just a rebadged Leon cupra really just with better interior
The cupra is a bargain
The TCR looks so fucking beautiful and valuable in my opinion. Just at that pricepoint, there's other cars I'd probably get, like even the Golf R isn't that far off at this point.
Still look as sharp as ever and the review was great but I gotta admit I miss the sideburns
Henry's videos are Simply the best!
But only 4 door aviable in the golf?
Had one in 2016, now an 2018 Audi S3 with 400hp. The GTI was a far nicer car to drive, so much so that I am watching GTI's on You Tube instead of my Audi.
How mamy version are there of the Mk7 Golf GTI, or even just the Mk7 Golf in general. It feels like there are a million different headlight and taillight designs allready for this golf...
That colour is 😘 the stickers...well my 3 yr old niece would approve but you can keep em thanks
judging by the coffee you made your way up to Aberfeldy huh ? :)
Great camera work here.
Golf's are just the best, I wish they would bring back 6 cylinders to the R or at least 5.
Haha don t expect it
Well theres been talk about giving R model the V6 3.0L TFSI engine.
@@TheChazas You can't physically fit the 3.0 TFSI on the MQB platform, and the VR6 is getting phased out so don't get your hopes up. Next R will probably use more or less the same 2.0 TSI as now.
As an older bloke I have to laugh when you say its doesn't have alot of power. My 80's 205's plural would have been horrified by that much power and even my latest Golf Gti with 230 BHP makes my old 911sc look tame. When will it end 😂
Happy haircut Henry!
Can't decide between an r or the tcr??
I'd still have the Golf R, thanks
The best automotive cinematography on TH-cam and the best motoring journalist. I'd love to see a hot hatch head-to-head with the TCR, Type R and the Megane RS Trophy
Henry Healy this weeks Autocar magazine is testing all 3
Superb video Henry and that road is a blast, I regularly drive it 👍🏻
Which road is it? I'm building up a collection of roads to explore this summer!
Blueberryruby it’s the B4560 mountain rd to Llangattock
Thumbs up for Henry's new haircut!
4:06 You say no other FWD car has anything quite like it (talking about some sort of e-LSD in this car) but I'm pretty sure the i30N performance pack has an e-LSD that works the same way too. Even in ESC Sport mode, it does allow some tire slip. Of course, the tuning on both would be different. I'd be curious to know how this system compares to the i30N's system.
And the mk4 Focus ST has the same system.
In the vag group, also the cupra, the octavia vrs....
PiroFyre the i30N has something similar? I’ve never heard of a mechanical diff working in conjunction with a electronically controlled clutchpack.
@@ALMX5DP you had it wrong. There's no mechanical locking diff in the gearbox. There's an open diff. It's a clutch pack OUTSIDE the gearbox, hydraulically and electronically operated by the Menu drive modes.
pokest225 oh I thought there was an LSD that worked with the clutches. Maybe I misheard. Thanks.
Does the normal GTI performance also has the diff or is it only on the TCR version? Also @4:06 didn't the i30n also had a very good mechanical diff? EVO and other youtube channels where raving about it when the i30n came out.
Great vid Henry but golfs just do something special to me, like put me to sleep
I own a Clubsport S and I love it to bits! Really curious to know if they chucked the same suspension bits on this TCR! If the are offering Cup2s its highly likely all one would need is to set it up accordingly.
No CS bits it seems, good for you, too bad for the TCR...
Catchpole you legend
Is the diff in this different to the one in the gti perf pack? He mentions the TCR one is mechanical and I’m sure the perf pack one is electronic?
Yeah I have seen conflicting things on this too, would love to know 100%
Perfect weather to test a fwd car 😏
I think they should have made the TCR actually look a bit more like the Touring car it's meant to be based on. I think these how powered Golfs need more visual drama than just a few cheap stickers.
Great car but what is the point of a GTI without a manual transmission?
UE emission regulations. With the manual, the car doesn't comply with the emissions.
pokest225 that’s honestly stupid if the environmentalists want to save the environment they should plant more trees
@@basithph8958 yup. Tell them.
It's not because of emissions, it's just to make it the fastest it possibly can be. Because face it, a DSG will shift faster than any human with a manual. The grams of Co2/km literally differs with just a few grams between a manual GTI or R vs DSG GTI or R.
William Gson well that is true but only in straight line speed
When it comes to track performance it is always about driver skill
I have seen drivers with manual transmission who beat other drivers with the automatic transmission
The DSG is one of the best autos in terms of convenience and performance but the manual is the best
This car’s a good compromise between practicality and performance
Great video, i'd say i'm happy with my edition 40 & sort of glade never held off for this.
The Skoda Octavia RS 245 also got the VAQ :)
Were those winter tyres?
Doesn't justify the extra money over Leon Cupra. Everyone saying the Golf's interior is "far better" than Seat's counterpart, clearly hasn't been in these cars. Yes, I do own a Cupra 290 but when I bought it, I was extensively testing both of these MQB cars. Audi S3 is superior, yes, but Golf and Leon are very evenly matched.
George Eisikovits I’ve got a Leon; financial decision. This is much more car. Not everyone with £250 for a lease will have one of these.
Has the TCR v Type R video been made yet?
The only problem with this car is that you cannot get it in the US. Being a GTI owner myself it brings a tear into my eye knowing I cant get one
Paul Crawford it is a bit of a shame, but if you opt to modify you can build yourself something very close.
Henry Catchpole perfection
5:20
Renault did it exactly with the new Megane RS Sport chassis option, but every one gave them shit for it. Make up your mind Henry, do you want a car that is livable as a daily driver or a hardcore no-compromise hot hatch?
What better weather test out the lsd.
Isn't the new GTI going to be 300HP? I thought I read that somewhere.
Henry, I’m torn between this and an m140i or 240i - please help with the final decision!
Reprise m140i is a lovely car, just too many around so I ordered this. There’s not a wrong choice out of those. Golf doesn’t lose value quite as quickly
Would love to have English subtitles for your videos ;)
Seat Leon CUPRA with Performance Pack. Same engine, better brakes, same diff, same DCC, more extras by stock, 5-6000€ less
Yeah that's what I went for. Although I am lokking at this or the Clubsport next possibly.
Wonder what these are like around a stage 3 mark
When did Guy Martin get glasses and start reviewing cars?
how this car compares to great manual fwd king civic type-r? i ask because don't say a word about honda (they use it ass a daily).
For me this one sounds like vag comercial.
It’s not just me that misses the analog clocks then.
I think these new digital clocks look crap.
Is this version german only
What's the name of the paint
How has my stock S3 with less hp and quite abit more weight higher top speed?
Didnt the Clubsport/ED40 Version had exactly the same type of LSD system?
The worst weather to be driving a grey car. Its a good thing you're on an isolated road.
That’s a 65 ish grand car in Canada... look... that’s stupid for any hatchback (granted the CAD dollar is crap at the moment) especially when the Honda Civic type -r is 43+ grand.
That said great video.
Not even close. You can get a brand new fully loaded golf r for 45k. In bc.
Absolutely that’s what is confusing about this car. The R cost I am aware of.
No TCR in USA?
Is the differential the same in the TCR as in the Leon Cupra 280-290-300-290?
Peter benn pan its the same as the 300 and the 290 (facelift)
It's a less interesting GTI clubsport/ed40 but costs 50% more, atleast in Sweden.
Sold
No Henry! Where's the beard gone?
These special addition Gti’s are so much better than the Golf R
Yes, in what way better?
kanervatie The special Addition GTi’s i.e. club sport S are such good handling makes the part time awd drive pointless because most of the time the Gold R is FWD & only uses the rear wheels when needed
I need 4wd in the winter time when there is just way, WAY too much snow on the streets.
Did you have a fun?
Sooo what about the Veloster N/i30N
I'm sure the golf is great, but ever-impractical me is saying I could buy at LEAST 7 clio 172/182s and have a lot more fun racing my friends aroudn the country side haha!
Edition 40 > TCR
everyone forgets about the MK6 R though
Imo the best looking golf
The performance pack puts it £3k above a Renaultsport Megane Trophy, and there's no manual option either. Renault for me, I think.
They only make very special edition every 5 years, so the Clubsport S won’t be reproduced on the MK7.5
Need that steering wheel in my car.
You need to keep a POV cam going inset guys..its the only way to get a feel for how she drives.
Think about it...your spending all that time trying to express how she drives yet you miss an added way to actually show that and its more entertaining/engrossing..why don't you guys do it?? What, you didnt think of it?? Cant be that too obvious. As said inset it in a corner. Just have it there and leave it. Thanks.