MORE NOTES: - The past in this movie (where the Red queen hit her head) is not the legitimate past, as Alice wouldn't have been alive all those years ago… That whole "past" is just more of her delusion. - We know that time in this film is screwy, because Alice went to Wonderland as a little girl, and then when she came back, nobody aged. It’s all according to her. This single-handedly proves it. - One more extra lesson she learned, which I forgot to mention: You cannot change the past. That was for her mother and whatnot. - More proof she's "dreaming", is that whenever she leaves Underland, everyone fades away, almost like she's waking up. Especially noticeable in the first movie. - After the first movie, the hatter says he will see Alice again... But after this one, she says she'll never see him again... Further implying this is the last movie. - Finally, if you were wondering, this movie really does try establishing that the journey actually happened. In a deleted scene, Hamish swats the blue butterfly, and when time froze, the mirror actually turned different colours. But again, these are just the perceptions of Alice.
back then, my microphone was improperly positioned, I was still getting used to how I would speak for videos, the room I was in had awful echoing, and I just had my teeth "straightened".
*the theorizer on a date* Girl from tinder: so.. what do you do for a living? Theorizer: I make conspiracy theories on children's movies Girl: what Theorizer: what
I'd imagine the Hatter begins to fade because he represents her father and Alice having to consider giving up her ship (which I believe she sees as a representative of her father) and when the situation gets worse so does the Hatter. Did that make sense? eh
And in the real world Alice was supposed to be associated with the father (no shit, me) by their mannerisms and behaviours. So it would make sense that the Hatter represents both her and the father to a certain extent. But then it gets confusing with the gay metaphors?
I think Hatter represents Alice’s true self. She’s looking into her subconscious during a traumatic/identity crisis time and to her past to make sense of her present and decide on how to move forward. She has a mental breakdown but works thru it and the butterfly is re-birth. He went cold cuz she was losing herself, who she is and what she believes in and stands for etc. The characters are parts of her psyche and such and ppl in her life. But hatter is the center because it’s “her”! :)
7:20 When the Mad Hatter says "Dream...Reality...Who's to say which is which?" It could mean that Underland/Wonderland is actually Alice's reality and the real world is just her dream. We are talking about a Tim Burton film after all.
But when Alice escapes the mental institution she is wearing a hospital gown and a robe. When she leaves Wonerland and enters the actual world she is wearing a pink dress and a black vest. In fact you don't go into much detail with her escape from the institution.
It's the little nuances like this that break the dream/insanity theory, because they show how there is an element of reality to all of this in a way that can't be explained as being Just insanity
I think it's just another element of her imagination. Or, rather, how she feels. She feels confident in her own weird skin, so she doesn't need to actually wear the eccentric clothing. She just makes the ordinary rags she is wearing into a magnificent dress just by letting go of her insecurities.
The mirror probably didn't actually turn reddish; like the caterpillar in the first movie, it was only imagined to be that way. And as for the frozen in time thing, it could be taken as a metephor for something that I just completely missed, or it could have been just added in for that dramatic effect bull. *shrugs* But that's just how I see it, I suppose
At the end of the first movie when she has to go home, the hatter says she could just stay in wonderland forever instead of going back home. If wonderland is all in her head, what would’ve happened to her if she did decide to stay forever, would she die in the real world?
If she is an immersive daydreamer, then what would happen is that she would cross the line into being a maladaptive daydreamer. Someone who lives their life on autopilot, lights on but nobody home, because even when reality demands attention, e.g. conversations, you have some degree of awareness, sometimes most of it, on the fantasy as well, causing uncomfortably split attention. I haven't seen this movie but this review makes it sound not like delusion, as the creator thinks, but immersive daydreaming (a skill some people have, which you can use for cathartic reimagining of and spontaneous playful creative thinking about real problems, involving what feel like conscious and unconscious mental processes) threatening to become maladaptive daydreaming (frequent difficulty focusing on reality without your immersive imagination interrupting and tempting you away).
4:00 In the movie Hamish says that she was jabbering about some atmosphere (chronosphere) and was searching under the furniture because she dropped it when she was escaping from Time through the other side of the looking glass. She fell and the chronosphere slipped out of her hand, which again caused Alice to look under the furniture. I'm not saying that I don't support your theory, I do but I'm pretty sure it was real. (after all it is a fictional movie)
Yo Boy P.J. I think he may be done with Coraline for a while because he made the Timeline and even a spinoff theory about the boy in the painting being both the Beldams son and the Cat
I made some notes while watching this. Answers would be appreciated. 1- There could be multiple portals everywhere, however the creature above ground that finds Alice could only know the Ashcroft's home 2- The reason that Alice is on the floor spouting out gibberish is because she went back through a mirror in wonderland to get back to the real world* 3- How can going to sea make her crazy if she hasn't been or we aren't told that she's been in the first movie 4- There are a lot of houses that have mirrors in them, most stately homes do so don't act like it's a big plot twist because most houses have mirrors in 5- Alice could have dreams about the mad hatter after meeting him, just as irl you dream about people that you met during the day 6- Linked to the previous note, Alice has a memory and we are not told otherwise so the Mad Hatter could be saying "remember me" or words to that effect 7- The Mad Hatter could have depression from not seeing Alice hence why he's ill when Alice first goes back into wonderland 8- If the Mad Hatter IS fading away because of Alice not visiting due to not believing in him etc, why are the other characters perfectly fine? *Keeping with the theory in the video, who's to say the "real" world is real and not part of Alice's imagination too? that's it lmao please respond
1. Yup. I said there were multiple portals. 2. Yup. I am well aware. It goes both ways. 3. I didn't say that it was certain evidence, I was just noting what Hamish said as the creators hinting. 4. But I'm referring to magical portal looking glasses. 5. Yup. That's why I'm saying that none of it is real, and it's a dreamt delusion. 6. I know... I don't understand what this note was trying to establish. 7. Yup. That's the most likely reason, but his actual descending into death only occurred when she returned. 8. It's all symbolic of his representation of herself, as all the other characters represent other people in her life. 9. As I think I mentioned in the video, as times, the real world is partially in her delusion, but only briefly at one or two points.
The Theorizer Thank you... most of these were just thoughts as I said... on note 6 I was referring to when you mentioned the Mad Hatter' s line about meeting in dreams etc and you analysed it as of to say it was all a dream. I meant that IF it was real then she would have remembered him anyway on a more literal level.
The Theorizer Also, referring to point number four, all the mirrors could be "magic", but most of the time because they are common they are ignored and no one sees the magic, only Alice can? idk It's also all a work of fiction anyway so I guess that part leaves for mysterious and unexplainable (not sure of that's a word 😂) things to happen
Sarah Hall that's true the mad hatter is fading because none of his other friends believed him but he knew in his heart that his "best friend" would believe him but when she said she didn't it made him question whether she is alice because she'd always believe him in the past
alice was b a t s h i t crazy . the part where they said she was on the floor battling non existent shit was evidenced enough to prove she was seeing shit lol
This theory IS pretty cool, though I still wanna believe what’s going on in Underland is real,since it’s been a part of this interpretation and all, there’s a lot to be said about the lore in that case, I think Alice embraced her madness a bit after this, but in like a good way
Also, Wasn't the hatter fading to do with his family, cause he believes/knows they're alive and no one believes him Side note- Alice doesn't say she doesn't believe IN him, she just says it's impossible for his family to be alive
I feel like i have what alice has because i slipped on ice and got a concussion and my dream was about fictional characters and when i got better i would still see them calling me back to my imaginary world and i still believe it is really happening
The looking glasses don't appear when Alice needs them because its her imagination or whatever. It's like in Harry Potter with the Room Of Requirement. Wonderland provides what it needs to its habitants. It gave wonderland Alice. It gave Alice a way in and out. It gave Alice the key, food and drink to get through. Everything that happens in Wonderland happens because Wonderland chooses for it to happen. Wonderland is almost sentient...
but in the deleted scenes, we see Hamish actually seeing the blue butterfly and tried killing it. i think it proves that everything is real but in other hand, maybe its only Alice who sees the butterfly as blue
I really like your theory, basically it depicts Wonderland as a mental defense mechanism Alice subconsciously uses to cope with her pressuring reality :) It's weird to say that but this movie makes me feel sad about recovering from a mental illness as with recovery this whole world Alice created to cope is destroyed, it actually depicts how sometimes you can hold on to your delusion or illness because it became part of you, you are emotionally attached to it !
As soon as I found this channel I fell in love with it I love how much passion he has you can feel it in the way he talks it engages you and makes you think more ❤️ I hope he continues making videos for a long time his theories are so interesting and I’m hooked! 😊
Make a theory on Avatar the Last Airbender and Legend of Korra. Maybe about the odd rules of the spirit world. You can have MORE EVIDENCE if you need it.
She is dissociated. It is real, too. When she doesn't believe her monarch programmer, he is mortified. When she goes into the compartmentalized Wonderland, in her mind, the hatter has machine wheels around his eyes, like in A Clockwork Orange, symbolizing he is a machine/inhuman. When he is fading away, you see shadows over his eyes, instead. When she says that she went through the walls, she went through the walls in her mind. Lord Ascott became her programmer, and they found her on his floor, but when she learns how to reconcile the events, Wonderland goes away. On a side note, Mia Wasikowska is really Hilary Duff-looking.
This! Hatter is her true “self” .. she is going into her subconscious and past to make sense of her present and what she wants/who she wants to be. Identity crisis of sorts but nervous breakdown
I love your channel and I think you are really creative and that you think of all of these is great theories and it may not be the best graphics but they are all very plausible. I've been here for a while at less a year and a half. I just think you have such a nice community.
She is being pushed mentally and she meets a guy who takes that away from her. He dies and all of the sudden, there is this totally unrealistic third act. It's all a projection in her mind after she goes insane
Also, the parallels between Alice possibly losing her father's ship in the real world and nearly losing the Hatter in Underland, which are both tied to her father. By letting go of the ship and closing the door to Underland, she's finally coming to terms with her father's death. She'll still see him in her dreams and in her memory, for he will always be with her, and therefore she does not need to hold onto the physical objects that she has come to associate with him. Same goes for the pocket watch, I suppose.
yes your theory makes sense. but i SIMPLY REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT. the entire story has all my life told me to believe in out dreams and to keep dreaming and to learn from our imagination. i will never let that be over come by "she's insane", of course she is but AS THEY SAY "allbthe best people are"
Also, around the time this story takes place, there would be people who made hats. Hatters, to be exact. (Ooh, that kind of rhymes!) ok anyway.... The hatters used a special chemical that would help them shape the hats. This chemical happened to have poison type stuff in it. When the hatters would breath it in, it would make them have mental problems. They would do and say weird things. People started to call the hatters(you guessed it,) MAD!! So Alice probably has heard about that somewhere and that's why in her delusions there is a mad hatter!!! BOOM!!! The hatters would also get very sick, so that explains a little bit more about that.
A lot of us live in our realms of imagination, sometimes staying there until we are ready to "Grow Up". It wasn't until I was 50 that I made the decision to stay in the "here and now" instead of dwelling in my world of "Let's Pretend"....So of course for Alice it is all a "Dream" as she figures things out. Maybe acting out in an insane way is just the ticket to get out of a forced or arraigned marriage!
But .....if all of that was a dream, and the Mad hatter knew it was dream or hysteria, couldn't he have told her to just "dream" or "defeat him with her mind"the time man away or something? Or why does the mad hatter have a previous family background that doesn't relate to Alice's father? And why is it so hard for alice to travel everywhere in Wonderland if she's the true controller of it all (can't she just magically appear in the place she wants to go?)
the mad hatter is fading because none of his other friends believed him but he knew in his heart that his "best friend" would believe him but when she said she didn't it made him question whether she is alice because she'd always believe him in the past
Hatter is her true “self” and nobody was believing in her anymore and her father died - the only one who understood and believed in her. If Alice didn’t believe Hatter, she would be ultimately abandoning her own self and belief in who she knows she is and her true strength etc. Identity crisis of sorts and nervous breakdown. Metaphorical imo
the line that pushes your theory also goes against it (“who’s to say what’s a dream and what’s reality”) most people would chalk her experience up to a dream automatically but who’s to say
There is actually 4 Alice books. Alice's Adventures in Wonderland Alice's Adventures Under Ground Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There The Wasp in the Wig The Nursery Alice
You seem to pretend that the possibility of her being psychotic is bad or frightening, but this movie is simply a lot better than that, it isn't bad, or scary, it's just different, underland is just how Alice as a psychotic individual deals with her problems. And she ALWAYS deals with them, Alice's is a healthy psychosis in which she rather than falling under the weight of a delusion, uses the power of these delusions to resolve conflicts in a safe, and healthy manner.
Can you please do a theory on Alice:Madness Returns or American Mcgees Alice? I have a few questions such as: Why has Dr.Bumby killed the Liddel Family? Is Alice trapped between Wonderland And London forever from the end of the game? Did Alice kill Dr.Bumby mentally or phisically or both? Why does the red queen look like a younger version of Alice? Why has Dr Bumby made Alice forget using the key to her sisters room? Wont that make her remember more? Please help me out xD
WHAT! WHAT? WHAT?! Alice killed Wonderland? Hatter being ok with dying, out of her letting her go back home? How are they ALL ok of dying and only being seen in dreams that allow them to live? Do the queens even get a chance to say 'bye' either? I mean, I understand that they're all 'bonkers', but why would they only want to be a fragment or fragments of a dream where they don't mean anything to her?
I don't believe this. I understand it and I see that it's right but I choose to not believe it because Underland will never be dead to me. I don't accept it.
I don't know about you guys but I thought this 'theory' was already obvious in both movies. And its not really a theory because what he said is actually the whole point of the movies.
MORE NOTES:
- The past in this movie (where the Red queen hit her head) is not the legitimate past, as Alice wouldn't have been alive all those years ago… That whole "past" is just more of her delusion.
- We know that time in this film is screwy, because Alice went to Wonderland as a little girl, and then when she came back, nobody aged. It’s all according to her. This single-handedly proves it.
- One more extra lesson she learned, which I forgot to mention: You cannot change the past. That was for her mother and whatnot.
- More proof she's "dreaming", is that whenever she leaves Underland, everyone fades away, almost like she's waking up. Especially noticeable in the first movie.
- After the first movie, the hatter says he will see Alice again... But after this one, she says she'll never see him again... Further implying this is the last movie.
- Finally, if you were wondering, this movie really does try establishing that the journey actually happened. In a deleted scene, Hamish swats the blue butterfly, and when time froze, the mirror actually turned different colours. But again, these are just the perceptions of Alice.
The Theorizer why did you talk so different in the last one?
The Theorizer can u make a quick vedio explain this it's difficult to get reading it
back then, my microphone was improperly positioned, I was still getting used to how I would speak for videos, the room I was in had awful echoing, and I just had my teeth "straightened".
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The Theorizer I nearly started crying when you said Alice let go of Wonderland. I guess Im going insane soon like she did.😂
*the theorizer on a date*
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I'd imagine the Hatter begins to fade because he represents her father and Alice having to consider giving up her ship (which I believe she sees as a representative of her father) and when the situation gets worse so does the Hatter. Did that make sense? eh
Phantoms Child this actually makes perfect sense,I was also thinking that The Hatter could Resemble Alice's Father
And in the real world Alice was supposed to be associated with the father (no shit, me) by their mannerisms and behaviours. So it would make sense that the Hatter represents both her and the father to a certain extent. But then it gets confusing with the gay metaphors?
I think Hatter represents Alice’s true self. She’s looking into her subconscious during a traumatic/identity crisis time and to her past to make sense of her present and decide on how to move forward. She has a mental breakdown but works thru it and the butterfly is re-birth. He went cold cuz she was losing herself, who she is and what she believes in and stands for etc. The characters are parts of her psyche and such and ppl in her life. But hatter is the center because it’s “her”! :)
"of course it's all happening inside your head. But why on earth should that mean it's not real?" Anyone get the reference?
Itsthewitchfromnextdoor Dumbledore!
I am just your imagination Harry, its time to wake up.
Brb. Crying in the club rn
Hatter!!!! Oh dumbledore oops why didn't I think that even though I LOVE HARRY POTTER!!!!!!!!!
Brian!!
"You either hate it or you love it. I sit right in the middle."
... Huh.
Makes total sense. Yep. 100% accurate.
It means he likes it and doesn't like it
UltimateKyuubiFox What doesn't make sense?
Inel Langley more accurate
He likes it. He just doesn't love it.
Mademoiselle Macabre he said that you either love it or hate it. And a second later he says he’s neither
7:20
When the Mad Hatter says "Dream...Reality...Who's to say which is which?" It could mean that Underland/Wonderland is actually Alice's reality and the real world is just her dream. We are talking about a Tim Burton film after all.
I always percieved it as both
But when Alice escapes the mental institution she is wearing a hospital gown and a robe. When she leaves Wonerland and enters the actual world she is wearing a pink dress and a black vest.
In fact you don't go into much detail with her escape from the institution.
It's the little nuances like this that break the dream/insanity theory, because they show how there is an element of reality to all of this in a way that can't be explained as being Just insanity
I think it's just another element of her imagination. Or, rather, how she feels. She feels confident in her own weird skin, so she doesn't need to actually wear the eccentric clothing. She just makes the ordinary rags she is wearing into a magnificent dress just by letting go of her insecurities.
WHAT ABOUT THE SCENE WHERE THE MIRROR TURNS THE REDISH COLOR AND EVERYONE IS FROZEN IN TIME?!?!?!?!?
idek
The Theorizer Little plot hole in the theory... oops😉
it might shows that her brain was shutting down or maybe dying. I have no idea.
Could be her brain taking a split second moment to think on the past, or a pause in her thinking.
The mirror probably didn't actually turn reddish; like the caterpillar in the first movie, it was only imagined to be that way. And as for the frozen in time thing, it could be taken as a metephor for something that I just completely missed, or it could have been just added in for that dramatic effect bull. *shrugs* But that's just how I see it, I suppose
I was extremely convinced. Great theory!
Can you make a Spiderwick Chronicles Theory?? I have not seen one before.
LADY_ARIES_
too much reading for me ;)
LIES Spiderwick was a Great Movie :3
I wish there was more.
I agree! I would love that!
oooh honey we need that
LADY_ARIES_ YES I HOPE HE DOES
Can you do Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children?
Slightly Misdirected omg yes that has sooooo many mysterys
Eh, as long as he follows the books too. So much of that world's lore was left unexplained in the movie
Slightly Misdirected YASSSS
The Joker Or he should at least mention that there was a book version long before the movie.
omg yes
At the end of the first movie when she has to go home, the hatter says she could just stay in wonderland forever instead of going back home. If wonderland is all in her head, what would’ve happened to her if she did decide to stay forever, would she die in the real world?
Mad_Alice yeah definitely, or she would probably slip into a coma in the real world and live out wonderland in her head.
If she is an immersive daydreamer, then what would happen is that she would cross the line into being a maladaptive daydreamer. Someone who lives their life on autopilot, lights on but nobody home, because even when reality demands attention, e.g. conversations, you have some degree of awareness, sometimes most of it, on the fantasy as well, causing uncomfortably split attention.
I haven't seen this movie but this review makes it sound not like delusion, as the creator thinks, but immersive daydreaming (a skill some people have, which you can use for cathartic reimagining of and spontaneous playful creative thinking about real problems, involving what feel like conscious and unconscious mental processes) threatening to become maladaptive daydreaming (frequent difficulty focusing on reality without your immersive imagination interrupting and tempting you away).
@@compulsiverambler1352 okay that makes a lot of sense
4:00 In the movie Hamish says that she was jabbering about some atmosphere (chronosphere) and was searching under the furniture because she dropped it when she was escaping from Time through the other side of the looking glass. She fell and the chronosphere slipped out of her hand, which again caused Alice to look under the furniture. I'm not saying that I don't support your theory, I do but I'm pretty sure it was real. (after all it is a fictional movie)
What about Coraline?We miss her☹️
Yo Boy P.J.
he already squeezed a lot from that movie
Yo Boy P.J. I think he may be done with Coraline for a while because he made the Timeline and even a spinoff theory about the boy in the painting being both the Beldams son and the Cat
What more could he possibly cover on Coraline??
Janae Marie exactly
Mr. Nfowleri oh
actually, Alice didn´t sell the ship. Her mother tore the agreement apart.
I made some notes while watching this. Answers would be appreciated.
1- There could be multiple portals everywhere, however the creature above ground that finds Alice could only know the Ashcroft's home
2- The reason that Alice is on the floor spouting out gibberish is because she went back through a mirror in wonderland to get back to the real world*
3- How can going to sea make her crazy if she hasn't been or we aren't told that she's been in the first movie
4- There are a lot of houses that have mirrors in them, most stately homes do so don't act like it's a big plot twist because most houses have mirrors in
5- Alice could have dreams about the mad hatter after meeting him, just as irl you dream about people that you met during the day
6- Linked to the previous note, Alice has a memory and we are not told otherwise so the Mad Hatter could be saying "remember me" or words to that effect
7- The Mad Hatter could have depression from not seeing Alice hence why he's ill when Alice first goes back into wonderland
8- If the Mad Hatter IS fading away because of Alice not visiting due to not believing in him etc, why are the other characters perfectly fine?
*Keeping with the theory in the video, who's to say the "real" world is real and not part of Alice's imagination too?
that's it lmao please respond
1. Yup. I said there were multiple portals.
2. Yup. I am well aware. It goes both ways.
3. I didn't say that it was certain evidence, I was just noting what Hamish said as the creators hinting.
4. But I'm referring to magical portal looking glasses.
5. Yup. That's why I'm saying that none of it is real, and it's a dreamt delusion.
6. I know... I don't understand what this note was trying to establish.
7. Yup. That's the most likely reason, but his actual descending into death only occurred when she returned.
8. It's all symbolic of his representation of herself, as all the other characters represent other people in her life.
9. As I think I mentioned in the video, as times, the real world is partially in her delusion, but only briefly at one or two points.
The Theorizer Thank you... most of these were just thoughts as I said... on note 6 I was referring to when you mentioned the Mad Hatter' s line about meeting in dreams etc and you analysed it as of to say it was all a dream. I meant that IF it was real then she would have remembered him anyway on a more literal level.
The Theorizer Also, referring to point number four, all the mirrors could be "magic", but most of the time because they are common they are ignored and no one sees the magic, only Alice can? idk
It's also all a work of fiction anyway so I guess that part leaves for mysterious and unexplainable (not sure of that's a word 😂) things to happen
Sarah Hall that's true the mad hatter is fading because none of his other friends believed him but he knew in his heart that his "best friend" would believe him but when she said she didn't it made him question whether she is alice because she'd always believe him in the past
alice was b a t s h i t crazy . the part where they said she was on the floor battling non existent shit was evidenced enough to prove she was seeing shit lol
This theory IS pretty cool, though I still wanna believe what’s going on in Underland is real,since it’s been a part of this interpretation and all, there’s a lot to be said about the lore in that case, I think Alice embraced her madness a bit after this, but in like a good way
I was the first to finish this video because I watched it on 2x speed
Kevin McGinty nope watched it 4x speed
Kevin McGinty I just skipped to the end, so you're both wrong
Kevin McGinty I started at the end, sorry guys
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Why everyone so obsessed with being first? I would genuinely like to know..
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I like jordan underneath' video on it, you know, before he went jack shit crazy
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The producers were like, "Darn it! He figured out our plan! QUICK! We need to make a third movie! Call it 'Alice is NOT Dreaming!'"
Also,
Wasn't the hatter fading to do with his family, cause he believes/knows they're alive and no one believes him
Side note- Alice doesn't say she doesn't believe IN him, she just says it's impossible for his family to be alive
3:52 she was found trying to get under the chair to get the chronosphere
I feel like i have what alice has because i slipped on ice and got a concussion and my dream was about fictional characters and when i got better i would still see them calling me back to my imaginary world and i still believe it is really happening
Lapis Lazuli you might be the real Alice 😱😱😱 btw i hope your ok 💖💖❤️
Im early!
I should say something smart and unique..But.. Nah its youtube.
*slowly claps*
TheCrazy Dragon slow claps suddenly turn into a standing ovation. ( Someone tell me kindly if I spell anything wrong ).
This is a funny name. this is the best "I'm early" coment ever
The looking glasses don't appear when Alice needs them because its her imagination or whatever. It's like in Harry Potter with the Room Of Requirement. Wonderland provides what it needs to its habitants. It gave wonderland Alice. It gave Alice a way in and out. It gave Alice the key, food and drink to get through.
Everything that happens in Wonderland happens because Wonderland chooses for it to happen. Wonderland is almost sentient...
So...
The moral of this is that when you need advice, turn to shrooms.
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You Mr Theorizer, are a bad man;
influencing children to do drugs is wrong and immoral
You should be ashamed of yourself!!!
The fuck you mean
Would it be possible for you to do a theory on American McGee's Alice, Alice Madness Returns and Alice: Otherlands?
Same here.
I hope it wont be about how many times the doc raped alice cos by god it happened and we all know it did.
What’s this?
Also THANK YOU FOR MAKING THIS :)
The Theorizer You should make a video on the game Alice and its sequel Alice Madness Returns!!
Alfredo Saldana We need that
but in the deleted scenes, we see Hamish actually seeing the blue butterfly and tried killing it. i think it proves that everything is real but in other hand, maybe its only Alice who sees the butterfly as blue
And how the mirror turned red when the time froze
How do you explain her outfit change? When she comes out of wonderland and she's wearing the same thing.
Zquee's Fashion oh my gosh. You a Genius
I was looking for someone to mention this
Well , WHERE DID ALICE GET THAT DRESS SHE HAS ON WHEN SHE CAME BACK HUUUUH
1:57 She uses them to teach her life lessons and help her with situations- Alice raises sword *OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!*
I really like your theory, basically it depicts Wonderland as a mental defense mechanism Alice subconsciously uses to cope with her pressuring reality :) It's weird to say that but this movie makes me feel sad about recovering from a mental illness as with recovery this whole world Alice created to cope is destroyed, it actually depicts how sometimes you can hold on to your delusion or illness because it became part of you, you are emotionally attached to it !
those pictures of Alice with weird eyes...
creepy
"dream... reality... who's to say which is which"
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That's the spirit.
He said he would do it at 1 million :3
The Movie Detective why do you care about his face
As soon as I found this channel I fell in love with it I love how much passion he has you can feel it in the way he talks it engages you and makes you think more ❤️ I hope he continues making videos for a long time his theories are so interesting and I’m hooked! 😊
Hidden secret message: Glitch and Part of your world. Enjoy! 😊😉😊 nice video!
then what about the part when alice goes back again to wonderland wearing a robe or mental suit then comes back with a red dress😏😏
8:44 I will see you in my nightmares
Make a theory on Avatar the Last Airbender and Legend of Korra. Maybe about the odd rules of the spirit world. You can have MORE EVIDENCE if you need it.
Andrew Bercovitz YAS AVATAR 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
@Mia Baker a year late but they mentioned the legend of korra which is part of the animated canon, so i would assume the animated series.
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She is dissociated. It is real, too. When she doesn't believe her monarch programmer, he is mortified. When she goes into the compartmentalized Wonderland, in her mind, the hatter has machine wheels around his eyes, like in A Clockwork Orange, symbolizing he is a machine/inhuman. When he is fading away, you see shadows over his eyes, instead. When she says that she went through the walls, she went through the walls in her mind. Lord Ascott became her programmer, and they found her on his floor, but when she learns how to reconcile the events, Wonderland goes away. On a side note, Mia Wasikowska is really Hilary Duff-looking.
This! Hatter is her true “self” .. she is going into her subconscious and past to make sense of her present and what she wants/who she wants to be. Identity crisis of sorts but nervous breakdown
Why doesn't this guy have 1mil, i love his videos
This is way to scary to watch at ten in the evening!
OMG LOL 6:48 "This isn't all.." An ad appeared 😂
No matter how much evidence you have I still think it's real and she's not insane
look up AIWS meaning. It will help you understand the origins.
dat upload date caught me by surprise
She Falls On The Ground Because She Goes Out The Looking Glass Back To Reality When She Is Cornered By Time.
I love your channel and I think you are really creative and that you think of all of these is great theories and it may not be the best graphics but they are all very plausible. I've been here for a while at less a year and a half. I just think you have such a nice community.
I hate to admit that she was hallucinating but this is and amazing theory
Do 2016's 'the little prince' girl is insane
She is being pushed mentally and she meets a guy who takes that away from her. He dies and all of the sudden, there is this totally unrealistic third act. It's all a projection in her mind after she goes insane
Also, the parallels between Alice possibly losing her father's ship in the real world and nearly losing the Hatter in Underland, which are both tied to her father. By letting go of the ship and closing the door to Underland, she's finally coming to terms with her father's death. She'll still see him in her dreams and in her memory, for he will always be with her, and therefore she does not need to hold onto the physical objects that she has come to associate with him.
Same goes for the pocket watch, I suppose.
**Slams evidence on table** YOU ARE RIGHT!!
yes your theory makes sense. but i SIMPLY REFUSE TO BELIEVE IT. the entire story has all my life told me to believe in out dreams and to keep dreaming and to learn from our imagination.
i will never let that be over come by "she's insane", of course she is but AS THEY SAY "allbthe best people are"
Also, around the time this story takes place, there would be people who made hats. Hatters, to be exact. (Ooh, that kind of rhymes!) ok anyway....
The hatters used a special chemical that would help them shape the hats. This chemical happened to have poison type stuff in it. When the hatters would breath it in, it would make them have mental problems. They would do and say weird things. People started to call the hatters(you guessed it,) MAD!! So Alice probably has heard about that somewhere and that's why in her delusions there is a mad hatter!!! BOOM!!! The hatters would also get very sick, so that explains a little bit more about that.
This is awesome! I can't get enough of your theories! I just love the way you catch little details in movies that most people miss. Great video! 👍🏻
can you do a theory on paranorman because if you haven't seen it you need because there is a lot to theorize on it
In a few weeks a Corpse Bride/Paranorman theory is being released
The Theorizer thanks I can't wait for them
A lot of us live in our realms of imagination, sometimes staying there until we are ready to "Grow Up". It wasn't until I was 50 that I made the decision to stay in the "here and now" instead of dwelling in my world of "Let's Pretend"....So of course for Alice it is all a "Dream" as she figures things out. Maybe acting out in an insane way is just the ticket to get out of a forced or arraigned marriage!
But .....if all of that was a dream, and the Mad hatter knew it was dream or hysteria, couldn't he have told her to just "dream" or "defeat him with her mind"the time man away or something? Or why does the mad hatter have a previous family background that doesn't relate to Alice's father? And why is it so hard for alice to travel everywhere in Wonderland if she's the true controller of it all (can't she just magically appear in the place she wants to go?)
What about the outfit shes where's when she came home from underland?
love these Theoryssss
oml is soo good cos it makes sence
I like your theories. You may not always be right but that's what theories are for. I'm sorry people like to insult your work. Keep up the good job.
8:00 ~don’t fear Varli is here🤠
TH-cam unsubbed me for about a year.....
Luckily found your channel again!
the mad hatter is fading because none of his other friends believed him but he knew in his heart that his "best friend" would believe him but when she said she didn't it made him question whether she is alice because she'd always believe him in the past
Hatter is her true “self” and nobody was believing in her anymore and her father died - the only one who understood and believed in her. If Alice didn’t believe Hatter, she would be ultimately abandoning her own self and belief in who she knows she is and her true strength etc. Identity crisis of sorts and nervous breakdown. Metaphorical imo
the line that pushes your theory also goes against it (“who’s to say what’s a dream and what’s reality”) most people would chalk her experience up to a dream automatically but who’s to say
I swear I never saw her at the mental hospital and I was watching the movie very very closely because of the first wonderland theory
There is actually 4 Alice books.
Alice's Adventures in Wonderland
Alice's Adventures Under Ground
Through the Looking-Glass and What Alice Found There
The Wasp in the Wig
The Nursery Alice
You seem to pretend that the possibility of her being psychotic is bad or frightening, but this movie is simply a lot better than that, it isn't bad, or scary, it's just different, underland is just how Alice as a psychotic individual deals with her problems. And she ALWAYS deals with them, Alice's is a healthy psychosis in which she rather than falling under the weight of a delusion, uses the power of these delusions to resolve conflicts in a safe, and healthy manner.
This is the earliest I've been to one of your videos....
I'm so proud.
if the mad hatter will see her in her dreams means that her talking to him is reality
Presley Adkins my mind is blown 💥💥💥💥 that was my mind exploding
THANKS DUDE!!!!! :)
I might be stupid but when did alice jump on Hamish 6:42
¡ You should definitely watch the deleted scenes !
R u trying to ruin my childhood cause it's working as much as I love ur theories U KEEP RUINING MY CHILDHOOD
I love the sound you make when reading the comments
Can you please do a theory on Alice:Madness Returns or American Mcgees Alice? I have a few questions such as: Why has Dr.Bumby killed the Liddel Family? Is Alice trapped between Wonderland And London forever from the end of the game? Did Alice kill Dr.Bumby mentally or phisically or both? Why does the red queen look like a younger version of Alice? Why has Dr Bumby made Alice forget using the key to her sisters room? Wont that make her remember more? Please help me out xD
WHAT! WHAT? WHAT?! Alice killed Wonderland? Hatter being ok with dying, out of her letting her go back home? How are they ALL ok of dying and only being seen in dreams that allow them to live? Do the queens even get a chance to say 'bye' either? I mean, I understand that they're all 'bonkers', but why would they only want to be a fragment or fragments of a dream where they don't mean anything to her?
04:38 the face is gonna haunt my dreams
There are philosophies that state reality is subjective.
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Best Theory ever
I crave this channel then immediately watch the movie ;)
I love theroy 🦋 but I love the movie more. 🐾 🎩, still awesome work The Theorizer
Tim B. needs to make another one.
Alice doesn’t sell her ship
When she returns (when her mom is about to sigh away the ship) she refuses and then Alice and her mom sail of together
Alice is not going through a crisis Alice is going through puberty and she's in her late teens because the story is set in 1921
Hitesh Dasari HD even if you go through puberty you ain't gonna be as crazy as her in your mind
Alice is not a teen. She’s a adult now in the second movie and she doesn’t have puberty.
I don't believe this. I understand it and I see that it's right but I choose to not believe it because Underland will never be dead to me. I don't accept it.
I'm sorry but I can't deal with Alice's picture you chose I just can't it's going to give me nightmares
I like to think it wasn't a dream but an actual parallel universe
Seriously, please do one on the original books. I haven't seen anything on the original. Just the new things on them now a days.
I don't know about you guys but I thought this 'theory' was already obvious in both movies. And its not really a theory because what he said is actually the whole point of the movies.
I love this theory it's so cool 🦋
Are you Sirius . After this theory I started crying .
P.S. mad hater is my favorite character.
What if, Lord Ascott is Time!? No, bad explanation, sounds interesting though.
6:43 did that really happen in the movie?
Loved it! And I love this movie so much. Fight me
THIS VIDEO WAS INTERESTING BUT IT CRUSHED ME
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another supporting fact is that they are always sitting at the table waiting for her at tea time