I am working in a body shop and have the same problem with headrest latch locked after a few tries, thank you for a great video that you’re sharing! Helped us fixed the problem and reset it in minutes! Thumbs up!!!
Thanks so much! I got rear-ended by a cop 2 weeks ago but because of my work schedule have not been able to take my car in. I've been driving my other vehicle because so far none of the videos I've had time to watch have not made sense. Simple and easy! Done in 10 secs!
Not quite 2 years but mine just randomly popped out one day and I don’t usually use the headrest but my goodness it is so uncomfortable on long rides with it popped out.
Was driving around with my headrest like that for a month. Thank you sir for the info. Luckly my pin was in place and the teeth were open. Just wrestled it back on now. Happy days
THANK YOU^2 - yours is the ONLY video that discusses both a dislodged metal pin and closed servo-actuated latch. My situation included both - other TH-cam vids assume/start off with a pin-in-place and an open latch, which given my sitch, were not helpful. Saved me some bucks amigo, gracias! TIP FOR OPENING LATCH - although the car runs on a 12 volt system, a regular 9 volt battery worked to pop my latch open. Just need two pieces insulated wire (maybe even paaper clips?) with both ends stripped- unplug the servo harness at the seat back as shown in video, insert one end of the two wires into the servo harness (headrest-side, top part of wiring, NOT supply/car power-side, bottom part of wiring) and touch the respective +/grnd leads to the 9v battery.
THANK YOU, THANK, YOU THANK YOU!!!! Finally someone who truly understands all aspects of this problem and how to fix it! And special thanks for showing us how to re-trigger the little latch with the battery. (Mine had become locked again, too, during my initial troubleshooting when I didn't understand the problem.). Also, my metal rod had become lodged down inside the headrest and I was able to finally find it with a magnet, just like you said. Thank you for making and sharing this video! You are THE MAN!
Thanks so much for the great tips, I would not have found the steel pin for sure unless you said where to look and I used a small magnet taped to a screwdriver to retrieve it, and of course I dropped it another 3 times while attempting to reset it. Also , double checked the lock clip was ok before I played with it, but I did find out the black strap was interfering with me trying to latch it, so I moved it out of the way and finally reset. . Mine deployed when I hit a very hard pothole which surprisingly did not ruin the wheel or tire. thank you !
Same thing happened to me! I didn't lose the pin out of my headrests, but I hit a pothole hard enough that it popped a tire and bent a wheel. Thankfully the wheel was able to be repaired. Oddly enough, I didn't even notice the headrests deployed until weeks later after I got the new tire mounted on the repaired wheel and put it back on the car. I must've had so much adrenaline from hitting the pothole that I didn't even notice the how far forward I was sitting!
@@cheesecake00222 I really had no idea what was going on, my head sprung forward , but it is a safety feature, luckily I got them both back, thanks to this video. Hope you are ok.
I wish I would have watched this video sooner. I replaced the headrest the first time it happened. So when it happened to the second one. I have been driving it like that because I couldn't find another one at the wrecking yard. Thank you very much and thumbs up at 400
For those of you who also had you're pin pop out I had to place the pin in forward, then rotate the pin sideways and back into the slots for the pins to sit in. I used a pair of pliers to hold the pin and then fingers to move the pin around and pull backwards with the pliers into the slot.
Thank you. One of my pins fell out too and took a while to fish it out. Leaning the seat way back helped. Great video! Thanks for saving me a trip to the shop!
Just wanted to say thanks very much. After a bit of a fight they're both sorted. You've saved me a trip to the dealer and a few quid. Much appreciated!
Thank you. I read that this was dealer only. Some greedy liar. You did a fantastic job making this. All my questions were answered, honestly, and without delay.
Thank you for the thorough video! You went through all the points and made It clear of the issues we might run into and how to resolve them I wish all videos were like this. My problem was that latch and I couldn't lock the headrest in thank you
Thank you so much!! Watching this video helped me fix my 2014 dodge caravan head rest! I didn’t even have to take off the back soo!’ That was awesome!!
Thank you do much.. You really helped me out. The trick was electric power to unlock the headrest lock .. 👌🏽 I missed that on the first headrest problem. 😘
THANK YOU! I would have never figured out how to reset the locks. Battery worked like a charm. The plastic retainers for the pin were broken so I will have to plastic weld them back. Do-able now that the hooks are reset.
I did plastic welding, epoxy glue and rigged up stiff wires to anchor the pin. Still had a problem getting it to latch into place. Put some WD40 on the pin and it latched. I think all the revisions reduced the tolerance and it needed some lubrication to slide into place. @@CaseyPhilson
thank you!! I’ve been driving around with both of my headrests bouncing around and creaking, thinking I needed a special tool that didn’t come with my car from another video I watched. Thanks to you - it turns out no tool was needed and I fixed it while following your video! I have a 2011 c300 that this worked perfectly for. Thanks again!!
I had offended bender and my head rest popped up and my son called you up online and we did this thing that you told us to do and it worked thank you so much for showing us how to get out here hairdress back down without have to go to a car dealer do you
@@gigicruz7321 Yes I used a pair of Breadboard jumper wires (male to male). I inserted the two jumper wires inside the connector coming from the headrest to the 9v battery. I hope this helps 🤞
Awesome that work to unlock the latch. I used a 9v and cut down a twisty tie for wire. Pushed wires into plug and tapped appropriate ends with battery and it unlatched. Awesome.
Thanks. Perfect instructions!! Thanks for discussing the pin and how to re-trigger the latch. Other videos did not discuss this and I locked the two fingers. All perfect now.
Hello, thank you For this video it helped a lot but I'm not a car person so when you say put the black wire to negative and the green to a 12 V battery would you be able to make a short video on that or explain more in depth in reply to this comment please? And a 12 V battery does, does that have to be a car battery or is there a different 12 V battery I can use because those wires are short and I don't know how I can connect them to each side of a car battery?
Just fixed my 2014 jeep grand Cherokee I had to really use some strength and do the exact order that he said, but it did pop right into place. I have a small gap, but I think that I’ve always had that gap.
Thanks, going to try it. I got rear ended by small Honda Civic, both seat headrests popped, and it hit near my neck and back of head, cause all my pain. Wasn’t that hard but they popped.
I’m not great with cars at all but I know you are using the battery. But what tool is it that you are using to stick into the yellow plug to unlock the head rest. Mine is locked and I have the yellow plug undone. But now sure what to use. Thanks!!
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You - you were right about those clamps on the back - mine were pushed back so with some needle nose pliers I pulled those forward and that did the trick!
hi great information but i have a question, I accidently pulled the hook closed and need to have it opened to pull the headrest back , how did you disengage lock in the begining of video?
Thank you for the explanation let me ask you something on the connection from the headrest there’s two little pins do you put the cable to one or both and connected to the positive side of the battery or the negative Or both
One pin is for the positive, and the other is for the negative, it shouldn't matter which is which. It is difficult because the pins are small, but DO NOT touch the positive and negative wires together! Only connect one pin to +12V, and the other pin to -12V power. As soon as you do that, the circuit is complete and the headrest will release.
David Groebl Thank you so so very much just one more question and I really hate bothering you so much does it matter what kind of cable you use to connect the pins to the battery
Not really no, your only going to keep the circuit connected for just a brief moment until the solenoid opens and released the headrest. Because of this, you can you small wires. 12 AWG speaker wire should be fine.
I wonder why that does that. Seems like it would catapult you forward into the window. I let my daughter drive the car I just got used and suddenly it is open. I guess I will see if my husband can fix it. Thank you for showing us. I hope we can get it back together.
tazer220 actually I just plugged it back in and then the light went right off. Perhaps I might have needed to disconnect the battery for a few minutes to clear the code. Sorry I don’t remember that was several years ago now. I do remember that it was very easy. I’m pretty sure it just went off once I reconnected it and cycled the key on and off.
Hello. Your video is very good. Would you make another one how did you exactly wire the black to negative and green wire to 12 volt. I've tried but I don't understand why it didn't release the head rest. I'd appreciate it if you let me know when that video is made. Thank you
As suggested by Jason Dube in the comments. You can actually just use a 9V battery. If your headrest did not release I'd expect it's because you did not make a complete circuit. Either you were not connected to both the positive & negative sides of the battery, or you did not touch both metal contacts inside the headrest plug. Keep in mind all, four of those connections need to happen at the same time to complete the circuit. Using paper clips will help you reach the metal contacts inside the headrest plug.
Just did this but the SR5 light is still on? Did I have to keep the plug plugged when you put the headrest back in place? I had it plugged and just put the pin back and clamped it back down and it stayed in place. But my light is still on for some reason
@@CaseyPhilson full replacement for free by your local Dodge dealer. It's the only way. Unless you want to get a shady scrapyard part. Basically it's under recall still. Schedule it and be done with it.
I actually used a 2nd car battery that I had in my garage. I bet a little A23 battery would work though. It really shouldn't take much power to fire the solenoid. Another option would be to just use the battery from the car. You could leave it in place, no need to even disconnect it. Just use some speak wire or something to make a long cord running to the seat.
Great video but my problem is that I can't get the metal pin back in place (now that I finally fished it out from the bottom of the headrest lol). How do you get that metal pin back in where it belongs ??? Thanks for the help!
I am working in a body shop and have the same problem with headrest latch locked after a few tries, thank you for a great video that you’re sharing! Helped us fixed the problem and reset it in minutes! Thumbs up!!!
Thanks so much! I got rear-ended by a cop 2 weeks ago but because of my work schedule have not been able to take my car in. I've been driving my other vehicle because so far none of the videos I've had time to watch have not made sense. Simple and easy! Done in 10 secs!
Kaysha Alston so sorry you got hit, but that’s hilarious that it was a cop! Hope your alright! Glad I could help
Have been driving with headrest unlocked for 2 years, thanks.
Not quite 2 years but mine just randomly popped out one day and I don’t usually use the headrest but my goodness it is so uncomfortable on long rides with it popped out.
Was driving around with my headrest like that for a month. Thank you sir for the info. Luckly my pin was in place and the teeth were open. Just wrestled it back on now. Happy days
THANK YOU^2 - yours is the ONLY video that discusses both a dislodged metal pin and closed servo-actuated latch. My situation included both - other TH-cam vids assume/start off with a pin-in-place and an open latch, which given my sitch, were not helpful. Saved me some bucks amigo, gracias!
TIP FOR OPENING LATCH - although the car runs on a 12 volt system, a regular 9 volt battery worked to pop my latch open. Just need two pieces insulated wire (maybe even paaper clips?) with both ends stripped- unplug the servo harness at the seat back as shown in video, insert one end of the two wires into the servo harness (headrest-side, top part of wiring, NOT supply/car power-side, bottom part of wiring) and touch the respective +/grnd leads to the 9v battery.
Thanks! My daughter just bought over her Dodge Journey with a deployed headrest… I’ll give your method of re-setting it a try!
THANK YOU, THANK, YOU THANK YOU!!!! Finally someone who truly understands all aspects of this problem and how to fix it! And special thanks for showing us how to re-trigger the little latch with the battery. (Mine had become locked again, too, during my initial troubleshooting when I didn't understand the problem.). Also, my metal rod had become lodged down inside the headrest and I was able to finally find it with a magnet, just like you said. Thank you for making and sharing this video! You are THE MAN!
How did you give electricity to the powerlatch ?
I have the same question. Don't understand how to unlock
Thanks so much for the great tips, I would not have found the steel pin for sure unless you said where to look and I used a small magnet taped to a screwdriver to retrieve it, and of course I dropped it another 3 times while attempting to reset it. Also , double checked the lock clip was ok before I played with it, but I did find out the black strap was interfering with me trying to latch it, so I moved it out of the way and finally reset. . Mine deployed when I hit a very hard pothole which surprisingly did not ruin the wheel or tire. thank you !
Update, I did have bent wheel !
Same thing happened to me! I didn't lose the pin out of my headrests, but I hit a pothole hard enough that it popped a tire and bent a wheel. Thankfully the wheel was able to be repaired. Oddly enough, I didn't even notice the headrests deployed until weeks later after I got the new tire mounted on the repaired wheel and put it back on the car. I must've had so much adrenaline from hitting the pothole that I didn't even notice the how far forward I was sitting!
@@cheesecake00222 I really had no idea what was going on, my head sprung forward , but it is a safety feature, luckily I got them both back, thanks to this video. Hope you are ok.
I wish I would have watched this video sooner. I replaced the headrest the first time it happened. So when it happened to the second one. I have been driving it like that because I couldn't find another one at the wrecking yard. Thank you very much and thumbs up at 400
Just fixed my headrest thanks to your video...I wasn't pushing downward and in I was simply trying to snap it back but was unsuccessful...thanks again
For those of you who also had you're pin pop out I had to place the pin in forward, then rotate the pin sideways and back into the slots for the pins to sit in. I used a pair of pliers to hold the pin and then fingers to move the pin around and pull backwards with the pliers into the slot.
Thank you. One of my pins fell out too and took a while to fish it out. Leaning the seat way back helped. Great video! Thanks for saving me a trip to the shop!
How did you get the pin back in place?
Just wanted to say thanks very much. After a bit of a fight they're both sorted. You've saved me a trip to the dealer and a few quid. Much appreciated!
Thank you. I read that this was dealer only. Some greedy liar. You did a fantastic job making this. All my questions were answered, honestly, and without delay.
Thank you for the thorough video! You went through all the points and made It clear of the issues we might run into and how to resolve them I wish all videos were like this.
My problem was that latch and I couldn't lock the headrest in thank you
Thanks for posting this. Very helpful giving instructions on how to open up the latch since I accidentally closed it.
Thank you so much!! Watching this video helped me fix my 2014 dodge caravan head rest! I didn’t even have to take off the back soo!’ That was awesome!!
Just fixed mine. Thanks for the video an actually showing us the steps with detail an clear voice!
Thank you a bunch got rear ended today and had to drive with the headrest deployed all day
Thank you. My wife's C300 Sport was rear-ended last week and I was trying to figure out how to fix this :)
Thank you do much.. You really helped me out. The trick was electric power to unlock the headrest lock .. 👌🏽 I missed that on the first headrest problem. 😘
THANK YOU! I would have never figured out how to reset the locks. Battery worked like a charm. The plastic retainers for the pin were broken so I will have to plastic weld them back. Do-able now that the hooks are reset.
I'd be interested to know if the plastic welding worked for you. Ours broke too.
I did plastic welding, epoxy glue and rigged up stiff wires to anchor the pin. Still had a problem getting it to latch into place. Put some WD40 on the pin and it latched. I think all the revisions reduced the tolerance and it needed some lubrication to slide into place. @@CaseyPhilson
thank you!! I’ve been driving around with both of my headrests bouncing around and creaking, thinking I needed a special tool that didn’t come with my car from another video I watched. Thanks to you - it turns out no tool was needed and I fixed it while following your video! I have a 2011 c300 that this worked perfectly for. Thanks again!!
Great video. saved me headache I have a deployed headrest that pin housing broke. Jeep dealer wants too much to fix
I had offended bender and my head rest popped up and my son called you up online and we did this thing that you told us to do and it worked thank you so much for showing us how to get out here hairdress back down without have to go to a car dealer do you
Thank you for your helpful video. I used a 9V battery to pop up the solenoid. Black wire to (-) and green wire to (+).
Hey, I’m trying to reset the clamps on mine as well. Can you elaborate a bit on how you used the battery? Did you have to use wires or something?
@@gigicruz7321 Yes I used a pair of Breadboard jumper wires (male to male). I inserted the two jumper wires inside the connector coming from the headrest to the 9v battery. I hope this helps 🤞
@@yaldoyousif so just stick one end of the wire into the yellow casing and one to the battery ?
Awesome that work to unlock the latch. I used a 9v and cut down a twisty tie for wire. Pushed wires into plug and tapped appropriate ends with battery and it unlatched. Awesome.
@@waynechen1983 That's great 😃 Glad it worked!
Thanks. Perfect instructions!! Thanks for discussing the pin and how to re-trigger the latch. Other videos did not discuss this and I locked the two fingers. All perfect now.
Charles Rutherford how did you re trigger?I can't figure it out
How did you re trigger the latch with the green and black wires?
About to attempt this by myself with my headrest. So with your great video I believe I shall have some success. Thanks
Hello, thank you For this video it helped a lot but I'm not a car person so when you say put the black wire to negative and the green to a 12 V battery would you be able to make a short video on that or explain more in depth in reply to this comment please? And a 12 V battery does, does that have to be a car battery or is there a different 12 V battery I can use because those wires are short and I don't know how I can connect them to each side of a car battery?
Thank you so much your video was amazingly helpful! Very quick fix and didn’t have to deal with the dealership
Best video ever. The only thing missing, where can you find 12 volts. Otherwise it happened to me to loose the pin, latch the hooks. All in one.
Thank you so much!!! You really helped us out, loved your video. VERY helpful!
Just fixed my 2014 jeep grand Cherokee I had to really use some strength and do the exact order that he said, but it did pop right into place. I have a small gap, but I think that I’ve always had that gap.
Thanks heaps. I'd worked out the mechanism but would not have figured the servo release. Great!!
Thank you! You saved me a lot of time (and probably money)! Great video.
Man thanks! Never could’ve fixed the ones on my 2014 C350
Thank you just reset my wife's Jeep Patroit...awesome.
The Pin! You just saved me about 2 hours. Thank you
How did you get the pin back in place?
Thanks man, great video, great explanation we did it. And down back and squeeze it. Thank you from all the reghens
Thanks so much man!!!! You really saved me money and time and made me proud I could fix it in my own
You fixed the issue to the end. Thanks
Very good video bro, thank a lot. BTW you can reset the plastic look with a scanner if you have one.
Thanks you great video! Just a small question what did you used to connect the wire into the 12V?
What did you use for 12v
Did you figure it out?
Thanks for the tip. FYI a 9volt battery will unlock it just fine. No need for messing with a car battery
That's great to know Jason thanks!
so you connected the wire from the back seat to the battery? did yiou have to cut the wires in the back to connect it to the battery ? Thanks
@@user-sl5xs7wf4m what did you end up doing to reset the latches? I can’t think of a way to do it.
How did you get the pin back in place? Please explain or make a video. Really appreciate it
58 dealership's disliked this video. Haha thanks for the video you saved me a lot of money
Yeah the news video with the lady in the dodge caravan with an estimated cost of $900, no thanks that's ridiculous
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Thanks, going to try it. I got rear
ended by small Honda Civic, both seat headrests popped, and it hit near my neck and back of head, cause all my pain. Wasn’t that hard but they popped.
Thanks for a really helpful video. My lat h had locked and just used a standard 9v battery to pop it back open.
Hi. Mine are latched but I don't understand how to use the battery
I’m not great with cars at all but I know you are using the battery. But what tool is it that you are using to stick into the yellow plug to unlock the head rest. Mine is locked and I have the yellow plug undone. But now sure what to use. Thanks!!
Thank You, Thank You, Thank You - you were right about those clamps on the back - mine were pushed back so with some needle nose pliers I pulled those forward and that did the trick!
It’s a very helpful video bro💯💯💯💯
Many thanks.. it worked easily and perfectly..
Thanks 👍 I leaned on mine and caused it to pop open
Дякую! Міцного здоров'я тобі друже !
Great info .....details are all about fixing these problems..#DIY...Thanks for info.
Thank you! Your video helped a great deal. Headrest reset
Thank you for posting this!
Sir you saved me 1800 dollars RESPECT
Nicely done, thanks for the info.
What do you mean when you say put the green to the negative and black to 12 volts? Sorry I’m new to this and don’t understand exactly how you do this
Didnt quite understand the servo green and black wire part..... could someone elaborate please. Thanks
You save us money and I sang the Holy Spirit that led me to your video it works thanks
God bless!
Great information. but the plastic that holds the pin on my headrest is broken. i wonder how much that is going to cost
How did you remove the back seat cover
Overall very good and helpful. Next time though, try not to block what u r doing at the final step. LOL. But xlint overall.
Thank you David your a life saver!
hi great information but i have a question, I accidently pulled the hook closed and need to have it opened to pull the headrest back , how did you disengage lock in the begining of video?
thank you for your video, it helped me today
Im having same problem .. tried few times to lock but like yiu said the pin stuck behind the head rest...Thank you so much.
How did you get the pin back in place?
Where can I buy the pin?
Dave. You're the MEN!!!!!!
you just save me a trip to the dealer thanks!
How did you get the pin back in place? Mine also fell out and I got it with a magnet but can’t get it back in place
Thank you so much my friend this is a awesome video... you help me a lot
Helped a lot!
It worked perfectly. Thank you.
Thank you for the explanation let me ask you something on the connection from the headrest there’s two little pins do you put the cable to one or both and connected to the positive side of the battery or the negative Or both
One pin is for the positive, and the other is for the negative, it shouldn't matter which is which. It is difficult because the pins are small, but DO NOT touch the positive and negative wires together! Only connect one pin to +12V, and the other pin to -12V power. As soon as you do that, the circuit is complete and the headrest will release.
David Groebl So I need to do this with two batteries
No, one pin is connected to the positive side of the battery, and the other pin is connected to the negative side of the battery.
David Groebl Thank you so so very much just one more question and I really hate bothering you so much does it matter what kind of cable you use to connect the pins to the battery
Not really no, your only going to keep the circuit connected for just a brief moment until the solenoid opens and released the headrest. Because of this, you can you small wires. 12 AWG speaker wire should be fine.
That fixed mine just pull in push down squeeze tight until you hear a click done
thank you for the your time this video was very helpful
Thank you, great helpful video!
Once you get it back together can you bypass this and keep the srs light off?
I wonder why that does that. Seems like it would catapult you forward into the window. I let my daughter drive the car I just got used and suddenly it is open. I guess I will see if my husband can fix it. Thank you for showing us. I hope we can get it back together.
Kimberly most likely to counteract the whiplash from the airbags
Dude, that is wicked helpful. Thank you for taking the time to do this!
Hello great vid was wonder how did you fix the other issue withe the light coming on
tazer220 actually I just plugged it back in and then the light went right off. Perhaps I might have needed to disconnect the battery for a few minutes to clear the code. Sorry I don’t remember that was several years ago now. I do remember that it was very easy. I’m pretty sure it just went off once I reconnected it and cycled the key on and off.
@@dgroebl thanks for help it really did help I'll try that
Hey David, how do you get the 12volt battery to release the latch? Do you connect a small piece of copper wire?
Thanks a lot! it worked like you said 😀
Thanks for great video great help
Thank you very much sir.i was struggling to reset it.i almost break it
Can I start the engine and drive the car without the headrest? It will not throw the airbag on?
I just got my fixed.! ty
The pin fell out on mine as well. Thanks for the vid man.
How did you put it back in? Seems it needs to be inserted from the front of the headrest and slid back into position
@@mafiaboy87did either of yall figure it out?
Worked on a 2015 MB E350 Wagon. Thanks.
what’s an example of putting the black to negative and green to 12 volts my latch is stuck in place
hi. hoping you can help me. how did you go about removing the plastic back panel of the seat to access the servo to reset?
Hello. Your video is very good. Would you make another one how did you exactly wire the black to negative and green wire to 12 volt. I've tried but I don't understand why it didn't release the head rest. I'd appreciate it if you let me know when that video is made. Thank you
As suggested by Jason Dube in the comments. You can actually just use a 9V battery. If your headrest did not release I'd expect it's because you did not make a complete circuit. Either you were not connected to both the positive & negative sides of the battery, or you did not touch both metal contacts inside the headrest plug. Keep in mind all, four of those connections need to happen at the same time to complete the circuit. Using paper clips will help you reach the metal contacts inside the headrest plug.
Just did this but the SR5 light is still on? Did I have to keep the plug plugged when you put the headrest back in place? I had it plugged and just put the pin back and clamped it back down and it stayed in place. But my light is still on for some reason
Did you find a way to clear the Srs light? I'm trying to find a solution without a scanner.
The black plastic that holds my pin broke on one side, the other looks like it'll break soon...
Same for me. Have you found a remedy?
@@CaseyPhilson full replacement for free by your local Dodge dealer. It's the only way. Unless you want to get a shady scrapyard part.
Basically it's under recall still. Schedule it and be done with it.
David, did you actually use a car battery for this or will a regular small 12v A23 battery work?Thanks very helpful instructions.
I actually used a 2nd car battery that I had in my garage. I bet a little A23 battery would work though. It really shouldn't take much power to fire the solenoid. Another option would be to just use the battery from the car. You could leave it in place, no need to even disconnect it. Just use some speak wire or something to make a long cord running to the seat.
Thanks David....worked like a charm.
David Groebl thank you so much for this helpful info but it's still not opening. I tried the car battery and the 12v. Nothing
Great video but my problem is that I can't get the metal pin back in place (now that I finally fished it out from the bottom of the headrest lol). How do you get that metal pin back in where it belongs ??? Thanks for the help!
Did you ever figure this out? I am trying to figure this out myself
What wires are you talking about to fire back with the 12volt?
same question