@@EnterTheFenix He didn't die, he just went back into the warp. Tzeentch wouldn't let a guy like that die. Even if he did die? Tzeentch will just bring him back for fun.
Damn, what a down to earth, competent, civil, smart and humble director. I gained a new level of appreciation for this game and company. Congrats to the whole team.
This guy clearly loves 40k. As one of several hundreds of new fans, I just want to say thanks for giving us a great first entry into the 40k universe And a damn good game too with no BS
Yeah, you can really tell he wants to do right by long time 40k fans while making It accessible and fun for new fans. Just the line "I mean, it's 40k! Everyone's having a shitty time!" Shows he knows what's up 😂
if this is your first 40K game there are others i could suggest depending upon the type of game you enjoy. Dawn of War 1 and 2 are good RTS games and hold up well, i wasn't a fan of DOW3. 2018 Deathwing is an ok FPS if you've got some mates to play with. Dartktide is a competent hack and slash FPS, it has its ups and down though. If you don't mind the visual downgrade Space Marine 1 is still a solid third person shooter, in some ways it is better than Space Marine 2.
@@aragornarathorn3299 That is "No man´s land" from Space Marine 1. If you search for Space Marine 1 OST you will find perhaps the greatest gaming music ever made. Every track for that game is amazing, I can recommend the final track "A Heroes Legacy". It is so damn good. edit* Ah well here you go! :D th-cam.com/video/2v4kaE_XbR8/w-d-xo.html
it would flip the mechanics so much, Necrons wipe the floor with space marines under most circumstances lore wise. 1 Necron would give the 3 marines in co-op a lot of trouble. But say 4 Necrons would destroy Titus and his 2 buddies. So I'm not sure how they could incorporate that
@@spankosaurus Though probably not good in terms of game design if we were to follow the lore. Even currently seeing like 3 guardsmen pepper and kill a tyranid warrior or killing lictors left and right in coop is hilarious as it is so it probably would have it's own gimmick but still feel like a power fantasy that perhaps aren't exactly following the lore. That said I'd pay not to play as Titus Blueberry and his smurf friends lol.
Bring back the Orks or even another chaos faction. They’d work better given how hoards are a core part of the game. Somehow I just don’t see the more tech advanced xenos like the Necrons or Eldar just throwing themselves at you thousands at a time the way Orks or Bugs would.
There is no video game you can name where LITERAL thousands of enemies throw themselves at you on screen at one time. Impossible to achieve without massive frame drops, stuttering, or game crashes 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Resident_Nightlord As a money hater, and an ork fan, I'd like to see them. But, I'd also like to show the 'greater good' is on my side of a bolter. Cause T'au get no love. Although, im not sure how you'd shoehorn T'au in. ORKS IT IZ DEN BOYZ
Oliver seems the right guy in the right place. You can see he really respects the lore and audience. I see a bright future for Sabre if they can keep up the quality.
They really nailed the sizing of space marine armor , even better than GW has done for their own armor in things like Tithes and other 3d animations theyve done. thats one super important thing is how they armor looks and feels in game most people get space marine armor wrong by making the boots comically oversized in comparison to the size of the thighs
Did they nail it? If that's true, why is a primaris the same size or smaller than a rubric marine? Primaris are a foot or two taller than first born, and rubric are definitely first born. That seems like a massive glaring oversight for something that's being praised for attention to detail in sizing.
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 nitpicking lore bits like this does no one any favors, i'd rather you complain about the lack of chapter heraldry, as in co-op, we're all just ultramarines cosplaying as other chapters
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 You act like GW themselves inconsistent with their own lore theyve pretty much done away with the primaris sizing thing look at the new sternguard vets they arent considered primaris and hell inquisitor coteaz is the same size as a primaris lol the reason the heretics are that size is because it makes sense from a gameplay perspective
My bet is its gonna be the genestealer, its wild that they arent already in, i doubt they'll come with a cult tho; an entire mission about sweeping an underhive of cultists sounds fun
They did almost everything right with this single release. Even the amount of bugs are practically non-existent and i have enough of one hand to name them. The game itself is just pure quality and love towards the fans and the Warhammer 40K franchise. The best video game release i have seen in many years and i love it!
Yeah, but we really need those helmets. GW are stupid for forcing the primaris only look when mark 7 is literally in the game and looks cool as hell with the templar cross on it
Warhammer 40K fans are some of the most passionate fans in the world for any franchise that exists but these guys did everything right and literally even took a deep dive in the universe they decided to work on and completely submersed themselves into another world to the point of obsession. The result was what i consider to to be game of the year thus far. They have showed everyone that making a nearly-flawless game is possible and pays off and they have even proved to Games Workshop that the fans were right. We love Warhammer 40K, we want MORE of Warhammer 40K but it has to be done right!
@@anonprada203 If you think about it, enough shenanigans happen at Trazyns place that you could make a story pretty easily out of escaping it, not to mention get an opportunity to interact with members of every faction in the setting.
If you had the apothecary he could get 100% bonus from stims, also if he picks the stims up he can heal players with 100% more effectiveness, thus people need to manage items.
I think sniper as is should be split into a scout class and a sniper class. As he is now he either sits in the back and one taps you or appears out of nowhere and grenades you. Every other class fits one role, sniper is the only class that can deviate so much I think they should just make it into two separate classes lol
@@Adrastium definitely would love a Terminator armored Marine, but there 3 problems to keep it simple. First the Primaris doesn't have a Terminator armor currently, there definitely could be one coming tho. Second the Terminators would be a can of worms themselves cause there's different patterns and "classes" they serve, which would be melee which would be thunder hammer, power claw, power first and shield. Ranged which would be anything from a storm bolter to a auto cannon and lastly the missile equiped which let call em arty, which they could be either. Last problem is how slow and tanky Terminators are, keep in mind Terminator armor is heavier and more protective, but it has it's problems as there's only 3 or 4 canon character that can run in it. There's been also moments in books where the weight gets in the way of the marine like falling through a floor. So I doubt we'll see them in the game.
Excellent questions by the interviewer, and excellent responses from the director. Hats off to them for making a brilliant sequel to SM1 and, especially after this interview, I'm very much looking forwards to seeing where they go with SM2.
Please add a librarian! It is the most unique between apothecary, chaplain, and tech marine! They could have psychic powers in place of grenades, as well as the obvious psychic ultimate ability. Maybe even psychic staves
@@paytonkraft7564 oh man, how much do I want Genestealer Cult in this game!!! As a new faction they would be amazing and add so much, theyre a really nice close link to Tyranids aswell!!!!
The Tyranid invasion is underway, so Genestealers would already be getting devoured along with the population. I wanna see more Tyranid units, Deathleapers, Winged Primes, Tyrant Guards, Swarm Lord, Norns, etc
I doubt he will see this but one thing I thought would be cool and isn’t that big of a change is team executions, imagine downing a boss and all the boys climb on it to rip it apart or duel take downs like from the short animation, one space marine knocks the enemy down with a haymaker and your duo uses a rifle or pistol to finish it. I think the executions are probably the best part of the combat I really hope we get more animations for em
^^^ btw i know everyone constantly team executing could sound op since everyone gets shield and to remedy that make it so you can only team takedown when both people are completely out of shields or make it damage based if both players do a certain amount of damage to an enemy it should credit both of them the ability to initiate a team takedown I think it would turn big fights into a spectacle for the boys
My guess for the "new enemy", if it's Tyranids, is a Screamer Killer. If it's Chaos/Thousand Sons, then a Vortex beast or some kind of minor daemon. Even though Oliver didn't clarify, given his response that it will "definitely not be just a hormagaunt with a gun" makes me think it'll be a boss/majoris type enemy.
@@cnut7383 why does it have to compare? He just said it's new, not chaff, and you need to change up tactics. I mean sure, it could be a Hierophant but that doesn't seem likely.
@Green_Phos i was just asking what the difference is. i thought screamer killers were similar to carnifex. maybe they could act as a large regular enemy, we have gaunts and warriors, something bigger but not quite boss level could be cool variety.
@@cnut7383 no worries, I understand. Yeah, the screamer killer fills that boss-but-not-quite role nicely. It's close in size, bigger than the lictor but smaller than the carnifex so I'd be surprised if they made it a full on boss battle but it's def a majoris enemy. If you look up the trailer for 10th edition 40k they have a screamer killer in that to give you some idea of nasty it is. Plus it's one of the original "big bad" monsters from old school editions of 40k. It's been around as long as Tyranids have. edit: here's the trailer I was talking about... th-cam.com/video/X98ImCbhjnI/w-d-xo.html the screamer killer comes in at 1:32
What some people really don’t understand about the tyrannids is that in the story. It was just a splinter fleet it’s not even the literal fleet of leviathan. So assuming like the director said that the tyrannids are magically gone is blasphemy because again the main fleet is not even present lol
plus you kill off that splitter fleets Norn Queen in like the very first non tutorial mission, so the head was already cut off and the fleet lost its ability to replace its higher level synaptic bioforms within 3 or 4 days of the invasion starting XD
When did you kill the queen? You kill the tyrant later which gives relief to the ground forces. If the queen dies, the tyrant would not have a synaps as would all the others
@@Cannon6969 Norn queen are the source of the fleets hive mind or if you want the longer version, when the Norn queen of a hive fleet is killed it sends out a psychic death scream that triggers the start of a process that mutates the largest remaining bioships into new Norn Queen which will break away forming splinter fleets aka the one big bioship we kill with the ground plasma cannons is the Norn Queen
This game is hands down game of the year for me. I don’t recall a game that has released in the last few years that is this good. I would love to see Necrons added, and I would also really love to play as a Chaplain! Their armor is so badass
there are Necron ruins and artifacts in the game, its not unreasonable to be disappointing by their lack. Its obvious some parts of the game was rushed... so few Operations missions and so few multiplayer maps?. Some Single player defensive missions being nearly impossible on Angel of Death difficulty with AI and without player coop.
ywah l felt very blue balled by not being able to fight them and the data slate that mentions being stalked by something "tombstalker" or possibly a "wraith" like holy fuck l wanted to fight one so bad
@@LordAKiraAndouwoulda been a waste just keep it for the next game lol y’all crying about Necron just b happy that a tomb world appeared and we got some deactivated ones we got to see. Hopefully it’s a tease for next game but yall so impatient and want it now rather than waiting for a sequel it’s like y’all don’t want multiple games let alone a good story 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@LordAKiraAndoudon’t get me wrong the game was mad boring until it starts backtracking and showing continuity to the first game then I got pulled back into the story. Boss fight wasn’t as good as the first games boss fight tho
I would love if the bots would default to using whatever customization you've done for the class that the bot uses. the fact that you lose out on team perks and so much fire power makes playing with bots on higher difficulties a real slog. It would also incentivize people to level up all the classes so that whichever bot they end up with is capable of pulling its own weight.
I'll admit it. I was cheering in my chair for a number of scenes in the campaign. I think the main one being the banner stand mission. We've all seen Banner stands depicted in artwork, in the novels, the sense of pure unrelenting determination to stand your ground and survive was captured damn near perfectly within that mission. It legitimately gave me Crimson Fist vibes in many ways, and sent chills down my spine well after the mission ended. So I thank Saber and Oliver for giving us something many of us have been wanting to see outside the pages of a novel or just static artwork.
For real! When he said about people complaining about adding a helmet for lore reasons I'm just thinking BS, literally no one would complain about it harming the lore when the whole thing about 40k is customisation. I have a whole army of primaris with mark 7 helmets. Just like firstborn, why wouldn't primaris add older marks over time? As relics or salvaged pieces, or just heirlooms, etc. We all want these things and the game will suffer long term if they don't leave us with what we want by the end of it all. SM1 will live longer, I'm calling it now. Don't even get me started on chaos customisation, and the excuses they gave behind that. The game is great, but still rushed and lacking in areas, THAT THEY REFUSE TO FIX FOR US. So I'm a bit disheartened, even if it's the only game I've played the past 20 days
@TurbanCatMccoy There's constructive criticism and then there's unnecessary rage disguised as constructed criticism. You do realize this game had like at most 4-5 years of development right? Most good games usually have around 7-8 years of development, don't forget the fact that they had to come up with a completely new story with nothing to go off of except for the ending of the 1st game. There are a lot of shitty and scummy game companies but I don't think Saber Interactive is one of them and I don't think they deserve this anger. (Also the game hasn't even been out for a full month yet man cut them some slack)
Tbh having an exalted sorcerer boss that was more about demon summoning, spawning waves of horrors, flamer flocks, and some screamers. Probably a thousand sons equivalent of the hive tyrant in decapitation. A big fight at the end of the level.
I think a good idea would be to reuse the pre Primaris Titus assets from the beginning of the game. And try to depict snapshots from his exile in the death watch. Would be interesting
Not happening, not gonna work, wouldn't make sense. Stop suggesting crazy ideas that are impossible, you're just confusing the poor devs who have limited time and resources, when we really NEED expansions in customisation and basic operations
@TurbanCatMccoy you know thats what he was basically saying. new deathwatch cosmetics(which are already in the game) and operations related to that. just more stuff like the first mission.
After just listening to 5 minutes, You get the Feeling that the Creators are Pure Lovers of what they do! AND Hearing about the Collaboration and Input that came from Games-Workshop is EXACTLY How to work Together to Achieve the Fantastic Feeling as the Game give me as a Warhammer 40K Fan and Avid Gamer since the beginning of the 90s! The Kid inside me is Screaming with Pure Joy when I listen to this Conversation! Hearing This all makes me VERY HAPPY! Both as a Fan AND as an Indie Game developer!
Chaplain and Librarian are definitely both desirable. That said, while, watching this, it may be outside of their constraints, I'd love to see Eldar featured outside of an rts. Given the Ultramarines are the protagonists and Chaos one of the antagonists, Yvraine's crew might be a good fit for an expansion. I suppose that depends a lot on GW and how they wish the lore to flow during the present time. That said, it definitely seems like a Striking Scorpion would be crazy fun and a decent fit for the style.
My problem is GW is being pedantic with the armor customization. In the newest lore and even old Spacemarines either firstborn or Primaris can wear the older suits of power armor. Marks 2-8 are all still usable. The chapters hold on to these ancient suits and still use them in combat because of the effectiveness and legacy they hold. Wearing the old armor is an honor. Yes you wouldn’t be able to mix all the armor together nor should you but the old armor have no lore reasons preventing them from being a full body armor preset like the champion armor’s already in game and the chaos armor. Primaris armor can use the Mk.7/8 Aquila and the Mk.6/10 Corvus helmets in the tabletop in official box sets. Nothing fan made about it, as official as it gets. Lens customization is also a needed thing. Many chapters canonically use different lens colors like the salamander who use yellow. It’s in games workshops animations they produce even.
Gw doesn't do this for lore reasons, they do it to "force people to like" the primaris models and buy the new boxes they don't want people buying old boxes with old armor
@@ΩΜΣΔ Or you can have both ? The Primaris Helmet is inspired by a older Power Armor Version. I dont see any resone why there shoudlnt be more versions of Helmets etc. ANd People have more options for there Marines.
This game is so good! Sadly i have only been able to play the campaign trough a friend, waiting for the game to come on sale and then i will certainly join the fray! Such a work of art, i truly love what Saber did with Space Marine 2, One word: Exceptional.
Honestly, this game is fantastic. They have done such a great job setting a foundation for this game. Their is so much potential to make it even greater. Thanks for the fantastic game.
This is a great interview! It answered some of the burning questions I had. I hope the next chapter of Titus is an expansion and not a Space Marines 3 tbh.
All of this is awesome, but would like to see more helmets with hoods(for bulwark), and definitely color the robes, more colored lenses and customization for the lenses on most helmets, all that would be amazing. Otherwise, no complaints, very happy with what we have now, thanks for all the hard work❤❤
Those ladies and gentlemen did an awesome job in immersing in the lore and the models. It was a great investment doing that, you made a perfect game. First game in a long time which gave me chills! Thank you.
I would love to see Space Marine installments in the future branch out to follow protagonists from other popular chapters I.E. Space Wolf, Salamander, Blood Angels, etc….
Class Ideas! Chaplain and Dark Apostle (Word Bearer) Class, slightly squishier than a bulwark + no shield, they'll be slower in melee, but their inspiration does an area of affect that buffs ally damage slightly. Weapons would be an Crozius or power fist, and pistol weapons. Librarian and Sorcerer Class (Thousand Sons), weird analogy, but they'll be like a range assault. In order to use their powers they have to be elevated in the air. They are not extremely high up like an assault, but you can see them from a group of space marines. They could have 2 powers, a damage over time light continuous attack that maybe chains with near by enemies and a damage dealing single target attack with a cool down. Weapons include a (force) power sword, Force staff, and pistol weapons. Helix Adept and a Consortium (Emperor's Children), phobos armor, squishy, heals more than a bulwark, healing is individual rather than area of effect like bulwark + no shield like a bulwark. Has normal phobos weapons, no swords just knife. I feel like these could help and add some interesting options, is true to the lore, and doesn't out class or out shine the other 6 classes
I know it’s a Space Marine game, but I’m brand new into Warhammer and have been building an Adepta Sororitas army and I’d really love to be able to play as or just with them in the game.
There is a data slate in the last mission of a wraith being awakened and stalking the mechanicus. Even if we dont get a full necron release, at least a mission with that awakened wraith would be great
I had no doubt Blood Ravens would be a chapter available to customize as, was super happy the second I realized I could out of the gate customize my magpie. as a Necron main I was beyond excited going through the ruins but I really wish there was at least a small section of warriors coming up you had to deal with. I could easily see them adding pink horrors, blue horrors, etc. I think a wonderful mode would be a Space Hulk which could also allow for randomized titlesets but I think that is beyond the scope of what they'll do for the game. Maybe SM3 will have a wider scope. I'd love to see a beaky helmet option and also something around the idea of a Sternguard Veteran that allows some of that classic look (helmet specifically)
Mainly hope to see better heretic customization, more freedom for decal placement and of course helmet mark options. On classes the rumors about an apothecary really get me excited and I hope there is a chance for a tech marine class.
I'd love a Space Marine 2 like videogame with Space Marines vs Necrons. Necrons are easily my favorite faction but Orks would be a blast also. I hope Saber can keep this momentum going. I'm all aboard the 40k hype train!
Now I know why the game came out as good as it did. Great developer, level-headed and pragmatic. Respects the franchise and doesn't compromise when it comes to quality. All of what we need a developer to be. Cant wait to see whats coming to the game from now on.
I'm really liking the fact that this guy is genuinely aware of cosmetic things due to his own experience painting and collecting figures himself. I'm a new fan, but would honestly love it if they chose to be more freeing with the customisation. Can only ask for so much tho, don't want to spoil the lore as that's one of the reasons I'm beginning to become addicted to the 40k universe
As someone who’s known of warhammer but has never dived into it I’m super happy for the fans of the universe that this guy and his team are taking it super seriously and not using the ip for their own agenda
I hope we get Von Ryan Leapers as Majoris enemies, as well as a Malaceptor Extremis enemy. It'd be cool to down a Mutalith Vortex Beast in an Operation as an Extremis keystone fight similar to the Hive Tyrant battle, with a Chaos Sorcerer blasting away from on top of or behind it.
When we were getting close to the end of the game I thought Necrons were going to show up, when they didn't show I thought maybe we'd be fighting Necrons and Death Guard in Space Marine 3, in a later update would be absolutely amazing.
I always love seeing a director who's clearly passionate about what he's working with. Compare this man with a Blizzard Dev interview like Aaron Keller (Overwatch 2) and the difference is huge.
Having a hard time thinking they would add a chaplain since they usually only have one in a chapter or one in a company. I think librarians and apothecaries are more numerous and likely to be the next class
Sorry, I've got some hearing problems and the combination of loud music and not the best microphone-quality - I've got some troubles understanding some passages.
Don't bother apologizing. 'Well played' is a company channel. They paid for the interview. Don't bother giving them advice. They have a team that did not check audio. Nobody responds to messages because it's a faceless company. Read the channel description. There are no humans here, only memberships you can pay for.
@Wellplayed Want them to allow multiple of the same class to be played in operations because it's such a pain in trying to level a certain class when everyone is trying to play it all the time like Bulwark
There is going to be a private lobby setup so you can coordinate with friends. Personally though I deal with this by leveling both Bulwark and Sniper. There are the occasions both of them used but most of the time I'm able to use one of em
@@randomisaac5959 I main heavy. I've maxed out heavy and all weapons / perks / weapon perks but all I main is heavy that's my build and the only build I will use.
@@randomisaac5959 I'm more so speaking for those who only want to play a certain class or are struggiling to find a lobby to level that class of choice.
I love this game it’s been like a light in the dark for me ik it’s got its problems but I really love this game it brought back some of the joy I had back in my childhood
The game has so much potential for expansion. Imagine playing Librarians, Chaplains or Techmarines. Imagine a Chaos campaign! Or mass PvP with (I know I'm dreaming) a DUELING system. I so want this game to grow
This director is the definition of the "he understood the assignment" meme. Awesome lad.
The final mission of this game is up there with the greatest of all time. They literally blew their load in the best possible way
So good that the main antagonist dies in a cutscene...
@@EnterTheFenix He didn't die though right? His soul went back to Tzeentch to get punished for failing.
@@EnterTheFenix He's a demon, he can't die.
I blew my load in the final mission.
@@EnterTheFenix He didn't die, he just went back into the warp. Tzeentch wouldn't let a guy like that die. Even if he did die? Tzeentch will just bring him back for fun.
Damn, what a down to earth, competent, civil, smart and humble director. I gained a new level of appreciation for this game and company. Congrats to the whole team.
“It’s not just a Tzaangor with a gun, right?”
(Oliver sweating as he looks over his notes all saying 20 Tzaangors)
😂😂😂😂
Oops! All tzaangors!
This guy clearly loves 40k.
As one of several hundreds of new fans, I just want to say thanks for giving us a great first entry into the 40k universe
And a damn good game too with no BS
Glad to see this got you into warhammer. Such an amazing time honestly, so much interesting shit to delve into
Yeah, you can really tell he wants to do right by long time 40k fans while making
It accessible and fun for new fans.
Just the line "I mean, it's 40k! Everyone's having a shitty time!" Shows he knows what's up 😂
welcome brother love to see new people!
if this is your first 40K game there are others i could suggest depending upon the type of game you enjoy. Dawn of War 1 and 2 are good RTS games and hold up well, i wasn't a fan of DOW3. 2018 Deathwing is an ok FPS if you've got some mates to play with. Dartktide is a competent hack and slash FPS, it has its ups and down though. If you don't mind the visual downgrade Space Marine 1 is still a solid third person shooter, in some ways it is better than Space Marine 2.
If you enjoy this, you may wanna try Darktide. It’s also a lot of fun.
I love the video, but try to tone down the music in the background. At times, I couldn’t focus on what the director was saying
You are dead right, I clearly missed a couple tracks when I did the background audio pass - Thanks for the feedback!
@@AshWayling No problem mate, just one thing I noticed but loved everything else about the video! Keep up the phenomenal work
speaking of music, anyone know the name of the soundtrack that starts at 13:20?
@@aragornarathorn3299 That is "No man´s land" from Space Marine 1. If you search for Space Marine 1 OST you will find perhaps the greatest gaming music ever made. Every track for that game is amazing, I can recommend the final track "A Heroes Legacy". It is so damn good.
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Ah well here you go! :D
th-cam.com/video/2v4kaE_XbR8/w-d-xo.html
Someone tell me how someone with under2k subs gets an interview like this? asking for my own channel haha.
Yes, definitely add Necrons. As someone who played them on the tabletop, I would love to fight them in a video game like Space Marine 2.
it would flip the mechanics so much, Necrons wipe the floor with space marines under most circumstances lore wise. 1 Necron would give the 3 marines in co-op a lot of trouble. But say 4 Necrons would destroy Titus and his 2 buddies. So I'm not sure how they could incorporate that
@@spankosaurus Though probably not good in terms of game design if we were to follow the lore. Even currently seeing like 3 guardsmen pepper and kill a tyranid warrior or killing lictors left and right in coop is hilarious as it is so it probably would have it's own gimmick but still feel like a power fantasy that perhaps aren't exactly following the lore.
That said I'd pay not to play as Titus Blueberry and his smurf friends lol.
Bring back the Orks or even another chaos faction. They’d work better given how hoards are a core part of the game.
Somehow I just don’t see the more tech advanced xenos like the Necrons or Eldar just throwing themselves at you thousands at a time the way Orks or Bugs would.
There is no video game you can name where LITERAL thousands of enemies throw themselves at you on screen at one time. Impossible to achieve without massive frame drops, stuttering, or game crashes 😂😂😂😂😂
@@Resident_Nightlord As a money hater, and an ork fan, I'd like to see them. But, I'd also like to show the 'greater good' is on my side of a bolter. Cause T'au get no love. Although, im not sure how you'd shoehorn T'au in. ORKS IT IZ DEN BOYZ
Oliver seems the right guy in the right place. You can see he really respects the lore and audience. I see a bright future for Sabre if they can keep up the quality.
They really nailed the sizing of space marine armor , even better than GW has done for their own armor in things like Tithes and other 3d animations theyve done. thats one super important thing is how they armor looks and feels in game most people get space marine armor wrong by making the boots comically oversized in comparison to the size of the thighs
Did they nail it? If that's true, why is a primaris the same size or smaller than a rubric marine? Primaris are a foot or two taller than first born, and rubric are definitely first born. That seems like a massive glaring oversight for something that's being praised for attention to detail in sizing.
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 very easily its because of the hit Box in Game and btw rubic marines can easily make themself taller there fucking dust after all
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 nitpicking lore bits like this does no one any favors, i'd rather you complain about the lack of chapter heraldry, as in co-op, we're all just ultramarines cosplaying as other chapters
@@shadowsketch926 the bulwark is a dark angel cosplaying as others lol.
@@elyrienvalkyr8167 You act like GW themselves inconsistent with their own lore theyve pretty much done away with the primaris sizing thing look at the new sternguard vets they arent considered primaris and hell inquisitor coteaz is the same size as a primaris lol the reason the heretics are that size is because it makes sense from a gameplay perspective
My bet is its gonna be the genestealer, its wild that they arent already in, i doubt they'll come with a cult tho; an entire mission about sweeping an underhive of cultists sounds fun
This
I wouldn’t mind a space hulk type mission
They did almost everything right with this single release. Even the amount of bugs are practically non-existent and i have enough of one hand to name them. The game itself is just pure quality and love towards the fans and the Warhammer 40K franchise. The best video game release i have seen in many years and i love it!
Yeah, but we really need those helmets. GW are stupid for forcing the primaris only look when mark 7 is literally in the game and looks cool as hell with the templar cross on it
If they do this with the show, it will be bigger that GoT.
Just care about the fans… That’s it.
I already loved the game, but the passion behind it and your passion during this interview really pushed it to a new level. Bravo!
Warhammer 40K fans are some of the most passionate fans in the world for any franchise that exists but these guys did everything right and literally even took a deep dive in the universe they decided to work on and completely submersed themselves into another world to the point of obsession. The result was what i consider to to be game of the year thus far. They have showed everyone that making a nearly-flawless game is possible and pays off and they have even proved to Games Workshop that the fans were right. We love Warhammer 40K, we want MORE of Warhammer 40K but it has to be done right!
Considering we will now face the necrons and how unique Titus is, I hope Trazyn notice him and attempt to "collect" Titus for his museum
Either he dies fighting a daemon primarch or he gets his own dreadnought
If Trazyn made an appearance, there will never be a Spacemarine 3😂
@@anonprada203 If you think about it, enough shenanigans happen at Trazyns place that you could make a story pretty easily out of escaping it, not to mention get an opportunity to interact with members of every faction in the setting.
Sorry, but where was this confirmed?
@@anonprada203 Nah, it just takes place in the 42nd millenium
this is my first entry warhammer 40k experience and man i am happy that the community is so incredibly passionate for such a badass universe
The 3 classes I honestly hope they can add in the future are librarians, Chaplin, and tech marines
What about apothecary too? I mean give me librarian and I'm happy but I think having apothecary in the mix would be interesting too.
If you had the apothecary he could get 100% bonus from stims, also if he picks the stims up he can heal players with 100% more effectiveness, thus people need to manage items.
Maybe there could be a Terminator too. the Traitors have theirs so we would have our own. Just a Suggestion.
I think sniper as is should be split into a scout class and a sniper class. As he is now he either sits in the back and one taps you or appears out of nowhere and grenades you. Every other class fits one role, sniper is the only class that can deviate so much I think they should just make it into two separate classes lol
@@Adrastium definitely would love a Terminator armored Marine, but there 3 problems to keep it simple. First the Primaris doesn't have a Terminator armor currently, there definitely could be one coming tho. Second the Terminators would be a can of worms themselves cause there's different patterns and "classes" they serve, which would be melee which would be thunder hammer, power claw, power first and shield. Ranged which would be anything from a storm bolter to a auto cannon and lastly the missile equiped which let call em arty, which they could be either. Last problem is how slow and tanky Terminators are, keep in mind Terminator armor is heavier and more protective, but it has it's problems as there's only 3 or 4 canon character that can run in it. There's been also moments in books where the weight gets in the way of the marine like falling through a floor. So I doubt we'll see them in the game.
Excellent questions by the interviewer, and excellent responses from the director. Hats off to them for making a brilliant sequel to SM1 and, especially after this interview, I'm very much looking forwards to seeing where they go with SM2.
Please add a librarian! It is the most unique between apothecary, chaplain, and tech marine! They could have psychic powers in place of grenades, as well as the obvious psychic ultimate ability. Maybe even psychic staves
Especially since weve gotten to see it in both games now
dont give them guns, just let their gun slot be a psychic power slot, same with secondary gun
@@brightestlight9462 swappable psychic power primary, pistol (inferno pistol??) secondary.
Tech marine nah I feel like we need a Terminator instead 😂
Would also be the most logical because they already have the Chaos variant ingame (Thousand Sons Sorcerer)
A genestealer would be cool as a new enemy
Agreed. That could also tie into a whole new scenario for the Operations mode. Example: Genestealer cult infestation.
Space Hulk'ish horror operations?
I'm all for it!
@@RazorbackX99 Feel like that's an obvious choice for a new multiplayer mode down the line.
@@paytonkraft7564 oh man, how much do I want Genestealer Cult in this game!!! As a new faction they would be amazing and add so much, theyre a really nice close link to Tyranids aswell!!!!
The Tyranid invasion is underway, so Genestealers would already be getting devoured along with the population.
I wanna see more Tyranid units, Deathleapers, Winged Primes, Tyrant Guards, Swarm Lord, Norns, etc
I doubt he will see this but one thing I thought would be cool and isn’t that big of a change is team executions, imagine downing a boss and all the boys climb on it to rip it apart or duel take downs like from the short animation, one space marine knocks the enemy down with a haymaker and your duo uses a rifle or pistol to finish it. I think the executions are probably the best part of the combat I really hope we get more animations for em
^^^ btw i know everyone constantly team executing could sound op since everyone gets shield and to remedy that make it so you can only team takedown when both people are completely out of shields or make it damage based if both players do a certain amount of damage to an enemy it should credit both of them the ability to initiate a team takedown I think it would turn big fights into a spectacle for the boys
Cool idea
Oliver is all class, the team is so passionate and capable, and the game came out gloriously. Awesome interview!
My guess for the "new enemy", if it's Tyranids, is a Screamer Killer. If it's Chaos/Thousand Sons, then a Vortex beast or some kind of minor daemon. Even though Oliver didn't clarify, given his response that it will "definitely not be just a hormagaunt with a gun" makes me think it'll be a boss/majoris type enemy.
how does a screamer killer compare to a carnifex?
Pretty similar in terms of scale.
@@cnut7383 why does it have to compare? He just said it's new, not chaff, and you need to change up tactics. I mean sure, it could be a Hierophant but that doesn't seem likely.
@Green_Phos i was just asking what the difference is. i thought screamer killers were similar to carnifex. maybe they could act as a large regular enemy, we have gaunts and warriors, something bigger but not quite boss level could be cool variety.
@@cnut7383 no worries, I understand. Yeah, the screamer killer fills that boss-but-not-quite role nicely. It's close in size, bigger than the lictor but smaller than the carnifex so I'd be surprised if they made it a full on boss battle but it's def a majoris enemy. If you look up the trailer for 10th edition 40k they have a screamer killer in that to give you some idea of nasty it is. Plus it's one of the original "big bad" monsters from old school editions of 40k. It's been around as long as Tyranids have.
edit: here's the trailer I was talking about...
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the screamer killer comes in at 1:32
So nice to see how genuine the devs are and how much they love 40k
What some people really don’t understand about the tyrannids is that in the story. It was just a splinter fleet it’s not even the literal fleet of leviathan. So assuming like the director said that the tyrannids are magically gone is blasphemy because again the main fleet is not even present lol
plus you kill off that splitter fleets Norn Queen in like the very first non tutorial mission, so the head was already cut off and the fleet lost its ability to replace its higher level synaptic bioforms within 3 or 4 days of the invasion starting XD
When did you kill the queen? You kill the tyrant later which gives relief to the ground forces. If the queen dies, the tyrant would not have a synaps as would all the others
@@mercurioslevin1877No we don’t? There isn’t even a Norn Queen mentioned? Did we even play the same game?
@@Cannon6969 Norn queen are the source of the fleets hive mind or if you want the longer version, when the Norn queen of a hive fleet is killed it sends out a psychic death scream that triggers the start of a process that mutates the largest remaining bioships into new Norn Queen which will break away forming splinter fleets aka the one big bioship we kill with the ground plasma cannons is the Norn Queen
Feel like you missed an opportunity to ask about chaos customization, each class's should get more customization options for their legion!
Extremely well coordinated interview, great questions and good vibes!
Thanks Oliver for giving us such an awesome game.
Also submitted for mk8 helmets on the ideas page, hopefully one day brothers.
This game is hands down game of the year for me. I don’t recall a game that has released in the last few years that is this good. I would love to see Necrons added, and I would also really love to play as a Chaplain! Their armor is so badass
there are Necron ruins and artifacts in the game, its not unreasonable to be disappointing by their lack. Its obvious some parts of the game was rushed... so few Operations missions and so few multiplayer maps?.
Some Single player defensive missions being nearly impossible on Angel of Death difficulty with AI and without player coop.
ywah l felt very blue balled by not being able to fight them and the data slate that mentions being stalked by something "tombstalker" or possibly a "wraith" like holy fuck l wanted to fight one so bad
@@LordAKiraAndouwoulda been a waste just keep it for the next game lol y’all crying about Necron just b happy that a tomb world appeared and we got some deactivated ones we got to see. Hopefully it’s a tease for next game but yall so impatient and want it now rather than waiting for a sequel it’s like y’all don’t want multiple games let alone a good story 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@LordAKiraAndoudon’t get me wrong the game was mad boring until it starts backtracking and showing continuity to the first game then I got pulled back into the story. Boss fight wasn’t as good as the first games boss fight tho
@@YomamaYodaddyYobjtchassGranny nobody is crying, people just want to fight things. Take a chill pill or something
The ability to change the weapon load out of bots would be fantastic.
I would love if the bots would default to using whatever customization you've done for the class that the bot uses. the fact that you lose out on team perks and so much fire power makes playing with bots on higher difficulties a real slog. It would also incentivize people to level up all the classes so that whichever bot they end up with is capable of pulling its own weight.
It's difficult to Programm but possible. Ubisoft delivered that I think a year after release for Breakpoint.
@@listrahtes vermintide did the system really well
I'll admit it. I was cheering in my chair for a number of scenes in the campaign. I think the main one being the banner stand mission. We've all seen Banner stands depicted in artwork, in the novels, the sense of pure unrelenting determination to stand your ground and survive was captured damn near perfectly within that mission. It legitimately gave me Crimson Fist vibes in many ways, and sent chills down my spine well after the mission ended. So I thank Saber and Oliver for giving us something many of us have been wanting to see outside the pages of a novel or just static artwork.
Great interview, going to try and post this anywhere I can!
Fascinating interview! A lot of interestinf details
my theory is the new enemy will be a horror, they've understood chaos was a bit duller and that would make it a good bit more fun to fight I imagine
They need to add the ability to change lens colour and the MK 7 helmet and other helmets no matter what BS GW say
Well you heard the man, we must start a revolution and post about it on the forum so GW will give in to the demand. FOR THE EMPEROR!
The eye lenses is insane
Especially for red helmets
For real! When he said about people complaining about adding a helmet for lore reasons I'm just thinking BS, literally no one would complain about it harming the lore when the whole thing about 40k is customisation. I have a whole army of primaris with mark 7 helmets. Just like firstborn, why wouldn't primaris add older marks over time? As relics or salvaged pieces, or just heirlooms, etc. We all want these things and the game will suffer long term if they don't leave us with what we want by the end of it all. SM1 will live longer, I'm calling it now. Don't even get me started on chaos customisation, and the excuses they gave behind that. The game is great, but still rushed and lacking in areas, THAT THEY REFUSE TO FIX FOR US. So I'm a bit disheartened, even if it's the only game I've played the past 20 days
@TurbanCatMccoy There's constructive criticism and then there's unnecessary rage disguised as constructed criticism. You do realize this game had like at most 4-5 years of development right? Most good games usually have around 7-8 years of development, don't forget the fact that they had to come up with a completely new story with nothing to go off of except for the ending of the 1st game. There are a lot of shitty and scummy game companies but I don't think Saber Interactive is one of them and I don't think they deserve this anger. (Also the game hasn't even been out for a full month yet man cut them some slack)
I'm going to be fully honest, more helmet patterns would also do customisation wonders. How else do I add the teeth to my Carcharodons?
A Screamer Killer would be lush if we got that for Tyranids or seeing some Flamers of Tzeentch would be cool
Tbh having an exalted sorcerer boss that was more about demon summoning, spawning waves of horrors, flamer flocks, and some screamers.
Probably a thousand sons equivalent of the hive tyrant in decapitation. A big fight at the end of the level.
No please, no more flamers
Well Done Saber Interactive! My personal Game Of The Year.
Thank You.
This is an awesome interview, and great to see rather than all the wild rumours that seem to go round about games now that are then taken as fact.
it would be super cool to battle through the insides of a hive.
I think a good idea would be to reuse the pre Primaris Titus assets from the beginning of the game. And try to depict snapshots from his exile in the death watch.
Would be interesting
new operations in deathwatch would be amazing. there is already characters introduced in the opening that would work for all the classes
Not happening, not gonna work, wouldn't make sense. Stop suggesting crazy ideas that are impossible, you're just confusing the poor devs who have limited time and resources, when we really NEED expansions in customisation and basic operations
@TurbanCatMccoy you know thats what he was basically saying. new deathwatch cosmetics(which are already in the game) and operations related to that. just more stuff like the first mission.
they should add a second and third loadout option like they have with weapons.
awesome interview!!!
After just listening to 5 minutes, You get the Feeling that the Creators are Pure Lovers of what they do!
AND Hearing about the Collaboration and Input that came from Games-Workshop is EXACTLY How to work Together to Achieve the Fantastic Feeling as the Game give me as a Warhammer 40K Fan and Avid Gamer since the beginning of the 90s! The Kid inside me is Screaming with Pure Joy when I listen to this Conversation!
Hearing This all makes me VERY HAPPY! Both as a Fan AND as an Indie Game developer!
Love this game glad they are taking care of it. Would love to see campaign missions over in operations because those maps are great as well!
I wish the chaos space marines were more customizable but also a playable dreadnaught mode or dreadnaught class in operations
If I were in charge, I'd make it so that the bottom scoring player becomes the Dreadnaught to help them no longer bottom score lol
There is never going to be a dreadnought class in operations, it would break it. Cmon now.
Gamemode is likely
Lovely interview. And the shout out.... ❤
Chaplain and Librarian are definitely both desirable.
That said, while, watching this, it may be outside of their constraints, I'd love to see Eldar featured outside of an rts. Given the Ultramarines are the protagonists and Chaos one of the antagonists, Yvraine's crew might be a good fit for an expansion. I suppose that depends a lot on GW and how they wish the lore to flow during the present time. That said, it definitely seems like a Striking Scorpion would be crazy fun and a decent fit for the style.
I'd also LOVE the opportunity to play as a terminator in the future. That or just give boltstorm gauntlets to the heavy
My problem is GW is being pedantic with the armor customization.
In the newest lore and even old Spacemarines either firstborn or Primaris can wear the older suits of power armor. Marks 2-8 are all still usable. The chapters hold on to these ancient suits and still use them in combat because of the effectiveness and legacy they hold. Wearing the old armor is an honor.
Yes you wouldn’t be able to mix all the armor together nor should you but the old armor have no lore reasons preventing them from being a full body armor preset like the champion armor’s already in game and the chaos armor.
Primaris armor can use the Mk.7/8 Aquila and the Mk.6/10 Corvus helmets in the tabletop in official box sets. Nothing fan made about it, as official as it gets. Lens customization is also a needed thing. Many chapters canonically use different lens colors like the salamander who use yellow. It’s in games workshops animations they produce even.
Gw doesn't do this for lore reasons, they do it to "force people to like" the primaris models and buy the new boxes they don't want people buying old boxes with old armor
@@ΩΜΣΔ Or you can have both ? The Primaris Helmet is inspired by a older Power Armor Version. I dont see any resone why there shoudlnt be more versions of Helmets etc. ANd People have more options for there Marines.
I dont know how itd go but some eye sight into Titus' time with the Deathwatch would be awesome. 100 years of unknown has so much room to work with
What a great interview.
Honestly on the swarming expertise the devs have, bringing orks back with a massive waagh would fit
This game is so good! Sadly i have only been able to play the campaign trough a friend, waiting for the game to come on sale and then i will certainly join the fray! Such a work of art, i truly love what Saber did with Space Marine 2, One word: Exceptional.
Im glad he understood it was one of the best Games for 40k for a wider audiences. That it needed to recaptured. Good move on them.
Honestly, this game is fantastic. They have done such a great job setting a foundation for this game. Their is so much potential to make it even greater. Thanks for the fantastic game.
This is a great interview! It answered some of the burning questions I had. I hope the next chapter of Titus is an expansion and not a Space Marines 3 tbh.
Such a great interview
All of this is awesome, but would like to see more helmets with hoods(for bulwark), and definitely color the robes, more colored lenses and customization for the lenses on most helmets, all that would be amazing. Otherwise, no complaints, very happy with what we have now, thanks for all the hard work❤❤
They did a phenomenal job on the game. It had gotten me into the 40k universe. I’m like 3 audiobooks deep already since playing it
Man, librarian would be so damn cool to see with space marine 2's amazing graphics. Psyker is an amazing class for darktide
The real threat in this game: STUNLOCK!
Thank you for making this so good
I’ve been absolutely loving this game, thank you Sabre!
I cant wait to see what Saber does next. One of if not the Best current games developers right now.
Those ladies and gentlemen did an awesome job in immersing in the lore and the models. It was a great investment doing that, you made a perfect game. First game in a long time which gave me chills! Thank you.
I would love to see Space Marine installments in the future branch out to follow protagonists from other popular chapters I.E. Space Wolf, Salamander, Blood Angels, etc….
I want more customization options for the chaos faction if I have to play them
Class Ideas!
Chaplain and Dark Apostle (Word Bearer) Class, slightly squishier than a bulwark + no shield, they'll be slower in melee, but their inspiration does an area of affect that buffs ally damage slightly.
Weapons would be an Crozius or power fist, and pistol weapons.
Librarian and Sorcerer Class (Thousand Sons), weird analogy, but they'll be like a range assault. In order to use their powers they have to be elevated in the air. They are not extremely high up like an assault, but you can see them from a group of space marines. They could have 2 powers, a damage over time light continuous attack that maybe chains with near by enemies and a damage dealing single target attack with a cool down.
Weapons include a (force) power sword, Force staff, and pistol weapons.
Helix Adept and a Consortium (Emperor's Children), phobos armor, squishy, heals more than a bulwark, healing is individual rather than area of effect like bulwark + no shield like a bulwark.
Has normal phobos weapons, no swords just knife.
I feel like these could help and add some interesting options, is true to the lore, and doesn't out class or out shine the other 6 classes
Man it sure would be nice to have more developers that are genuinely passionate or even interested in the I.P. they're working on.
I know it’s a Space Marine game, but I’m brand new into Warhammer and have been building an Adepta Sororitas army and I’d really love to be able to play as or just with them in the game.
Honestly if they want to keep the hype releade horde mode
Already on the roadmap
@@ZaZi-Zeta01yeah but in mid 2025 .. that’s a long way
@@stephenseignet3392 FAIR enough point, I shan't deny
Really good interview! If only Amazon could stay as true to the lore as Saber did!
There is a data slate in the last mission of a wraith being awakened and stalking the mechanicus. Even if we dont get a full necron release, at least a mission with that awakened wraith would be great
Actually having a conversation with the creator. Bless the onmissiah.
Seeing the tomb world was amazing and definitely a treat. Necrons deserve their own game don’t spoil it with an expansion
I hope they add a mini open map like Helldivers too. For example extracting a relic or a mission but with more free area
thats so good! well played sir
I had no doubt Blood Ravens would be a chapter available to customize as, was super happy the second I realized I could out of the gate customize my magpie. as a Necron main I was beyond excited going through the ruins but I really wish there was at least a small section of warriors coming up you had to deal with.
I could easily see them adding pink horrors, blue horrors, etc.
I think a wonderful mode would be a Space Hulk which could also allow for randomized titlesets but I think that is beyond the scope of what they'll do for the game. Maybe SM3 will have a wider scope.
I'd love to see a beaky helmet option and also something around the idea of a Sternguard Veteran that allows some of that classic look (helmet specifically)
Mainly hope to see better heretic customization, more freedom for decal placement and of course helmet mark options. On classes the rumors about an apothecary really get me excited and I hope there is a chance for a tech marine class.
I'd love a Space Marine 2 like videogame with Space Marines vs Necrons. Necrons are easily my favorite faction but Orks would be a blast also. I hope Saber can keep this momentum going. I'm all aboard the 40k hype train!
I think it would be cool to reveal one of the DLC’s Titus is actually a Grey Knight or became one that’s why he can resist the warp
thank you for turning me into a mad fan cant get enough of the 40k universe
Now I know why the game came out as good as it did. Great developer, level-headed and pragmatic. Respects the franchise and doesn't compromise when it comes to quality. All of what we need a developer to be. Cant wait to see whats coming to the game from now on.
I'm really liking the fact that this guy is genuinely aware of cosmetic things due to his own experience painting and collecting figures himself.
I'm a new fan, but would honestly love it if they chose to be more freeing with the customisation. Can only ask for so much tho, don't want to spoil the lore as that's one of the reasons I'm beginning to become addicted to the 40k universe
As someone who’s known of warhammer but has never dived into it I’m super happy for the fans of the universe that this guy and his team are taking it super seriously and not using the ip for their own agenda
i love how the developer's audio sounds like hes from the adeptus mechanicus
I can’t stop playing this game. Such a fun loop
I hope we get Von Ryan Leapers as Majoris enemies, as well as a Malaceptor Extremis enemy. It'd be cool to down a Mutalith Vortex Beast in an Operation as an Extremis keystone fight similar to the Hive Tyrant battle, with a Chaos Sorcerer blasting away from on top of or behind it.
Good stuff and would love to see beakies in the future if possible
When we were getting close to the end of the game I thought Necrons were going to show up, when they didn't show I thought maybe we'd be fighting Necrons and Death Guard in Space Marine 3, in a later update would be absolutely amazing.
I *was* going to wait for it to go on sale.
*Was.* Great interview. ;)
Not gonna lie, watching a legion of Necrons marching in lockstep with this swarm tech... it would be a sight to see.
I always love seeing a director who's clearly passionate about what he's working with.
Compare this man with a Blizzard Dev interview like Aaron Keller (Overwatch 2) and the difference is huge.
Having a hard time thinking they would add a chaplain since they usually only have one in a chapter or one in a company.
I think librarians and apothecaries are more numerous and likely to be the next class
Sorry, I've got some hearing problems and the combination of loud music and not the best microphone-quality - I've got some troubles understanding some passages.
Don't bother apologizing. 'Well played' is a company channel. They paid for the interview. Don't bother giving them advice.
They have a team that did not check audio. Nobody responds to messages because it's a faceless company. Read the channel description. There are no humans here, only memberships you can pay for.
I never heard anyone complain about the lens colors more about not customizing chaos
Idk if it’s possible still new to 40k lore not sure if it’s restricted or not but having a terminator class would be pretty awesome ngl
@Wellplayed Want them to allow multiple of the same class to be played in operations because it's such a pain in trying to level a certain class when everyone is trying to play it all the time like Bulwark
There is going to be a private lobby setup so you can coordinate with friends. Personally though I deal with this by leveling both Bulwark and Sniper. There are the occasions both of them used but most of the time I'm able to use one of em
@@randomisaac5959 I main heavy. I've maxed out heavy and all weapons / perks / weapon perks but all I main is heavy that's my build and the only build I will use.
@@randomisaac5959 I'm more so speaking for those who only want to play a certain class or are struggiling to find a lobby to level that class of choice.
I love this game it’s been like a light in the dark for me ik it’s got its problems but I really love this game it brought back some of the joy I had back in my childhood
I need to be able to change the helmet lenses colour, it's fair to have it and it will make a great diference to me.
The game has so much potential for expansion.
Imagine playing Librarians, Chaplains or Techmarines.
Imagine a Chaos campaign!
Or mass PvP with (I know I'm dreaming) a DUELING system.
I so want this game to grow