Hard & Soft Light Simultaneously! Secret Split Light Trick
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- Hard & Soft Light Simultaneously! Secret Split Light Trick
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I love these videos. Your sense of humor is fantastic. I love how you're putting together the jump cuts with your little "bloopers" and silly things you say. It keeps a fascinating subject very entertaining to watch.
Huge thanks Jeff for your kind words.
I'm learning so much. I've always been intimidated by lighting. Really enjoyed the way you broke things down in a simple and succint manner. It all makes sense now.
I'm so glad! Thanks a lot for watching!
The Shaolin Master wearing a cap, a camera in one hand with a cup of coffee in the other...
🤣 😎 I can live with that epithet.
This is fast becoming my favourite YT channel. Thank you for being so refreshing and clear with your workflow 👍
Fantastic! Thanks!
The best teaching that can be given! 👏🏻👏🏻 simple words enclose important basic concept about lighting source and it impact on material and shadow 👏🏻👏🏻
Carlo! 🙏🏼
I have been binging (not to fast, but at least 3-5 a day for 4 days now). I must say I love your personality. So refreshing from the usual content creators. Maybe you fake it, but it looks so authentic to me. I'm almost jealous. Wish I were in Europe to come to your studio ans shoot some tropical fruits or some fancy Old Rum bottle (I am form the Caribbean). And the knowledge you share...🤯, and the trademark whistling sound you make every video ... love this!! to sum it up. Thank you so much!
Thanks a lot Teddy! Well, if ever in Sweden lets hook up.
Happy you like the videos, and I'm just being myself. Can't stand many of the hysterical you tubers, why not just be relaxed and create content were people actually learn something 😃
Good stuff, confusing at first (yes). But wow, now it makes sense thanks to you. Absolutely awesome tutorial, thank you.
Thanks man!!
Hello from Vancouver, BC. I’m Latvian living in Canada and I really dig how you use English language in a way that is really understandable for ESL.
I’ve been shooting outdoor lifestyle in natural light for over 5 years now but lately very interested in some studio work. Amazing content and you are very talented!
Thanks a million, very happy to hear that!
Love your camera side manner, just wonderful.
Thank you, very kind!
great video, thank you, I thought you explained well and love the moment to stop and hail the coffee and jokes along the way. Your camera is so kind 😁
Thanks so much!
Great lesson! Thanks.
Gustavo 👍🏻🙏🏼😁
Your video is what I was looking for to answer some question related to speedlight location/height ideas and that you added using a diffuser was great for me since I will be photography me daughter's jewelry designs!
Awesome, happy it was useful.
Thank you so much bot, greetings from Colombia your videos are outside the box, best videos to start the 2020.
Great to hear! Thanks!
The quality of the difusion from Savage it's really good!
Another great tutorial!
Huge thanks! Yes I think they're the best.
Hey guys, is it the "Translum" from "Savage" you are using? Which weight do you use? There are three options: Heavy- , Medium- and Lightweight. Thanks!
@@luftfahrtlobby I use/have them all but if I should recommend one - Medium
@@botvidsson Great! Can you please tell what the name of the frame is you put the Savage on? I can't find any of these...
@@luftfahrtlobby It's just a regular KAPA foam board that I cut out myself. If you're a COFFEE SUPPORTER at my website www.botvidsson.se you will find a video how I make them.
Absolute legend. Really enjoy your videos.. and your love of coffee is inspirational
Sooo great to get your support. Thanks a lot, means a lot.
As usual, very helpful tips. Thanks a lot 😊
Thanks, you're welcome!
Thanks Martin always something new to learn!! 🙌🏻
You are very welcome!
love your tutorial
Janjira Jatejarungwong Thanks a lot! And 🙏🏻 for watching!
i would love to see the 'advanced' version of this shot with two lights where you can play around gradients. you mentioned it in the video, I am sure we are all ready for the challenge
Maybe one day... 😎
When people inquire in person or online about where to find colored gels, I always tell them to seek out businesses in their area that supplies television stations, schools, churches or film/TV productions with equipment. Those businesses almost always will have gels to use over lights.
Thant's a very good tip Terry, thanks.
You have a great positive video, like to watch it !!!! do more👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼 You are best!
Thank you so much!
Thank you so much! Liked and subbed!!!
Thanks for the sub!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge
My pleasure
New subscriber. Thank you for your video. Learned something new and you’re very funny :)
Awesome! Thank you!
This is perfect! I have one flash so I will be giving this a go !
Great! Go for it!
Amazing! Thank you!
And thank you for watching!
you are amazing man !!
Wow. That is really kind of you to say.
Get the gel from Rosco. They have a super selection, they exist on the size you mention.
I will check them out. Thanks for the tip!
I feel so blessed that I found your channel!
Thank you so much my friend!
Final images so nice. And yes. The world has been taken over by hard light. I lost out on a bid for a Neutrogena job and I think part of it was I didn't have as many hard shadow images as the woman who ended up being awarded the project--but also she is good at cosmetics, etc. Yesterday I was shooting at an advertising agency's studio and for the first time they asked for a bit softer light...but then came back and said can I add a hard light. My sensibility responds more to soft light (I've been shooting for 23 years) but the photo market doesn't care 🤪
Interesting to hear about your experience. Tuff out there. 😁
Fantastic video.
Thank you very much!
You sir, are a true genius😍😍
Too kind. Thanks a lot
yeaaaah baby! Never get enough of your tips and tricks, Greeting from México, dear master!
Hernando torres Sounds great man!! 😁
so confusing i have been trying to achieve this result the whole day i couldn't, and i went home and tried to put in place the same setup on 3d software to mimic the idea but i really got more frustrated, could you please tell me where is the fine line between hard and soft light in the scene?
Can you show me a photo?
LOVING the tutorials.. Hello from New Zealand. I have a challenge for you... would you ever shoot makeup product with natural light only? (still making it look cool obvs). Would love to see a tutorial if you are up for it? Thanks!
Hello and thanks! That's a very interesting idea, never done that. I will do it if I find the time.
@@botvidsson thanks!! It would be cool to see something impactful and moody rather than soft - just to add to the challenge!! Hehe.
It is a bit confusing, it's hard to tell from the angle of the vlog camera. The diffusion paper isn't direct blocking the line of sight between the light and the products, it is slightly off to the side so that it matches the angle of the camera? Or it is directly in between the light and product?
Thank you so much in advanced. Again, I'm learning so much from you, and am seriously indebted to you!
Thanks a lot! Sorry about the camera in this video, not so good.
The bare flash is a bit to the left side of the camera, up high in the ceiling. That bare flash hits the products.
The diffusion is just outside the frame top, you can say that it's in the same angle as the camera angle, in that way the whole scene will pick up the reflection from the lit up diffusion.
Don't know if this make sense? 😁
tack :) regards from Romania!
Ingen orsak! 😁
hey mr. coffee! you can buy the Lee Colour Filter in a variaty of colours with dimension like 25 x 123 cm. They are cheap (dont buy a hole role) and important to know: They can handle heat! I bought 15 colours for like 80€ or something and i have been really happy with the results. hope it helps you! Cheers - Mr. Tea.
Timo G Thanks Timo for the tip. Will check them out.
The "Lee Master Location Pack" has a nice variety for the start. Comes with 25 differnet gels, 25x30cm. Got mine from a big music store which sells concert light equipment.
Nice, yes one day I will order a pack... thanks
@@botvidsson a coffee someday would be thanks enough ;)
Queen even have it in lyrics ... “it’s a kind of magic”
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Thnaks for your great videos! i have a question, Why does the shiny surface of lipstick reflects the soft diffused light even if it's halfly hitted by some hard light ?!?!?
MehranHadad it’s because the flash is placed so it will not reflect in the shiny parts of the lipsticks. Don’t know if that answer makes you any wiser?
@@botvidsson you mean that the diffuser is ONLY covering the shiny part of the lipstick ?
Depends on from where you are looking, no the diffuser is not covering anything except half of the light from the flash. Here's a birds eye sketch: www.botvidsson.se/download/splitlight.jpg
I look forward to to seeing your videos. I've got a suggestion, I'd love to see what you can do with an acoustic guitar. As it's a project I've been working on and having trouble with thanks
Thanks! I will most likely shoot a bass guitar together with a subscriber in SUBS CHOICE soon...
@@botvidsson cool can't wait to see it
Hello, Thank you so much for the tutorials. Can you please do one for clothing?
Thanks! Maybe
I've bought the gels (a whole bunch of different colors) at a theater material shop. They have tons of colors for their lights and it might suit you well as it did to me. BTW, much cheaper than photography material!!!
Thanks great tip, now I only have to find that kind of store :)
@@botvidsson This one is in Lisbon (no idea if they send stuff to Sweden), but it will give the notion of what kind of store I'm talking about. Hope it helps. Look for etcine dot pt (youtube won't allow me to post a website here).
Huge thanks Gustavo!
Sorry I wrote in Swedish, there are probably more English speakers here then Swedish Anyway Rosco has some kits of gels that might be ok.
Charlie Thanks, I will check out the Rosco gels. Ja det är väldigt få svenskar, vilket gör mig lite förvånad 🤔
brilliant
😃 thanks!
yeah!
YES!
8:20 you can buy cellophane paper....they come in large sheets and in verity of colours ....they are also super cheap like $1 for 10 sheets
Big thanks for the tip!
I'm still a little confused as to how much exactly the diffusion is covering the products to allow the hard light to pass through. Wish I could see another angle :(
Yes, sorry about that. Bad angle. The diffusion is not really covering the products at all, it's placed at the same angle (But mirrored) as the camera angle so the diffusion reflects into the products... It's hard to explain in writing... Guess I need to do a new tutorial 😃
botvidsson yes please 🙏
@@botvidsson If I understand correctly.... the camera is seeing the "soft" light that is being bounced back into the scene from the light reflecting underneath the diffusion? In other words, the soft light is NOT coming from light passing THROUGH the diffusion, but from the light that is reflecting of the shiny surface, onto the under side of the diffusion, and then back onto the scene?
@@botvidsson yes please!!!!!!!!!!!!! its very confusing please do that tutorial!!!
I have done this type of lighting before ... the light that is passing thru the diffusion material softens that portion of the light on that part of the scene that it passes thru ... the hard light is going past the diffusion material and striking those areas of the product as "undiffused" light ... which gives the hard shadows and harsh contrast for that portion of the subject. The angle of the camera sees the single light source as two different types of light. Think of it like if you were wearing a pair of sunglasses and one lens was missing and your eyes were the camera.
You would actually see two different types of light from a single source.
Is the diffusion covering the products entirely?
No, the bare flash will hit the whole scene and will create the hard shadow edges. The light will also hit the diffusion and that will reflect on to the glossy parts in the scene.
The diffusion is placed a bit in front of the scene.
@@botvidsson Thank you
Rosco makes a huge variety of gels.
Yeah I know... just need to get my hands on them some how... Thanks!
I have done this type of lighting before ... the light that is passing thru the diffusion material softens the quality of light that that falls on that portion of the scene that it passes thru ... the hard light is going past the edge of diffusion material and is striking that portion of the product as "undiffused" light ... which gives the hard shadows and harsh contrast for that portion of the subject. The angle of the camera sees the single light source as two different types of light. Think of it like if you were wearing a pair of sunglasses and one lens was missing and your eyes were the camera.
You would actually see two different types of light from a single source.
The light on the diffusor actually just reflect on to the glossy parts
Martin thanks for always answering my questions as I'm sure you're very busy. My question- Is the tripod you're using the same for most of your product shots? If so what model is it and does it come with a leveler on it?
No problem. Normally I use this tripod www.amazon.com/dp/B001A1TMQQ/?cv_ct_id=amzn1.idea.2NLEZK5IOYSAE&cv_ct_pg=storefront&cv_ct_wn=aip-storefront&ref=exp_cov_botvidsson_dp_vv_d
Right now I'm working a lot in a restaurant and I left this tripod there, so I use my old Manfrotto tripod in the studio, don't remember the name but it's 190 PRO series. For a long time ago I bought a center column for my video work so I could level the camera in an easy way. It's this one www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/272855-REG/Manfrotto_556B_556B_Leveling_Center_Column.html
Hope that answered your Q. :)
about the gels, you can buy the pastel gels collection from jake hicks :)
Aha! I guess it's LEE filters with his name on it, just like Karl Taylor. However, they are the best I guess so... THANKS a lot for the tip! I will try to get around to order some. I have to!
You probably found what you need already, but Rosco make a "Beauty Filter Kit" (for portrait photographers) that has a whole set of pastel tone gels:
stagedepot.co.uk/lighting/gel-kits-accessories/kits/rosco-beauty-filter-kit
it's close to what we call sofhob in video
"soft on face hard on body" :)
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AMAZING JOB
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Hello, for the gold surface you use some adhesive wallpaper I guess? Pasted on foam board or something other? (I have difficulties having a clean-cut section for my foam board, I thought about using some PVC). Thanks!
The golden is a plastic mirror material. The others are gray foam boards or KAPA as we call them in Sweden. They have nice edges coss I did not touch them. Fabric cut :)
@@botvidsson Thanks for the tips! Seems that you have very good art stores in Stockholm... The foam board I can find here is ok but maginfied with a macro lens, the cuts look a bit sloppy. So I thought you might have used some less fragile PVC instead. Guess I need some Photoshop work! Have a nice day.
@@jeromemacadam Yes you need to find a good art store with best quality KAPA boards, I know it doesn't help you but this is the one I buy www.mattonbutiken.se/produkt/cellpanna-gra-svart-5mm-70x100 good luck!
Great video! What diffusion paper do you use? Loving your channel!
Click the Amazon Shop link under the video.
😃 Thanks!
@@botvidsson amazing, thanks, I've been using tracing paper from the art store.
That will work too!
Another amazing video. This is the 8th video I have watched in only a few days since I have discovered your channel. Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge with us
Awesome! Thank you so much! Really happy that you learn some.
Is it possible to replicate this hard shadows using continuous light such as led bulbs?
Hm... yes I believe it would be possible, the problem might be that the bulb is not so powerful like flashes. Crank up the ISO and stay at big aperture like f1.4-2.8 then it might work, make sure to be in a complete dar room.
@@botvidsson yes, maybe with longer exposure might work. I'm trying to make these kind of shots www.behance.net/gallery/49462341/MINKE this style definitely popular these days. Maybe do more like this? Thanks man!
@@LaurensiusAdiKun Yes absolutely, but it's very simple light. One small light source. Done.
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You're very welcome!
I'm concerned about the coffee being right over your camera. :) Also, I am wondering what kind of flash you are using / recommend for this? I am a beginner on a budget. I looked at the gear link but I am not sure which item is the flash. Is it one of the Profoto D2 Duo 500/500 AirTTL 2-Lights?
Yes, it's the D2's. If you're starting out it might be a bit too expensive. Might want to look at Elinchrom, I would get to used flashes and start testing. For this particular photo any flashes will work.
@@botvidsson Okay and then the other question is, does it really need to be a flash? I have one of those silver reflective clamp lights & a ton of bulbs. Super cheap, but could it work if I got some of that scrim material?
@@tgifryeday Well, I often say that it is possible BUT, consistent light is often too weak and it's hard to but on modifiers to shape the light in an easy way.
If I started out today I would go and buy 2 used flashes, maybe the Profoto D1's 500ws. Or some old used Elinchrom. Remember that you need to get some kind of modifiers, count that into the price.
@@botvidsson Thank you so much! I'll do some research. Right off the bat I found three used Travelite 750 Monolights here locally. Maybe I can make those work. p.s. I'm still uneasy about the coffee proximity to the camera. :) Thanks again!
Was it the video I had the coffee glass on the camera body? 🤣🤣🤣 Living on the edge you know... It's just a Canon 😉
Travelite, I think they have Bowens mount for modifiers so you will not have any problem to find some good stuff.
Nice tutorial, but I think you should have made the name of the brand more readable. I d add white board on two sides so that the name would be more readable 😊
Great suggestion!
What aperture are u using on this?
f14
Hi Bot, my girlfriend and I send you a great vibes for the beginning of this week. We got two question we will be greatfull if you could help us, do you have payed courses to get to the next level on retouching products and more lighting tips? And the white surface paper which type of material is it 7:35? The one who mades the soft light. Wait for your answer, greetings
Thanks a lot! I do have courses from time to time but nothing planned for the moment. If I do I will announce it here on TH-cam or Instagram. The diffusion paper I use: www.amazon.com/dp/B00A6VWG9G/?ref=exp_botvidsson_dp_vv_d
Thank so much Bot for answering us, the difussion paper We cant afford it now but will try with a big translucent umbrella that we have at the same place you have the paper, hope it could works will let you now. we now suscribed waiting for new videos greetings
Hello Martin, thaks for your useful help. I've learned a lot from your videos. This video is amazing too. Let me help you a little in return with this gel issue. I am not an ambassador or something of a brand, and i dont get money for sharing this, but there are gels what you looking for. They call Cool/Warm Colours Filter Kit (30x30 cm), FOMEI. If you did not purchased yet another one, this will help, and one more time thank you. Hope one day I become a cofesupporter :)
Cool, thanks. I will check it out
Should i buy you a coffee ? Your tips and tricks are unearthly !
"Unearthly" = unnatural or mysterious, especially in a disturbing way.
Don't know if I should take that as a compliment or not 🤣
If you want to sponsor my channel you can always become a Coffee Supporter on my website: www.botidsson.se
@@botvidsson of course its compliment, in our language this words mean something like, god like tips and tricks, like not from this earth :)
And yes i will support you, keep it up !
@@Joker1531993 I know man, just kidding. Thanks a lot for the support!!
Hi from Australia! Just wondering is it possible to achieve the hard shadow edge using Elinchrom box 500? I keep only getting soft edge shadows. I'm using one head as the main source with the box still on the head but no diffuser, and the other light as a fill to lighten the shadow. I'm just starting out, so any help would be appreciated. I'm also shooting food :)
I would suggest that you take the softbox off, and have nothing on. The flash/light source need to be as small as possible.
I am having difficulty photographing a super shinny "Royal Mirage" perfume
Can you show us how to do it
May be you can google it by the name & photoghrap a similar thing
Love from India
Yes it looks hard, shiny stuff is hard. Maybe light up a white diffusion from the back? Or strip boxes on the side to get a highlight
@@botvidsson in that way I get weird reflections on the whole bottle coz the bottle surce is curve the lines from the reflection bends on the edges
Yes I know it can be hard sometimes, you just have try try out different methods, then suddenly you will find your way.
@@botvidsson sure thanks
Lee har jättemånga bra filtrar i ALLA nyanser. Och man kan köpa ark 50x120cm eller 30x30cm. Plus 120x760cm rullar.
Hej och tack. Jag känner till det men var finns de att köpa i Sverige?
@@botvidsson Det finns olika ställen. Thomann.de skickar till Sverige och har bra priser. Lightpartner.dk skickar till Danmark - men där är jag ofta och ka ta med till dig om du vill.
Ah Thomann har!? Precis, bra priser där och man får grejerna snabbt. Tack för tips!
@@botvidsson Javisst. Jättebra priser på Avenger och Manfrotto också. Det finns vissa Lee grejer dom inte har - då ka man antigen skaffa från Danmark eller skicka förfrågan till Thomann - de tar grejer hem på beställning.
IT's funny Video..!
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Would a speedlight be enough to take this kind of style?
Yes but I'm not sure how much power a speed light has, then you might have to adjust the aperture and ISO to get the brightness you like.
@@botvidsson Do you think 200Ws is enough?
@@Bigchicklovethefootball That's not much but I guess it will work if you shoot on big apertures like f/2.8-4.0 and do not have so thick diffusion paper.
100mm macro?
Yes correct!
@@botvidsson Thanks! Youre amazing! i was already a fan before i met your channel here haha thanks for sharing all this!
Thanks, very kind!
Awesome stuff as usual 👍 You were talking about colour filters, I use Lee filters color packs at the studio: www.leefilters.com/lighting/packs.html#&filter=lighting-pack
Yes, exactly what I'm after, huge selection of cool effect gels. Thanks!
Rosco har några såna kit som är kanske nåt som passar dig, jag har ett av dessa någonstans långt ner i väskan. www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1100317-REG/rosco_110110120001_rosco_photo_lighting_filter.html
Bra tips, tack!
Every coloured gel - leefilters.com
Thanks!
@@botvidsson you probably already knew that...:)
Exhausting to watch...
Yes, if you want to become a pro it's tuff. Very exhausting!
Too much talking to be honest. I tried watching but he can't please everyone. It's not the channel for me
Normally I'm with you but this topic needs explaining and his small talks was okay for me.
Edit: So I liked it-)