Star Wars: Episode 9 - The Rise of Skywalker REVIEW & FIRST THOUGHTS
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 22 ก.ย. 2024
- Star Wars: Episode 9 - The Rise of Skywalker is here, and it's my least favorite film in the sequel trilogy. The relationship between Rey and Ben was fun, and one of the only things about the movie I enjoyed and found interesting. Here we go!
Official synopsis:
The surviving Resistance faces the First Order once more in the final chapter of the Skywalker saga.
Directed by: J.J. Abrams
Written by: Chris Terrio, J.J. Abrams, Derek Connolly, Colin Trevorrow
Starring: Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Adam Driver, Daisy Ridley, John Boyega, Oscar Isaac, Anthony Daniels, Naomi Ackie, Domhnal Gleeson, Richard E. Grant, Lupita Nyong'o, Keri Russell, Joonas Suotamo, Kelli Marie Tran, Ian McDiarmid, Billy Dee Williams, Greg Grunberg, Shirley Henderson, Billie Lourd, and more
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What if someone told you in 1983 that Star Wars ends with Han Solo's son making out with Emperor Palpatine's granddaughter
They called him a mad man.
The worst part is that the story would still work without Rey being a Palpatine.
They only need to change a few lines and nothing else.
The saga ends with a Palpatine stealing the name Skywalker and claiming she actually is a Skywalker. Palpatine won. Maybe not the Emperor but still.
@@MercerVerse that's because she is not a Palpatine at heart, she is a Skywalker because of all good things Luke and Leia did for her, they are her family...like Luke said in the movie "heritage doesn't choose who you are as person."
@@davidnoone3254 Ok, Nazi.
Anakin : doesn’t like sand
Rey: Buries his lightsaber in sand
The darkside is beaten at last
lmao, rey is an asshole for that =DDD
It is all about passing the torch. It was Anakin's, but is Luke's lightsaber now. Could have been Rey's, or be reforged into something new; but JJ took the methaphore and buried it in the sand with "Luke's saber".
What an asshole!
@Maxus Devasteitor it's anakins that's why he made his own
Funny how Snoke's guards were stronger then the knights of Ren
Well Snoke’s guards did have weapons that could deflect lightsabers and the Knights of Ren didn’t. Lol
@@dwzenix7954 yeah cause that one extra in the background only noticeable when looking for it just completely ruined the Praetorian Gaurd fight scene.
@@zachfakelastname You mean the disappearing knife which was onscreen for a few sec., riiiiigggghhhhhttttt nitpicking.
@@zachfakelastname oh fuck off,
it's just one of many flws
@@thedarkmasterthedarkmaster Guy, *ALL* Star Wars fight scenes have horriblle mistakes (Vader not using Force on Luke at the end of ROTJ, Maul standing and doing nothing while Obi-Wan jumps...) People just want to be mad about that scene, because theydislike TLJ
Okay but who tf got with Palpy and had a kid...
😭😭😭😭. I don’t even want to think about that.
In the prequels we find out that Palpy trained under darth pleigus, who could create life. My theory is that Palpy learned that power from his master before he killed him. This combined with his other abilities makes him perhaps the most powerful with ever. So I think Palpy created Rey.
Andrew S. Palp used lukes hand to create rey thats why when she touched lukes lightsaber she had the vision
Probably sly Moore
Aw no.... now I got an image of a shriveled palpadick in my head.... thanks guys....
Finn: You ran spice?
Poe: You were a stormtrooper ?
Rey: You ran spice ?
Poe: You were a scavenger, we can do this all day 😝😎.
That made me love Poes Character so much.
Loved that part. The three of them interacting was a lot of fun.
Now,i start to think poe is the han solo of the sequel
It wasn’t funny my theater was dead silent
@@TheNightsVengeance damn, you mean because you and the people watching with you didn't find it funny means no one else might?
@@jr2904 my theater loved it. With a name like marvelkid, you know you are getting trolled.
That was not gut feeling. That was the force.
That's not how the force works!
The Rise of Skywalker
⭐🎬88% positive⭐🎬
J.J. Abrams fixes Ruin Johnson's foolish mistakes
like when Rey throws the lighstaber away, Luke catches it and says: "a Jedi's weapon needs to be respected" it's a shot right at Ruin Johnson's multiple dumb scenes & mistakes, and right at the minority who fell for Ruin Johnson's dumb movie.
We won!
and JJ knew Ruin Johnson's trash needed to be fixed
We won!
88% ⭐🎬🥳
@elite4x are you a baby cyborg?
A feeling
@@matth3w2002 after this movie the force can do whatever the writers want at this point.
The most interesting idea the film hints at but doesn’t outright say is expanding the rule of two. I always thought the Rule of Two was underwhelming: one master and apprentice. And upon the master’s death, the apprentice suddenly becomes the master.
Palpatine’s line “I am all the sith” and the legion of dark hooded figures behind him, alludes to the idea that when an apprentice kills his/her master, not only is the sith covenant passed along but so too is their force essence, forever bonded to them. It follows, guides, and strengthens the apprentice and makes him truly the master. The passes along of the torch is what makes a sith all powerful. So Palpatine’s destruction of the Jedi order isn’t just the work of a genius politician but the culmination of a 1000 years of sith work. And it’s nice to know that the sighs of old got a front row seat look at the Jedi’s destruction along side Palpatine. This also literally explains the title “Dark Lord of the Sith”.
@Gmail com No, it's his interpretation. That's literally what a director in this case wants you to figure out. It's what artists want you to think when you see their paintings. On top of that, it completely makes sense.
Gmail com I mean, “I am all the Sith” and Palpatine’s talk of his spirit transferring into Rey after she strike him down with her lightsaber seem pretty on the nose. It’s pretty easy to see how all of the Sith spirits are with Palpatine as every Sith apprentice kills their master to take their place.
EscapeVelocity it’s probably why he’s so insanely powerful, just like Rey is insanely powerful. And she fucking died to stop him, so it isn’t that far fetched.
Is that what it actually was? I thought they were gonna do something stupid like Palpatine LITERALLY takes over Rey's body.
Yes, this! I've seen nobody talking about this. This definitely peaked my interest when that all went down.
I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would. The Mandalorian is still better.
Dennis Smith Yes, I feel exactly the same. I went in with low expectations and was pleasantly surprised! Mando is mint tho!
the production kind of took into account the tfa problem. I liked it too. But an 80% is not a 90 or a hundred.. and SW should definitely one day make perfect.. I think it just has to be more bold and deep and it can transcend..it’ll breath life into cinema again
Some episodes of the mandalorian are better.
Some aren't.
The Rise of Skywalker
⭐🎬88% positive⭐🎬
J.J. Abrams fixes Ruin Johnson's foolish mistakes
like when Rey throws the lighstaber away, Luke catches it and says: "a Jedi's weapon needs to be respected" it's a shot right at Ruin Johnson's multiple dumb scenes & mistakes, and right at the minority who fell for Ruin Johnson's dumb movie.
We won!
and JJ knew Ruin Johnson's trash needed to be fixed
We won!
88% ⭐🎬🥳
@@internet2055 rian made a much better film and jj ruined the trilogy that he started, somehow.
I did not like this movie or the last jedi but I loved the force awakens and if you loved all three that's okay and if you hated all three that's okay I don't know why people are at each others throats it's star wars we all love something about Star Wars everyone just needs to chill
Agreed
Now a man I respect with his opinion, it ain't toxic.
@Frank Wells thank you(:
Agreed, I love TFA and TRoS, but I hate TLJ. Complete respect for you if you think otherwise, but I can't say that I understand it personally
I've also only seen TRoS once so far, so we'll have to see with that one
Mace Windu huzzah! A man of quality
I feel like palpatine being alive kinda diminishes Darth Vader’s death...
That’s how it was in legends. At least in canon he actually died and was resurrected instead of just being alive the whole time
The final nail in the coffin for the OT. This in general is why I hope they decanonize the ST.
@@Draezeth People have been saying this for like 20+ years.
@@nameynamename3758 I don't see how the PT is guilty of it. Except Yoda commanding clones, I guess.
@@Draezeth Making Anakin completely irredeemable making his redemption undeserving.
The greatest and bravest hero in perhaps the entire Star Wars universe is Palpatine’s son. What made Luke a hero in the OT was resisting the path of his father down the dark side. Palpatine’s son takes that to the nth degree. Bro really walked away from being the prince of the entire galaxy cuz his daddy was evil. He rejected being all powerful and all rich on principle. The unsung hero of the galaxy. Shout out to him.
Was Palpatine deformed when he had his son? I'm honestly so confused...
Christopher Aiezza I’m gonna be frank with you bro. it don’t matter how ugly or monstrous you look. if you’re rich and powerful, you can get some pussy.
Rhaegar Targaryen Was he as powerful as Rey or Sheev though?
I'd agree if we actually got any real info about him.
Sheev gettin some action...
Completely agree, but I actually disliked it way more than you did. Love Rey and Kylo's dynamic tho, definitely my favorite part of the whole film.
Funny, I also completely agree, but liked it way more than him. I guess people accept and rank things at different levels eh
@@Cooleatack Yeah ofc. I can see why people like it, I found a lot of enjoyable moments and things in the film.
The biggest problem for me was the plot mixed with the break neck pacing, it feels like weird poorly written fan fiction stitched together with an amazing final chapter. Plotlines are introduced and then never developed, so many characters just appear to do nothing.
I just wish JJ would've found a way to work with what was given to him instead of trying to retcon everything TLJ did. The reason people hated TLJ wasn't because of the twists, I think it had more to do with that movie being boring and incredibly hard to sit through (and the awful marvel tier jokes). I dislike both films in the end, but people are entitled to their opinion.
yeah but Reylo sucks and is essentially hyper-fangirl's fan-fiction
@Rey beno. except Reylo, Ben should have saved her without that WEIRD Reylo fanservice kiss.
@@-jank-willson reylo was awful.
My one problem is that Ben died and Rey survived in the end. I think it would've been cool if both Palpatine and Rey died, destroying the organisations they embodied and we're left with Ben - a powerful force user that isn't a jedi nor a sith. He's something unique, and that would've been cool to leave with a character that will define the force in the future in a new way, rather than by sith or jedi teachings but at the same time, not denying the positives of either through his hands on experience with both.
With you, but least Rey's lightsabre is a different colour which may indicate something new and different. Maybe time will tell in other material how Rey will do things different from Jedi. Otherwise the cycle repeats.
Rian Johnson: Actions have consequences
JJ: nah
Aging Luke Skywalker: "We're passing the torch to you, kids."
Zombie Emperor Palpatine: "Gimme back that friggin' torch, you little twerps!"
Nikolai Belinski Luke Skywalker realizing he was wrong and sacrificing himself to essentially becoming a legend of hope? The line about the Jedi being whipped out by Palpatine and making things worse for the galaxy? Poe disobeying orders and getting unnecessary lives killed? Kylo killing Snoke and becoming supreme leader? Rose saving Finn because of his wreck-less sacrifice? I could go on.
Nikolai Belinski it plays with the themes, and if Kylo is supreme leader with the evil plan, you don’t need Palpatine to come back from the impossible to survive death. TLJ sets up consequences that are completely ignored in ROS.
@@Buttcakes15 Honestly, the only two things that were meaningful in TLJ was Luke and Snokes death. Both of which could have been mentioned in the beginning title crawl of episode 9 and you wouldn't need to know anything else to understand what is happening. The Jedi being wiped out by Palatine (and Vader) was already made clear in the OT, episode 3, Rebels, Jedi fallen order and the comics. Poe getting rebels killed is meaningless, because rebels are always dying and somehow they always amass. Could have been mentioned in a sentence. Rose and Finn are practically ignored in episode 9.
Besides Nikolai's toxic attitude, I do agree that you could skip TLJ, have someone tell you about Luke and Snokes death and you'd be ready to go for episode 9.
Yes Rian, *these* are the consequences.
I didn’t think people cared who Rey’s parents were anymore.
I feel like they had to also answer it because fans were upset that she wasnt related to anyone important, i kinda wished she was a nobody still instead of a palpatine.
CowCommander1 they didn’t have to answer it again. Now it just looks like they made a mistake and aren’t consistent at all in the writing of the story.
@@maxymetalman just like the og trilogy... from a certain point of view lol
@@HOTD108_ yeah, well, he's a man child and not in the fun way. He loved Man of Steel too, I'm not gonna take what that guy says seriously
Favorite scene is when the Jedi voices speak to Rey. Rey being a Palpatine is really stupid to me. It was just okay.
Yes.
Kanan was a pleasant surprise, wasn't it?!
I would've loved to hear Ezra too.
@@jungoo3486 you could hear asoka
Rey being a Palpatine is kinda hinted by her theme.
especially the voice of the man who hates sand and finds it's coarse and irritating :b
Ending could definitely been better.
Spoilers
As cool as it was seeing Luke stop Rey from throwing her lightsaber in the fire, the execution was cheesy as heck lol
Yeah. It would be cooler to see the light saber get thrown into the fire and getting thrown back to Rey when he back is turned. Then Luke would step out and give his speech like in the normal film,
Well Star Wars have always had a lot of cheese 🧀
Stefan Holmqvist true true lol
If you pay attention to Rey's Theme, and slow it down, you'll be able to tell she was meant to be who she is, from the moment Williams wrote it.
WesMordine it’s a lighter version of the Emperor’s Arrival from rotj
@@eXquisiteGaming110 correct.
Williams writes his music in motifs, themes. This is no accident.
He’s the master
Also notice that Rey and Sheev are the only characters that use stabbing attacks with lightsabers. Still though, I get the feeling that they really didn’t know what they were doing when they wrote Force Awakens and even Last Jedi. This whole trilogy feels rocky, like each of the films clash with each other and just try to undo each other. I will say that the even the prequels didn’t feel like they contradicted each other.
@@eXquisiteGaming110 Really? I had no idea about that one.
I did remember that Pablo Hidalgo had said to read the old Jedi Prince books to get insight into the new stories. In those books we meet Ken who Luke trains as a Jedi, who is revealed to be the grandson of Palpatine. The Force also skipped a generation there as Ken's father did not have the Force.
I just REALLY want to go forward to 2039 and hear what star wars fans will think about this trilogy.
Because the prequels were trashed for decades but, today, people act like they are "secretly genius" and they are classic so i really wonder about the legacy of these new movies.
Id like to say its because of the clone wars 2008 series. HOWEVER, i obviously cannot speak for everyone, but for me at least, that got me to like the prequel era more and more~
Too much in the internet i think. Nobody i know talks about the prequels, and if someone does it is to tell a joke. I love them, but web haters are using Lucas and the prequels to feed their narrative.
@@Number1Irishlad The clone wars was good but that doesn't make the actual prequel movies any better imo. It just shows what they actually could have been doing instead of what they failed with in the prequels.
@@elijahdavila3684 i more meant like that era, rather than the movies specifically. Tho i did say the movies, i shoulda been clearer. My bad~ 😁
@@Number1Irishlad That's the thing, the prequels movie are not good, i have good feeling because i grew up with those but episode I and II are the worst star wars movies.
BUT the extra material that was released over the years, videogames, comics, books and the clone wars series, were so good that people today have a much more positive view of that star wars era.
I imagine the same thing could happen again.
I love the subtle "new house tour" in the background of the video. LOL
To me, the Rey and Kylo relationship has been the story’s main interest since TFA. They both seem to have the “realest” interactions and since TLJ, they share the most intimate scenes, showing their true selves to each other. The Rise of Skywalker touched all the emotional buttons I needed.
It's like an old EU novel
Yeah it does. It has a lot of cues from Dark Empire and such.
The bad kind
Commander Shepard Don't let nostalgia cloud your vision this is an old eu novel.
Agreed. Really felt like EU material that Lucasfilm reluctantly allowed
Specifically, it's like Dark Empire.
Yep. Still going to see it again tho. 🤷♀️💔
Back: Please do more videos of you in different locations. I love this format, haha.
AT-AT Chat You and me are in the same boat.
I loved the sequel trilogy, I defended them.... and now I got gut punched because of it.
@@SpookyMarine I just rewatched. It's a lot funner second viewing haha 🤷♀️
ULTRA MEHREEN same here dude!
I liked it. I got Reylo. I got my reverse of Anakin and Padmé.
I can’t go see this again. It’s gross. I would watch isolated Ben / Rey scenes only
Somehow them saying "Palpatine" all the time felt weird
Khanatos Because he had absolutely no presence in this trilogy up to this point and he’s from a different era of Star Wars
Well, no one ever called him Sidous, except for Count Dooku I think.
@@Dethrider6 Luke called him Darth Sidious.
Yoda called him Darth Sidious.
It's never been said that much. He is usually called The Chancellor, The Emperor, or Darth Sidious.
They used ¨Palpatine¨ because of the memes, they only said Darth Sidious in the other two movies
You’re completely right, it made me like The Last Jedi more as well
Wade Wilson the worst is Attack of the clones. The Last Jedi wasn’t that bad, people were just too butt hurt about it
@Wade Wilson oh shut up
Wade Wilson it’s all matter of opinion, but I do know what good writing is and yeah there were some problems but imo, it’s not the worst
@Wade Wilson how silly are you? a lot of films we hate like transformers also has good acting, but even that isn't the WORST.
Nostalgia, fan fic theories and surface level understand of the themes of the saga: the movie
I'm a person who dives pretty damn deep into lore and I enjoyed it. I really liked that they incorporated some Force powers from the old EU as well. It was fun.
@@sirmarshall9521 I enjoyed it a lot too. It was a fun movie, and lots of cool shit happened in it. It was cool seeing the Force healing power of Baby Yoda come into play on the big screen. But it's also concerning. If seems a big OP and if anyone can use it could make death even less meaningful. Though it seems to require a really powerful force sensitive to use it, so maybe it's not gonna break the balance by existing.
Tiaga gets it
@@MrDestroyedSoulx Someone very strong with the Force is seemingly required to use it, yes, and it takes a lot out of the person to use the ability as well. Whereas Rey healed a possibly mortal injury in Ben, Ben died to bring back an already dead Rey. Though he and Rey had also had energy drained from them by Palpatine and Ben got chucked down a cliff.
@@Benjamin0119 Yeah, that's kinda what I assumed. I guess maybe Rey died because all the Jedi power in her was too much for her body to handle or something. Ben didn't get any extra back up power after losing so much of it. So it's possible maybe he wouldn't have died if he had his full power and wasn't injured. I do wonder if Rey had been the one to bring him back if she'd have also died. Like, is it a requirement for bringing back someone, a life for a life. Or is it just a matter of how strong someone is in the force and someone really powerful could do it without giving up their entire life force. And for that matter, is a life force finite? Or can it be revived through meditation and pulling in more energy from around her via the force. Like, is it like a spirit bomb from DBZ, basically. There's definitely quite a few unanswered questions in the film about how things work or happened.
I'm not disappointed just really underwhelmed. JJ played in safe instead of building on what Rian did.
@Bryon Schwarz in your opinion he did, everything JJ did made me appreciate TLJ more. I don't really blame anybody for how things turned out, more or less kind of bame the fandom because they demanded too much.
@@rogueguardian How is wanting good, well written movies demanding too much
@Autismo I said I enjoyed the film, it just didn't blow me away like I hoped, they aren't the same thing.
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 maybe if you did some research you would see that the last Jedi has good writing. Not perfect but good. Have your opinions on the films,
But I'd like to see you or any other fan try to direct a film half as good.
The rise of Skywalker feels like pure fanservice like 80% of the time.
So don't give me the "well we want good writing" excuse
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 ultimately this trilogy suffered the same fate. I still had fun and enjoy everything about it, the only thing I hate at this point is the fandom itself.
I think ROS is the weakest of the sequels in terms of a standalone film. Regardless of whether you like TLJ it doesn’t change that the movie is well made, as was Force Awakens. This one felt rushed and choppy
They tried to mash two movies into one because they wanted to ignore/undo all of the last Jedi, and it created a movie with some goods parts that are ruined by a rushed plot.
@@zachfakelastname just imagine if they worked the story so that the last jedi would have included the emperor's return into the movie and then left at a cliffhanger then this movie would have felt more natural tbh
imo as a stand alone movie, TLJ is ok, but as an entry in a franchise, it doesnt. It's like a selfish kid who doesnt care about others toys and brake them
Kytetiger they should have just had a plan for the trilogy and there would be no issues.
"In JJ we trust" lol
In Jar Jar we trust…
Rey: "Can I copy your homework?"
Tony Stark: "Sure, just change it up a little so it doesn't look like you copied."
Rey: "Thanks fam."
So now we’re going to say that every line that begins with “I am” rips endgame? Are you a simpleton?
How about a whole fleet arriving in jumping out of light speed to provide reinforcements to a losing battle?
Just because they made a sacrifice against the bad guys doesn’t make them similar. They aren’t similar in the slightest. Rey and Tony Stark are vastly different characters. A self sacrifice is a classic trope in story telling. Tony Stark was far from the first character to ever do it and he won’t be the last.
@@xELITExKILLAx it's actually extremely similar. It's a pretty blatant rip off. No one is comparing their characters to each other though, I don't think anyone would disrespect Tony Stark like that.
GreatfulGert Both movies have the main villain say something along the lines of “I am...(something evil and imposing)”
And the hero responds “and I am...(something heroic and empowering”
The similarity and the fact that they came out the same year, is too much of a coincidence. (Also, just a side, both have the heroes on the ropes and about to lose before a massive army from across the universe arrives to save the day)
When can we expect your review of chapter 7 of the Mandalorian?
I just wish the ending took its time, kinda like Return of the King.
"Here at last, on the shores of the sea, comes the end of our fellowship. I will not say do not weep. Not all tears are an evil." 😭😭😭
I was hoping for Rey to call on the Army of the Dead just like Aragorn did in Return of the King too. It would have been cool to see a ghost Jedi army come in the save the day.
I can see your point but.. I think for the most part, no one wants to see a 03:30 hour long movie (and this comes from a massive LOTR fanboy, both the Tolkien lore and the films). The ending was fine to me, very fitting, where all it began.
I think I'm one of the few that liked both The Last Jedi and The Rise of Skywalker.
I'm with you and the few
same here
You’re not alone.
Like it all you want but they are still bad films objectively.
I'm with you, I've loved all the sequels but I agree TLJ has its flaws
I completely agree with HelloGreedo, Rey and Ben are the best parts of the sequels
Kinda how Luke and Vader are the best thing in the other movies?
Ben Streeter Agreed. They’re without a doubt the most interesting characters and had the most interesting relationship in the trilogy. Any time they were on screen together I was riveted and they were easily my favorite scenes in every movie.
Rey not so much. She's too perfect. But Kylo Ren yes.
Except for the kiss...
@@theophanyfd5422 wrong
It has 86% for verified but the wider audience score is in the 70's. Note that Rotten Tomatoes changed so that only tickets purchased through Fandango are now counted in the verified score. An upshot of this is all of Disney's giveaway tickets are counted but overseas and cinema purchased tickets are not counted.
Cam Kret Plus how come all the verified accounts are the ones you can’t go in and view? Hm...
Rey’s fighting style in 7 already foreshadowed her being a Palpatine.
The aftermath books hinted at Palatine being a-life.
Snoke being a clone.. that one seems random
More random than some old powerful darkside user who randomly comes from who knows where to lead Imperial remnants? Nah. Him being created by Palpatine makes sense. Palpatine created him to lead the First Order until it was time for the Final Order.
did they say it was a clone? i remember him saying he made snoke. maybe it was more of a "i created him" as in "i teached him and told him what to do" like angry businessmen yell at someone they teached
seel fire there are multiple snokes in the cloning tank when kylo goes to meet palpatine
Chase Hildenbrand lol no that sounds terrible.
When Han showed up, I CRIED!
It felt like two movies in one, rushed, cluttered, should have been 2 parts, it focused too much on the wrong stuff, very much like last Jedi did really, keep the focus on rey, kylo and the main villains, everything else ( the resistance ) is just boring and tedious
I wish we had more Ben and Rey. They needed a happy ending.
Han, Luke and Leia died for Ben and him dying anyway feels like a slap in the face.
Byrd156 I like the ending we got. Regardless of whether or not Han and Leia forgave him he still killed countless amounts of people. I just can’t see a happy “ride off into the sunset” ending for him.
I agree, they should have either both died and been the last of the sith and jedi or both be alive and create something new.
Agreed
@@prideaccomplishment6344 I don't know, his arc is just so Vader-y in this form. Not saying he should get of free, I think exploring the idea of atoning for your actions is something Star Wars hasn't done much, and could be interesting.
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Greatest outro to a video ever
I have the same feelings you do 👍 nothing wrong with being in the minority...I’m right there with you.
Although it was a giant mess, I enjoyed it, it had some cool moments
@arti l I liked the last jedi. ROS has many dumb stuff in it
I liked it a lot, but more than liking the movie I liked the positivity that the fans are having as of late, with mando, fallen order and now rise of Skywalker
Well... TROS has quite a lot of negativity surrounding the film.
NexusGamer yeah it’s from all the Last Jedi fanboys for the most part. The audience score shows otherwise
@@Backtothezack You could almost say that that group deals in absolutes.....
@@Backtothezack nah, I didn't like The Last Jedi or this film. Although this film has made me retroactively appreciate TLJ more, even if I still don't like it.
NexusGamer a lot of the big Star Wars youtubers are giving it positive reviews ie Star Wars theory and in comparison to how the last Jedi was taken it is quite positive
I tried to feel like I was back to being a little kid again. I loved the movie.
I like this trilogy a lot, despite everyone else saying I shouldn't
Its OK to have bad taste.
@@RappelKarton One man's trash is another man's treasure.
It's good. No more, no less.
Worst Star Wars film? Not by a long shot.
First impression is it’s my #5 out of the 11 live action films. It was a good time, if imperfect
The sequel trilogy is the worst trilogy
Autismo I can’t for the life of me not fall asleep at least once watching the prequels
JOEY N. HERNANDEZ idk what you’re on but the prequels had the best action scenes but that’s cool
@@shyamshah7101 And the best lore.
**Potential Spoilers**
Honestly, I didn't mind it. The first movies I ever saw were the original trilogy, which got me hooked onto Star Wars. I appreciated the prequels and watched them way too many times growing up as a kid. Yes, there are parts in the prequels that are a stretch, but they don't completely turn me off of the whole trilogy. I've had the same feelings with this sequel trilogy. I was somewhat disappointed with The Force Awakens, seemed like it was just an updated version of A New Hope. I enjoyed about half of The Last Jedi. I wasn't a fan of the whole Canto Bight "arc" of the story, but it didn't ruin the movie for me.
Going into this movie, I had pretty low expectations based on the reviews I heard about it. However, after watching the movie I feel like it was executed as well as it could have been given what JJ had to work with following The Last Jedi. The fans were divided, people were apprehensive of all new Star Wars content, and JJ knew this. He did his best to satisfy all fans, I feel.
The good:
- I enjoyed the development of Rey's skills, and the fine line she keeps walking in regards to slipping towards the Dark Side. The force healing power was seen in The Mandalorian, and although some were saying that its a huge plot hole since the Jedi never used it before this point, it isn't too far fetched that Rey, the granddaughter of a Sith Lord, could have the power to do this. Same thing with the force lightning.
- I also enjoyed the dynamic between Poe and Zorii Bliss. I thought it was well executed, and opens up the possibility of getting some backstory on Poe.
- I loved how all of the Jedi voices spoke to Rey. This is most likely going to be considered fan service to most, but I thought it was tasteful and presented an opportunity to tie in the prequels a bit more to this sequel trilogy.
The bad:
- I wasn't a huge fan of the Reylo ending, it seemed a bit forced to me that they are this emotionally involved. After everything that Kylo has done to Rey and her friends, I find it slightly hard to believe that she would forget it all in the course of like, a couple hours.
I feel that the thing that is bothering fans the most is how bringing back Palpatine has ruined Anakin's arc, but I don't believe it has. Anakin did redeem himself and "kill" Palpatine in ROTJ, and in doing so he saved his son and daughter from death at the hands of the Empire. He rose and fell, and ultimately redeemed himself. We cant expect that since he was the chosen one and brought balance once that the galaxy will forever remain in balance. And even still, he continues to bring balance by speaking to Rey and helping her do what needs to be done. I don't think that this movie ruined anyone's arcs. And the bottom line is, Star Wars was never about a single characters arc anyways. It has always been the struggle between the light and the dark, between good and evil. This movie encompassed that well, in my opinion.
Anyways, that's just my opinion on the movie. Some may agree, and I'm sure many will disagree. But in the end, we are all Star Wars fans in some way, shape, or form. And it's useless to be fighting with eachother over our opinions. :)
If I were to pick favorite scenes:
1) The Star Destroyer escape up until the Rey Palpatine reveal was fun; reminded me a lot of what I think Rise of The Resistance must be like at Disney World. I was super happy to see Hux revealed as the secret spy, since it fit his character pretty well.
2) Speaking of which I liked seeing the oppression of the troopers knocking door to door on the planet in the scene prior to that. It gave the First Order some much needed threat credibility.
3) Kylo's redemption and return to the light as Ben Solo was a blast.
4) That freaking Harrison Ford cameo during Ben's redemption. That along with all the Jedi voices Rey heard were great.
Now for my nitpicks...
1)Reylo. My mom was sitting next to me and she said "Ewwwwww" aloud at that kiss. Why? The film was hinting that Finn had something to tell Rey the whole time, but it never came out. Was Finn about to confess his love to Rey? Where did that plot vanish to? If it wasn't for Zorii Bliss, I'd dare say Poe had more chemistry with Rey than Rey had with Kylo. It might have been more meaningful to me had Ben saved Rey by sacrificing his life for her; but leave it more of a platonic gratitude than trying to romantically link the characters, especially since one dies seconds later.
2) Rey Palpatine. *Breaths in* boi. I came to love the idea that Rey truly came from "nobody" that TLJ presented. Making her Palpatine's long lost grand daughter killed that for me. Sure it wasn't the expected Rey Solo or Rey Skywalker or Rey Kenobi twists people were talking about back in 2015/2016... but I much prefer Rey "Nobody" than Rey Palpatine. Admittedly the idea is saved somewhat since Rey proves she is her own person by adopting herself as a Skywalker and rejecting her grand father's heritage... but still... did we really have to link her up to a famous Star Wars family? Also... prune face Sheev Palpatine canonically had sex now. That feels icky, the same type of icky I felt reading Harry Potter and the Cursed Child and discovered Voldemort and Belatrix Lestrange had a child together. Like Sheev Palpatine and Voldemort were the last two characters I ever wanted to know about the existence of their sex lives, and it haunts me.
3) The massive spaceship battle was a wasted opportunity. I was so excited to see all those ships in a big battle, but the cinematography was so busy I never got the chance to really pin point what was really happening.
4) So many logic holes in a lot of sub plots... to many to count here in this one comment.
5) Other than Han's memory (ghost?) presenting to Ben on the Death Star II ruins... I can't think of a lot of "wow" cinematic moments. Last Jedi had those in spades, Yoda and Luke at the Burning Tree, Luke's Astral projection on Crait, the Holdo Maneuver, the duel in Snoke's throne room. Or from the other media, take for example the Battle of Scarrif in Rogue One, or Mandalorian's introduction to "The Child". All creative well shot moments that really grab your attention in the audience. Or to mention the Marvel movies... scenes such as Captain America summoning Mjolnir. There really wasn't many scenes in Rise of Skywalker that managed to excited my imagination and grab my interest the same way, it all sort of seemed generic. Our audience was in the theater bit tepid too, and that certainly lessened the impact of many of the scenes.
Very well said. My thoughts almost exactly
I liked it but didn't love it. That being said, I'm heading for the bunker so that I can avoid the discourse. Let me know when it's over....
Good choice - guess I’m an idiot for sticking around to see the fan wars, eh? ;)
@@mycubiclepenguin868 I learned my lesson 2 years ago, I don't want to lose anymore of my sanity over it.
I’m still buying the 4K just to complete the saga. Why? Because I’m a completionist.
Yeah man I'm right there with you 😂
I look forward to being able to talk about it in depth 5-10 years from now once the drama has died down...
I agree with a-lot of what you said, but I think in the end the parts I liked outweighed the parts I didn’t, having the group all together, having an adventure and listening to their banter, really put I smile on my face.
I’m really curious to see your opinion after you watched a second time, because it actually improved my enjoyment of the movie.
I agree
My enjoyment of some scenes outweighed the frantic mess. The more I've watched this trilogy the more I've liked it. I'll have to see how I feel post TROS BluRay.
@@CountFeedback Some people have complained about the pacing, but I would say its better paced than some Attack of the Clones. I will have to watch it again before I have a final opinion, though.
I feel like the movie got more and more boring each time I watch it.
I can't forgive that suddenly Palatine had family.
I mean, have you seen the EU?
Nah. Clones. His body is a clone that was too weak to contain his ghost, hence the decay. His "son" is a failed clone that wasnt force sensitive.
Yeah, they wrote that stupid justification in the novelization of the movie. But nowhere before it had an explanation. Still dumb as fuck.
When I saw the cloning stuff I had the deepest sigh
Idk why people act like George is a final say or anything, he pitched for Luke and being hermit-like in TLJ.
Yeah I fully support that, which is why when people say “this isn’t what George Lucas would’ve wanted” and stuff, it doesn’t make sense to me.
@DejaVoodooDoll "But it was okay when Legends did it"
I literally out loud said "oh come on"
Kylo is my favorite character now
Love your vids man, keep it up
Well I like it, it have problems, but it was fine to me.
That's the problem, star wars was about something unbelievable, not just fine.
Martín F. León Avila I agree. Just want to point out that not being unbelievable does not make a movie bad. It just makes it not unbelievable. Like fine.
7:30 Lets be honest here......none of this was planned
I think it helped that I had seen the 58% positive before going in, so I had my expectations low. I definitely liked this movie, but I feel it would have been better if it was about 40 minutes longer. Some things needed further explanation, and a lot of things happened too easy. 40 minutes more, and it could definitely be a perfect finale to me. I didn't want something that pisses off fans even more. I wanted something that unites us, because damn am I just tired of fighting. It seems to be doing that. And I love it.
Honestly tho. If i had a time machine i would try and convince disney to let jj do all 3. To me the biggest drawbacks of this movie can come from the root of jj having to fit 2 movies into one and also "right the wrongs" of rian.
Lol maybe is jj did all 3 theyd be just okay at best, but at least they'd be together. That was sort of the message of the film i guess. Power in numbers and family or whatever
@@mans4720 I'm glad tho.
Now we've got knives out because of Rian's failure in star wars. It's awesome!
To make this movie better would be simply to have a shot with all the fallen Jedi behind Rey when Rey is killing palpatine. It would have Anakin and Luke just with their hands out or something so it’d be like they’re helping. Not only them but since it’s ‘rise of SKYWALKER’ it’d make sense to have them help in the final kill. We have the voices of the Jedi why not just have them all on screen. I think that would be brilliant fan service and would really make anakins being the chosen one just be perfect and fans would just eat that up. Also the last shot of the movie should be over the shoulder of Luke and Leia looking at Rey. Kinda imo this would have been a much better final shot in the story of SKYWALKER. It was an okay-good movie imo but not a finale of 9 films. This I think would’ve tied it up nicely
I wanted to see this too!! It was such a powerful moment so to actually have Yoda, Mace Windu, Qui-Gonn Jinn, Obi-Wan, and a young Anakin among many others would have made it PERFECT! I absolutely agree with you.
i cannot agree more i really wanted anakin to seal the deal since he was the chosen one and was set to bring balance
I was praying it wouldn’t happen, that would have been like a fanfic
Sort of like Harry v Voldemort. And that's ok. I agree with you. It would have been more climactic. I also don't think Rey needed to be a Palpatine. That if you swapped Palpatine for smoke and made smoke Darth plageus it would have been better
I thought the same thing when I saw this scene!! I kept waiting, hoping they would all show up, but I’ll take what was given...
I was very disappointed, lots of cool stuff but no cohesion. Feels like it undercut Vader's whole arc.
i thought it was ok too. didn’t hate it, didn’t love. wasn’t a big fan of rey-kylo, but it was fine (i liked rogue one). i had some issues with the story but i think i had more issues with how it was directed (pacing, how shots were chosen, etc). overall i liked it more than disliked it, and that’s ok
It felt like a movie that needed 3 hours to let everything breathe
I liked it way more than I thought I would. JJ Abrams was in a very unenviable position having to direct this movie. He knew full well that he was damned whether he tried to take an innovative or a conservative approach and I think he did an admirable job navigating both. That being said, the pacing was awkward. There was a lot of shoehorning in an attempt to contextualize most of what the Last Jedi had to say. But in the end, taking an apologist approach to storytelling is probably not the best way to make the concluding chapter to a 42 year epic. I agree with you that the Rey/Kylo interactions were the heart of the story and I would have liked to see more of that. I never warmed up to Poe or Finn, they always felt like cyphers to me. Nothing against Isaac or Boyega, their talents are indisputable. I always chocked it up to poor writing. I was left a little perplexed by the Force Awakens. I expected more from JJ and Larry Kasdan. I saw what Rian Johnson was trying to do with Last Jedi and I applaud his desire to move the saga in new directions, but it was poorly executed and left me wanting. I like Rise of Skywalker the most of the sequel trilogy of films, but (and I’m sure I’ll get shit for this) the sequel trilogy felt less like Star Wars than the prequel trilogy. I think the reason for this is the absence of George Lucas. Now please hear me out. While Lucas has a LOT of short-comings as a writer and director, he has an unparalleled imagination. George Lucas is a great idea man. His attention to detail has also made him a first-rate producer. The one thing I feel the sequel trilogy has lacked is a consistent vision of where the story should go. Much like Rick McCallum has to share a lot of the blame with Lucas for the flaws of the prequel trilogy, Kathleen Kennedy has to shoulder the responsibility for the sequel trilogy’s deficiencies. Bringing in big-budget auteurs seems like a great idea, but a post-Lucas ‘Star Wars’ trilogy needs more than a ‘visionary writer/director’ and a laissez-fare approach. This is why the concluding third of the greatest intellectual property of all time has divided its fandom in a way we never could have imagined. That’s my two-cents. Now, Favreau, give me more Mandalorian, like now!
This is definitely the most solid take I’ve seen in these comments.
Rey Palpatine... also known as how to remove agency from your character....
Rey... I am your grandfather!
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 forget watching did JJ even understand The Last Jedi.....
@@captainjjb84 I think JJ very much disliked The Last Jedi.
@@BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Maybe he did, maybe he didn't. Who knows. Is it bad that I want to see what Colin T.'s movie was gonna look like now?
@@captainjjb84 No, I kinda want to see what that would've looked like to.
It was like they used a ton of fan fiction and put it in a movie
I really liked it. Fun adventuring. 9 out of 10 for me.
What the hell was that terrible hippie wig they had poor Mark Hamill in?! His hair did not look that bad in TLJ, who allowed that?
I thought it looked better than the hair from The Last Jedi.
Forget about Mark. JJ asked Harrison to be in a scene and he said sure but I ain't getting a haircut lol
Id be interested in your opinion on the general character development. Ray's powers feel awfully unearned, Fin didnt get to do anything, Po is the same person he was before.. he doesnt get to become the greatest pilot, he just says smug stuff. The established supporting cast had more impact than the main cast... it's just a confusing mess that left me feeling empty and uninterested. The feeling I get after the 3 movies is that we have seen them all before.. but better so what is the point of ever revisiting this trilogy? It's confusing that Star Wars seems nothing more than rebels vs empire + deathstar.. like you have a massive universe with endless creative freedom to explore and yet it boils down to "I know that, therefore I clapped and cheered"
On another note: The prequels are bad but at least they had an overarching idea, a vision, a connection and at the same time a clear distinction from style and characters.
I've never agreed more with you Greedo, and I agree with everything you say
It was ok. But some story decisions had me saying why?
Most can be blamed on ep8 but not having anakin actually showing is a big ep 9 issue
@@CrackedTubeGamer yea i did seem like a lot the decision were made bc of the hate for last jedi.
Basically jj tried to hard to please fans after many hated last Jedi. I think you should please fans but not go over bored and stick to making n entertaining and well written story. When I see the film myself later I’ll give my full thoughts but I just hope Disney learns from this. Good review btw.
I actually think all the Last Jedi hate actually made this movie suffer. You could tell that they were trying so hard to "Win back" fans with The Rise of Skywalker, instead of continuing the franchise in the direction Rian Johnson took the story.
@Bryon Schwarz That's not what I'm saying at all. I'm saying that I think TROS could've been better if JJ just stuck to the story Rian told and didn't focus so hard on being an apology for The Last Jedi and retconning so much of it.
This made TLJ look like a master piece.
@Bryon Schwarz you sir come off as in-cable of understanding cinema.
I think people will realize now that The Last Jedi was actually a good movie, and that people just didn't like the direction it took the story.
are you just silently moving around the house and sitting in front of the camera silently then adr-ing the audio dub right in?
I’m in the camp that loved it. The second the credits rolled, I was honestly crying happy tears. I felt it ended the saga fine, and made me happy to be a fan of the show.
I feel like im in the minority group that likes this movie and the last jedi almost equally
I feel the same man. I have a feeling a lot of people don't actually understand these movies
I’m with you........The Rise of Skywalker does not damage or undermine The Last Jedi anywhere near as much as some are saying.
@@SCHEFFyt People who actually understand movies and are passionate about film will hate this movie. If you love the medium these Disney Star Wars movies are an insult to anyone who loves good films
Yeah I think TLJ more but I definitely liked this one
I like TLJ a bit more, but TLJ and TROS are my two favorite non OT films
Damn that’s a nice house
You said it best: This movie definitely makes me appreciate The Last Jedi so much more.
Bryon Schwarz To each is own player.
Brutes Willis TROS is essentially fab service and I am saying this as a positive. J.J. played this movie safe.
Lol I hate them both
Yikes.
I both agree with you and disagree. I liked the Last Jedi and have been a defender for the same reasons as you for the last 2 years. But I also still really enjoyed myself when I saw it a couple hours ago. Yeah, it retcons things and undermines stuff Rian did, (just as he did to J.J to be fair) hut I'm okay with it overall. I like the fact that it was more like TFA. Which was the film I liked best of the first two films. I like how some of the questions I had were finally answered. And as much as I liked the idea of Rey as a nobody, I also feltckije this works better. It explains why she's so powerful, and explains the immediate connection Rey and Kylo have the moment they meet in TFA. I completely agree that all of their scenes were the best parts of this movie. I felt that way last time with TLJ as well. Their force connection stuff was my favorite part of the movie. There's some things I felt disappointed by though. Not enough force ghosts. No Obi-Wan, no Anakin, or Yoda. I'd have preferred a ROTJ scene with all the most important Jedi force ghosts watching on. I wanted to see Hayden play Anakin once more before it was the end of the saga. I like that J.J didn't just completely disregard everything Rian did. He kept the force connection as a key plot element, which was one of the best parts of both films. I wish Leia had been able to have more screen time. But I understand her death tied their hands and I was happy with how much they managed to do with her in the film. I also wanted way more Luke as a force ghost. He didn't really taunt Kylo like he had promised. Which was a disappointment. I liked that there's actual lightsaber fights again, there wasn't a single real lightsaber fight in TLJ. I was surprised that Rose was basically just cut out of the film and her relationship with Finn was almost non existent. It just further makes me feel that this entire movie was a massive course correction to address fan criticisms of TLJ. And it seems to have worked. The roles are reversed now. Critics are butthurt and giving bad reviews. And fans are giving positive reviews. Which I think in the end is preferable for Disney because fans are who they need to show up to make money. The theater I went to wasn't even full and it had only been out for a day so far. My parents were able to buy seats right next to mine in the back row, by the middle even though it was last minute. So clearly a lot of people just weren't as excited as they were last time. When I saw TLJ it was far more packed. Though I also saw it on Thursday instead of Friday last time. So maybe it simply sold out on opening day or night. I saw it at 3:30 too, so not exactly a night time showing so maybe there's more people later in the day who showed up. Either way, I think I've said all I have to say on the movie for now.
Rian didnt really undermine anything JJ did, he just continued it in a sometimes unlikely way
@Joshua Ross Yeah, no kidding. I guess for now I'll just maybe hold out some hope that we might one day see some cool force ghost deleted scenes or something. Maybe it won't happen, but until it doesn't I'm gonna hold out a little hope. There's several things I would like to see in a deleted scene. For one, what the hell did Finn want to tell Rey?! Why was this a recurring reference for so much of the film and then just forgotten about?! I want to know how the hell Maz got Luke's original lightsaber. Off hand, those are the two main ones I can think of. Can you think of any you'd want to see to tie up any unresolved loose ends? Either from this trilogy or the other 2.
I don’t really like how the skywalker line is now completely dead
Yeah they really chose the worst title.
@@nameynamename3758 They chose that title because at the end of the film Rey takes on the Skywalker name thus becoming Rey Skywalker.
A point I shall neither attack nor defend at this time. However, that's why it has that title.
@@enderkingdev368 Identify theft
That's all JJ could do because TLJ killed Luke.... this trilogy shat on the originals. If we god rid of TLJ and turned TRoS into 2 movies and cleaned it up just a bit, it could have been a great trilogy.
@@nathangibson2114 Or he could have, like, kept Ben, the final Skywalker, alive.
I was utterly entertained and left the theater with a massive grin. The end. 👍🏼
Exactly
I loved the film, it’s one of my favorites for me, but I will agree that it felt a little fast, but that didn’t hurt the film for me
I think this whole sequel trilogy has made me appreciate the prequels more
JJ Abrams seems like the kind of guy who would fly to Naples only to eat at Pizza Hut.
I love that you're explaining your opinion in a peaceful manner. I honestly loved Rise of the skywalker. I think it's a fantastic movie
It's not. It's boring in large chunks with predictable outcomes
Not a fan of the movie myself but I'm glad you enjoyed it.
Really well said, “TROS made me appreciate TLJ that much more”. I don’t hate any Star Wars movie, but you are spot on in your review. Complete sidestep, and I walked out thinking eh that was good. I remember reading a quote from JJ Abrams saying he learned from TLJ to take more risk, and TROS was the safest Star Wars movie to date.
I'm not going to sucked in by all the hype and spectacle - it was exhaustive, messy and devoid of the magic that made me a fan when I was a kid. it wasn't awful just recycled and bland.
The Disney trilogy had the best movie be their 1st, the ot's 2nd being it's best, and the prequsls final being the best.
So the next trilogy's 4th movie will be it's best
That is not a good sign
Wait
Trilogy.
4th.
Hol up.
Makes sense I guess
That's not how the trilogy works!
I have watched Star Wars movies since 1981. Star Wars was my first movie, I love the Star Wars series. The Star Wars saga is special to me. I just finished watching the Rise of Skywalker, and I thought it was a great movie. I did not appreciate the Last Jedi one bit. I felt that it was the worse Star Wars movie in the entire franchise, I felt it just did not care about anything Star Wars related. I especially hated how it squander Luke's story and his potential in the Star Wars saga. I wanted Luke to be Yoda frankly. I wanted wisdom not cowardice, I did not appreciate him being some indifferent hermit on a island. I felt that the Rise of Skywalker was a nice rebound from that horrible movie. Let me know what you guy think?
I 100% agree.
I have mixed feelings about it. I like that Luke was much different to Yoda. He wasn’t some grand master Jedi who grew up in the golden era. However I don’t like him hiding out on an island after making a mistake as I would imagine him to go and try to solve it immediately although that would be the fault of the force awakens no the last Jedi. Seeing what we have now, I’m glad it turned out the way it did since we have Luke being a hermit in the start of the Last Jedi and have him face Ben at the end and then we see him restored in the rise of Skywalker. I think it works well even though I overall hate TROS
This was a pretty rushed and a pretty fan fiction like film, Kylo Ren was certainly the best part, but it feels like Rian Took everything JJ had set up like snoke and everything and threw it out in the last jedi, now jj cam back and had no idea what to do so he threw the Emporer in there, you can tell now this trilogy didn't have a gameplan, that was its biggest fault, and it also just further diminishes the ending of return of the jedi, Rey hasnt earned the title of being the chosen one, that was Anakin, this new trilogy put the prequels into perspective for me, 1-6 is my complete story, this trilogy is just an add on, poorly executed, and especially the first 30 minutes of this film I laughed at how much exposition there was, this isnt a good film, its pretty damn bad, and kylo ren being surpreme leader and not taking orders from another higher up didnt last long, Jesus this trilogy is so messy, Luke was handled fine i guess and the leia stuff was the best they could do, and that han solo scene was just great, Rey taking the skywalker name and being the one to take down palps didnt feel earned even though she was a palpatine, it was just laughable sometimes how deperate they were to tie everything together
I enjoyed the film, but I agree that it feels like JJ didn't know what to do after TLJ. The characters didn't follow their natural progression and Rey didn't get any real answers during the eighth movie so it all had to be rushed into Rise
You nailed it. Completely agree with everything you said, also there was absolutely no reason for her to be related to Palpatine it’s hilarious, it’s mentioned in about 3 scenes and has nothing to do on the impact of the other movies. Pathetic trilogy TFA got me interested but absolutely no vision from where they wanted to be from day 1
This film was all about fixing what TLJ broke.
dkmenace1990 Especially when you consider that scene where Luke catches his lightsaber, which is a “fix” to that TLJ scene where Luke throws it away.
I loved it. It's a lovely, lovely mess.
I agree. I always prefer a lovely mess over a formulaic “perfectly made” film.
@Bryon Schwarz My biggest wish is that JJ would have either directed TLJ or Rian would have directed RoS. At least then we'd get a full vision.
Bryon Schwarz i feel like if they didn’t have only 2 years to release a follow up to TLJ there could’ve been a lot better story there.
It was a mess but i love it too.
Last Jedi is the best from the sequel trilogy
Without doubt
It's the most unique one, that's for sure.
I disagree solely based on the disappointing portrayal of Luke.
@@ravenevermore7338 But see this exactly why I believe Last Jedi criticism is no longer valid. The more I think about it, people don't criticize the movie objectively, they just complain about the story not going in the direction they wanted.
Not sure if serious or just trolling?
I understand why people said this movie is a “good Star Wars movie”, because every Star Wars film by today’s standards aren’t good films, hell the only Star Wars movie good for their time is the OG and Empire Strikes Back. These movies simply aren’t good, this isn’t the MCU or Game of Thrones, if you’re expecting that kind of quality you’re watching the wrong franchise. Star Wars is filled with clunky dialogue, questionable Directors and great lore, enjoy it for what it is.
Lmao since when are marvel movies good
MCU movies vary in quality.
A fine addition to my collection I agree with you, but we as a fan base are still satisfied and as a avid comic fan I can tell you they’re doing justice to the IP, unlike Star Wars.
marshkie This isn’t based off your view of the series, it’s based off the majority of fans, and clearly Marvel fans are satisfied with the Movies.
I will say that Endgame is the far superior final chapter movie to TROS
I loved this film yea it was fast paced but I kinda like that I wasnt bored its one of my top 3
1. Revenge of the sith
2. Empire strikes back
3. The rise of skywalker
im sure that in a few years people will see this movie like the most star wars movie, being average with good moments. and some really silly ones.
in the plagueis novel palpatine and plagueis were trying to create a baby by using the force but couldn't quite do it I believe. In the comics (also canon) they explained that anakin was created by palpatine who discovered how to do it. Doesn't explain why he used some slave woman on a planet he has no connection to, but whateva. So, it's canon he could impregnate a random woman. Question is, WTF is the deal with his son?
Did his son have powers?
It's John Palpatine, according to Vinny, a failed bounty hunter who ended up twirling signs on street corners to promote lemon speeder insurance.
See, I don't think the writers if Rise of Skywalker even knew that. I thought the same thing you did when I was watching. Why does she even need parents related to Palpatine. It could have gone exactly the way Anakin was created, and that would have made some sense without missing out on too much story or exposition as to how Palpatine could do such a thing. He's done it before, we could move along with the story now. But instead we get an unspoken of SON??? out of nowhere that's never explained and killed off!?!?! Like there already asking us to sustain so much disbelief with Palps being back, and then they top it off with a secret son. It's so bad.
What comic is that?
wasn't anakin created in response to palpatine rather than by palpatine?, as in when they tried to create a child via the dark side the force "retaliated" by bringing the chosen one into being, or is that no longer canon?
@@tpeack I honestly don't know. After the Disney acquisition that made a bunch of stuff not canon, I really don't care what's considered canon. Like we see Thrawn in Rebels wtf it's all so confusing now.
Thank you, Greedo. I don't entirely agree with everything here, but with the absolutely horrific state of Star Wars online discourse today, you're the best reminder to me that the majority of Star Wars fans aren't the ones tossing around insults, accusations of shilling, condescension, and harassment. You're an absolute rolemodel for this fandom.
So true.
Greedo is condescending all the time towards people who hate the TLJ.
Well most of the time they often either miss the meanings or think characters can’t change so.
@@peterparker8364 Nobody that hates TLJ has ever said that characters can't change, please give me proof of that.
When you say “that’s not my luke”, you’re implying they can’t change.
A glorious mess
Yep pretty much sums it up. Messy first half, some strange story decisions but overall its entertaining.
@Bryon Schwarz yep, that's how I feel about it. It's a mess, but only because TLJ did absolutely nothing to advance the story, so this film had to do it all.
I fully enjoyed it despite some of the awkward plot moments.
I really don't like it. I hate that the Skywalker legacy is turned into nothing but death, pain and being crushed by Palpatine. In my eyes, Palpatine won at the end. He was the cause behind the death of every single Skywalker and now the whole family is just gone. Ben should've lived.
And yeah, Rey took the name, but her being a Skywalker feels so meaningless. The only Skywalker she knew was Luke, he's also the one member of the family who she had the worst relationship with. Leia and Ben are Skywalkers, but by name they're Solos, so why would she not take the Solo name?
It's not a terrible movie, it has good moments, but in the end, I feel like those good moments are not worth the sour note on which the Skywalker saga ended.
Ikr?
Ben should have fckin lived
He just found his reason to be back
And then
He died because he brought back rey???
And then what?
What does rey do???
Nothing...
They should let ben to have a fckin life
I think they were just mocking reylo fans...
@TIG5574 so what?
Let's just kill him???
They didn't kill revan in EU
And still he killed thousand's of people too
I didn't say they forgot what happened
I'm saying his death was not necessary!!!
Plus
Millions of death?
What???
When?
@TIG5574 he didn't even killed jedies in the temple!!!
He tried to save them!
Do you bother yourself to read comics???
He didn't order to fire starkiller base
He just watched !
So how the fck did he killed millions of people???
@TIG5574 they even didn't show his force ghost!!!
Wtf is wrong with you???
The end of a saga needs a happier ending!
Just like ep6
@TIG5574 i didn't said anything about happily ever after, ok?
Just answer me
They didn't kill revan when they could have done that in EU
Ben killed his father because of the dark side
He is redeemed
I don't say that he didn't need a punishment!
I'm saying his death was too much of a punishment!
This movie was about giving a chance to anyone
Poe was selling drugs! And with your opinion he should have died too! Why you wont accept change???
I think this trilogy would’ve been better if Jar Jar Binks was in it.
I loved this but was meh on Last Jedi, you were meh by this movie but like Last Jedi. I thank there's a pattern. I think this sums up the people who watch this movie well.
I enjoyed both quite a bit but it does seem like there’s an ideological divide between the two films. The way I see it, subversion can make for a good fun film and fan service can make for a good fun film and I’m happy to be treated to either form of entertainment on any given day.
Numbername and I’m torn on both but choose to look at the good ;)
Yea same. Chris stuckmann gave the last jedi an A but this a meh. Seems to be a pattern.
I loved this movie!!
How I would save the ending, short version:
Rey beats Palpie, we think she did it out of love for her friends, but love is not a Jedi thing either. Passion is a Sith thing. Palpatine gets Rey's body but blacks out. Kylo resses the sidious inhabited rey, they kiss and ass kylo dies, her eyes turn sith. Having been the cause of the death of a loved one. Sidious and rey becoming one but rey is unaware of it.
Oor. She just keeps the name palpatine to redeem her family name. Juat cuz you're hitler's grandson doesn't mean you can't be better.
Regarding some of the fan favourite decisions made in this movie, this quote from a TROS review resonated with me:
"Having the people in charge of Star Wars’ legacy acknowledging their own inability to move forward is a sad way for the story to end. Even as The Rise of Skywalker’s characters claim their ultimate triumph, the film feels clumsy, hurried, and above all, like an admission of creative defeat."
www.polygon.com/reviews/2019/12/18/21024586/star-wars-the-rise-of-skywalker-review-spoiler-free
I wish the fresh, but still Skywalker- focused spirit of Rian's TLJ had been continued. But it actually felt dampened in favour of fantastic yet ultimately dull decisions. The simple Rey is no one, whom the Force has chosen to be someone was not my first hope but it was the truest and boldest choice for the character. Oh well...see you all in about 10 years.
They should’ve included Wedge in the celebration scene at the end
I don't know about that, I think that would be a spoiler for the audience that haven't seen The Rise of Skywalker since he's in the Millieum Falcon a gunner and a minor cameo.
Was it the best of the sequel trilogy
Yes
Could it have been much better
Yes
Could it have been worst
Yes
No
Yes
Yes