Completely agree with running the Don't bet through the DC, more reliable. Smart to be cautious with DP Come-outs. Extra layer of protection is limit of 2 Don't losses per Shooter. When you ran this through the DP, I tried a scaled down version on Bubble Craps & kept it Laddered up to hit a new profit mark. Had a great run, and now I know... I got lucky So I want to say, DO what Waylon suggests, and Ladder DOWN (or go to Base) at a reasonable profit mark. Patience & discipline pays off with this gem, let the 6/8 wins hit modest win goals, then walk
Just when I thought I'd quit the Dark Side, you show us how it works better with a DC! Gonna have to add this to my arsenal on my next cruise! Thank You, Sir!
So lost my $5000 bankroll twice on the original strategy on my roll out on my table.. rolled this out and still got clobbered on the PSO 🤦♂️… its like my table is the kiss of death 💀 Will still try it out on bubble craps tomorrow thanks for all you do my friend 😊 You put So much time and effort in! 💪💪👍👍👍
Excellent strategy and Randy must have left the building ...Thanks Waylon as always...That sure is the answer to back two back & sometimes three 7 reds in a row on the DC... ...As Waylon Jennings & The Highway Men🤠 would say, Let the good times 🎲roll🎲 while they can, ... ...Old Naples Florida, on the Gulf side🌴🎨
Waylon: this is a great way to play for sure. If your travelled DP or DC bet is the 4 or 10, a $30 bet would give you a $15 advantage. If your travelled DP or DC is the 5 or 9, your $30 bet would give you a $10 advantage. If it's the 6 or 8, your advantage is $5. You should use that knowledge to say, bet a hard 4 or 10 if the Don't bet travels there w/ a $15 bet (hopping and all day 4 or 10.). I was trying to explain this when discussing the butter burg.
Yeah I think it is better with the DC! Especially on crapsee, which seems to really love come out sevens. I've been experimenting with a variation on this, where if I get several hits on the 6 and 8 and I'm up over two units.and if my DC gets knocked off, I'll just leave the six and eight out there naked and try to hit it some more rather than risk three units when I put another DC up.
@@waylonswaycraps yeah that's a good idea too. You can make up for that hedge real quick. Good stuff Waylon. Can't wait to get to a casino to try it out. Doing good at home
@@waylonswaycraps i notice you use come bets like that in another video. Know that what you are doing here is hugely appreciated! I learned so much about craps from you. Tell all the ignorant haters to go f*ck themselves!!
The DP 678 and DC 678 work well in your videos. I tried the DP 678 in Vegas this past weekend and it didn't work for me. I kept getting 3 7s in a row an 11 then another 7. This happened twice. I was playing low stakes but it cleaned me out of my bankroll. On your videos, you never have a 7 that takes down all 3 of your bets. Yet when I tried the system, it happened frequently. Point 7 out would hurt the DC 678 as those seem to come often on a cold table.
I've never had a problem myself ! But yeah you can play it at any level or any amount! Play it at bubble craps if you like! The dollar level or 6,6&12, 30,30 & 60, 60,60 & 120 and so on
I like hitting the 6&8 asap that way I'm outta the hand! If you wait until the DC is set you lose more money overtime ! It becomes a break even kinda grinder strat if you wait because you miss out on alot of 6&8s
Being a hybrid hedger I don't like the see the vulnerability of having $300 with no protection at this part of your strategy @ 1:15 7 comes at this time and it's bye bye $300 This is crippling if you do this early. Like the strat but 6's and 8's need to roll. I've also tried this and then once I get a couple of wins I branch out to the 5 and 9. More targets to hit. Thanks for the video.
when you say all bets are working, do you mean you're telling the dealer to keep the 6/8 buy bets ON? I thought when there's no point established they automatically turn off. I'm a complete noob and never played live yet, so forgive me if I don't understand. Thanks
I tried this a year ago. Cakes it the Delayed 6,7,8. Did it through the DC for the exact same reason. Worked great a few times but man it got crushed for me more often than not. Maybe some laddering is the key. Maybe I’m just evil at finding all the blind spots!
PSOs suck for sure! If you can't shoot you can't win light or Darkside! I can't seem to make it lose myself ! I'm 5-0 on your daily paycheck with it! Gonna play it again this am
@@waylonswaycraps What kept happening to me was I'd have the 6 and 8 out there, and the DC would move to one of them and then get picked off on a repeater, and then I'm back in the DC and pop a damn 7. I just could never seem to get it to catch the right rhythm often enough to recover. But I also didn't ladder or parlay anything.
@@CasinoGamingTV once you hit a 6 or eight you're in profit even if the 7 comes! Ladder up on a loss and down on a win! You could hedge the DC if you like also with the 4&10 or hop 7&11! I was hoping all the 1s and 6s today as a hedge while in the DC ! That included the 6/1 and 6/5! I won everytime I think! I had the 2/1,3/1,4/1,5/1,6/1,6/2,6/3,6/4,6/5! You rolled one 6/1 seven and alot of the other numbers while I was in the DC ! Got payed double a couple times with the 6&8
Those come-out 7's showed up front how smart a play the DC is. Then you hit 3 points--that's $500 ahead right there! Great play Waylon!👍👍 Haven't heard you talk much about what old Randy is up to...how's he doin'?
@@waylonswaycraps Was sure he’d gone for a visit to your wood shed after he tossed that massive number of 4 & 10’s when you did the 678 from the DP! I could feel you wanting to stick with the strategy… then you Really wanted to put $50-$100 each on the 4 & 10 since old Randy was tossing one after another!
Awesome video Waylon. Another true story for you I was at the casino and I was down almost 1500 which was my bankroll for the day. I had 50 left and I put it on a 12 3 and it hit. They were paying me and I just said press the 3 with it all and they said are you sure Mr Neubert. I said yes because I am ready to go home. They said okay. Shooter rolled back to back 3s. And I said now you can color me up because I am ready to go. Tipped the shooter 500 and the dealer 100 and I called that a winning day. Kinda funny story. Lol
Yes but back to back 3s I have never put 800 on a horn in my life. I was really wanting to go home so the old lady could laugh and call me a loser for wasting my money. But when I got home she said so you won after being down all that money. I said yes and she called me a idiot and said give me money to go shopping. I said yes I am a loser and a idiot because I agreed to asking you to marry me. That didn't go over so well so I gave her 3k and said go buy more stuff we don't need. Lol. She said I want 4k and instead of arguing I just said here you go. But I don't know why you need to ask a loser for that kind of money. Lol. She left and said I hate you followed by me saying well I love you Hun. She gets more angry when I kill her with kindness and love. But that's life. Lol. God bless brother and roll tide 😎💪🏻
It saves you 100$ when the 7 comes ! It also loses 100$ when it gets hit ! Try it without it if you like it better ! Over my testing so far it helps more than it hurts but you never know in short term play
makes no difference.......me dont believe that ''dice memory'' nonsense its 6 out of 36...... ......all i care about is the math 1/6 chance of 7 ..........................i'll leave it to your boy john to justify that stuff.....................and DI too....................................math math math and math again..........bang those bad boys haaaaaaaaaaaaaard ,i dont care 😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗ddp1
I liked this alot from the DP. It just jumped a notch from the DC! Can't thank you enough. Health and peace to you and your family.
Ty brother! Same to you
Completely agree with running the Don't bet through the DC, more reliable. Smart to be cautious with DP Come-outs. Extra layer of protection is limit of 2 Don't losses per Shooter.
When you ran this through the DP, I tried a scaled down version on Bubble Craps & kept it Laddered up to hit a new profit mark. Had a great run, and now I know... I got lucky
So I want to say,
DO what Waylon suggests, and Ladder DOWN (or go to Base) at a reasonable profit mark. Patience & discipline pays off with this gem, let the 6/8 wins hit modest win goals, then walk
Well said brother
great video, your ideas and strategies are awesome. i definitely will give this a go.
Thanks for the roll out of this strat thru the DC!
Yw brother
I'll give it a try, I walked away yesterday with $1600 using the DP and had several come out 7'S. Great system, Waylon, right on.
That's awesome brother! Great to hear the good news
Damn Randy must have visited Golden Touch before the video...
@@jasonpompa915 he gets on a good roll sometimes
Just when I thought I'd quit the Dark Side, you show us how it works better with a DC! Gonna have to add this to my arsenal on my next cruise! Thank You, Sir!
Lol it's a lot better imo
So lost my $5000 bankroll twice on the original strategy on my roll out on my table.. rolled this out and still got clobbered on the PSO 🤦♂️… its like my table is the kiss of death 💀
Will still try it out on bubble craps tomorrow
thanks for all you do my friend 😊
You put So much time and effort in! 💪💪👍👍👍
I'd never play anything on you but a 500$ dp then
I appreciate the insights…
Gracias amigo. Going to try this in Reno next week💪
Goodluck brother
I came to this video after the first one I saw of the DP/DC 678 all day, and I think I like this one better.
Excellent strategy and Randy must have left the building ...Thanks Waylon as always...That sure is the answer to back two back & sometimes three 7 reds in a row on the DC... ...As Waylon Jennings & The Highway Men🤠 would say, Let the good times 🎲roll🎲 while they can, ... ...Old Naples Florida, on the Gulf side🌴🎨
Yes sir!
Thank u Mr.Waylon
Waylon: this is a great way to play for sure. If your travelled DP or DC bet is the 4 or 10, a $30 bet would give you a $15 advantage. If your travelled DP or DC is the 5 or 9, your $30 bet would give you a $10 advantage. If it's the 6 or 8, your advantage is $5. You should use that knowledge to say, bet a hard 4 or 10 if the Don't bet travels there w/ a $15 bet (hopping and all day 4 or 10.). I was trying to explain this when discussing the butter burg.
It loses money overtime but it can do really great at times too! So it's a judgement call really ! I have no problem with that at all
Another great one!!! This way is so much better than the DP
Yes it is I agree
Yeah I think it is better with the DC! Especially on crapsee, which seems to really love come out sevens. I've been experimenting with a variation on this, where if I get several hits on the 6 and 8 and I'm up over two units.and if my DC gets knocked off, I'll just leave the six and eight out there naked and try to hit it some more rather than risk three units when I put another DC up.
Yeah I'll do that too sometimes if my DC gets hit or I'll either hedge my DC with hop bets
@@waylonswaycraps yeah that's a good idea too. You can make up for that hedge real quick. Good stuff Waylon. Can't wait to get to a casino to try it out. Doing good at home
Would adding a continuous come bet work here? How about spreading out to other box #s? Field/iron cross?
Come bets would work ! Iron Cross not so much
@@waylonswaycraps i notice you use come bets like that in another video. Know that what you are doing here is hugely appreciated! I learned so much about craps from you. Tell all the ignorant haters to go f*ck themselves!!
Thanks.
Yw
The DP 678 and DC 678 work well in your videos. I tried the DP 678 in Vegas this past weekend and it didn't work for me. I kept getting 3 7s in a row an 11 then another 7. This happened twice. I was playing low stakes but it cleaned me out of my bankroll. On your videos, you never have a 7 that takes down all 3 of your bets. Yet when I tried the system, it happened frequently. Point 7 out would hurt the DC 678 as those seem to come often on a cold table.
All strats will lose ! Sounds like you had some horrible luck
The casino in my town only allows proper bets on the 6 & 8, so one could feasibly bet $60 each on the 6 & 8 and run $120 through the DC??
I've never had a problem myself ! But yeah you can play it at any level or any amount! Play it at bubble craps if you like! The dollar level or 6,6&12, 30,30 & 60, 60,60 & 120 and so on
Hey Waylon what is your opinion and experience on not betting the 6 and 8 till the dc is set? Keeps you from losing 3 bets on a PSO! ???
I like hitting the 6&8 asap that way I'm outta the hand! If you wait until the DC is set you lose more money overtime ! It becomes a break even kinda grinder strat if you wait because you miss out on alot of 6&8s
Being a hybrid hedger I don't like the see the vulnerability of having $300 with no protection at this part of your strategy @ 1:15 7 comes at this time and it's bye bye $300 This is crippling if you do this early. Like the strat but 6's and 8's need to roll. I've also tried this and then once I get a couple of wins I branch out to the 5 and 9. More targets to hit. Thanks for the video.
Thanks brother! You can always hedge if you like! Hedging loses more money than it saves in the long run However
you smart giy n o ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,most dont get dat
Christ is KING and Roll Tide.
Amen brother
when you say all bets are working, do you mean you're telling the dealer to keep the 6/8 buy bets ON? I thought when there's no point established they automatically turn off. I'm a complete noob and never played live yet, so forgive me if I don't understand. Thanks
Yeah you have to tell the dealer your bets are working on the comeout
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Ty
I tried this a year ago. Cakes it the Delayed 6,7,8.
Did it through the DC for the exact same reason.
Worked great a few times but man it got crushed for me more often than not.
Maybe some laddering is the key. Maybe I’m just evil at finding all the blind spots!
PSOs suck for sure! If you can't shoot you can't win light or Darkside! I can't seem to make it lose myself ! I'm 5-0 on your daily paycheck with it! Gonna play it again this am
@@waylonswaycraps What kept happening to me was I'd have the 6 and 8 out there, and the DC would move to one of them and then get picked off on a repeater, and then I'm back in the DC and pop a damn 7. I just could never seem to get it to catch the right rhythm often enough to recover. But I also didn't ladder or parlay anything.
@@CasinoGamingTV once you hit a 6 or eight you're in profit even if the 7 comes! Ladder up on a loss and down on a win! You could hedge the DC if you like also with the 4&10 or hop 7&11! I was hoping all the 1s and 6s today as a hedge while in the DC ! That included the 6/1 and 6/5! I won everytime I think! I had the 2/1,3/1,4/1,5/1,6/1,6/2,6/3,6/4,6/5! You rolled one 6/1 seven and alot of the other numbers while I was in the DC ! Got payed double a couple times with the 6&8
Those come-out 7's showed up front how smart a play the DC is. Then you hit 3 points--that's $500 ahead right there! Great play Waylon!👍👍
Haven't heard you talk much about what old Randy is up to...how's he doin'?
Randy still hanging in there! Even though he still catches hell from time to time
@@waylonswaycraps Was sure he’d gone for a visit to your wood shed after he tossed that massive number of 4 & 10’s when you did the 678 from the DP!
I could feel you wanting to stick with the strategy… then you Really wanted to put $50-$100 each on the 4 & 10 since old Randy was tossing one after another!
@@Listener827 I would've no doubt
Awesome video Waylon. Another true story for you I was at the casino and I was down almost 1500 which was my bankroll for the day. I had 50 left and I put it on a 12 3 and it hit. They were paying me and I just said press the 3 with it all and they said are you sure Mr Neubert. I said yes because I am ready to go home. They said okay. Shooter rolled back to back 3s. And I said now you can color me up because I am ready to go. Tipped the shooter 500 and the dealer 100 and I called that a winning day. Kinda funny story. Lol
See a horn lol
Yes but back to back 3s I have never put 800 on a horn in my life. I was really wanting to go home so the old lady could laugh and call me a loser for wasting my money. But when I got home she said so you won after being down all that money. I said yes and she called me a idiot and said give me money to go shopping. I said yes I am a loser and a idiot because I agreed to asking you to marry me. That didn't go over so well so I gave her 3k and said go buy more stuff we don't need. Lol. She said I want 4k and instead of arguing I just said here you go. But I don't know why you need to ask a loser for that kind of money. Lol. She left and said I hate you followed by me saying well I love you Hun. She gets more angry when I kill her with kindness and love. But that's life. Lol. God bless brother and roll tide 😎💪🏻
I like the DC better too.
Right me too really!
In order to make $500 a day you need to have the bankrupt to support it that's the hard part getting a bankroll
I have plenty of bankroll building strats on here brother
If you’re hitting 6 and 8 why do you need the DC?
If you're not hitting it lol
Why do you need the DC in this situation?
It saves you 100$ when the 7 comes ! It also loses 100$ when it gets hit ! Try it without it if you like it better ! Over my testing so far it helps more than it hurts but you never know in short term play
Good craps strategy but not so good for birth control(:
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those ''memory dice '' at work again dp vs dc.................where can this yankee buy me a pair .... cmon now.
What's your take on the DC vs the Dp? DC imo has a slight advantage on comeouts
makes no difference.......me dont believe that ''dice memory'' nonsense its 6 out of 36...... ......all i care about is the math 1/6 chance of 7 ..........................i'll leave it to your boy john to justify that stuff.....................and DI too....................................math math math and math again..........bang those bad boys haaaaaaaaaaaaaard ,i dont care 😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗😗ddp1