that's m*crosoft for you. I wasnt around to witness this, but I heard in the 90s and 2000s they were even worse. but yeah this is malware level of persistence.
Also another HUGE issue. Even for people who WANT to use edge uninstalling and reinstalling is a pretty common troubleshooting step. So if edge breaks you're out of luck. The Microsoft store was 100% broken for me for about 2 years and I couldn't uninstall it and reinstall it to fix it just like you couldn't with edge. I basically just had to wait until some random update re-wrote whatever file was broken/corrupted and it randomly started working again. Microsoft needs to realize that doing stuff like this makes people LESS likely to use their web browser. Not more likely. Sure have it install with windows, have it shortcut itself on the desktop, and have it give a little "You sure you don't want to try edge?" pop up when you go to download firefox or chrome. But anything more than that is scummy and borderline malware IMO. If you have to go into the registry to uninstall something then I consider it malware.
i had a glitch on my pc once where the microsoft store kept opening and closing itself rapidly, this made my pc unusable. and i had to contact microsoft support to uninstall it so i could use my pc again
Once i uninstalled the edge, after that day i cant play minecraft becuse that minecraft need edge or connected to it some how! And mc pc start to make weird things like being slow and programs dont open and i didnt downland any thing like its not a virus or anything, its edge! So i need to reset my pc. Screw you microsoft!
@@YenilmezcrowTRa lot of Microsoft store apps are actually web apps. SoundCloud for example. If you install it and right click while in the app, it will pop up with the right click menu for Microsoft edge along with the options for extensions… what it uses in called Microsoft Edge Webview, an intergrated striped down Microsoft edge API for running websites locally without the tabs and menus that take up the screen. It’s in the same folder as edge, so when I deleted it all, it also broke SoundCloud. The Microsoft store version of the MineCraft launcher might be the same way.
Your right that it makes the browser worse but they definitely wouldn't be doing it if it made people less likely to use their browser. This only affects the people who got their browser or ms store messed up
I like how they say "open PDFs in *your* browser" implying that you are still gonna use it for a weird link in some random system application that opens edge and searches in bing despite any defaults
@@Creativezitinho except when you use the highlight and search feature in Edge, then it’ll force you to use Bing no matter what the default search engine is.
@@Creativezitinho adobe acrobat or just chrome is better in every way (lets not get started with firefox). even for printing, edge wants a m*crosoft account
4:02 I think Firefox is better in this regard because it can somehow set itself as the default browser for all these file types without user interaction.
@@notthatntg you're right. Since Firefox is open source, most modern browsers could use the code as well. Nobody would care - only the fact, that they won't have to manually set their default browser. Also, if a boomer uses Windows 11, it might be difficult for them to switch to like Chrome, Firefox, Brave, or to Opera (no matter what, just don't use Edge. xD)
I recently installed chrome, and I got a “Switch to faster, safer, and speedier browser! Microsoft edge” and then three days later, my whole screen turned white, and it said “finish setting up your computer, get Microsoft 365”
Every once in a while when theres a little problem with your PC or they just decide to, they give you suggestions for OneDrive too. But Microsoft 365, I don't know why.
Also worth to mention that you get free edge install in every third windows update. Plus on every fourth defaults could magically reset back to edge :) And another fun fact what actually happened to me on windows 10, i have a small fight with edge that was coming back and when i finally fully removed it, ive got 3 errors everytime i opened up settings app (caused by missing edge like wtf you want to run edge process in bg while opening settings) and some minor system stuff was broken. But i was lucky enough to get fresh new edge again after next bigger quater update which fixed all my unwanted changes :')
@@snowmaske What do you mean? I was at the time being just a tad too simplistic, but there really aren’t many good reasons only one that comes to my mind this second is work is forcing you, otherwise I can’t think of one
I uninstalled Edge through command prompt and then prevented it from reinstalling from the registry editor. I used a random article I found, haven't had any issues since uninstall. Finally the ? button on my computer doesn't do anything
@@smolbirb4 I have a good reason. Third party programs to run Windows based program files. First thought you think is “so get the third party software” but my first thought is “why would I want to switch to a different OS that needs one extra step to run the programs I’m used to just because Microsoft forces Edge down my throat. I would rather stay on windows. Like I have the since the first day I used it.
@@overcastingdays I do understand that mentality, and it’s decently understandable, but I feel the pros outweigh the cons, most alternatives require minimal learning, and usually you can get a native windows program to work on Linux with enough tinkering; we simply disagree with the amount of knowledge required to be proficient or how compatible it is
@@smolbirb4 I’m also saying that I choose windows off principle. Sure Linux might be faster but I don’t see any difference. I wouldn’t see any reason why I should install a different is rather than just use the one my PC factory shipped with.
@@kissuthemoonlightfencer417 disagree. Of course it MAY be threaten due to "The Corporation of evil" reputation, but dev team is almost not related to big guys that already fused with their dress codes. Eventually other people check it out for malicious traffic etc. and the trust will return (what's impossible under Bill Gates' leadership). Data collection can be useful for recommendations, analytics, some crazy AI stuff and other, but as long as privacy is not followed people are edging on it
although, more and more programs are starting to support linux systems, and for those that dont, like photoshop, there are FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) alternatives (GIMP for example, for ps)
@@sorakafutanari and as someone who values customisability and extensibility, I really like how much power it gives you over your own system. (*cough cough* windows)
this is an older version of windows 11, newer ones have made browser switching much easier but still the fact that it begun like this was still very annoying
It is still not "that simple". Microsoft still refuses to switch all file type or address to another browser. For example, when you open a PDF, it still opens in MS Edge.
7:08 That's not a leftover of the now-uninstalled Edge Chromium by the way. That's a leftover of Edge UWP. You know, the now fully obsolete, useless, and non-functional version of Edge that predated the switch to Chromium? That thing is still part of Windows 11, albeit in a very crippled, forgotten state, to what should be no one's surprise by now. You need to edit the AppX repository database with an SQLite editor to unlock the ability to uninstall that one too, and then there's removing the Internet Explorer optional package leftovers using install_wim_tweak. After that, all visible leftovers of Microsoft web browsers are gone for good. It should now follow as common sense that if you were to forget to install, or uninstall any alternative browsers, you'll have no web browsers on your Windows machine, period. As it should be. Not to mention if you wanna debloat further, it might be helpful to start with a uupdump-built ISO of Windows 11 made on a Linux OS, since that one, conveniently, doesn't support provisioning the default appx packages into the ISO, meaning you start with no UWP apps aside from the truly critical system ones, like the start menu and Configuration apps. Edge UWP is still in that special top-most critical list, so you still have to manually delete it, but it's progress.
@@AyushTH Well, they already hide Edge UWP automatically when Chromium Edge is present, so why not do the same with Edge Chromium when any other browsers are installed? You know, the same way Windows Defender already disables itself when you have another AV on? Better yet, have an open WebView provider mechanism like Android that allows you to choose what browser is used when software needs to embed a web renderer inside its UI. Edge automatically reinstalls itself during Windows and Visual Studio updates, takes over the desktop when a new user first logs on, tries to force users to complete its setup process, then sneakily adds itself to autostart and remains in the background as part of its "Fast Start" feature, even though most people will be using other browsers, and Microsoft intentionally made switching browser associations more cumbersome. And there's probably other sins I haven't used Edge long enough to find out. It's awfully intrusive, and honestly pretty pathetic at this point. No wonder the thumbnail gave MS Edge a Potentially Unwanted Program malware moniker.
@@Silexium We live in the dark timeline where DR-DOS's predecessor, CP / M, was stolen to make MS-DOS, and Digital Research was brought to ruin. Microsoft were never the good guys.
You could use Winaero Tweaker to basically immobilize Microsoft Edge. I’ve also heard about people renaming theEdge folder so the system doesn’t know where it is.
Windows: _YOU WILL NOT INSTALL ANYTHING ELSE OR USE ANYTHING ELSE. DONT YOU DARE REMOVE EDGE_ macOS: _Here's an easy toggle to select your default browser permanently. If you disable SIP in recovery you can sudo rm -rf Safari if that's what you want_ Linux: _Remove the browser, remove the home directory, hell remove the entire init system and kernel if you want to I ain't stopping ya_
Windows 10 still has the legacy non-Chromium Edge that it will revert to if you remove the Chromium Edge, so you’ll have to delete that too in C:\Program Files\WindowsApps. I have to admire how MS puts out new versions before the end-of-life tbh, so before then the only benefit is which GUI is preferred.
IDK about 11. But On windows 10 enterprise LTSC edge is still a pain to uninstall but IE is still hiding in there if you want a default browser to just swap to.
It's not that hard to remove Edge right now. But in the future this is probably going to change as they integrate the browser tightly into the system causing it to lose functionality if uninstalled.
@@64_Tesseract Here are all current MSEdge relying components that instantly come into my mind (there are probably more): - Windows search (using legacy edge) - Windows Widgets (using chromium edge wv2 - Microsoft Photos editor (using legacy edge) - Windows emoji picker and clipboard history (using legacy edge)
Actually, probably not. The Edge WebView2 Runtime is a package meant for embedded Edge use, and it does not require the standalone Edge browser to work. I would be very surprised if they use standalone Edge for any integrated features considering they produce a runtime specifically for the application.
Maybe we reached that point: Don't know if it is normal but Microsoft Edge doesn't show anymore in my PC, neither in the Control panel nor in regedit and there is no folder in ProgramFile86 that is named "Edge" to force uninstall by Cmd. Although Edge pops out constantly and seem to run pretty well. Idk how to remove that shit 😭.
This is just one of the reasons I switched to Linux after more than 10 years of using Windows. The amount of tweaks you have to do to have a usable system is crazy. Seriously, it's almost like Microsoft WANTS users to stop using it. If I HAD to use Windows, I would probably switch to Windows 7, because every version released later on only worsens the user experience. More telemetry, more lazy GUI's slapped onto archaic code and more data siphoned from the user. I understand if people HAVE to use Windows for a certain purpose (the adobe suite for some reason, multiplayer gaming with anti-cheat or work-related programs), and if all someone does is sit in their browser, Windows is perfectly fine for that. But the moment I decide I want my system to work differently (maybe I want custom shortcuts or a different theme or I want to use the command line) I'm almost always met with the need to install some program from a website I've never heard of, or I have to completely corrupt my install to the point that I can't get the newest updates. Yes, that's something you have to do if you want to theme "your" Windows. It's sad to see a good operating system turn into a pile of lazy code and ads, and I hope that Microsoft one day makes such a huge mistake that it'll completely ruin the market share, because that's pretty much where they're headed right now with the decisions they're making. That was my rant, thanks for reading.
Exactly, every update is just slapping new graphical upgrades onto base code that hasn’t changed in decades. Not to mention that these “features” often end up breaking/worsening the user’s experience.
As a C# developer, I feel stuck in this situation. I’ve tried out many times Linux in VMs and on spare laptops and it’s amazing how much of a difference it makes, in terms of freedom and user interface, but I can’t leave Windows because of multiple reasons. I’m a C# programmer, but I use older non-cross-platform versions of the language to make most of my projects/mods, so running Linux wouldn’t give me perfect results. I also game a lot, but sadly not all games are available for Linux Note: for games I know there are compatibility tools and virtual machines, but I’d rather use native ports instead
The most insulting part is sometime after this video was uploaded, some genius at Microsoft decided to break the uninstaller such that neither using the uninstall option you enabled through regedit - nor 'setup.exe --uninstall --force-uninstall --system-level' - would do anything outside of a UAC prompt requesting admin privileges. I have confirmed this with Microsoft Edge version 107.0.1418.35 but if anyone has noticed the same behaviour with versions 104, 105, or 106, then feel free to mention said version of Edge with the same behaviour.
Hi, do you mind making a video to help me out? My pc is bootlooping and I’ve tried all the advanced settings like safe mode and making a new user on command prompt but it does not work.
I hate Microsoft for forcing you into their products, if you like it or not. They try so hard to make that you stick to their browser and OS, just because they want to have monopoly over all market shares. I couldn't install or boot into anything besides Windows on used PC I bought for little server project, I had to wipe the NTFS partition from hard drive just to make Linux bootable from USB stick because there was some kind of crap that tried to stop Linux from booting while Windows 10 was present on hard drive (and I tried several distros like Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, Arch). And on top of that they make that SecureBoot requirement for Windows 11 to install and have partnership with Lenovo to ship their laptops with chips that prevent anything besides Windows to be installed on them. I could understand that monopolistic approach in 90s or even mid-to-late 2000s, but now Windows is so dominant on the market that it doesn't need any of that nonsense, it is already in most households all over the world. Just give people some choice Microsoft, at least when they are using your system.
Same thing happens to my laptop, I can't boot from any Linux USB stick (although was able to boot from an MS-DOS one). I wanted to switch to Linux, but deleting the Windows partition is simply not an option right now.
There is nothing in Windows that stops or even would be able to stop Linux from booting from another drive other than Secure Boot, but that's part of your UEFI, not Windows
That PC I bought doesn't have UEFI, it only has American Megatrends BIOS from 2006, SecureBoot was introduced in 2011. There was definitely something on hard drive that prevented Linux from booting.
I like how you can activate windows with two simple commands but you can’t uninstall MS Edge no matter what commands you use or whether you run CMD as admin or not.
Edge is a good browser, but it _is_ pretty much a Chrome reskin. They both use Chromium and have a very similar layout. The thing is, MS tries to force it on us so much it makes you wonder why. Edit: thanks for new replies but y'all are a year late 🗿
@@dimitar.bogdanov but I was answering the question of why they would make it hard to uninstall - they want your data. Your comment is a bit of a non sequiter.
Let me guess, the next time Windows updates, it will see that Edge has been removed and put it back, and make it the default browser, in the name of "integrity of system files".
@@crusadertwo239 if the "new features" and "stability" you are referring to are about the hot messes Microsoft brings to my computer (and a lot of others') then yes, it does look like a joke to me.
Windows is very notorius for werd combinations when they just could use seperate oney. The dumb idea to combine the buggy and heavyly used file explorer and system ui in win 10 causes the ui to get buggy when big file operation are happening, or the explorer decided to crash spontanuiosly or because it didnt like a filename. It cant be that hard to make a seperate taskbar.exe?? like EVERY single linux DE i know of has a simple process for the taskbar, so the file explorer can lag or crash safely
@@wumwum42 uhh did you know that windows has an option to make processes for the desktop and taskbar and shit separate from the file explorer stuff? not trying to defend windows, just saying how dumb your comment is lmao
Ah yes, Microsoft and their amazing advertising strategies. I guess they'll never change. They never cared about their customers, they only care about the money, and that's what makes Windows so bad.
It's so annoying Microsoft does EVERYTHING to make Edge the browser of your system. It has set back to Edge as default so many times in the past. It even reinstalled it after system upgrades for me, when I used different methods to uninstall it since Windows 10 (even the "first" Edge version). Changing others to default was made extremely difficult and annoying for a reason by MS... I hate that so much!
I once just made a policy in a corporate antivirus that I managed that blocked Edge from loading. I didn't want to uninstall it, as there is the occasional, rare use-case of it, and I know how hard it is to reinstall if you ever change your mind, but I had far too many tickets of users using it, thinking it was IE (which was required for certain applications), and everyone was supposed to use IE or Chrome, as these were the only two browsers we supported and/or they were supposed to use. My support tickets for users accidentally using the wrong browser dropped like a stone after the change.
Well I'm not in favour of any company forcing you time to time to use their product. But it's not just MS that does this. Even Google too makes it nearly impossible to uninstall Chrome in Android, just it's not that annoying like in Edge's case and you can easily set the default browser to other. But Chrome is still there in your storage.
man FUCK google. Android is filled with bloatware and stupid "features" nowadays, and the cherry on top is all the spying to (with barely any consent, of course) sell that sweet, sweet user data. i'd rather use my fucking flip phone at this point tbh
You can't uninstall system apps because the system partition in Android is immutable. It's not like Google chose not to allow uninstalling it, it's just not possible. The problem is, you can't even disable Edge on Windows. Android always respects your default browser settings.
@@DanielClear2 Oh I see, didn't knew that. Thanks. I've got nearly no info on the inner workings of Android but I still think Google doesn't even try to make it uninstallable. I mean, it does profit them, as Android is free so they can only earn from their services which you get with Android.
@@user-dofjlkfxv4 Not true. Every OEM manufacturer also installs their own browser alongside Chrome in most devices I've seen in my country, be it Xiaomi, Samsung, BBK group companies or some other company, except Apple as they have Safari. And about commands, you probably need a PC to do what should've been possible to do with just a click or two.
@@FsKir i wasn't even talking about how it looks, i said that it has a one click apply feature. also, i like the interface much more than chrome. use what you want bro
5:59 You should disable the option "Use hardware acceleration when available" in the Edge to solve the problem that words cannot be seen clearly in the white window.
They are both the same thing. So you use a Chromium based that come with your OS to download another Chromium based browser and then look up how to remove the chromium based browser that is part of your OS? Although I use Firefox myself, I don't get the point of using Chrome over Edge.
The integration was so bad in the IE4 / Win98 era that I stayed on Win95 / NT4 longer than most people just to avoid having it on my system. IERadicator / LitePC / 98lite could remove it from 98 and some other OSes, but there were bugs in doing so, and just sticking with 95 / NT4 was way cleaner.
but actually Win95’s OSR2.5 and WinNT4’s SP3 were the first attempts for IE4 integration, and that attempt gave too much of impact. For example if you have a small business and you want to install Office 97 on workstations, be careful with installation because later version of Office 97 Small Business might had installed IE4 on pre-OSR2 PCs and pre-SP2 workstations.
@@NetzDotCom Win95C (OSR 2.5) installed IE3 initially, but when it gets to the phase to install IE4, just reboot to bypass. :-) As for NT4, it was also easy to just keep IE2 without updating key dlls even with Office 97. It may have had something to do with never installing Outlook or other components that I never use.
If you want to try another method, go to ‘Windows (C:)’, ‘Program Files (x86)’ and find the folder called ‘Microsoft’. Delete everything in it (you'll find all the MS Edge stuff in there) and then delete the folder itself. Empty your recycle bin and restart your computer. This method has kept my PC free of Edge for seven months now (as of end of July 2023) and the PC still works perfectly. Before this, Edge would reinstall itself every few days and I could only get rid of it temporarily with the "IObit Uninstaller" free software. I'm a retired plumber, not a PC expert, but I hope this helps you.
Okay, that is some BS right here. I get that Edge is a better browser now, but why force people to use it to a point that it’s really difficult to get rid of for any normal end user?
they are totally doing that so their competitors won't scrape your browser data to sell it to advertising and other companies (and scrape it themselves to sell it)
@@kellymountain ive found both fedora and ubuntu require pretty much no customization. ive actually run nearly stock fedora for months with no issues, and i would feel the same with ubuntu
huh. i didn't know the setup actually *had* the ability to uninstall, and that it was simply blocked. i thought to remove it you would need to manually delete it, clean the registry, and hope that there aren't any related files buried in the deapths of the os that can cause problems. i'm gonna start using this command pretty much every time i install an os from now on
It really doesn't, I dont care what they think I should be using to do what, if I want to hose my box by uninstalling a semi-critical part of the OS, I'm going to whether you want me to or not, standing in the way just makes the user have another reason to dislike you
@@deadair32101 i think I should say it differently It still makes sense for it to be so hard to uninstall and i think the average user would be more mad about it being uninstallable but trying to make people to get people to use something they dont want to use even after they said no multiple times is a shitty move
I did it too, but I used another method. This method is so much easier, thank you! :) Btw I hate their punishment to use their browser, because most people don’t know how to uninstall it. You helped them the rightway
Starting with MS Edge 105, it is no longer possible to uninstall it :/ Typing the command in cmd.exe does nothing, and changing the registry value does allow you to click on uninstall, but nothing happens afterwards. The only way to remove MS Edge now is to reinstall Windows, disconnect from the Internet and remove Edge before it automatically downloads v105 :D
honestly, Edge is a good browser i dont understand why people would swap it out for Chrome, plus every browser is practically the same, why do you need to change it?
it makes sense to have a browser as a system app, imagine if a novice user accidently uninstalled edge before having another browser installed, or if their other browser unexpectedly stopped working?
@@brunocamposquenaoeoyoutuber Even Android is A-OK with you uninstalling Chrome and Android System Webview, leaving you with no usable browser. Granted, the OS only lets you do it with a developer tool intended for testing, but still. And it doesn't have to be a total uninstall. Android allows users to disable noncritical system apps (among them Chrome and Android System WebView) and reenable them from the Settings app at any time. Microsoft could do the same, marking Edge as an optional feature users could delete and redownload from the Apps and Features configuration applet the way they can do with stuff like WordPad and .NET Framework 3.5. You can even uninstall Windows Media Player and Notepad that way, and there's even Windows editions without Windows Media Foundation. You could argue these are as much core Windows components as IE and Edge are, if not even more so.
Oh and it reinstalls during updates and turns on run in the background on its own. And has random tasks always running in task manager even if you don't allow it to run in the background or start-up with the pc. This makes me consider Linux even more. But I kinda like being able to do things on my pc lol
I do everything on Linux If you want to play games on Linux that don't have a native port, Steam uses Proton to make it run on Linux it works quite well
@@jsnotlout3312 Linux user here. I was on a constant switching for many years, from W to ubuntu, from ubunto to new W, from that to Kali, and so forth. Rn, im on Kali with hyprland. Gotta say, performance, resource managment, space, coding, browsing, security and anonimity, gaming, everything works flawleslly and thousand times better than what you could ever achieve on W with days and weeks of tinkering. HOWEVER, if you are really not that tech savyy or comfortable on spending some time installing, tinkering, researching and making everything to optimize it, Linux (any distro) is a huge pain is the ass. Its not so friendly for newbies. Dont get me wrong, it MIGHT seem complex at first glance, but its actually all pretty intuitive and easy, just, not easy enough for people that dont have a relatively good knowledge of computers.
I Uninstalled edge by going to Localdisk/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft/EVERYTHING IN THAT FOLDER. If it shows you an error about "cant continue because file is open in another program", open task manager, and close all the edge tasks, and then press "try again". now empty your recycling bin, and BOOM! edge is removed.
As a reminder Windows is pentimenti over pentimenti, so there's no way this can get better without outright redoing the NT kernel itself. Edge isn't a big problem compared to how the whole thing needs to pull a Longhorn to get itself together. For a reminder, the uploader did show what's supposed to be a "consistent" Win11, but......uh, Enderman you sure that is real and good enough? No pentimenti? Stable? No Edge?
i don't usually defend microsoft, but i will just this once. i recently accidentally set waterfox as my default browser on windows 10, and had to go through and set pdf -> sumatra, svg -> inkscape, html -> sublime, http -> firefox, etc. etc. it was very annoying, and i would have really liked my default browser settings not to influence pdf's, svg's, etc.
@@parknich081 somewhat defending their otherwise stupid decision to not allow browsers to set themselves as default, instead forcing users to do it manually i realise that is not why they made that decision, but it isn't the worst one they've made in my opinion
Just tick the "don't remind me again" button in Firefox when it asks. You are perfectly capable of manually going and enabling the https and http defaults for Firefox yourself, the browser won't complain. This point seems kinda redundant for a step a user takes once per installation 🤔. On Linux, upon instalation of my OS (Manjaro), it literally asks me what browser I want to install and default to. Why can't Microsoft do the same?
well yeah, the only good feature of Edge is that it allows you to install other browsers, but I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft blocked the websites of other browsers in the future
you can install browsers from your command line, atleast in an OS like linux, but Microsoft doesnt like you do that because then they won't have an excuse
i think the real reason why its so hard to get rid of edge is because thats the only browser you get when you install windows. without it, you cant install another browser. lol
Simple , just stick to Windows 10 for now , and remove all the bloatware from the operating system with revo uninstaller or similar app. It even uninstalls the haunted microsoft edge.
Worst part of this is that after an update Edge will install itself automatically into your pc if you get rid of it. Or even if you simply remove the shortcut from your desktop, it'll just pop up some time later.
Let's try to use "windows admin center" app! It's able to remove UWP apps which can't be removed from settings app. It's official MS tool for managing Windows remotely. Maybe it can remove Edge too.
@@tildejustin just because its based off chromium doesnt mean its just reskinned chrome. people actually tested which is better ms edge or chrome and it turns out edge was better
@winux If you like sending data to both Google and Microsoft, it could. But since I prefer Privacy over Performance I will pick Firefox. And also because I don't want big corporations to control the Web too.
"winget uninstall Microsoft.Edge" ( with WinGet ) or "setup.exe -uninstall -system-level -verbose-logging -force-uninstall" ( CMD in Edge installation folder ) should do the trick I think.
But how about "MICROSOFT-EDGE", "MICROSOFT-EDGE-HOLOGRAPHIC" and other proprietary nonsense which isn't reassignable and can be opened only in edge? even if it isn't present on the system?
@@Endermanch isn’t it Microsoft ““backported”” (but actually closed a hole in Windows 10/11 that EdgeDeflector would work on PCs with KB5007262 system “update”)? I tried to install it on Windows 11 PC (it was installed in spring 2022) and unfortunately, EdgeDeflector won’t work anymore (after it was installed, edge immediately started up and opened his homepage).
Hey enderman i am resetting my computer because i couldnt get 30 Gigabytes off Driver C how do i make it stop shouldnt everything should delete why it adds a 30 gigabytes out of nowhere (i have 119 gigabytes of C storage and 1 terabyte in D)
I once removed Edge from Windows 10 on my main computer by right-clicking the shortcut -> open file location and just deleting every file But it came back after like 5 days :(
I found edge to be easy enough to remove (as a power user or better), but its annoying that windows update reinstalls this malware once in awhile. Also the annoying process to set the default browser was Microsoft's doing, they broke the function used to set the defaults automatically.
3:50 Removing the ability for random programs to set themselves as the default web browser was good imo. Just make it a simple dropdown of "default web browser".
While I agree that there shouldn't be an API to set a browser default, I refuse to think that microsoft does have the option the way they have it for security purposes (and not just malicious compliance for anti-competetive guidelines)
I don't think this is a fair point to make since Edge is just built on top of the same UI as Google Chrome. Meanwhile, Apple does a lot to make sure only Apple approved apps run on iPhone, which hurts end users. And, also, to be fair, Microsoft still allows for the installation of Firefox and Opera from the Microsoft Store, meaning if Google wanted to go that route of distributing Chrome through the Microsoft Store, they can do that and set app defaults for Chrome.
Chrome used to be in the Microsoft Store but Microsoft has deleted it because it didin't meet the requirements for a web browser in the Microsoft Store
Why does everyone hate Edge so much? It’s honestly not even bad. The context menus looks way better than any other browser (transparency effects) and it’s the only browser where you can enable Mica on Windows 11, so it matches all the other built in apps. Also, it has the best implementation of vertical tabs
Yeah you have a good point. Sometimes someone has a specific needs (ex. low ram browser or maximum privacy). Otherwise why would you keep a browser that you never used for months.
If someone (Microsoft) is literally forcing me to use something, it's enough reason TO NOT use it even if it has features different browsers don't have.
@@a.nice_guy Mica is Aero but ugly. Way more ugly than whatever Windows 8 had instead of Aero. EDIT: My statement is incorrect, see edit of a reply below.
They have since patched out ALL methods of uninstalling it, on both Windows 11 and Windows 10, short of deleting ALL edge-related registry keys and deleting ALL edge files and shortcuts manually. The uninstaller now will either do nothing or, if you use the command line, open edge.
i feel like we all only use windows because everyone uses windows which is also why many programs are built to run on windows and not other operating systems
at one point they pushed out a windows 10 update that forced you to have a microsoft edge shortcut on your desktop on launch no matter how many times you deleted it. disabling this was the first time i discovered the registry
i just deleted it by simply pressing on open file location on it and pressing delete and now when i search it in the start menu it says i can install it
Umm, you misspelled the subtitle, "let's uninstall Chrome" when you were meant to say "let's install chrome". Lol
let's do it!
My bad
Can't wait to uninstall chrome. Oops chrome's not installed lol.
I like to think he just gave up on uninstalling Edge so much he was more bothered to uninstall Chrome instead.
Me when seeing it: Holy s×××, that is a dumb move!
this is like the "linux users installing a browser" meme but in reverse
Linux users uninstalling a browser
@water i use arch
perfect
@water discover store, still no terminal needed
Wget, the magic download everything tools
It's easier to uninstall malware than Edge
It's easier to edge than to uninstall malware (iykyk)
@@nerfcatss God please no
@@nerfcatss ermm what the sigma
at this point edge is malware
@@etot6064 fr
I love how this forces most users to download unsafe 3rd part uninstaller apps. Like Microsoft, this is practically malicious
Bought revo uninstaller pro some years ago, super useful app
iobit uninstaller is great but the popups are annoying
revo uninstaller is nice
that's m*crosoft for you. I wasnt around to witness this, but I heard in the 90s and 2000s they were even worse. but yeah this is malware level of persistence.
@@FsKir could've used a free tool to do the same thing
Also another HUGE issue. Even for people who WANT to use edge uninstalling and reinstalling is a pretty common troubleshooting step. So if edge breaks you're out of luck. The Microsoft store was 100% broken for me for about 2 years and I couldn't uninstall it and reinstall it to fix it just like you couldn't with edge. I basically just had to wait until some random update re-wrote whatever file was broken/corrupted and it randomly started working again. Microsoft needs to realize that doing stuff like this makes people LESS likely to use their web browser. Not more likely. Sure have it install with windows, have it shortcut itself on the desktop, and have it give a little "You sure you don't want to try edge?" pop up when you go to download firefox or chrome. But anything more than that is scummy and borderline malware IMO. If you have to go into the registry to uninstall something then I consider it malware.
i had a glitch on my pc once where the microsoft store kept opening and closing itself rapidly, this made my pc unusable. and i had to contact microsoft support to uninstall it so i could use my pc again
Once i uninstalled the edge, after that day i cant play minecraft becuse that minecraft need edge or connected to it some how! And mc pc start to make weird things like being slow and programs dont open and i didnt downland any thing like its not a virus or anything, its edge! So i need to reset my pc. Screw you microsoft!
@@YenilmezcrowTR are you a bedrock player?
@@YenilmezcrowTRa lot of Microsoft store apps are actually web apps. SoundCloud for example. If you install it and right click while in the app, it will pop up with the right click menu for Microsoft edge along with the options for extensions… what it uses in called Microsoft Edge Webview, an intergrated striped down Microsoft edge API for running websites locally without the tabs and menus that take up the screen. It’s in the same folder as edge, so when I deleted it all, it also broke SoundCloud. The Microsoft store version of the MineCraft launcher might be the same way.
Your right that it makes the browser worse but they definitely wouldn't be doing it if it made people less likely to use their browser. This only affects the people who got their browser or ms store messed up
In 2024, believe it or not, I'm using it and it's not that bad and I think it can be improved a lot with a key.
It improved something for me but not to attract attention and BNH Software helped me with the key
I like how they say "open PDFs in *your* browser" implying that you are still gonna use it for a weird link in some random system application that opens edge and searches in bing despite any defaults
you can change to google search
the only thing i use edge for is its pdf viewer, since its kinda decent
@@Creativezitinho except when you use the highlight and search feature in Edge, then it’ll force you to use Bing no matter what the default search engine is.
@@Creativezitinho adobe acrobat or just chrome is better in every way (lets not get started with firefox). even for printing, edge wants a m*crosoft account
@@johnsalamii
Isn’t it literally the Chromium pdf viewer
4:02 I think Firefox is better in this regard because it can somehow set itself as the default browser for all these file types without user interaction.
Yeah, I remember that they reversed the system calls that Edge uses. That's such a gigachad move tbh.
every browser should do this, chromium-based browsers just open settings
@@notthatntg you're right. Since Firefox is open source, most modern browsers could use the code as well. Nobody would care - only the fact, that they won't have to manually set their default browser. Also, if a boomer uses Windows 11, it might be difficult for them to switch to like Chrome, Firefox, Brave, or to Opera (no matter what, just don't use Edge. xD)
Using it to post this comment!
@@hrznn fax
I recently installed chrome, and I got a “Switch to faster, safer, and speedier browser! Microsoft edge” and then three days later, my whole screen turned white, and it said “finish setting up your computer, get Microsoft 365”
Every once in a while when theres a little problem with your PC or they just decide to, they give you suggestions for OneDrive too. But Microsoft 365, I don't know why.
install winaero tweaker
Also worth to mention that you get free edge install in every third windows update. Plus on every fourth defaults could magically reset back to edge :) And another fun fact what actually happened to me on windows 10, i have a small fight with edge that was coming back and when i finally fully removed it, ive got 3 errors everytime i opened up settings app (caused by missing edge like wtf you want to run edge process in bg while opening settings) and some minor system stuff was broken. But i was lucky enough to get fresh new edge again after next bigger quater update which fixed all my unwanted changes :')
@@snowmaske What do you mean? I was at the time being just a tad too simplistic, but there really aren’t many good reasons only one that comes to my mind this second is work is forcing you, otherwise I can’t think of one
I uninstalled Edge through command prompt and then prevented it from reinstalling from the registry editor. I used a random article I found, haven't had any issues since uninstall. Finally the ? button on my computer doesn't do anything
@@smolbirb4 I have a good reason. Third party programs to run Windows based program files. First thought you think is “so get the third party software” but my first thought is “why would I want to switch to a different OS that needs one extra step to run the programs I’m used to just because Microsoft forces Edge down my throat. I would rather stay on windows. Like I have the since the first day I used it.
@@overcastingdays I do understand that mentality, and it’s decently understandable, but I feel the pros outweigh the cons, most alternatives require minimal learning, and usually you can get a native windows program to work on Linux with enough tinkering; we simply disagree with the amount of knowledge required to be proficient or how compatible it is
@@smolbirb4 I’m also saying that I choose windows off principle. Sure Linux might be faster but I don’t see any difference. I wouldn’t see any reason why I should install a different is rather than just use the one my PC factory shipped with.
The only one way for Edge to become popular is to be as private as Hardened Firefox, not a fucking data miner like Google Chrome or Opera
@@YourCloseCoop still going to be treated as a malware as long as it behaves like one, no matter how good is it
@@kissuthemoonlightfencer417 disagree. Of course it MAY be threaten due to "The Corporation of evil" reputation, but dev team is almost not related to big guys that already fused with their dress codes. Eventually other people check it out for malicious traffic etc. and the trust will return (what's impossible under Bill Gates' leadership). Data collection can be useful for recommendations, analytics, some crazy AI stuff and other, but as long as privacy is not followed people are edging on it
I think at this point the only reason we tolerate windows is because of how dependent we are for its program compatibility.
although, more and more programs are starting to support linux systems, and for those that dont, like photoshop, there are FOSS (Free and Open Source Software) alternatives (GIMP for example, for ps)
Yes, that's the only reason I haven't switched. Though I'm more and more tempted to after every dick move they do...
@@TheyCallMeIce yeah in a lot of cases it's actually easier then windows
@C00L3R my mate, linux mint is a fucking dream to use. ain't like OS/2 or Mac who's a bitch to even install LOL
@@sorakafutanari and as someone who values customisability and extensibility, I really like how much power it gives you over your own system. (*cough cough* windows)
this is an older version of windows 11, newer ones have made browser switching much easier but still the fact that it begun like this was still very annoying
yo cute pfp
And plus, even with old W11 versions, Firefox (to my knowledge) still has one-click defaultify.
It is still not "that simple". Microsoft still refuses to switch all file type or address to another browser. For example, when you open a PDF, it still opens in MS Edge.
@@invisyarcticfreak dude that's a furry what the fu- oh ur a furry too with ur pfp
@@crosssans9984 yes
7:08 That's not a leftover of the now-uninstalled Edge Chromium by the way. That's a leftover of Edge UWP. You know, the now fully obsolete, useless, and non-functional version of Edge that predated the switch to Chromium? That thing is still part of Windows 11, albeit in a very crippled, forgotten state, to what should be no one's surprise by now.
You need to edit the AppX repository database with an SQLite editor to unlock the ability to uninstall that one too, and then there's removing the Internet Explorer optional package leftovers using install_wim_tweak. After that, all visible leftovers of Microsoft web browsers are gone for good. It should now follow as common sense that if you were to forget to install, or uninstall any alternative browsers, you'll have no web browsers on your Windows machine, period. As it should be.
Not to mention if you wanna debloat further, it might be helpful to start with a uupdump-built ISO of Windows 11 made on a Linux OS, since that one, conveniently, doesn't support provisioning the default appx packages into the ISO, meaning you start with no UWP apps aside from the truly critical system ones, like the start menu and Configuration apps. Edge UWP is still in that special top-most critical list, so you still have to manually delete it, but it's progress.
@@AyushTH Well, they already hide Edge UWP automatically when Chromium Edge is present, so why not do the same with Edge Chromium when any other browsers are installed?
You know, the same way Windows Defender already disables itself when you have another AV on?
Better yet, have an open WebView provider mechanism like Android that allows you to choose what browser is used when software needs to embed a web renderer inside its UI.
Edge automatically reinstalls itself during Windows and Visual Studio updates, takes over the desktop when a new user first logs on, tries to force users to complete its setup process, then sneakily adds itself to autostart and remains in the background as part of its "Fast Start" feature, even though most people will be using other browsers, and Microsoft intentionally made switching browser associations more cumbersome. And there's probably other sins I haven't used Edge long enough to find out.
It's awfully intrusive, and honestly pretty pathetic at this point. No wonder the thumbnail gave MS Edge a Potentially Unwanted Program malware moniker.
@@3lH4ck3rC0mf0r7 It's Micro$oft, what do you expect? The entire company belongs in either r/crappydesign or r/assholedesign. There is no in-between.
Can confirm. For some godawful reason, UWP Edge still exists ("Microsoft.MicrosoftEdge" is the package name), along with some dev tools package.
@@Silexium We live in the dark timeline where DR-DOS's predecessor, CP / M, was stolen to make MS-DOS, and Digital Research was brought to ruin. Microsoft were never the good guys.
@@Silexium r/a**holedesign (designed bad for profit)
Wait a sec, we were supposed to use the CMD prompt!?
I just went doom style and sent the Microsoft edge files too the trash bin and deleted them
i did that after watching the video lol
😂
Well thats another way
Perhaps because lots of programs rely on edge and its stupid, basically horseshoed in code underlying there.
@@The4thSillie are you an uttp member?...
You could use Winaero Tweaker to basically immobilize Microsoft Edge. I’ve also heard about people renaming theEdge folder so the system doesn’t know where it is.
Firefox can automatically set itself as default on 11 with one click. They reverse engineered the API.
Hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe i have a computer who does that
Windows: _YOU WILL NOT INSTALL ANYTHING ELSE OR USE ANYTHING ELSE. DONT YOU DARE REMOVE EDGE_
macOS: _Here's an easy toggle to select your default browser permanently. If you disable SIP in recovery you can sudo rm -rf Safari if that's what you want_
Linux: _Remove the browser, remove the home directory, hell remove the entire init system and kernel if you want to I ain't stopping ya_
which is why those two OSes are way better than windows any day of the week
reasons why IBM should have stopped Microsoft: episode 1002498
macos the havily raped linux kernel.
Linux is best for this
Heck, most distros have Firefox by default, and that's actually a browser you should use, and you can remove it if you want for some reason
Windows 10 still has the legacy non-Chromium Edge that it will revert to if you remove the Chromium Edge, so you’ll have to delete that too in C:\Program Files\WindowsApps.
I have to admire how MS puts out new versions before the end-of-life tbh, so before then the only benefit is which GUI is preferred.
the Legacy Edge seems to persist up to 20H2 only; in the 21H1 and up its core files have been removed in that location
IDK about 11. But On windows 10 enterprise LTSC edge is still a pain to uninstall but IE is still hiding in there if you want a default browser to just swap to.
@Whatever Happened To Robot Senoj in theory it's possible to install the legacy edge on windows 11 but it's difficult to do
Can legacy Edge be uninstalled by a 3rd part uninstaller?
@@akramabunahla3059 I used IOBit Unlocker. Had to go in and delete the inner files before it let me delete the folder.
4:20 when he has to set up the entries himself, sad music comes
it makes a lot of sense when sad music comes that time
malware analysers and pentesters should unironically start looking into microsoft software
It's not that hard to remove Edge right now. But in the future this is probably going to change as they integrate the browser tightly into the system causing it to lose functionality if uninstalled.
What functionality, automatically opening to bing when you accidentally click a shady link in settings app & showing ads in your start menu?
@@64_Tesseract major ui elements and core components
@@64_Tesseract
Here are all current MSEdge relying components that instantly come into my mind (there are probably more):
- Windows search (using legacy edge)
- Windows Widgets (using chromium edge wv2
- Microsoft Photos editor (using legacy edge)
- Windows emoji picker and clipboard history (using legacy edge)
Actually, probably not. The Edge WebView2 Runtime is a package meant for embedded Edge use, and it does not require the standalone Edge browser to work. I would be very surprised if they use standalone Edge for any integrated features considering they produce a runtime specifically for the application.
Maybe we reached that point:
Don't know if it is normal but Microsoft Edge doesn't show anymore in my PC, neither in the Control panel nor in regedit and there is no folder in ProgramFile86 that is named "Edge" to force uninstall by Cmd. Although Edge pops out constantly and seem to run pretty well. Idk how to remove that shit 😭.
This is just one of the reasons I switched to Linux after more than 10 years of using Windows. The amount of tweaks you have to do to have a usable system is crazy.
Seriously, it's almost like Microsoft WANTS users to stop using it.
If I HAD to use Windows, I would probably switch to Windows 7, because every version released later on only worsens the user experience. More telemetry, more lazy GUI's slapped onto archaic code and more data siphoned from the user.
I understand if people HAVE to use Windows for a certain purpose (the adobe suite for some reason, multiplayer gaming with anti-cheat or work-related programs), and if all someone does is sit in their browser, Windows is perfectly fine for that. But the moment I decide I want my system to work differently (maybe I want custom shortcuts or a different theme or I want to use the command line) I'm almost always met with the need to install some program from a website I've never heard of, or I have to completely corrupt my install to the point that I can't get the newest updates.
Yes, that's something you have to do if you want to theme "your" Windows.
It's sad to see a good operating system turn into a pile of lazy code and ads, and I hope that Microsoft one day makes such a huge mistake that it'll completely ruin the market share, because that's pretty much where they're headed right now with the decisions they're making.
That was my rant, thanks for reading.
even macOS is starting to beat Windows
Exactly, every update is just slapping new graphical upgrades onto base code that hasn’t changed in decades. Not to mention that these “features” often end up breaking/worsening the user’s experience.
@@zellzoii yes and you can control certain system apps after disabling SIP
At least you get to look like you have older systems installed.
As a C# developer, I feel stuck in this situation. I’ve tried out many times Linux in VMs and on spare laptops and it’s amazing how much of a difference it makes, in terms of freedom and user interface, but I can’t leave Windows because of multiple reasons. I’m a C# programmer, but I use older non-cross-platform versions of the language to make most of my projects/mods, so running Linux wouldn’t give me perfect results. I also game a lot, but sadly not all games are available for Linux
Note: for games I know there are compatibility tools and virtual machines, but I’d rather use native ports instead
The most insulting part is sometime after this video was uploaded, some genius at Microsoft decided to break the uninstaller such that neither using the uninstall option you enabled through regedit - nor 'setup.exe --uninstall --force-uninstall --system-level' - would do anything outside of a UAC prompt requesting admin privileges. I have confirmed this with Microsoft Edge version 107.0.1418.35 but if anyone has noticed the same behaviour with versions 104, 105, or 106, then feel free to mention said version of Edge with the same behaviour.
is this a real thing and not some freak incident because of something you broke earlier to uninstall it?
Hi, do you mind making a video to help me out? My pc is bootlooping and I’ve tried all the advanced settings like safe mode and making a new user on command prompt but it does not work.
This is what we in the computing world call "anti-consumer".
3:26 „Let's uninstall Chrome“
Proceeds to install „Chrome“
WAIT MINUTE?
I hate Microsoft for forcing you into their products, if you like it or not. They try so hard to make that you stick to their browser and OS, just because they want to have monopoly over all market shares. I couldn't install or boot into anything besides Windows on used PC I bought for little server project, I had to wipe the NTFS partition from hard drive just to make Linux bootable from USB stick because there was some kind of crap that tried to stop Linux from booting while Windows 10 was present on hard drive (and I tried several distros like Mint, Ubuntu, Debian, Arch). And on top of that they make that SecureBoot requirement for Windows 11 to install and have partnership with Lenovo to ship their laptops with chips that prevent anything besides Windows to be installed on them. I could understand that monopolistic approach in 90s or even mid-to-late 2000s, but now Windows is so dominant on the market that it doesn't need any of that nonsense, it is already in most households all over the world. Just give people some choice Microsoft, at least when they are using your system.
Same thing happens to my laptop, I can't boot from any Linux USB stick (although was able to boot from an MS-DOS one). I wanted to switch to Linux, but deleting the Windows partition is simply not an option right now.
There is nothing in Windows that stops or even would be able to stop Linux from booting from another drive other than Secure Boot, but that's part of your UEFI, not Windows
That PC I bought doesn't have UEFI, it only has American Megatrends BIOS from 2006, SecureBoot was introduced in 2011. There was definitely something on hard drive that prevented Linux from booting.
You may have issues with the "flashy and useful" Fast Boot (or Fast Startup or whatever it's called) option in Windows.
This is just malware level of persistence. Actually, I don't know if even a rootkit could do this.
I like how you can activate windows with two simple commands but you can’t uninstall MS Edge no matter what commands you use or whether you run CMD as admin or not.
Edge is a good browser, but it _is_ pretty much a Chrome reskin. They both use Chromium and have a very similar layout. The thing is, MS tries to force it on us so much it makes you wonder why.
Edit: thanks for new replies but y'all are a year late 🗿
One word: telemetry.
@@JungleLibrary As if Chrome doesn't track you lol
@@dimitar.bogdanov totally agree. Only use open source: firefox comes with some anonymous usage telemetry, but when I turn it off, I know it's off.
@@dimitar.bogdanov but I was answering the question of why they would make it hard to uninstall - they want your data. Your comment is a bit of a non sequiter.
I'm afraid of chrome now
Let me guess, the next time Windows updates, it will see that Edge has been removed and put it back, and make it the default browser, in the name of "integrity of system files".
@@therealzeaxey New features and stability: do I look like a joke to you
@@therealzeaxey how did you have three asterisks in a row without a single bold asterisk
@@therealzeaxey no you don't look like a joke you look like a good os that people can't seem to comprehend your greatness if modified correctly
@@crusadertwo239 if the "new features" and "stability" you are referring to are about the hot messes Microsoft brings to my computer (and a lot of others') then yes, it does look like a joke to me.
@@notthatntg I replied to also ping me.
On Windows 11, Microsoft Edge can't be *completely* removed since it is used to render some parts of the system UI (like the taskbar or start menu)
oh we got a possible security vulnurablity here :)
who fking uses a web browser to render shit
how long till someone makes a debloat program that removes the bad oarts
just replace it with a different shell other than explorer
Windows is very notorius for werd combinations when they just could use seperate oney.
The dumb idea to combine the buggy and heavyly used file explorer and system ui in win 10 causes the ui to get buggy when big file operation are happening, or the explorer decided to crash spontanuiosly or because it didnt like a filename.
It cant be that hard to make a seperate taskbar.exe?? like EVERY single linux DE i know of has a simple process for the taskbar, so the file explorer can lag or crash safely
@@wumwum42 uhh did you know that windows has an option to make processes for the desktop and taskbar and shit separate from the file explorer stuff? not trying to defend windows, just saying how dumb your comment is lmao
This is the best malware removal I've ever seen
It's not even a malware, it's a chromium browser like Chrome
@@massblabla Nah, it's a malware dude /s
@@massblabla 🤓
Its the biggest malware that comes with windows
@@massblabla windows itself is malware
All you have to do is go to "file location" and then permentally delete it from there.. Great vids though! keep up the good work!
In the wise words of Bringus Studios : "Microsoft Edge is litteraly Malware"
Ah yes, Microsoft and their amazing advertising strategies. I guess they'll never change. They never cared about their customers, they only care about the money, and that's what makes Windows so bad.
What do you mean... Their customers is companies that buy their ads, Windows users now is just goods for M$ to sell data...
Well, sadly that's how companies work, all companies must have profit, or at least have enough money to keep itself alive
just use linux, its better
Also Minecraft. They added a new damn chat report system
@@AroPix yep, slap Ubuntu onto something and you're set with free upgrades to the next thing.
It's so annoying Microsoft does EVERYTHING to make Edge the browser of your system. It has set back to Edge as default so many times in the past. It even reinstalled it after system upgrades for me, when I used different methods to uninstall it since Windows 10 (even the "first" Edge version). Changing others to default was made extremely difficult and annoying for a reason by MS... I hate that so much!
I don’t mind, cuz i think edge is 10 times better than chrome, but i can see how it can be annoying
3:32
"Well, i give up. Let's just uninstall Chrome."
*Proceeds to install Chrome*
he meant "Let's just install Chrome."
@@Gaminguide1000 r/ihavereddit
Uninstalled so hard it came back with a vengeance lol
@@deadair32101 lol
@@deadair32101lol
I once just made a policy in a corporate antivirus that I managed that blocked Edge from loading. I didn't want to uninstall it, as there is the occasional, rare use-case of it, and I know how hard it is to reinstall if you ever change your mind, but I had far too many tickets of users using it, thinking it was IE (which was required for certain applications), and everyone was supposed to use IE or Chrome, as these were the only two browsers we supported and/or they were supposed to use.
My support tickets for users accidentally using the wrong browser dropped like a stone after the change.
6:30 was the uninstall using Uninstall Tool necessary? or did you cut away on purpose to show the cmd command?
Well I'm not in favour of any company forcing you time to time to use their product. But it's not just MS that does this. Even Google too makes it nearly impossible to uninstall Chrome in Android, just it's not that annoying like in Edge's case and you can easily set the default browser to other. But Chrome is still there in your storage.
man FUCK google. Android is filled with bloatware and stupid "features" nowadays, and the cherry on top is all the spying to (with barely any consent, of course) sell that sweet, sweet user data. i'd rather use my fucking flip phone at this point tbh
You can't uninstall system apps because the system partition in Android is immutable. It's not like Google chose not to allow uninstalling it, it's just not possible.
The problem is, you can't even disable Edge on Windows. Android always respects your default browser settings.
@@DanielClear2 Oh I see, didn't knew that. Thanks.
I've got nearly no info on the inner workings of Android but I still think Google doesn't even try to make it uninstallable. I mean, it does profit them, as Android is free so they can only earn from their services which you get with Android.
@@DeathMonarch2005 to be fair, most consumer phones only have 1 browser pre-installed which would be chrome
@@user-dofjlkfxv4 Not true. Every OEM manufacturer also installs their own browser alongside Chrome in most devices I've seen in my country, be it Xiaomi, Samsung, BBK group companies or some other company, except Apple as they have Safari.
And about commands, you probably need a PC to do what should've been possible to do with just a click or two.
The Mozilla team reverse engineered how the default apps system works. In Firefox, one click to set as default works for like a year now.
Firefox has terrible user interface
@@FsKir no
@@singleflake2 yes. I used Firefox for 2 years but in update no. Like 90.0.0 they updated ui and it was so terrible. I installed chrome
@@FsKir i wasn't even talking about how it looks, i said that it has a one click apply feature. also, i like the interface much more than chrome. use what you want bro
@@singleflake2 Microsoft broke me and now I use edge
'Hello everyone. Today I was randomly installing Windows 11 on a virtual machine...'
Epic Enderman moment
the program enderman used was Uninstall Tool, by CrystalIdea
btw :)
As tiny11 user I've never installed Edge to begin with. But I don't know how to get rid of occasional MS Teams popups
5:59 You should disable the option "Use hardware acceleration when available" in the Edge to solve the problem that words cannot be seen clearly in the white window.
you should NOT disable hardware acceleration
Q: What is Microsoft Edge for?
A: To download Chrome.
Q: And what is Chrome for?
A: To look for "How to remove Microsoft Edge"
They are both the same thing. So you use a Chromium based that come with your OS to download another Chromium based browser and then look up how to remove the chromium based browser that is part of your OS?
Although I use Firefox myself, I don't get the point of using Chrome over Edge.
@@featherinescat I used Edge on my Windows device
@@HuntingKingYT And you used it to download another browser which functions the same?
Q: What is Microsoft Edge for?
A: To download Firefox.
Q: And what is firefox for?
A: To look for "Linux mint install"
@@featherinescat firefox was too slow for it (like 50 on speedometer)
The integration was so bad in the IE4 / Win98 era that I stayed on Win95 / NT4 longer than most people just to avoid having it on my system. IERadicator / LitePC / 98lite could remove it from 98 and some other OSes, but there were bugs in doing so, and just sticking with 95 / NT4 was way cleaner.
until when you stuck with 95/NT4?
but actually Win95’s OSR2.5 and WinNT4’s SP3 were the first attempts for IE4 integration, and that attempt gave too much of impact. For example if you have a small business and you want to install Office 97 on workstations, be careful with installation because later version of Office 97 Small Business might had installed IE4 on pre-OSR2 PCs and pre-SP2 workstations.
@@A_G_w_R Win95 and NT4 served me well as my primary OSes (in addition to Linux) until 2006. I still use them (and even prior OSes) on some older PCs.
@@NetzDotCom Win95C (OSR 2.5) installed IE3 initially, but when it gets to the phase to install IE4, just reboot to bypass. :-) As for NT4, it was also easy to just keep IE2 without updating key dlls even with Office 97. It may have had something to do with never installing Outlook or other components that I never use.
@@DavidWonn the hell did i expect you to use them until around 2005?Damn close tho
If you want to try another method, go to ‘Windows (C:)’, ‘Program Files (x86)’ and find the folder called ‘Microsoft’. Delete everything in it (you'll find all the MS Edge stuff in there) and then delete the folder itself. Empty your recycle bin and restart your computer. This method has kept my PC free of Edge for seven months now (as of end of July 2023) and the PC still works perfectly. Before this, Edge would reinstall itself every few days and I could only get rid of it temporarily with the "IObit Uninstaller" free software. I'm a retired plumber, not a PC expert, but I hope this helps you.
Or make Microsoft folder read only
I Just deroot the damn thing, I opened file explorer and went to System files and erased it, never came back after a system update
there's nothing like the good old Firefox!
Okay, that is some BS right here. I get that Edge is a better browser now, but why force people to use it to a point that it’s really difficult to get rid of for any normal end user?
they are totally doing that so their competitors won't scrape your browser data to sell it to advertising and other companies (and scrape it themselves to sell it)
This is why it’s best to just not use candy crush os in the beginning. Just use Linux, fedora or Ubuntu if you don’t feel like tinkering.
candy crush os sounds like a real thing now lol
@@monnamonsta when you ship your OS with Candy Crush ads in the Start Menu
you need to tinker with every linux distro though
@@kellymountain ive found both fedora and ubuntu require pretty much no customization. ive actually run nearly stock fedora for months with no issues, and i would feel the same with ubuntu
If everything I love could run on Ubuntu then I would quit Windows forever without a doubt.
So what happened with the edge WebView2 runtime? Is it still works? Cause some program I've installed depends on it
huh. i didn't know the setup actually *had* the ability to uninstall, and that it was simply blocked. i thought to remove it you would need to manually delete it, clean the registry, and hope that there aren't any related files buried in the deapths of the os that can cause problems.
i'm gonna start using this command pretty much every time i install an os from now on
Sad to see that Microsoft's been doing this since the 1990s.
It makes sense tho
It really doesn't, I dont care what they think I should be using to do what, if I want to hose my box by uninstalling a semi-critical part of the OS, I'm going to whether you want me to or not, standing in the way just makes the user have another reason to dislike you
Can't wait for the lawsuits to come back! Good ol' microsoft!
@@deadair32101 i think I should say it differently
It still makes sense for it to be so hard to uninstall and i think the average user would be more mad about it being uninstallable
but trying to make people to get people to use something they dont want to use even after they said no multiple times is a shitty move
i thought it started in 2012
I did it too, but I used another method. This method is so much easier, thank you! :)
Btw I hate their punishment to use their browser, because most people don’t know how to uninstall it. You helped them the rightway
Enderman: How difficult is it to uninstall Microsoft Edge?
Also Enderman: *deletes MSEdge with 4-6 steps*
Starting with MS Edge 105, it is no longer possible to uninstall it :/ Typing the command in cmd.exe does nothing, and changing the registry value does allow you to click on uninstall, but nothing happens afterwards. The only way to remove MS Edge now is to reinstall Windows, disconnect from the Internet and remove Edge before it automatically downloads v105 :D
honestly, Edge is a good browser i dont understand why people would swap it out for Chrome, plus every browser is practically the same, why do you need to change it?
it makes sense to have a browser as a system app, imagine if a novice user accidently uninstalled edge before having another browser installed, or if their other browser unexpectedly stopped working?
in before someone says some kind of extremely obscure way to look up stuff without a browser that nobody even knows exists
indeed. thats why i keep edge.
just move a browser install file from another computer to your main. you can even use your smartphone!
@@brunocamposquenaoeoyoutuber Even Android is A-OK with you uninstalling Chrome and Android System Webview, leaving you with no usable browser.
Granted, the OS only lets you do it with a developer tool intended for testing, but still. And it doesn't have to be a total uninstall. Android allows users to disable noncritical system apps (among them Chrome and Android System WebView) and reenable them from the Settings app at any time. Microsoft could do the same, marking Edge as an optional feature users could delete and redownload from the Apps and Features configuration applet the way they can do with stuff like WordPad and .NET Framework 3.5. You can even uninstall Windows Media Player and Notepad that way, and there's even Windows editions without Windows Media Foundation. You could argue these are as much core Windows components as IE and Edge are, if not even more so.
You won't be stuck without a means to get browsers since you'll still have the Store and Winget by default.
when you forget that you don’t have another browser yet and you uninstall microsoft edge
At that point you need to grab an installer from an external storage device.
winget
@@Pancake-k1cLOL
Oh and it reinstalls during updates and turns on run in the background on its own. And has random tasks always running in task manager even if you don't allow it to run in the background or start-up with the pc. This makes me consider Linux even more. But I kinda like being able to do things on my pc lol
I do everything on Linux
If you want to play games on Linux that don't have a native port, Steam uses Proton to make it run on Linux
it works quite well
@@bottinator22 Oh, I didn't know steam had that. And for other apps I guess I could just use a virtual machine or random side loaded windows install
@@jsnotlout3312 Or you could use Linux alternatives
@@jsnotlout3312 Actually, for other non steam apps you can use an app called Wine
@@jsnotlout3312 Linux user here. I was on a constant switching for many years, from W to ubuntu, from ubunto to new W, from that to Kali, and so forth. Rn, im on Kali with hyprland. Gotta say, performance, resource managment, space, coding, browsing, security and anonimity, gaming, everything works flawleslly and thousand times better than what you could ever achieve on W with days and weeks of tinkering. HOWEVER, if you are really not that tech savyy or comfortable on spending some time installing, tinkering, researching and making everything to optimize it, Linux (any distro) is a huge pain is the ass. Its not so friendly for newbies. Dont get me wrong, it MIGHT seem complex at first glance, but its actually all pretty intuitive and easy, just, not easy enough for people that dont have a relatively good knowledge of computers.
Thank you for this useful tutorial! I subscribe because I expect more good tutorials like this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I Uninstalled edge by going to Localdisk/Program Files (x86)/Microsoft/EVERYTHING IN THAT FOLDER.
If it shows you an error about "cant continue because file is open in another program", open task manager, and close all the edge tasks, and then press "try again". now empty your recycling bin, and BOOM! edge is removed.
As a reminder Windows is pentimenti over pentimenti, so there's no way this can get better without outright redoing the NT kernel itself.
Edge isn't a big problem compared to how the whole thing needs to pull a Longhorn to get itself together.
For a reminder, the uploader did show what's supposed to be a "consistent" Win11, but......uh, Enderman you sure that is real and good enough? No pentimenti? Stable? No Edge?
i don't usually defend microsoft, but i will just this once.
i recently accidentally set waterfox as my default browser on windows 10, and had to go through and set pdf -> sumatra, svg -> inkscape, html -> sublime, http -> firefox, etc. etc.
it was very annoying, and i would have really liked my default browser settings not to influence pdf's, svg's, etc.
how is that defending microsoft
@@parknich081 somewhat defending their otherwise stupid decision to not allow browsers to set themselves as default, instead forcing users to do it manually
i realise that is not why they made that decision, but it isn't the worst one they've made in my opinion
Just tick the "don't remind me again" button in Firefox when it asks. You are perfectly capable of manually going and enabling the https and http defaults for Firefox yourself, the browser won't complain.
This point seems kinda redundant for a step a user takes once per installation 🤔.
On Linux, upon instalation of my OS (Manjaro), it literally asks me what browser I want to install and default to. Why can't Microsoft do the same?
I've always thought why you cant uninstall Edge, its because if theres no browser, you cant access the internet (at least that mutch)
well yeah, the only good feature of Edge is that it allows you to install other browsers, but I wouldn't be surprised if Microsoft blocked the websites of other browsers in the future
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan they would never do that
They would get sued almost immediately, there is a limit to how much companies and people will deal with before it just becomes malicious
you can install browsers from your command line, atleast in an OS like linux, but Microsoft doesnt like you do that because then they won't have an excuse
@@Mate_Antal_Zoltan U can just install a browser using PowerShell or ChrisTitus's tool
I found it rather easy, go to where edge is installed and delete all the files
what happens if you just try to delete is from file explorer?
he's never gonna try that
edge after uninstalling him:
I'm not even angry
I'm being so sincere right now
Even though you broke my heart
And killed me
i think the real reason why its so hard to get rid of edge is because thats the only browser you get when you install windows. without it, you cant install another browser. lol
Simple , just stick to Windows 10 for now , and remove all the bloatware from the operating system with revo uninstaller or similar app. It even uninstalls the haunted microsoft edge.
I miss Covid time Enderman, man you're such a legend 🔥
Worst part of this is that after an update Edge will install itself automatically into your pc if you get rid of it. Or even if you simply remove the shortcut from your desktop, it'll just pop up some time later.
use windows superlight
Let's try to use "windows admin center" app! It's able to remove UWP apps which can't be removed from settings app. It's official MS tool for managing Windows remotely. Maybe it can remove Edge too.
Respectfully disagree. My opinion is that it is reskinned chromium with way too many useless features and addons, popups, and predatory practices.
@@tildejustin no its not reskinned chrome.
@@tildejustin just because its based off chromium doesnt mean its just reskinned chrome. people actually tested which is better ms edge or chrome and it turns out edge was better
@winux If you like sending data to both Google and Microsoft, it could. But since I prefer Privacy over Performance I will pick Firefox. And also because I don't want big corporations to control the Web too.
@winux I didn't say Edge is UWP. Read carefully.
"winget uninstall Microsoft.Edge" ( with WinGet ) or "setup.exe -uninstall -system-level -verbose-logging -force-uninstall" ( CMD in Edge installation folder ) should do the trick I think.
winget for the win I guess.
But how about "MICROSOFT-EDGE", "MICROSOFT-EDGE-HOLOGRAPHIC" and other proprietary nonsense which isn't reassignable and can be opened only in edge? even if it isn't present on the system?
How come, it is reassignable. You can use EdgeDeflector or any software emulating redirects from that protocol to your browser.
@@Endermanch isn’t it Microsoft ““backported”” (but actually closed a hole in Windows 10/11 that EdgeDeflector would work on PCs with KB5007262 system “update”)?
I tried to install it on Windows 11 PC (it was installed in spring 2022) and unfortunately, EdgeDeflector won’t work anymore (after it was installed, edge immediately started up and opened his homepage).
@@Endermanch It isn't as of now, I can only select edge in app choosing dialogue
@@Endermanch btw can you change the search bar to open in other browser
god level:
>boot to linux
>open terminal
>sudo find / -name "*edge*" -exec rm -rf {} +
>reboot to windows
Hey enderman i am resetting my computer because i couldnt get 30 Gigabytes off Driver C
how do i make it stop shouldnt everything should delete why it adds a 30 gigabytes out of nowhere (i have 119 gigabytes of C storage and 1 terabyte in D)
POV: Coding this instead of coding a browser which is good
I once removed Edge from Windows 10 on my main computer by right-clicking the shortcut -> open file location and just deleting every file
But it came back after like 5 days :(
That's Microsoft. Just debloated my install and the other bloatware comes
I found edge to be easy enough to remove (as a power user or better), but its annoying that windows update reinstalls this malware once in awhile. Also the annoying process to set the default browser was Microsoft's doing, they broke the function used to set the defaults automatically.
4 years ago I thought I deleted edge but to this day I’m still finding files for edge on my computer
3:50 Removing the ability for random programs to set themselves as the default web browser was good imo. Just make it a simple dropdown of "default web browser".
While I agree that there shouldn't be an API to set a browser default, I refuse to think that microsoft does have the option the way they have it for security purposes (and not just malicious compliance for anti-competetive guidelines)
if you really were an inquisitive noob at least try removing the folder for edge
Windows won't let you without changing a bunch of permissions
@@deadair32101 yea I took that route before I switched to penguin.
I don't think this is a fair point to make since Edge is just built on top of the same UI as Google Chrome. Meanwhile, Apple does a lot to make sure only Apple approved apps run on iPhone, which hurts end users. And, also, to be fair, Microsoft still allows for the installation of Firefox and Opera from the Microsoft Store, meaning if Google wanted to go that route of distributing Chrome through the Microsoft Store, they can do that and set app defaults for Chrome.
Chrome used to be in the Microsoft Store but Microsoft has deleted it because it didin't meet the requirements for a web browser in the Microsoft Store
@@devara_maI don't think it ever was. Back in Windows 8, Chrome was available in both Metro and Desktop flavors.
Why does everyone hate Edge so much? It’s honestly not even bad. The context menus looks way better than any other browser (transparency effects) and it’s the only browser where you can enable Mica on Windows 11, so it matches all the other built in apps. Also, it has the best implementation of vertical tabs
Yeah you have a good point. Sometimes someone has a specific needs (ex. low ram browser or maximum privacy). Otherwise why would you keep a browser that you never used for months.
If someone (Microsoft) is literally forcing me to use something, it's enough reason TO NOT use it even if it has features different browsers don't have.
wtf is an "mica"
Plus it runs on Chromium now, so it’s essentially just chrome to an average user, what’s the fuss 🙄🙄
@@a.nice_guy Mica is Aero but ugly. Way more ugly than whatever Windows 8 had instead of Aero.
EDIT: My statement is incorrect, see edit of a reply below.
They have since patched out ALL methods of uninstalling it, on both Windows 11 and Windows 10, short of deleting ALL edge-related registry keys and deleting ALL edge files and shortcuts manually.
The uninstaller now will either do nothing or, if you use the command line, open edge.
i feel like we all only use windows because everyone uses windows which is also why many programs are built to run on windows and not other operating systems
3:30 blud leaked his IP fr
??? where
Kids like you really don't know what an IP is. That's a version of Edge... 😂😂
Yeah, this is super malicious and anti competition, i hope microsoft gets destroyed by a second anti trust
remember when microsoft got hit by a lawsuit for making IE integral part of windows?
we should do it again
@@RealDreadmania well are you the federal government?
@@massblabla wait for the EU.
at one point they pushed out a windows 10 update that forced you to have a microsoft edge shortcut on your desktop on launch no matter how many times you deleted it. disabling this was the first time i discovered the registry
i just deleted it by simply pressing on open file location on it and pressing delete and now when i search it in the start menu it says i can install it
To uninstall Microsoft Edge you need to open Powershell as Admin and put this command
Get-AppxPackage **MicrosoftEdge** | Remove-AppxPackage
0:44 is pov: average ncs song
I actually still don’t get why everyone hates Edge. It’s a solid browser.
i agree but microsoft shoves it down your throat which ruins the browser
nah
Tracking. that's literally it.
With the newest edge model, we are proud to annount that you will be able to dawnload chrome even faster!!!
so they reinstall edge every few updates... they engraved that thing into the kernel.