It’s not that we don’t empathize with suffering…it’s that we know the hope, the comfort, the strength we all need and it’s certainly not the stank hole of “rapture watching”.
@ 7:43 It’s not rapture watching. It’s tribulation watching. 🎯 Spot on! Reminds me of folks fixated on who the Antichrist may be instead of focusing on who Christ is.
Most of them still see themselves living the Christian Life apart from Christ in their flesh with the help of the Holy Spirit, they are carnal Christians or non-believers. Waiting for Christ to appear and not living in Christ. For it is the one that lacks faith that must try to figure out what God is going to do next in the world. All we need to do is rest and trust Him in faith. I really liked the private message, it was an exhortation for the body of Christ.
I can’t tell you enough how much your videos have blessed me. It literally feels like I’m listening to my brother talk logical sense into my spirit rather than being condemned by a yelling or pouting “pastor” Just so genuinely truthful and simple, as it should be. Makes me think it’s exactly how our big brother Jesus would address questions in truth and love. I don’t doubt for a second that you have plenty of empathy and compassion. Thank you for feeding us sheep! May our Heavenly Father continue to bless and strengthen you and your family with His LOVE, JOY and PERFECT PEACE🙌❣️🕊️🛡️🩸
It’s really weird to think hoping to get out of here is a comfort. Whenever I get that way…like whining about wanting to escape my issues…I don’t feel comforted. My comfort is on Christ now not in thinking some day I just won’t have to hear about all the horrible sinners out there getting by with flint their sinning things. You’re absolutely right that the rapture idolatry channels are looking at the world and hoping for tribulation to come. Weird. But I used to be weird like that so I get it. When I began to actually set my mind on things above and got those channels and the news out of my head, my mental health got much better. Turns out, I’m not miserable because people out there have different politics or philosophy than me. I am actually ok with people thinking differently thoughts than me and it isn’t ruining my life. Turns out, focusing on Jesus and my family and doing work I love has been joy filled. Turns out the hard things I still suffer…continue to wax and wan as they before when I was a rapture idolator. My suffering hasn’t gotten better but not complaining about it. But complaining about it and thinking this is the month…hasn’t helped either.
16:57 I wish I could explain to you how much I totally understand this. For my whole life up until four years ago, I was so confident in my salvation but there was works involved. I was the encourager. I would let everybody know that they could have what I had to if they just wanted to "surrender" to Jesus. The greatest things have happened to me in the past 4 years and the worst things have happened to me in the past four years. It's like I've been stripped down and need to start over again from scratch and all I get is grace. That was your whole point. The only thing you have to offer somebody is Christ. Grace has a name. His name is Jesus. The sooner you realize this, the faster you enter rest and the more peace you will have in your inner man.
Well brother, when I heard you reply, when people were asking you for personal help, and you basically said, I have no advice to give, you have to go to Jesus'. That's when I smiled. You always give truth. Thank you💞
David what a wonderful message that I wish more would hear and understand that getting away from the rapture channels and all of the hype and edge of the seat deluge of sensationalism....We keep our eyes on Jesus and Him alone and what He accomplished for us. We rest in His peace today and everyday and not the world and all of it's troubles.
Yeah I can understand from a point the rapture watchers they long for Christ to come to take them Home, but they make themselves bitter trying to predict dates and trying to know exactly, but that just causes misery, I'm learning patience with my own struggles because I struggle with clinical depression and ptsd, so sometimes it can totally feel like I'm just surviving, but thank the Lord Christ for bearing with my infirmities and sorrows, everyone carries their own burdens but learning to focus on Christ in the midst of that is a real blessing, take heart brothers and sisters He will not leave you nor forsake you ❤❤❤
Amen brother. I didn't really have a (good) concept of resting in Christ and who/what we are in Christ before being led to your videos/channel. For me learning (still learning...) to rest in Christ has really helped me deal with rapture watching issues (and most other issues) and the various sensationalistic channels. For me something had to replace all that false "seeking" and that is Christ! I have more peace and rest now then I have ever had!
The videos on Galatians are amazingly correct 💯 😊 keep em watching over & over I can guarantee if anyone would listen to those teachings they could be loosed from alot of bondage for sure from all the Lord shipping pastors😊
@@dawncarrasco8274 Remember we're christians by what we Believe not by what we Do, 🙏 ya know Mary's head & ❤️ heart were more precious to Christ, than Martha's hands & feet 😊
Thanks for this video brother. Hope and prayers your wife is in much comfort and recovered from everything she endured this year, thank you God and Savior Jesus Christ for this beautiful family 🥹 🙏
This was soooooo good. I have been one of those who has watched rapture teachers for the sake of their bible prophecy teachings, not really worrying about any bad teachings on justification. You know, the whole spit-out-the-bones thing. As you said, I am addicted to bible prophecy!These last three days I came down with the flu and didn’t do much but rest and lay around and there is something soothing about your cadence , it doesn’t agitate me like some of my online daily line up pastors. It’s a background voice that works well when you feeling under the weather. I decided to listen to your channel back to back throughout each day, even at night when i would try to sleep. The multiple video playlist containing Law Vs. Grace, freedom from legalism has been transformative. And you are right, keeping the other “voices” muted has really helped. I must admit your James playlist , had become a bridge too far in the past, but I decided to take the plunge today quickly realizing God didn’t strike me dead for doing so. perhaps David had something here because for years snd years and years not only could I not reconcile James with anything Pauline, none of the red letter portions of the 4 gospels could i marry to Paul as well. I’d question my salvation all the time, thinking Jesus was mad at me. His own words seemed to beat me up continually but now I feel a lightness like a huge weight has been lifted that like Peter, Jesus might even like me. Thank you! This has been incredible! I do believe God has called you to get through to knuckleheads like me! Thank you!!!!
Yes Yes and AMEN, I HEAR , not just about the knowing, but having the reality of who we r in CHRIST 2day, HE is our ultimate refuge, being renewed knowing that we r loved and accepted keeps us , having PEACE and JOY while in the midst of our trials, and not even letting the toughest situations Rob our JOY. WE R SAVED BY GRACE AND KEPT BY GRACE. JESUS WILL COME AT HIS PERFECT TIME. BLESSINGS GRACE PEACE AND JOY 2U bro David and ur family ❤
I decided to stop rapture watching. I’m tired of getting disappointed and I would rather just focus on eternal life, what I have now with Jesus. No works required. And I decided to be thankful for what I have right now.
4:19 first of many. I'm going to maintain holy composure over these comments that come at you. Your life has been completely upended in the past 18 months since I discovered your channel with challenges that would make the average guy go on a bender. You have been honest, not only in your witness but in sharing even a modicum of personal information relating to your struggles. I've seen/heard your testimony and your early years, and if anyone has understood checkmate better than you, I'd like to meet them. The first 6 months I started to listen to you I thought maybe some of the same things. God convicted me every time I'd type the same damn question to you. That question continues to remain unanswered in the best possible way- God answered me. It is too hard to explain what that q was, but I'll tell you that you did a teaching in which the first minute, you were "complaining" about your situation and you cut yourself off, laughing and said,"No one cares."😅😅 Little did you know, you answered that question. You see folks, it doesn't matter one whit what your situation is - the answer is Christ. Seriously. There is no other answer to any dilemma that you face. The sooner you can grasp this, the sooner you can rest. Ask David- I was a basket case with salvation questions when I first came on here. For me to understand this now and share with others is truly and only God. I have come SO far in the past 18 months and I guarantee it is from the riches of salvation through Christ alone via your teachings. God bless you. I pray for strength daily for you, and daily protection.
She obviously has never heard any of your teachings before,because that's why I listen, your always defending the weak that live by faith opposed to the zeal that's in the flesh of the law-men ie, wolf's but thank you dave😊
u know i had such big fatih and it keept getting weaker nothing bad in my life happend , it just kept getting weaker and doesnt matter how many times i cry out to God he gives me the cold sholder and doesnt give me my original level of fatih im tired .
What do you mean? You had such big faith. I think the reason you're feeling so bad is because you think you're thinking of believing as some kind of work you do or some quality in you. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word. But what are you believing? Faith in what? Fate has an object and it's entirely focused on Christ himself. Not on something god's going to do for you. That's a disillusioning path. What we learn is what god's done for us in Christ. That is the subject and object of faith. To believe is to acknowledge what he's done. But what you're saying is I had this thing faith I don't have it anymore because God won't do XYZ. You're disappointed and disillusioned because the object of your believing is wrong and your definition of faith is wrong. That's okay. I've been there. It's miserable. But it's normal . Around. There's a lot of people who are getting set free
Sorry, David. I didn't mean to imply that you haven't suffered greatly, or don't understand suffering. Only that it "seems" that you don't understand "severe" physical suffering, such as cannot be avoided or treated with a doctrinal or attitude change... or even medication. I'm talking about physical pain that cannot be escaped or treated away. No matter how solid the understanding of justification is, life is going to be bad, from physical pain alone. Justification, the spirit of son-ship, inheritance, fellowship, etc. Once enough physical pain is involved, it no longer matters. Rapture or death becomes all that is longed for. That's what I meant. I have intimate knowledge of numerous believers often suffering in that condition.
Well actually I do have acquaintance with that in people around me there's a reason that half the people who listen to me are bedridden. But Christ is still the only remedy. And believe it or not I'm not even against assisted suicide. And I don't mean that as a matter of policy or that I never advise it or anything like that. What I mean is that I'm sympathetic for those who end up going that route because of severe pain. And I don't judge them for it. I'm appending this answer to make sure that's clear before anybody weaponizes this and runs off with it So I'm not saying pick yourself up by the bootstraps. But the people I'm responding to that's not their position. They are miserable, not because of those things but because of what they consume. They have a spiritual diet that consists of garbage
@@davidbenjamininchrist Thank you for that clarification. I do understand you were addressing a different crowd, and I agree with you. I too am not against suicide, although I hope for a better answer for anyone suffering that much. I'm glad you have that perspective. Thank you for all your hard work and ministry. I truly have been blessed by your channel. And I'm well aware that deep, severe suffering has been a significant factor in how the Lord has imparted to you the wisdom to rightly minister to those of us who have been abused and deeply discouraged by the institutional church. Thanks to you, a rare few others, and what the Lord has done in me through my suffering, I have been able to minister to others who have also been trodden under by the man centered, institutional church system.
It’s not that we don’t empathize with suffering…it’s that we know the hope, the comfort, the strength we all need and it’s certainly not the stank hole of “rapture watching”.
Post it!
@ 7:43 It’s not rapture watching. It’s tribulation watching.
🎯 Spot on!
Reminds me of folks fixated on who the Antichrist may be instead of focusing on who Christ is.
💯
Most of them still see themselves living the Christian Life apart from Christ in their flesh with the help of the Holy Spirit, they are carnal Christians or non-believers. Waiting for Christ to appear and not living in Christ. For it is the one that lacks faith that must try to figure out what God is going to do next in the world. All we need to do is rest and trust Him in faith. I really liked the private message, it was an exhortation for the body of Christ.
I can’t tell you enough how much your videos have blessed me. It literally feels like I’m listening to my brother talk logical sense into my spirit rather than being condemned by a yelling or pouting “pastor”
Just so genuinely truthful and simple, as it should be. Makes me think it’s exactly how our big brother Jesus would address questions in truth and love. I don’t doubt for a second that you have plenty of empathy and compassion. Thank you for feeding us sheep! May our Heavenly Father continue to bless and strengthen you and your family with His LOVE, JOY and PERFECT PEACE🙌❣️🕊️🛡️🩸
The rapture watching channels sound a lot like Martha obsessing over details and scolding Mary, while Mary's sitting at the feet of Christ.
It’s really weird to think hoping to get out of here is a comfort. Whenever I get that way…like whining about wanting to escape my issues…I don’t feel comforted. My comfort is on Christ now not in thinking some day I just won’t have to hear about all the horrible sinners out there getting by with flint their sinning things. You’re absolutely right that the rapture idolatry channels are looking at the world and hoping for tribulation to come. Weird. But I used to be weird like that so I get it. When I began to actually set my mind on things above and got those channels and the news out of my head, my mental health got much better. Turns out, I’m not miserable because people out there have different politics or philosophy than me. I am actually ok with people thinking differently thoughts than me and it isn’t ruining my life. Turns out, focusing on Jesus and my family and doing work I love has been joy filled. Turns out the hard things I still suffer…continue to wax and wan as they before when I was a rapture idolator. My suffering hasn’t gotten better but not complaining about it. But complaining about it and thinking this is the month…hasn’t helped either.
16:57 I wish I could explain to you how much I totally understand this. For my whole life up until four years ago, I was so confident in my salvation but there was works involved. I was the encourager. I would let everybody know that they could have what I had to if they just wanted to "surrender" to Jesus. The greatest things have happened to me in the past 4 years and the worst things have happened to me in the past four years. It's like I've been stripped down and need to start over again from scratch and all I get is grace. That was your whole point. The only thing you have to offer somebody is Christ. Grace has a name. His name is Jesus. The sooner you realize this, the faster you enter rest and the more peace you will have in your inner man.
Well brother, when I heard you reply, when people were asking you for personal help, and you basically said, I have no advice to give, you have to go to Jesus'. That's when I smiled. You always give truth. Thank you💞
Amen
Exactly!
Amen
See my comment. Christ is life.
So much wisdom here, thank you brother 🙏🏼 grace of God daily, can’t live without it.
I didn’t find your message yesterday to be insulting in the lest. You have a sense of humour. 🤷🏽♀️ we need to laugh a little sometimes.
David what a wonderful message that I wish more would hear and understand that getting away from the rapture channels and all of the hype and edge of the seat deluge of sensationalism....We keep our eyes on Jesus and Him alone and what He accomplished for us. We rest in His peace today and everyday and not the world and all of it's troubles.
Yeah I can understand from a point the rapture watchers they long for Christ to come to take them Home, but they make themselves bitter trying to predict dates and trying to know exactly, but that just causes misery, I'm learning patience with my own struggles because I struggle with clinical depression and ptsd, so sometimes it can totally feel like I'm just surviving, but thank the Lord Christ for bearing with my infirmities and sorrows, everyone carries their own burdens but learning to focus on Christ in the midst of that is a real blessing, take heart brothers and sisters He will not leave you nor forsake you ❤❤❤
Amen brother. I didn't really have a (good) concept of resting in Christ and who/what we are in Christ before being led to your videos/channel. For me learning (still learning...) to rest in Christ has really helped me deal with rapture watching issues (and most other issues) and the various sensationalistic channels. For me something had to replace all that false "seeking" and that is Christ! I have more peace and rest now then I have ever had!
Amen!
Praise the Lord. Resting in Christ = a settled conscience.
The videos on Galatians are amazingly correct 💯 😊 keep em watching over & over I can guarantee if anyone would listen to those teachings they could be loosed from alot of bondage for sure from all the Lord shipping pastors😊
☝️
@@dawncarrasco8274 Remember we're christians by what we Believe not by what we Do, 🙏 ya know Mary's head & ❤️ heart were more precious to Christ, than Martha's hands & feet 😊
@@randypierson6358 yes 🙌🏻
I love that!!
@@dawncarrasco8274Amen sis 🙌
Thanks for this video brother. Hope and prayers your wife is in much comfort and recovered from everything she endured this year, thank you God and Savior Jesus Christ for this beautiful family 🥹 🙏
This was soooooo good. I have been one of those who has watched rapture teachers for the sake of their bible prophecy teachings, not really worrying about any bad teachings on justification. You know, the whole spit-out-the-bones thing. As you said, I am addicted to bible prophecy!These last three days I came down with the flu and didn’t do much but rest and lay around and there is something soothing about your cadence , it doesn’t agitate me like some of my online daily line up pastors. It’s a background voice that works well when you feeling under the weather. I decided to listen to your channel back to back throughout each day, even at night when i would try to sleep. The multiple video playlist containing Law Vs. Grace, freedom from legalism has been transformative. And you are right, keeping the other “voices” muted has really helped. I must admit your James playlist , had become a bridge too far in the past, but I decided to take the plunge today quickly realizing God didn’t strike me dead for doing so. perhaps David had something here because for years snd years and years not only could I not reconcile James with anything Pauline, none of the red letter portions of the 4 gospels could i marry to Paul as well. I’d question my salvation all the time, thinking Jesus was mad at me. His own words seemed to beat me up continually but now I feel a lightness like a huge weight has been lifted that like Peter, Jesus might even like me. Thank you! This has been incredible! I do believe God has called you to get through to knuckleheads like me! Thank you!!!!
Yes Yes and AMEN, I HEAR , not just about the knowing, but having the reality of who we r in CHRIST 2day, HE is our ultimate refuge, being renewed knowing that we r loved and accepted keeps us , having PEACE and JOY while in the midst of our trials, and not even letting the toughest situations Rob our JOY. WE R SAVED BY GRACE AND KEPT BY GRACE. JESUS WILL COME AT HIS PERFECT TIME. BLESSINGS GRACE PEACE AND JOY 2U bro David and ur family ❤
Amen! Thank you for your edifying words of encouragement and wisdom.
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I saw those comments, I think they may have missed the point of what you were saying entirely.
I decided to stop rapture watching. I’m tired of getting disappointed and I would rather just focus on eternal life, what I have now with Jesus. No works required.
And I decided to be thankful for what I have right now.
4:19 first of many.
I'm going to maintain holy composure over these comments that come at you.
Your life has been completely upended in the past 18 months since I discovered your channel with challenges that would make the average guy go on a bender. You have been honest, not only in your witness but in sharing even a modicum of personal information relating to your struggles. I've seen/heard your testimony and your early years, and if anyone has understood checkmate better than you, I'd like to meet them.
The first 6 months I started to listen to you I thought maybe some of the same things. God convicted me every time I'd type the same damn question to you. That question continues to remain unanswered in the best possible way- God answered me. It is too hard to explain what that q was, but I'll tell you that you did a teaching in which the first minute, you were "complaining" about your situation and you cut yourself off, laughing and said,"No one cares."😅😅 Little did you know, you answered that question.
You see folks, it doesn't matter one whit what your situation is - the answer is Christ. Seriously. There is no other answer to any dilemma that you face. The sooner you can grasp this, the sooner you can rest. Ask David- I was a basket case with salvation questions when I first came on here. For me to understand this now and share with others is truly and only God. I have come SO far in the past 18 months and I guarantee it is from the riches of salvation through Christ alone via your teachings. God bless you. I pray for strength daily for you, and daily protection.
Thank you again Dave😊
Thank you!! I almost missed this!
Thanks David.
Thank you David !!!
She obviously has never heard any of your teachings before,because that's why I listen, your always defending the weak that live by faith opposed to the zeal that's in the flesh of the law-men ie, wolf's but thank you dave😊
u know i had such big fatih and it keept getting weaker nothing bad in my life happend , it just kept getting weaker and doesnt matter how many times i cry out to God he gives me the cold sholder and doesnt give me my original level of fatih im tired .
What do you mean? You had such big faith. I think the reason you're feeling so bad is because you think you're thinking of believing as some kind of work you do or some quality in you. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word. But what are you believing? Faith in what? Fate has an object and it's entirely focused on Christ himself. Not on something god's going to do for you. That's a disillusioning path. What we learn is what god's done for us in Christ. That is the subject and object of faith. To believe is to acknowledge what he's done. But what you're saying is I had this thing faith I don't have it anymore because God won't do XYZ. You're disappointed and disillusioned because the object of your believing is wrong and your definition of faith is wrong. That's okay. I've been there. It's miserable. But it's normal . Around. There's a lot of people who are getting set free
Sorry, David. I didn't mean to imply that you haven't suffered greatly, or don't understand suffering. Only that it "seems" that you don't understand "severe" physical suffering, such as cannot be avoided or treated with a doctrinal or attitude change... or even medication. I'm talking about physical pain that cannot be escaped or treated away. No matter how solid the understanding of justification is, life is going to be bad, from physical pain alone. Justification, the spirit of son-ship, inheritance, fellowship, etc. Once enough physical pain is involved, it no longer matters. Rapture or death becomes all that is longed for. That's what I meant. I have intimate knowledge of numerous believers often suffering in that condition.
Well actually I do have acquaintance with that in people around me there's a reason that half the people who listen to me are bedridden. But Christ is still the only remedy. And believe it or not I'm not even against assisted suicide. And I don't mean that as a matter of policy or that I never advise it or anything like that. What I mean is that I'm sympathetic for those who end up going that route because of severe pain. And I don't judge them for it. I'm appending this answer to make sure that's clear before anybody weaponizes this and runs off with it So I'm not saying pick yourself up by the bootstraps. But the people I'm responding to that's not their position. They are miserable, not because of those things but because of what they consume. They have a spiritual diet that consists of garbage
And then it is true that those channels merchandise the suffering of the poor and needy. Just like the prosperity movement does.
@@davidbenjamininchrist Thank you for that clarification. I do understand you were addressing a different crowd, and I agree with you. I too am not against suicide, although I hope for a better answer for anyone suffering that much. I'm glad you have that perspective.
Thank you for all your hard work and ministry. I truly have been blessed by your channel. And I'm well aware that deep, severe suffering has been a significant factor in how the Lord has imparted to you the wisdom to rightly minister to those of us who have been abused and deeply discouraged by the institutional church. Thanks to you, a rare few others, and what the Lord has done in me through my suffering, I have been able to minister to others who have also been trodden under by the man centered, institutional church system.