Very, very few guys here not juiced. Pretty sure Carlos Sastre was clean. Cadel Evans was probably clean. I think both would have beaten a clean Landis, but you never know. Then, you have to look pretty deep into the results to find someone. Kloden, Menchov, Schleck, Rasmussen, Moreau, Cunego, Leipheimer, Boogard, etc. most of the others were either busted, or pretty directly connected to doping at some or most points in their careers. (Sorry, Oscar, don't think you were clean, but it sucks you didn't get the glory with the win)
@@jorgeeduardozamoraacosta8627 Yes. I realize that. Also Schleck was a teammate and friend, and he doped. But nearly all his teammates, and the media, said he was clean. Riis once asked, suggested to him about microdosing, and according to Riis it pissed Sastre off. Also, Sastre's big wins were all rather boring, and in races when most of the dopers were banned, or forced to microdose if they could due to very high scrutiny at the time. I have a hard time trusting any of these guys. And it's quite possible many of the cleaner riders turned blind eyes to various "treatments". I got the impression Jalabert was like that. Alex Zulle made similar comments when his career was over. Trust the doctors, and don't ask. That's why I said "pretty sure" on Sastre and Evans. Always got the impression at the very least Evans tried his best to race clean, even if he wasn't 100% clean the whole time.
13:47 I told you mate, that shit 💉 is great.
Somebody here after todays Remco Evenepoel comeback in the Vuelta today? (9/11-23*)
4:42 "sikkerhedsnålen" .. Hæ Hæ..
Tak😊
Dope landis
One of the few from that era and rightfully called out for it!
@@MrTuxy you know it’s way more than a few. come on they all doped
Very, very few guys here not juiced. Pretty sure Carlos Sastre was clean. Cadel Evans was probably clean. I think both would have beaten a clean Landis, but you never know. Then, you have to look pretty deep into the results to find someone. Kloden, Menchov, Schleck, Rasmussen, Moreau, Cunego, Leipheimer, Boogard, etc. most of the others were either busted, or pretty directly connected to doping at some or most points in their careers.
(Sorry, Oscar, don't think you were clean, but it sucks you didn't get the glory with the win)
@@PhilAndersonOutside Sastre clean? He was working with Bjarne Riis and, prior to that Tour, he was prepared to be the domestique for Ivan Basso....
@@jorgeeduardozamoraacosta8627 Yes. I realize that. Also Schleck was a teammate and friend, and he doped. But nearly all his teammates, and the media, said he was clean. Riis once asked, suggested to him about microdosing, and according to Riis it pissed Sastre off. Also, Sastre's big wins were all rather boring, and in races when most of the dopers were banned, or forced to microdose if they could due to very high scrutiny at the time.
I have a hard time trusting any of these guys. And it's quite possible many of the cleaner riders turned blind eyes to various "treatments". I got the impression Jalabert was like that. Alex Zulle made similar comments when his career was over. Trust the doctors, and don't ask. That's why I said "pretty sure" on Sastre and Evans. Always got the impression at the very least Evans tried his best to race clean, even if he wasn't 100% clean the whole time.
interesting the last stage of this year tour is like a copy of this one. But i am still hoping not in all aspects...
Oscar vandt turen, men snød også med ulovlige midler.
th-cam.com/video/K9gQ_yDSo0A/w-d-xo.html
Han siger at han har taget ulovlige midler. Men han mener ikke han er doped
super aero lol
Floyd, the goat
he was doped