I was playing a gig with an older than myself jazz musician who played with Chet. At the end of the tune, we played an outro section. I play guitar and the musician was a horn player. I played a syncopated rhythm that was interacting with his improvisation, not just a bebop carpet. After the tune, he said I should follow him because he was a better musician. Like Chet, this guy was an egomaniac. Richie made something good of it.
I'm glad now that I've neglected writing poetry to push harder into indie alt journalism, where the writer eader communication feels more rewarding and more of a human exchange. The poetic trade-off is that for a decade or so my reading, discussing, writing about and thinking about poetry by old and new (to me) poets, even work-shopping\woodshedding with poets about their work rather than mine has increased as my appetite for reading and enjoying poetry and communication has grown exponentially. More than compensating for my own ego-involvement in producing my own "individually crafted" verse. Also, poetics in the broader sense (including my love of reading and writing essays especially) have felt more alive and emotionally immersive, less academic. Now here comes this AI experiment via Jazz Master Chat and there is no diminution of my enthusiasm for the outcome in the poem you've read and claim has been written by AI after your presentation of text to this kind of techno Bal or moloch. I really want to dislike the aesthetic end-product of the AI created verses drawn from Richie Beircach's emotionally moving communication with combo bassist Dave Liebman of this formative experience in his learning by playing and listening better to the "masters." What are we to make of finding such techno-resistance within ourselves despite the pedagogic and emotional exchanges with other humans that we want to consider on a whole other level of inter--personal communication? Jest askin', Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers) Media Discussion List\Looksee
An open mind... that's refreshing! I find it weird that some people can't look at this technology and simply be amazed at what it can accomplish. Do they fear a threat?
great episode....tough way to learn balance. However, as a writer, I'll have to admit that Artificial Intelligence product is a direct insult to the beautiful frailty and imperfection of human endeavor. Fuck AI. It makes as much sense as driverless big rigs.
RB is not so generous when it comes to Manfred Eicher. Richie is a phenomenal pianist. I would place him in the upper echelon. I would submit that AI is antithetical to the very ethos of jazz and hence has no place nor should it.
@@rillloudmother Well… I’m not showing this off as art. It’s tech. It’s simply some code that very quickly indexes a bunch of my best work (interviews, books, courses) so as to make it easier to locate information that is entertaining and useful for some musicians. Encourage exploration. Don’t be a cynic.
RB is pretty generous in his assessment of the situation. He is such a great musician.
R.I.P. RB! THX 4 All !!
I was playing a gig with an older than myself jazz musician who played with Chet. At the end of the tune, we played an outro section. I play guitar and the musician was a horn player. I played a syncopated rhythm that was interacting with his improvisation, not just a bebop carpet. After the tune, he said I should follow him because he was a better musician. Like Chet, this guy was an egomaniac. Richie made something good of it.
I'm glad now that I've neglected writing poetry to push harder into indie alt journalism, where the writer
eader communication feels more rewarding and more of a human exchange. The poetic trade-off is that for a decade or so my reading, discussing, writing about and thinking about poetry by old and new (to me) poets, even work-shopping\woodshedding with poets about their work rather than mine has increased as my appetite for reading and enjoying poetry and communication has grown exponentially. More than compensating for my own ego-involvement in producing my own "individually crafted" verse. Also, poetics in the broader sense (including my love of reading and writing essays especially) have felt more alive and emotionally immersive, less academic.
Now here comes this AI experiment via Jazz Master Chat and there is no diminution of my enthusiasm for the outcome in the poem you've read and claim has been written by AI after your presentation of text to this kind of techno Bal or moloch. I really want to dislike the aesthetic end-product of the AI created verses drawn from Richie Beircach's emotionally moving communication with combo bassist Dave Liebman of this formative experience in his learning by playing and listening better to the "masters." What are we to make of finding such techno-resistance within ourselves despite the pedagogic and emotional exchanges with other humans that we want to consider on a whole other level of inter--personal communication?
Jest askin',
Mitch Ritter\Paradigm Sifters, Code Shifters, PsalmSong Chasers
Lay-Low Studios, Ore-Wa (Refuge of Atonement Seekers)
Media Discussion List\Looksee
Unlike some of the purist who don't have an open mind, I thought the AI poem was phenomenal, it blew me away.
An open mind... that's refreshing! I find it weird that some people can't look at this technology and simply be amazed at what it can accomplish. Do they fear a threat?
Great story. Love Chet, he was a master.
Beirach should have told him to f- off.
Thank you.
great story!
Classic. Thanks.
That was lovely.
Awesome
great episode....tough way to learn balance. However, as a writer, I'll have to admit that Artificial Intelligence product is a direct insult to the beautiful frailty and imperfection of human endeavor. Fuck AI. It makes as much sense as driverless big rigs.
beautiful understanding among artful humans
RB is not so generous when it comes to Manfred Eicher. Richie is a phenomenal pianist. I would place him in the upper echelon. I would submit that AI is antithetical to the very ethos of jazz and hence has no place nor should it.
tell your AI not to quit its day job.
@@rillloudmother Well… I’m not showing this off as art. It’s tech. It’s simply some code that very quickly indexes a bunch of my best work (interviews, books, courses) so as to make it easier to locate information that is entertaining and useful for some musicians. Encourage exploration. Don’t be a cynic.
That is grandstanding from Chet... but Hey ! It sure made people pay attention.
Good story. Rubbish poem.
I wonder if you'd say that if I told you I worked hard creating that poem... Why so many AI haters??
RB is a great musician. ...they're a lot of asshole egomaniacs in the business. Chet Baker is among the top.