That Magairlin looks great! My friend Geoff Frost first registered this cross in2018 and I was amazed no one had made this cross before! We awarded Geoffs plant even before it was registered! Super cool cross that should be used in breeding.
I really like my flower - I like the shape, that it has spots and has remained fragrant for a while. I have so many seedlings coming that I am trying to find good homes for so many plants....
I crossed this flower earlier today with a large, spotted Cattleya. I do have some other really unusual tampensis crosses and am curious to see how they look in a few years. Thanks for your comment!
Thanks for your comment!! That flower opened today and I am just a little disappointed that it does not look more like a walkeriana. It seems to be a small flower that looks more like the bowringiana parent. I will make a video of it soon - maybe it will get nicer? I am picking up a new walkeriana this week at my local show. I lost my only walkeriana plant recently but I collected pollinia and used it successfully to make a few crosses before it went to orchid heaven. It was a nice flower - but, the plant was not very vigorous
I'd suggest you use your Hamlyn's Magic as the seed parent, rather than as a pollen parent. For no special or objective reason, other than the fact that it is likely smaller than what you plan the other parent plant to be. I generally prefer to cross the large one onto the small one, if I am not going to do it both ways. And your Hamlyn's is very vigorous, it won't suffer at all from carrying the capsule. And you get a sensation that you are going to improve size in the progeny, while you'd get a feeling you are decreasing size of the large flowers, if you were to do the other way around... this way you also keep the large flower to bear a capsule from another large flower's pollinia... None of this is very objective and it may make absolutely no real difference, I know, but... Also, Your C. Magairlin is awesome. How come a cattleya primary got registered only in 2018??? I would imagine there were no Cattleya primaries to be registered after mid last century! Last but not least: I am just as excited as you are, looking forward for Lily Genovese's blooms! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for your comment! I usually do cross the pollinia from the large to the small flower. My reasoning, which may not be valid, is that the pollen tubes from the larger flower will more easily reach the eggs of the small flower than visa versa. I have no data to support this. Genetically, the hybrids from reciprocal crosses will be very similar. Cytoplasmic genes are only inherited from the seed parent and that is the main difference. I will try crossing onto Hamlin's magic - maybe a spotted intermediate sized but wide petal cattleya? I think that there are a lot of hybrids yet to make and I do not have too many species so I still like making wide crosses. And Lily Genovese just opened today - it is exciting to get my first bloom on this plant but the flower seems to be a little boring.....
There are a great many species in the new genus _Cattleya_ , after the phylogenetics people got done with it. ChatGPT claims 114 but there are more because, well, ChatGPT misses things. Yet even if we pick 114 species in the genus then the pairwise combinations are 6441. And then we realize there are many, many more species in the _Laeliinae_ , many of which readily cross with the _Cattleya_ genus, many over 2000, which means there are millions of pairwise combinations, though many of the _Epidendrum_ may not give viable seed when crossed out.
@@TheDanEdwards Yes, but really, aclandiae and nobilior aren't, neither one of them, newbies in the genus or in the trade. I can't believe this pairing hasn't been made long before 2018! And I didn't know names would have to be registered again if one of the parents moved from one genus to another! It surprises me! I thought that you would have just the first name changed, like Sophrolaeliocattleyas turning into simply Cattleyas. So Slc Destiny becomes C. Destiny... is that right?
@@TheDanEdwards Wow - beautifully explained. I do look to see if someone has already made a cross before I make it. But, I have not yet shopped for species, specifically so that I could make a new cross. I even had colleagues who generated new genera with their crosses,, though it was unintentional.
That Magairlin looks great! My friend Geoff Frost first registered this cross in2018 and I was amazed no one had made this cross before! We awarded Geoffs plant even before it was registered! Super cool cross that should be used in breeding.
I really like my flower - I like the shape, that it has spots and has remained fragrant for a while. I have so many seedlings coming that I am trying to find good homes for so many plants....
You know what would be interesting? That Hamlyns Magic on one of your favorite vigorous Tampensis.
I crossed this flower earlier today with a large, spotted Cattleya. I do have some other really unusual tampensis crosses and am curious to see how they look in a few years. Thanks for your comment!
Your orchids are beautiful! I’m looking forward to seeing the one with the 3 cattleya cross. I love walkeriana!!
Thanks for your comment!! That flower opened today and I am just a little disappointed that it does not look more like a walkeriana. It seems to be a small flower that looks more like the bowringiana parent. I will make a video of it soon - maybe it will get nicer? I am picking up a new walkeriana this week at my local show. I lost my only walkeriana plant recently but I collected pollinia and used it successfully to make a few crosses before it went to orchid heaven. It was a nice flower - but, the plant was not very vigorous
@@plantpropagator I would love to see it. I have several walkeriana crosses and one species I think. Thank you again!
I'd suggest you use your Hamlyn's Magic as the seed parent, rather than as a pollen parent. For no special or objective reason, other than the fact that it is likely smaller than what you plan the other parent plant to be. I generally prefer to cross the large one onto the small one, if I am not going to do it both ways. And your Hamlyn's is very vigorous, it won't suffer at all from carrying the capsule. And you get a sensation that you are going to improve size in the progeny, while you'd get a feeling you are decreasing size of the large flowers, if you were to do the other way around... this way you also keep the large flower to bear a capsule from another large flower's pollinia... None of this is very objective and it may make absolutely no real difference, I know, but... Also, Your C. Magairlin is awesome. How come a cattleya primary got registered only in 2018??? I would imagine there were no Cattleya primaries to be registered after mid last century! Last but not least: I am just as excited as you are, looking forward for Lily Genovese's blooms! Thank you for sharing!
Thanks for your comment! I usually do cross the pollinia from the large to the small flower. My reasoning, which may not be valid, is that the pollen tubes from the larger flower will more easily reach the eggs of the small flower than visa versa. I have no data to support this. Genetically, the hybrids from reciprocal crosses will be very similar. Cytoplasmic genes are only inherited from the seed parent and that is the main difference. I will try crossing onto Hamlin's magic - maybe a spotted intermediate sized but wide petal cattleya? I think that there are a lot of hybrids yet to make and I do not have too many species so I still like making wide crosses. And Lily Genovese just opened today - it is exciting to get my first bloom on this plant but the flower seems to be a little boring.....
There are a great many species in the new genus _Cattleya_ , after the phylogenetics people got done with it. ChatGPT claims 114 but there are more because, well, ChatGPT misses things. Yet even if we pick 114 species in the genus then the pairwise combinations are 6441. And then we realize there are many, many more species in the _Laeliinae_ , many of which readily cross with the _Cattleya_ genus, many over 2000, which means there are millions of pairwise combinations, though many of the _Epidendrum_ may not give viable seed when crossed out.
@@TheDanEdwards Yes, but really, aclandiae and nobilior aren't, neither one of them, newbies in the genus or in the trade. I can't believe this pairing hasn't been made long before 2018! And I didn't know names would have to be registered again if one of the parents moved from one genus to another! It surprises me! I thought that you would have just the first name changed, like Sophrolaeliocattleyas turning into simply Cattleyas. So Slc Destiny becomes C. Destiny... is that right?
@@TheDanEdwards Wow - beautifully explained. I do look to see if someone has already made a cross before I make it. But, I have not yet shopped for species, specifically so that I could make a new cross. I even had colleagues who generated new genera with their crosses,, though it was unintentional.