Trixie, so many of my dear friends in the late 1980s in San Francisco were drag queens who did not survive the AIDS crisis, and I miss them so badly. The hilarious humor, raunchiness, and sense of the absurd that you and Katya bring to my life make me feel their presence again. Thank you so much for that.
As a former Christian who is a therapist. I can tell everyone I have NEVER had clients traumatized by Dragqueens. I DO have a LOT of clients that have endured horrific trauma in churches and religious families!
My niece who is a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma gets most of her patients from Catholic high schools. Please, tell you patients that they should never accept shame from the shameless.
yup. exactly. same. and what they're doing is like saying that all movies are inappropriate for children. No. don't damn the whole movie industry. Some are appropriate, some clearly aren't. There's such a thing as * genre * . Not all clowns are appropriate for children (like horror ones). Not all circuses are appropriate for children. Not all movies are appropriate for children. Not all concerts are appropriate for children. Not all spectator sports are appropriate for children (especially ones with swearing and violence). Not all religious services are appropriate for children. Not all drag shows are appropriate for children.
As someone with extensive religious trauma, I actually found a lot of comfort in drag queens, and the art of drag in general. The idea that someone was out there who could make a complete farce all while looking stunning, and lip-synching to some of my favourite songs. It was so comforting and got me through tough times, where, conveniently enough my religious trauma over took my life.
The fact that these women’s brother was sexually abused as a child and their mother saw it happen and did nothing to stop the abuse let’s you know who the real predators are
If a child is at a non-child friendly drag show, that’s on the parents, not the queens/kings. As Lady Gaga once said “Who tf hears the words Lady Gaga and Las Vegas and thinks ‘I’m bringing my kids!’“ like seriously, if you bring your kids to an adult drag show, the queens/kings aren’t going to change the performance to be more child friendly
@@hannarivers5872 that isn't their responsibility. they have so much going on with the show, kids coming is on the parents and no one else. and if kids do get in, it's out of their control
@@overgrownkudzu yeah not usually but they can and they should.. would u just let a kid into a strip club? no same thing if ur going to be talking about/doing s3xual things
I love how Trixie immediately picked up how these girls hate each other 😂 it's so obvious that they do not like each other. Also I love the transparency Trixie and I absolutely agree with you. I just... It's so weird to me that Christians live in this delusional world where the idea of letting other people exist, do what they want live how they want seems like terrorism to them.
I definitely agree not all drag shows are appropriate for children, however it's the parents responsibility to not take their children to those shows. You're not gonna take your child to a strip club then blame the strippers.
Exactly, especially as a drag queen who performs only at family friendly events, I definitely keep it completely kid appropriate. I mean my last number was literally me dressed in all white and glitter performing let it go lmao, I don't see how people think that's grooming when singers and Disney performers do just that all the time
@@ireliyuhh I think most parents expect family friendly drag shows to be just like you described, more classy and composed. The issue is with the Queens themselves that don't understand or care what makes a performance "family friendly." They're doing a great disservice to Drag Queens in general, who in my experience have been some of the warmest & funniest people to be around.
@Stephanie Mitchell yeah I think when it comes to those kinds of things its mostly a production issue because it's the job of whoever is producing the show to make sure the queen knows or has an idea of what Child friendly is supposed to be for them. Like I have to run songs and numbers by my producers first before they approve them lol
@@PatricenotPatrick uh, these disgusting shows are still drag shows. Drag is about such a wide variety of things that saying that drag is for kids is wrong and saying that it's not for kids is wrong. Some films are for kids, some aren't. Some books are for kids, some aren't. Some drag is for kids, some isn't.
i appreciated that, while trixie maintained a sense of respectfulness, she still called them out with no hesitation when they said something genuinely damaging. cruel people don't deserve to be baby-talked.
yes, this! it could have been very easy for Trixie to just go for full mockery or scathing, but she actually answered to the main point with eloquence and taking them seriously.
When I was younger I got lost in Las Vegas and I have never felt safer than with a group of drag queens who helped me find my parents. The drag community is amazing and anyone who says otherwise is wrong and I also have more trauma from people in the church than any other community I have been around.
as someone who lived near vegas and was absolutely horrified of it, i would be so comforted if a group of drag queens helped me find my parents.... and i am a pastors kid
yeah, they're so disconnected and it's hard to watch because they could be having so much fun but instead they're just ashamed and doing/saying what they've been taught
exactly i still can't find my peace with people like this after living all my life being told by people like them that i'm evil and wrong for being the way i am... i really hate that
I think you sumed it up perfectly. Those views are exactly why I stayed closeted and ashamed of who I was. Course the tide is turning big time and hopefully they will be the minority soon. Drag Queens gave me joy during my darkest times. Thankyou so much. What I have been through is probably nothing compared to what drag Queens have had to go through. From the bottom of my heart, thankyou queen's!
Yep I grew up with very accepting parents but we went to church, well mum did and my brother and I went with her, and I learnt to feel ashamed of myself. Took me a long time to realise I was denying who I was because of internalised shame I learnt far too young.
It is clear that these girls are also closeted or in relationships with men who are closeted. That’s the ONLY reason that I can give them an ounce of grace.
So true about "Do people go to therapy because they went to a Drag show? No". Meanwhile you've got millions of people scarred for life because of organized religion.
So true. I had a horrible time as a kid in church as well. Protestants claim to be so much more progressive compared to catholics but it was a protestant church we had a pastor being physically violent against "misbehaving" children, (He was moved after the second incident he hit a child as a form of punishment.) and a Sexton preying on underage girls. Lovely people these are...
It‘s the hypocrisy that gets me. They have a problem how drag is „pushed onto them“ (when it’s not) and them turn around pushing their religious beliefs on other people
I see almost every video unrelated to christianity have atleast 1-3 people comment Christian related things. I havent seen ANYONE comment under a random video "repent to Trixie Mattel"
@@sharroon7574 no they don't. if you watch those shows like toddlers and tiaras. the gigantic majority, if not All of the people there are conservatives.
As a woman, I've never felt insulted by a drag queen OR trans women. I have, however, had Christian cis women repeatedly insult me and try to take my rights away.
Insulted? LOL actually the opposite! I have never ending respect and awe (hope this is how it’s spelled) for drag queens, because I know much work and how hard it is to look like a hot woman… as a woman, imagine they are able to do it as men!! 🫶🙌
I mean, the only ones who insulted me are girl defined. I'm a cis woman, and girl defined just told me that my body is unacceptable, bit butts and boobs are clearly bad in their eyes. And simply existing with those features is "oversexualising" apparently.
i went to my first drag show recently, and for what it’s worth it’s the safest i ever felt. literally almost cried because i just knew that the people in that room are people who wouldn’t judge me for who i am.
I felt the same when I went to pride parade in our city. Thousands of people in the heat with little clothes on, yet I felt very safe and never uncomfortable. Can’t say the same for any nightclub with straight men
I’m a Christian and before I was saved I would use my fake ID to go to drag bars bc it was safer to go there and have fun than to go to normal bars. After I got saved I was still an ally. Going to drag shows and having friendships with queens make me feel so happy for many reasons but my favorite is that I genuinely feel celebrated in womanhood. I didn’t have a mom growing up queens taught me everything I know. I’m forever grateful they exist.
Drag is actually saving lives, the amount of joy and laughter I've been able to experience through this art have helped me go through my depression. Love you so much Trixie.
Ngl, there have been times where I genuinely felt like ending it, but then I'd turn on "UNHhhh" with Trixie and Katya and all of those negative emotions are filled with nothing but joy and laughter. It's genuinely insane how these people think.
it’s the way drag queens actually helped me embrace my femininity instead of hating it?? like i grew up in an environment where being feminine was “embarrassing” but after finding drag and watching trixie over the years, i’ve came to really love how feminine i am
This is how I feel about trans women. No one made me want to embrace my femininity and made me feel powerful in it until I saw a few trans women truly shine in their truth. I didn't realize how much shame I actually had about being female before then.
I dont know if there is an "Overton window" for gender expression but I completely understand what you mean. By expressing femininity in a way that is joyous, fun, and over the top, it makes our more every day expression of it feel more joyful too.
@CaptainPlasma1117 If it's a fringe case from a group they don't align with, then it needs to be plastered on all front pages. When it's institutionalised repression from their camp, suddenly it's a diversion tactic and a mischaracterisation of their personal lives.
I actually went to church where they had “drag Easter” because it was also transgender day of visibility. They had a really lovely drag queen who read a story to the kids, everyone came in drag, and our pastor talked about his journey of coming out as trans. My cousin got up during the sharing part and talked about how glad they were to feel safe, and I got to play around with masculine gender expression and found I had a lot of fun with it. I wish that church wasn’t two hours away from me because it’s one of the few places I still feel respected after leaving my really nice church when I moved.
I am 61 and straight and I ADORE YOU and Katya!!! I would never ever watch these miserable hate filled idiots , but I know that they exist. As a mom of a trans daughter, they terrify me!! But having you post this and watching your calm , even tempered and eloquent rebuttals of all of this slime is so WONDERFUL!!!! Thank you!!!!
They will say the most AGGRESSIVELY hateful and disrespectful things about queer people, but if you come back at them with even 10% of the same energy, they'll immediately start crying and say that we all just need to get along and respect each other's beliefs.
They love to lean into that "Christian Persecution" that is really just people telling them that the world does not and should not revolve around them.
Speaking as a suspiciously large cis woman, the popularization of drag has been amazing for me because for the first time ever, I can actually FIND thigh-high stockings for a six-foot tall person. (Don't even get me started on shoes--I end up shopping in the men's section at the mall whether I like it or not.) I've nothing but gratitude for the drag community; so much cute stuff just wasn't made in my size that's now accessible to me because online stores are selling to queens.
I have never been able to relate to a statement more. I have the exact same problem. Nothing is ever long enough for me, and I wear a size 11 shoe. So happy that I can find things now.
Where did all this “cis” nonsense come from?? People shouldn’t have to apologise for being straight male or female. Too many made up labels these days, so silly.
Literally like a Disney villain saying an objectively wrong thing in their speech so it can happen later. "Oh you really think friendship is going to save you" type beat.
When they say "look at this drag queen who became Christian" it's really easy to say, look at the thousands of drag queens who grew up religious and now they aren't 🤷♀️
My wife and I are Christian individuals and plan to have kids. We don’t attend church because it’s such a toxic environment. The percentage of girls who grew up in church being sexually assaulted by church staff or volunteers is heartbreaking. I really do believe drag would be safer for kids than church.
i really think it's a matter of which country you live in, in the Philippines it's not as big as an issue as mostly everyone is catholic and christians, I do love the churches I ever went to (not all because the speakers are bass boosted)
i think the safety of a church depends a lot on what neighborhood you live in. I live in a very secular, progressive, "university city" - if my church tried to pull anything icky on us (including homophobia or transphobia), they will get called out on it IMMEDIATELY. The power imbalance required for abuse to go unpunished is a lot harder to establish in a world where you are surrounded by nuanced messaging emphasizing the importance of consent and accountability. I hope you and your wife find a non-toxic church to attend if that is still something you wish for yourself and your family - church has been my safe space, when having to heal from family abuse trauma, and I wish that everyone had supports like that in their lives. Anyway, have a nice day!
I’m soooo glad you did this! I was raised catholic. Seeing the disturbing things that priests GOT AWAY with was so awful to me, it’s one of the reasons I don’t go to church any longer. Replacing the priests to different locations isn’t a justified punishment. But furthermore this ‘girl defined show’ is ridiculous. They are so uninformed it’s pathetic. It’s kind of sad more than anything.
I've been so anticipating this video. The amount of trauma women like this inflict in the church is wild. I'm still recovering and glad people are speaking out against. You were so much more gracious than I would be. Thank you for speaking out.
they inflict trauma because they HAVE been traumatized. they perpetuate the abuse they receive. I was one of these people. I am also recovering. toxic religious perfection and hypocrisy is so tiring.
I'm about 10 years out of the church and you know, I don't think I'm ever going to unpack the trauma from being raised in a fundamentalist christian church.
And it’s the fact that those women are married to closeted gay men who think it’s wrong to be who they are. Imagine if their brains weren’t so warped where they’d be, I bet SO much happier
I feel so awkward when people use chest size to refer to being explicit. I'm roughly a 42I and hit puberty early, I feel like for my whole pubescent period I've been trying to escape judgement from others.
I was going to comment something similar!! I’m a G / H size and I’m always struggling to find clothes that I’m comfortable in. I’ve seen online and in person, people with body types I’ve seen on Drag Race. It’s not “oversized” or “provocative” it’s a body shape.
Baby girl, express that God’s design and don’t mind these judgmental weirdo. It’s the same with women with naturally big butt “I didn’t ask for it, Karen. Sorry it offends you”
I heavily relate, especially being a non-binary trans. when you think more about it, you realize that the judgment mostly comes from a place of sexualization and it just makes me feel even more horrible. But as long as we're here for each other and keep our respect to one another, then no one can really take that away from us!
The rustle of your outfit reminds me of my mum before dementia took her over. She always dressed up she was an incredible dressmaker so her outfits were made of all the fancy stuff sequins, silk, tulle etc and she loved it and I loved it 😍 even though she can’t sew now and wears sweats, when I bring in a creation of hers she gets so excited and loves feeling the textures and running her hands over the detail etc ❤
They keep on mentioning the big breasts because they hate the female body, they hate themselves. The internalized misogny is so intense, I can't image what their internal thoughts are like.
To play Devil's Advocate here, the Church teaches that women's bodies are shameful and partially caused the downfall of Mankind. It's easy to see why they have a problem with the 'female' form. Such religious beliefs are just a form of PTSD, IMHO. 🖤
But these women also seem a lot more judgemental than I was, so I think they take all that anxiety and project it onto others. Less "am I godly enough" and more "OMG, Becky, look at how ungodly she is"
The worst thing is that so many women pull down other women because of their insecurities, envy, and jealousy. 90% of the insults that I've received all my life about my body and clothes came from other women.
They were probably abused (or their mother's projected their body issues on them) and they do hate their bodies. Or, and this is even more ridiculous and seriously damaging, since they belong to a wacko church, they probably had to do one of those ceremonies where they had to pledge their virginity to their fathers.
these girls must be SO miserable walking around letting every little thing deeply upset them like just. let people exist and you’ll be happier ashley and ashley
Have you SEEN their husbands? Those poor mfers are trapped in the closet (one is ex conversion therapy) so best BELIEVE they are projecting from their sad little Christian lives.
Trixie: "Drag is valid, and no one is going to therapy because they were exposed to drag." *Katya enters the room* Trixie: "I take back everything I said..."
I was emotionally abused on a daily basis by my evangelical peers going to school in conservative Alabama. I'm not gay or gender non-conforming, I'm just another version of "different". 'Godly' people said horrible things me, harassed me, sometimes sexually, pelted me with french fries in the cafeteria. What was I doing? Nothing. Sitting there eating my lunch.
I have never felt more comfortable then being surrounded by a group of queer kids. I jave never been less comfortable sitting in my churches youth group with girls my age.
Saying no drag is child friendly is like saying no theatre is child friendly. There is a world of difference between musicals like The Lion King and musicals like The Book of Mormon.
Honestly this stuff is so not new. Like girl defined portrays themselves as "brave" for speaking out about it but basically every Christian does so at a certain point it stops being that upsetting and just becomes funny lol
Oh my gosh every time I start to get heated I start remembering how dumb they sound and just laugh and go please let others see their blatant stupidity And why do these bitches hate themselves so much??? I love trixie ❤
As a small child in the 70’s, I was exposed to drag queens. What happened was SHOCKING. It made me open minded. And it taught me how to do my eyeshadow. These poor little morons.
Wow guess you got off easy then. A kid just got molested by one of these clownz! It was dragqueen story hour. You foolz need to stay away from the children honestly. Even other drag queens said this
idk if anyone else feels this way but as a cis woman watching drag has really helped me with body image and self esteem because drag queens embrace the female body in any shape without obsessing over size
Yes, this 100%. Trixie particularly has a way of seeing physical beauty in everyone, and this really was a reset for me. Drag/Trixie have taught me how to look at myself and SEE the beauty.
I have always been uncomfortable with my body no matter my age or size. dragcon 2018 Morgan McMichaels told me i had the most beautiful figure and signed my photo complimenting me on my "hour glass figure"😂My figure was very average, But her appreciation was 100% very real, i will never forget that. I pull the memory of that moment and complement anytime i need a confidence boost.
Having grown up in a very conservative church, I am so tired of the assumptions they make due to breast size. As a child, I was repeatedly shamed because my mother _believed_ I would develop large breasts. Not to mention the way I was treated once I actually developed them.
There are some sects / churches of Christianity that really act like you should hate yourself and be ashamed of yourself for having a rockin bod lol Like what a contradiction to all the other teaching about loving yourself and others 😂🤦🏼♀️
“do people go to therapy because they went to a drag show?” is a legendary perspective. i literally go to therapy heavily because i went to church and experienced, well, church things.
For my 13th bday I practically begged my mom to take me to a drag show and she did, I never had so much fun and felt so comfortable in such loving environment. I cant say the same about the church I used to go to though
My moms a lesbian so I grew up in the community going to pride every year. I can honestly say they didn’t sexualize me. But, I can also say I have 100% been sexualized by Christian figures
They now want us to say: person with a uterus!! I am a women!!! How can that new term be described as anything other than s€×ist?!! It literally means a person who can give birth!! They are saying that is our only defining feature!!! How is that not s€×ist?!! And guess why they want us to say that. So that we can be more inclusive to MEN who identify as women!!! Yeah, nah!!! I am never saying that!!! I am a woman!!! And if you have any pride as a woman, then quit defending these men!!
I love how Trixie is both this cursed, silly drag queen while simultaneously being very eloquent, intelligent and well spoken. She is talking with so much maturity and respect. Truly a great person to represent the community.
As someone who grew up watching my uncles do drag I can say my very conservative Christian parents absolutely fucked up my mental state and my gay, drag dressing, singing dancing uncles were the only people that kept me from being absolutely broken lol
Your uncles sound absolutely fabulous. Sorry that your parents suck. I have a friend who was born into an extremely religious, conservative household, and I keep hoping that she'll tell her parents to f off, but she's still seeking their approval : (
I genuinely think they don’t know the difference between drag and trans, etc. Its all lumped together in one big “scary” thing that’s super homophobic.
Honestly, as a girl with I cups and only 130-140 lbs I hate the oversized notion. I'm constantly sexualized and struggle to find any clothes that can fit properly. I know these women would judge me if they met me and that just makes all of this seem so fake, like jealousy and judgement directed at who they see as women but who don't fall into their standards of modesty and acceptable proportions. This is the reason I'm getting a reduction, because it's not worth dealing with people like them
It’s also the girls with the personality of cardboard that hate on other women. My friend is absolutely stacked and people accuse her of having all sorts of work done. It’s worse because she’s also so shy.
I'm so sorry. I hope you are happy with your reduction but I really wish you didnt have to get one because of these people. These people are not worth being around and their opinion is invalid and misguided. You deserve better.
Trixie could have (and should have) been as mean spirited as these two women but instead she talked about how nice they looked and how much their video quality has improved over the years. There’s only one classy woman here and it’s not Ashley or Ashley
@@daemionluccas490 the two sides of the spectrum we needed 😌 Nick dragged tf outta them & even made a mini remix song of the "it's not gonna lick itself" part 😆😆😆 Love both Trixie & Nick. Amazing creators 😌❤🙏🏻
I grew up in a very conservative area. Like, the progressive Mormon families were less strict than some of the Baptists kind of area. Lived next to a Baptist preacher that gave my mom the creeps...turned out he had multiple affairs with women he was giving marriage counseling to, and was caught by his daughter who suspected it, and had her husband follow him with a camera.
No really the way most drag queens respect women so much more than cis men do, enough that they’d be the last to ever harass a woman, despite how conservatives keep saying “cross dressers” only dress up to perv on women….
I'm certain they're conservative, but to be fair, I don't know if _they_ like child pageants. Seems like something they'd condemn for teaching vanity or something, and they wouldn't touch the gross costuming those kids are put in.
I WAS A CHILD AT A DRAG QUEEN SHOW!!!! 😂😂 My uncle, who has passed away, was a drag queen. My little sister and I were visiting my uncle with our aunt and cousin, he took us all to Disney land. He had a gig that night at a bar and grill, emphasis on the grill part, because children can go to bar and grills apparently. So there we were probably 8 and 9 at the time tipping drag queens in a place full of drunk people. We even got to go back where all the other queens were. Amazing night I will never forget. I turned out just fine 😂😂 RIP Desiree La Femme 💜💙
Totally in agreement with you about how weird it is when people, primarily the older generation, refer to “girlfriends” and “boyfriends” of little children. I have two daughters and I cringe every time an older relative comments on them “flirting” when they smile at them. Ew. Do they not hear how they’re sexualizing them? Yet they’re the same ones who think drag queens are corrupting our youth 🙄.
them saying drag queens shouldn't be near children/shouldn't be allowed at drag shows is really ironic since children are far less safe being in a church than being at a drag show 💀
My mom (rest her soul) took me to my fist drag show at 12 I only remember her coworker who did Cher Was awesome She really wasn't a fan of drag but was there for him because she loved her friend
Drag literally got me through the pandemic, post partum depression, regular depression and every bad thing that’s ever happened. Drag queens saved my life
I spent so much time trapped in internalized misogyny; drag queens helped me to understand and appreciate the unique power of femininity. I’ve grown so much bc of drag ❤
I wonder also if the vast amount of rapists in the world was also "gods design" ? 🤔 he certainly doesn't seem to be doing anything to stop them. Same with serial killers, paedophiles, thieves etc
I should imagine they've been taught that it's shameful. Any kind of outward feminine sexuality is a no-no for the fundamentalists of any religion because men can't be trusted to control themselves so the women are shamed into feeling guilt about having those body parts or long hair in the first place. First rule of any religion - blame the women!
I personally think it is such a compliment and honor that drag queens feel strong and empowered to dress and perform as woman. In a world where many men insult men by saying things like "you throw like a girl" or "your acting like a little girl" or "you sissy". Many men often refer to other men as being womanly as a way to insult them. So for those men out there... imagine how it is to be a woman and hear that you think it's a bad thing to be like a woman.... it really does make women feel like most men think we are inferior to them. The fact that drag queens often say that when they get dressed up as a woman and get to be a confident woman strutting the stage and performing their asses off like queens and it makes them feel empowered?... that is such a damn amazing compliment and I am so honored.
As a woman with a natural J cup chest size, I’m so offended that they’re calling breast plates “oversized”, like hello women do actually have big chests like that too. What a stupid delusional video they made.
No same! I recently just had a breast reduction from a G cup to a C cup (100% best decision I ever made and I’m so thankful that we could pay for it) and like…they were naturally big. I had to go through so much mental torment because of them. Like? Idk. Bad taste in my mouth.
Kristanny, or whatever her name is, hitting herself in the face with her notebook and Trixie’s editor playing it over and over again was top 👏🏻 tier 👏🏻 content 👏🏻
@@crackkillspuppies no one is insisting it and they do have drag queens that have kid friendly material aside from the more mature ones. It's no different than someone dressing up for party entertainment.
@@crackkillspuppies what you consider family friendly and what they/the people who attend those events consider it is subjective. My point is no is being forced to go or be involved. So why are they being told to stop as a whole when, like many other things, it's something some people enjoy and others don't. And that's perfectly fine.
It's obvious that drag is just a place holder for what they really wanna say: all queer people. But they know if they just say "gay people are predators" and "gay people are against gods design" more of their audience will correctly perceive it as hate, so they use this as a cover. Their enemy is not drag, what they truly want to destroy is gay rights, Trans rights and liberation.
No. As a Christian, I can say that that is a leap and a stereotype of Christianity. The vast, vast majority of lay (well, and not-lay, these days) Christians, do not think like that. That’s an overgeneralization that’s taught in order to engender hate. Just as, on the other side, we sometimes hear, “all queer/gay/trans people are, or want to groom your kids!” Hysteria and over-blowing the fringe on both sides, is no help.
I have always been a more masculine looking woman. I was shamed so much over the years by men and women for not being traditionally pretty. I hated myself. Then one day, out of the blue, Divine's "I'm so beautiful" came on. Something clicked at that time and I learned to start loving myself. Even though Divine has passed, I partially credit her with saving my life.
the strict, hateful enforcement of gender stereotypes onto others harms cisgender people too. i think more people need to realize that because they don't even know they're being hurt by it.
As a cis woman, I’d absolutely LOVE to do drag. The glamour, the wigs, the makeup, the shoes- none of it is anything I can wear during my normal day, and the idea of being able to participate is something I’d adore. It’s not a mockery, it’s a celebration 🥳
same! cis woman, but everything looks so much fun! for me it would be more about accentuating what i already have and celebrating femininity in a glamorous way
In the U.K., drag is a traditional part of theatre for children, especially at Christmas! The panto dame has existed since 1806 as a beloved drag character who is counted on to bring life to every performance. Panto theatre walks the line, being child-appropriate whilst still having a few Easter eggs (hidden adult jokes) for the parents. There’s also a British military tradition of men dressing up as women to do comedy and theatre to make each other laugh. It was listed in officer’s manuals as a way to build morale and esprit de corps back in WW1 and WW2. Despite the popularity of RPDR and the stars like Trixie who have gone on to be massively successful, I can’t imagine most Americans not being a little unnerved if dressing up as women were suggested as a new military tradition. Our empire and society in general may be in smoking ruins, but it isn’t the dame’s fault. Long may she reign!
“With oversized breasts”.... Ummm... do they not realise women can naturally have MASSIVE chests 😂 like J cups that end up needing to go on those TV shows so they can get a reduction
Trixie, so many of my dear friends in the late 1980s in San Francisco were drag queens who did not survive the AIDS crisis, and I miss them so badly. The hilarious humor, raunchiness, and sense of the absurd that you and Katya bring to my life make me feel their presence again. Thank you so much for that.
Sending you ❤️
Sending you love and I'm glad that you get to feel their presence again
So wholesome I love this content
I’m so sorry for you loss, that vive for life from friends you meet cannot be replaced. I’m sure you meant a lot to them
As a former Christian who is a therapist. I can tell everyone I have NEVER had clients traumatized by Dragqueens. I DO have a LOT of clients that have endured horrific trauma in churches and religious families!
My niece who is a clinical psychologist who specializes in trauma gets most of her patients from Catholic high schools. Please, tell you patients that they should never accept shame from the shameless.
@@frankelliott244 'Never accept shame from the shameless' You dropped this but I think I need it? Do you mind if I keep it?
Ya, but did they meet katia in person? lol I jest!
yup. exactly. same. and what they're doing is like saying that all movies are inappropriate for children. No. don't damn the whole movie industry. Some are appropriate, some clearly aren't. There's such a thing as * genre * .
Not all clowns are appropriate for children (like horror ones).
Not all circuses are appropriate for children.
Not all movies are appropriate for children.
Not all concerts are appropriate for children.
Not all spectator sports are appropriate for children (especially ones with swearing and violence).
Not all religious services are appropriate for children.
Not all drag shows are appropriate for children.
As someone with extensive religious trauma, I actually found a lot of comfort in drag queens, and the art of drag in general. The idea that someone was out there who could make a complete farce all while looking stunning, and lip-synching to some of my favourite songs. It was so comforting and got me through tough times, where, conveniently enough my religious trauma over took my life.
"Why are they dressing like overly sexualized females??"
The last drag show I went to: *had a drag queen dressed as Buzz Lightyear*
LMAO
Last drag show I went to they were all dressed like monsters, ghouls, and zombies lmao
Sexy buzz light year?
Didn’t Vivacious talk about a show where she dressed up as a radiator on season 5?
@@smaugkat I mean she ate but no it was like, the purple head covering and the giant chunky plastic wings 😭
The fact that these women’s brother was sexually abused as a child and their mother saw it happen and did nothing to stop the abuse let’s you know who the real predators are
What?!!!!!
Oop 💀
WTF?! Are you serious?
Ashley and Amber got CLOCKED
explain pls 💀
As someone who was raised to be just like these two, there's something really healing about having an outside party acknowledge how fucked up it is.
Same
Oh totally same here
I give you all of the congratulations for making it out alive💐
I agree 100%.
Breath of fresh air
As a larger *chested* woman, I never knew I was just “overdeveloped” lol
Me either but ya learn something new every day now don’t ya
We developed more bc they can't develop at all
We’re not. Their brains are just “underdeveloped”
Yeah, and girls like this are exactly why I hated my body for most of my life, because God's Design made my knockers "oversize.
They’re just jealous because their brains are underdeveloped. You’re beautiful!
If a child is at a non-child friendly drag show, that’s on the parents, not the queens/kings. As Lady Gaga once said “Who tf hears the words Lady Gaga and Las Vegas and thinks ‘I’m bringing my kids!’“ like seriously, if you bring your kids to an adult drag show, the queens/kings aren’t going to change the performance to be more child friendly
they shouldn't change the performance but they shouldn't let the kids in
@@hannarivers5872 that isn't their responsibility. they have so much going on with the show, kids coming is on the parents and no one else. and if kids do get in, it's out of their control
@@ElizabethGeis then they're weird
@@hannarivers5872 it's not usually the performers who enforce door policies
@@overgrownkudzu yeah not usually but they can and they should.. would u just let a kid into a strip club? no same thing if ur going to be talking about/doing s3xual things
I love how Trixie immediately picked up how these girls hate each other 😂 it's so obvious that they do not like each other. Also I love the transparency Trixie and I absolutely agree with you. I just... It's so weird to me that Christians live in this delusional world where the idea of letting other people exist, do what they want live how they want seems like terrorism to them.
Nail on the head. It literally is like terrorism to them. I escaped the church 10 yearsa ago and I've never met a less loving group of people.
It’s sad that once you walk into a Church you instantly feel the need to “ prove “ yourself.
the “it’s not gonna lick itself” is a tagline for a popular ice cream chain in tx…
The girls will take anything and everything out of context just to suit their narrative
LMFAO that’s great
Screaming!
Yea the drag show they are talking about was at a Cauldron Ice Cream. It wasn’t at a gay bar or nightclub it was at an ice cream shop.
You'd think they would know that, but I don't think fundie christian girls are allowed to leave the house.
I definitely agree not all drag shows are appropriate for children, however it's the parents responsibility to not take their children to those shows. You're not gonna take your child to a strip club then blame the strippers.
Exactly, especially as a drag queen who performs only at family friendly events, I definitely keep it completely kid appropriate. I mean my last number was literally me dressed in all white and glitter performing let it go lmao, I don't see how people think that's grooming when singers and Disney performers do just that all the time
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@@ireliyuhh I think most parents expect family friendly drag shows to be just like you described, more classy and composed. The issue is with the Queens themselves that don't understand or care what makes a performance "family friendly." They're doing a great disservice to Drag Queens in general, who in my experience have been some of the warmest & funniest people to be around.
@Stephanie Mitchell yeah I think when it comes to those kinds of things its mostly a production issue because it's the job of whoever is producing the show to make sure the queen knows or has an idea of what Child friendly is supposed to be for them. Like I have to run songs and numbers by my producers first before they approve them lol
@@PatricenotPatrick uh, these disgusting shows are still drag shows. Drag is about such a wide variety of things that saying that drag is for kids is wrong and saying that it's not for kids is wrong. Some films are for kids, some aren't. Some books are for kids, some aren't. Some drag is for kids, some isn't.
i appreciated that, while trixie maintained a sense of respectfulness, she still called them out with no hesitation when they said something genuinely damaging. cruel people don't deserve to be baby-talked.
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yes, this! it could have been very easy for Trixie to just go for full mockery or scathing, but she actually answered to the main point with eloquence and taking them seriously.
They say the most hurtful stuff with that baby tone ughh
Say it louder for the people in the back with their fingers in their ears
Yes!!! They may be immature but they're full grown women.
"there is FREEDOM when we FOLLOW god's design" what an oxymoron
It's the freedom of not making choices because someone is always making the choices for them. It's not real freedom at all.
@@andromedaspark2241 it's literally the opposite of freedom, honey
I RAN here to comment this and you already did it for me
@@topsi0130that’s what they said lmao
@@topsi0130
Are you actually this dumb?
When I was younger I got lost in Las Vegas and I have never felt safer than with a group of drag queens who helped me find my parents. The drag community is amazing and anyone who says otherwise is wrong and I also have more trauma from people in the church than any other community I have been around.
That's a cute story. Tysm for sharing
Aw that’s so sweet
Aww that is cool af and so nice of them to help you. Lol! Somehow i can imagine it happening as if it was a scene from a book or film.
Sounds like the plot to an Amazing movie that I would watch over and over.
as someone who lived near vegas and was absolutely horrified of it, i would be so comforted if a group of drag queens helped me find my parents.... and i am a pastors kid
Honestly, God's Design is kind of an amazing drag name
or some kind of satirical, demonic-themed makeup line
Welcome to the stage...
Welcome to the stage Gazee Zayn!
@@lydiajohnson4888 who tf is u and why u replying to ever single comment!? Get help💀 it gives “I want attention”
@@lydiajohnson4888 nigga what just join a debate class 😭 💀 not the gaslighting into wanting to argue, distraught discord emo behavior
Trixie is such a kind person for not mocking people like these, but instead, she feels sad for them.
yeah, they're so disconnected and it's hard to watch because they could be having so much fun but instead they're just ashamed and doing/saying what they've been taught
Its not even being kind, really, just enlightened and evolved.
INNOCUOUS NOT INNOCULOUS, tracy
exactly i still can't find my peace with people like this after living all my life being told by people like them that i'm evil and wrong for being the way i am... i really hate that
She has much more restraint and poise than I do.
These girls saw Mrs Doubtfire as kids and I doubt that it ruined their lives.
The attitudes of Ashley and Ashley are why I kept my sexuality closeted for three decades. Drag queens make life bearable for us .
Exactly! I live for drag. Sorry you had to go through that 😪
I think you sumed it up perfectly. Those views are exactly why I stayed closeted and ashamed of who I was. Course the tide is turning big time and hopefully they will be the minority soon. Drag Queens gave me joy during my darkest times. Thankyou so much. What I have been through is probably nothing compared to what drag Queens have had to go through. From the bottom of my heart, thankyou queen's!
Yep I grew up with very accepting parents but we went to church, well mum did and my brother and I went with her, and I learnt to feel ashamed of myself. Took me a long time to realise I was denying who I was because of internalised shame I learnt far too young.
It is clear that these girls are also closeted or in relationships with men who are closeted. That’s the ONLY reason that I can give them an ounce of grace.
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“Broadway twinks lip syncing to mother knows best from tangled” is my ideal night out tbh
The fact that the editors put a pic of Jinx up at that moment💀
Honestly same..
She read Jan.
I was at that performance by Jinkx, it was honestly transient. The crowd loved it too
Girl is this the Jinkx Monsoon BRAND!
So true about "Do people go to therapy because they went to a Drag show? No". Meanwhile you've got millions of people scarred for life because of organized religion.
So true. I had a horrible time as a kid in church as well. Protestants claim to be so much more progressive compared to catholics but it was a protestant church we had a pastor being physically violent against "misbehaving" children, (He was moved after the second incident he hit a child as a form of punishment.) and a Sexton preying on underage girls. Lovely people these are...
THIS!!!!
Can speak having been in the Christian church for most of my life growing up....they are the least loving people you will ever meet.
I kind of do go to therapy because of UNHhhh because thanks to it discovered that I wanted to live and needed professional guidance to go about that.
YES. YES. YES.
Just say Christianity! Plenty of other religions let people live.
It‘s the hypocrisy that gets me. They have a problem how drag is „pushed onto them“ (when it’s not) and them turn around pushing their religious beliefs on other people
I see almost every video unrelated to christianity have atleast 1-3 people comment Christian related things. I havent seen ANYONE comment under a random video "repent to Trixie Mattel"
jehovas witnesses. atleast twice a month. however not once have i encountered a queen show up at my door and tell me to do drag (totally would though)
The irony is those ladies probably have no issue with child beauty pageants
I know a lot of conservative people and they find those pageants disturbing. It's a minority that accepts it.
@@sharroon7574 ok?
@@sharroon7574 no they don't. if you watch those shows like toddlers and tiaras. the gigantic majority, if not All of the people there are conservatives.
@@skyco5395 yes, however they are not representative of all conservatives.
@@sharroon7574 ok??
As a woman, I've never felt insulted by a drag queen OR trans women. I have, however, had Christian cis women repeatedly insult me and try to take my rights away.
I just got some great eye-makeup tips from a video by Kim Chi, and I’m also a cis woman. Not offended.
Insulted? LOL actually the opposite!
I have never ending respect and awe (hope this is how it’s spelled) for drag queens, because I know much work and how hard it is to look like a hot woman… as a woman, imagine they are able to do it as men!! 🫶🙌
as another cis women, i also agree.
This 100% (as another cis woman)
I mean, the only ones who insulted me are girl defined. I'm a cis woman, and girl defined just told me that my body is unacceptable, bit butts and boobs are clearly bad in their eyes. And simply existing with those features is "oversexualising" apparently.
i went to my first drag show recently, and for what it’s worth it’s the safest i ever felt. literally almost cried because i just knew that the people in that room are people who wouldn’t judge me for who i am.
I felt the same when I went to pride parade in our city. Thousands of people in the heat with little clothes on, yet I felt very safe and never uncomfortable. Can’t say the same for any nightclub with straight men
touch grass please lol
You have serious mental health issues.
Get off social media and drink more water.
Unless you disagree with them. Then watch out.
How I felt when I went to a trixie concert. I felt so safe and so seen. It was beautiful.
I’m a Christian and before I was saved I would use my fake ID to go to drag bars bc it was safer to go there and have fun than to go to normal bars. After I got saved I was still an ally. Going to drag shows and having friendships with queens make me feel so happy for many reasons but my favorite is that I genuinely feel celebrated in womanhood. I didn’t have a mom growing up queens taught me everything I know. I’m forever grateful they exist.
As an atheist, I’m genuinely happy for you. Keep doing you sis 💅
Trixie and Katya NEED to do a drag parody of these two
Bathed in his blood
When Ashley hits her head with the board it should just explode into a geyser of fake blood and confetti.
@@lnfreeman I think this is plenty of time spent on them no need to acknowledge them further
@@scottydoggymama Baethd in hes blüüd
@@scottydoggymama while I do love the idea of a novympia style parody of these ahem.....ladies, this is a valid point
Drag is actually saving lives, the amount of joy and laughter I've been able to experience through this art have helped me go through my depression. Love you so much Trixie.
Literally!
Ngl, there have been times where I genuinely felt like ending it, but then I'd turn on "UNHhhh" with Trixie and Katya and all of those negative emotions are filled with nothing but joy and laughter. It's genuinely insane how these people think.
Same for me...
100%!
It's cause these two want everyone as miserable as they are. Sorry we actually find things to make us happy, Ashley and Ashley.
it’s the way drag queens actually helped me embrace my femininity instead of hating it?? like i grew up in an environment where being feminine was “embarrassing” but after finding drag and watching trixie over the years, i’ve came to really love how feminine i am
This is how I feel about trans women. No one made me want to embrace my femininity and made me feel powerful in it until I saw a few trans women truly shine in their truth. I didn't realize how much shame I actually had about being female before then.
I dont know if there is an "Overton window" for gender expression but I completely understand what you mean. By expressing femininity in a way that is joyous, fun, and over the top, it makes our more every day expression of it feel more joyful too.
Big same
@@PrettyGuardian oh, gender is definitely on a spectrum! 😊💯!
that's so beautiful!!!
If only people like this cared as much about child poverty, homelessness, and abuse, as they do about children going to a drag show...
Those sisters energy is misdirected
Or about the abuse of Children, the Immigrant Children in Those Damn camps, by the OFFICIALS
Yup, bring up child marriage to these people and they don’t care
@CaptainPlasma1117 If it's a fringe case from a group they don't align with, then it needs to be plastered on all front pages. When it's institutionalised repression from their camp, suddenly it's a diversion tactic and a mischaracterisation of their personal lives.
I just get hateful vibes from them. I get warm, loving, accepting vibes from you. That says everything, in my opinion.
I do too! They give fake mean girls vibes
period
i mean regardless the attitude theyre mindset is just toxic and dumb and well not a fan personaly
they look like they were the middle school bullies who constantly played the victim when they got caught
Truth. 💕💕💕💖
Ashley and Ashley talking about delusion while being delusional, I can't😭😭😭
I am DYING 🤣
ashleigh and ashlee
Assley and Ashslay
Pretty sure it's Ashleigh and Ashley 😂😂
@@sortasofi254 💀
"Do people go to therapy because they went to a drag show? No." MY FAVORITE LINE RELIGIOUS TRAUMA IS SO REAL PLENTY OF THERAPISTS SPECIALIZE IN IT
Trixie finally became so famous that bots are pretending to be her. that's a milestone for some
Well I've seen Trixie's show and needed therapy after LOL
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they both cause trauma.
@@vivtzka there's no kid in therapy cuz they saw a drag show literally none and if you want to make that claim provide the evidence I'll wait .
I actually went to church where they had “drag Easter” because it was also transgender day of visibility. They had a really lovely drag queen who read a story to the kids, everyone came in drag, and our pastor talked about his journey of coming out as trans. My cousin got up during the sharing part and talked about how glad they were to feel safe, and I got to play around with masculine gender expression and found I had a lot of fun with it. I wish that church wasn’t two hours away from me because it’s one of the few places I still feel respected after leaving my really nice church when I moved.
I think they have no idea that doing drag and being trans are two different things…
That is very real. My boss said as much in a meeting and we had a round-table discussion between financial reports.
They have no idea about Christ message as well.
theyre completely uneducated on drag, trans folks and christianity/the bible
Most likely- I wasn’t a Christian and before I started watching drag race I was very confused about this
And that both are perfectly okay, and do not affect them in any way whatsoever.
I am 61 and straight and I ADORE YOU and Katya!!! I would never ever watch these miserable hate filled idiots , but I know that they exist. As a mom of a trans daughter, they terrify me!! But having you post this and watching your calm , even tempered and eloquent rebuttals of all of this slime is so WONDERFUL!!!! Thank you!!!!
queen annette
Please welcome to the stage, Anne Ally!
Loves to all the cool moms ❤️
A true queen has spoken! Thank you for sharing!
They will say the most AGGRESSIVELY hateful and disrespectful things about queer people, but if you come back at them with even 10% of the same energy, they'll immediately start crying and say that we all just need to get along and respect each other's beliefs.
They love to lean into that "Christian Persecution" that is really just people telling them that the world does not and should not revolve around them.
One of the million of reasons I absolutely hate Christian’s
no hate like Christian love!!
@@toebiter69 I don't know if you came up with that, but that's a fierce line
Amen
“Eve was the first woman and I bet she was stacked” 💀💀💀💀
Also you’re always serving 💅🏻
Speaking as a suspiciously large cis woman, the popularization of drag has been amazing for me because for the first time ever, I can actually FIND thigh-high stockings for a six-foot tall person. (Don't even get me started on shoes--I end up shopping in the men's section at the mall whether I like it or not.) I've nothing but gratitude for the drag community; so much cute stuff just wasn't made in my size that's now accessible to me because online stores are selling to queens.
OK but your comment is awesome, seriously I love it
I have never been able to relate to a statement more. I have the exact same problem. Nothing is ever long enough for me, and I wear a size 11 shoe. So happy that I can find things now.
As a 5’11” tall cis woman I feel this in my bones
Where did all this “cis” nonsense come from?? People shouldn’t have to apologise for being straight male or female. Too many made up labels these days, so silly.
Haha that's great I love that for you :) there's a king of the hill ep about that
the best part is when she says “we tell kids anyone can be anything” and then has to try to find a way to make that sound like a bad thing
Literally like a Disney villain saying an objectively wrong thing in their speech so it can happen later. "Oh you really think friendship is going to save you" type beat.
Its bad because it's not true. For example, if you're a boy you can never be a girl
@@binkin7304 This comment was so on point that I laughed out loud.
You can almost SEE in her eyes the look of panic like, "Well I really stepped in it now, gotta follow through with this..."
@@PrettyGuardian I just wonder do these people not hear themselves when they speak? Just spitting pure evil without blinking
When they say "look at this drag queen who became Christian" it's really easy to say, look at the thousands of drag queens who grew up religious and now they aren't 🤷♀️
A single case is enough for them, UNLESS it's all the cases of priests being rapists 😇
Or the queens that are gay affirming Christians. They know that the "clobber clauses " do not apply to them.
Yes but the drag queen who turned Christian is much healthier and happier
@@firasjemil213 Lmao, no ma'am
@@sassagrass7095 well there are a lot of famous drag Queen that are religious
My wife and I are Christian individuals and plan to have kids. We don’t attend church because it’s such a toxic environment. The percentage of girls who grew up in church being sexually assaulted by church staff or volunteers is heartbreaking. I really do believe drag would be safer for kids than church.
And the amount of boys who have been molested by said people.
i really think it's a matter of which country you live in, in the Philippines it's not as big as an issue as mostly everyone is catholic and christians, I do love the churches I ever went to (not all because the speakers are bass boosted)
i think the safety of a church depends a lot on what neighborhood you live in. I live in a very secular, progressive, "university city" - if my church tried to pull anything icky on us (including homophobia or transphobia), they will get called out on it IMMEDIATELY. The power imbalance required for abuse to go unpunished is a lot harder to establish in a world where you are surrounded by nuanced messaging emphasizing the importance of consent and accountability.
I hope you and your wife find a non-toxic church to attend if that is still something you wish for yourself and your family - church has been my safe space, when having to heal from family abuse trauma, and I wish that everyone had supports like that in their lives.
Anyway, have a nice day!
I’m soooo glad you did this! I was raised catholic. Seeing the disturbing things that priests GOT AWAY with was so awful to me, it’s one of the reasons I don’t go to church any longer. Replacing the priests to different locations isn’t a justified punishment. But furthermore this ‘girl defined show’ is ridiculous. They are so uninformed it’s pathetic. It’s kind of sad more than anything.
Girl same xx
I wish you get justice
Also the "it's not going to lick itself" was a double entendre because they were handing out ice cream. Way to twist the narrative Ashleys.
Priests? Men in dresses at a whole other level.
P
I've been so anticipating this video. The amount of trauma women like this inflict in the church is wild. I'm still recovering and glad people are speaking out against. You were so much more gracious than I would be. Thank you for speaking out.
they inflict trauma because they HAVE been traumatized. they perpetuate the abuse they receive. I was one of these people. I am also recovering. toxic religious perfection and hypocrisy is so tiring.
I'm about 10 years out of the church and you know, I don't think I'm ever going to unpack the trauma from being raised in a fundamentalist christian church.
@@fluffyphoenix8082 100%
@@obviouslysj I hear you. Me too.
And it’s the fact that those women are married to closeted gay men who think it’s wrong to be who they are. Imagine if their brains weren’t so warped where they’d be, I bet SO much happier
I feel so awkward when people use chest size to refer to being explicit. I'm roughly a 42I and hit puberty early, I feel like for my whole pubescent period I've been trying to escape judgement from others.
I was going to comment something similar!! I’m a G / H size and I’m always struggling to find clothes that I’m comfortable in.
I’ve seen online and in person, people with body types I’ve seen on Drag Race. It’s not “oversized” or “provocative” it’s a body shape.
Baby girl, express that God’s design and don’t mind these judgmental weirdo. It’s the same with women with naturally big butt “I didn’t ask for it, Karen. Sorry it offends you”
Yes! I had a full rack at 13, and had to change my entire wardrobe bc it was suddenly “too inappropriate” like… it’s just how my body it shaped.
Literally the entire time they shamed bigger breasts as if a lot of people don’t also naturally have them
I heavily relate, especially being a non-binary trans. when you think more about it, you realize that the judgment mostly comes from a place of sexualization and it just makes me feel even more horrible. But as long as we're here for each other and keep our respect to one another, then no one can really take that away from us!
The rustle of your outfit reminds me of my mum before dementia took her over. She always dressed up she was an incredible dressmaker so her outfits were made of all the fancy stuff sequins, silk, tulle etc and she loved it and I loved it 😍 even though she can’t sew now and wears sweats, when I bring in a creation of hers she gets so excited and loves feeling the textures and running her hands over the detail etc ❤
Ten years of attending the Mormon cult made me develop OCD and sent me to therapy. Watching drag healed my brain 💜💜💜
Oh my gosh…I developed scrupulous OCD too thanks to my religious and cultish upbringing. Glad to know I’m not alone and hope you’re doing well!! 🖤🖤🖤
Being raised Roman Catholic gave me OCD as well
Born and raised Mormon and am now currently working through the trauma it caused in therapy. Religion is a poison.
omg fellow exmo in the wild💖 sending all the love and healing
I also have OCD
They keep on mentioning the big breasts because they hate the female body, they hate themselves. The internalized misogny is so intense, I can't image what their internal thoughts are like.
To play Devil's Advocate here, the Church teaches that women's bodies are shameful and partially caused the downfall of Mankind. It's easy to see why they have a problem with the 'female' form. Such religious beliefs are just a form of PTSD, IMHO. 🖤
But these women also seem a lot more judgemental than I was, so I think they take all that anxiety and project it onto others.
Less "am I godly enough" and more "OMG, Becky, look at how ungodly she is"
The worst thing is that so many women pull down other women because of their insecurities, envy, and jealousy. 90% of the insults that I've received all my life about my body and clothes came from other women.
And that's on religion sis
They were probably abused (or their mother's projected their body issues on them) and they do hate their bodies. Or, and this is even more ridiculous and seriously damaging, since they belong to a wacko church, they probably had to do one of those ceremonies where they had to pledge their virginity to their fathers.
Katyas cameo in this video is a priceless gem and I will watch it over and over.
I live for unexpected Katya cameos
She's my Church
all hail Katya! 👑
They're women wearing pants... which was drag 100 years ago...
EXCELLENT POINT
brilliant point lol
these girls must be SO miserable walking around letting every little thing deeply upset them like just. let people exist and you’ll be happier ashley and ashley
I wonder if Ashleigh or Mckinleigh have a job aside from saying words with no substance
@@keelyhockley7958 I doubt they're allowed.
Have you SEEN their husbands? Those poor mfers are trapped in the closet (one is ex conversion therapy) so best BELIEVE they are projecting from their sad little Christian lives.
Krysstinne and Behthuhny will never learn to let go, I don't think
lmao ashley and ashley
Trixie: "Drag is valid, and no one is going to therapy because they were exposed to drag."
*Katya enters the room*
Trixie: "I take back everything I said..."
🤣
For real, she really said hate that skank
Katya is just in therapy because they're Katya and that's why we love them
This was classic ❤
@@BlueRidgeBubblei’m also in therapy because katya is katya
Some of the worst bullying i’ve ever experienced in life, came from youth groups at church.
I was emotionally abused on a daily basis by my evangelical peers going to school in conservative Alabama. I'm not gay or gender non-conforming, I'm just another version of "different". 'Godly' people said horrible things me, harassed me, sometimes sexually, pelted me with french fries in the cafeteria. What was I doing? Nothing. Sitting there eating my lunch.
Same
@@moonlily1 I'm sorry you had to go through that :(
I have never felt more comfortable then being surrounded by a group of queer kids. I jave never been less comfortable sitting in my churches youth group with girls my age.
Yikes... Mine was a Catholic school. 😅
Saying no drag is child friendly is like saying no theatre is child friendly. There is a world of difference between musicals like The Lion King and musicals like The Book of Mormon.
Trixie, if I were in your position, I'd be so triggered and annoyed. You're so emotionally mature and calm, I hope to be like you one day.
I couldn't even watch the whole video because i wanted to throw something at those two girls
Honestly this stuff is so not new. Like girl defined portrays themselves as "brave" for speaking out about it but basically every Christian does so at a certain point it stops being that upsetting and just becomes funny lol
So true. She’s a class act
Oh my gosh every time I start to get heated I start remembering how dumb they sound and just laugh and go please let others see their blatant stupidity
And why do these bitches hate themselves so much???
I love trixie ❤
@@bookgirlny8511 queer people are used to this
As a small child in the 70’s, I was exposed to drag queens. What happened was SHOCKING. It made me open minded. And it taught me how to do my eyeshadow. These poor little morons.
Wow guess you got off easy then. A kid just got molested by one of these clownz! It was dragqueen story hour. You foolz need to stay away from the children honestly. Even other drag queens said this
@Yung Mohel Lmao you think you made a valid point. Is that you? Ashley? Or is it your other awful sister, Ashley?
@Yung Mohel girl be fr
@Yung Mohellearning how to do eyeshadow is abuse? What kind of snowflake are you?
@Yung Mohel Seeing a drag show is not abuse lmao 🤣💀💀 you most likely need to go see a professional yourself.
idk if anyone else feels this way but as a cis woman watching drag has really helped me with body image and self esteem because drag queens embrace the female body in any shape without obsessing over size
Yes, this 100%. Trixie particularly has a way of seeing physical beauty in everyone, and this really was a reset for me. Drag/Trixie have taught me how to look at myself and SEE the beauty.
Drag has made me ashamed to be a woman
Wow...I never considered this
I have always been uncomfortable with my body no matter my age or size. dragcon 2018 Morgan McMichaels told me i had the most beautiful figure and signed my photo complimenting me on my "hour glass figure"😂My figure was very average, But her appreciation was 100% very real, i will never forget that. I pull the memory of that moment and complement anytime i need a confidence boost.
@@lydiajohnson4888 aw, that’s tough
“We all have a designer” donatella VERSACE 💜
"I saw someone lip syncing with a puppet and now I'm not Christian anymore" had me CACKLING
The only reason they wouldn't be Christian anymore is because of all the BS that false Christians spew out making people not want to be like that.
That someone was james mansfield
I want this on a tee shirt so bad.
11:41
Omg I happened to read this comment as it happened in the video lol
Those girls were not only talking about drag without having knowledge about what drag actually is, they were also being transphobic af
I mean who would've guessed they hate trans people too 😅
Period.
Ongggg
THANK YOU❤❤❤❤
PERIODD
Having grown up in a very conservative church, I am so tired of the assumptions they make due to breast size. As a child, I was repeatedly shamed because my mother _believed_ I would develop large breasts. Not to mention the way I was treated once I actually developed them.
The way conservative Christians sexualise kids is extremely creepy.
Glad someone is commenting on this. It is a very strange thing being shammed on something you cannot even control.
it's like they should've accepted glob's design or something
There are some sects / churches of Christianity that really act like you should hate yourself and be ashamed of yourself for having a rockin bod lol
Like what a contradiction to all the other teaching about loving yourself and others 😂🤦🏼♀️
Wait what sis--- 😭
“do people go to therapy because they went to a drag show?” is a legendary perspective. i literally go to therapy heavily because i went to church and experienced, well, church things.
"I think we all know where men put on dresses and f*ck kids." She snapped with this lmao. It's true and you should say it
S N A P P E D
I literally screamed 💀💀
the call is coming from inside the house mam
LET IT BE KNOWN MISS MAMAS
she ate DOWN 😭
"Skimpy clothes" "lets get back to gods design" Honey, being naked was God's design 😂
AMEN
When they get back to their original hair color I would at least not call them hypocrites.
Lmao exactly
Yeah, let's not forget that it was Adam and Eve who first decided that being naked was shameful.
@@Voirreydirector YOU ATE THEM UP OMG 💀
ban kids from hooters, then!!!! ban child pageants, then!! do these people not understand that it’s not the performers decision, but the parents??
Say it!!!
For my 13th bday I practically begged my mom to take me to a drag show and she did, I never had so much fun and felt so comfortable in such loving environment. I cant say the same about the church I used to go to though
My moms a lesbian so I grew up in the community going to pride every year. I can honestly say they didn’t sexualize me. But, I can also say I have 100% been sexualized by Christian figures
They now want us to say: person with a uterus!!
I am a women!!!
How can that new term be described as anything other than s€×ist?!!
It literally means a person who can give birth!!
They are saying that is our only defining feature!!!
How is that not s€×ist?!!
And guess why they want us to say that.
So that we can be more inclusive to MEN who identify as women!!!
Yeah, nah!!!
I am never saying that!!!
I am a woman!!!
And if you have any pride as a woman, then quit defending these men!!
Those aren't Christians than, they are liera
A little louder for those in the back mama 👏👏
I’m so sorry you went through that. I did too. It sucks. I’m glad you’re speaking on that.
YUP. It’s so backwards
I love how Trixie is both this cursed, silly drag queen while simultaneously being very eloquent, intelligent and well spoken. She is talking with so much maturity and respect. Truly a great person to represent the community.
period
@@FluentlyFletch and thats on periodic table sis
She's just cool that way
As someone who grew up watching my uncles do drag I can say my very conservative Christian parents absolutely fucked up my mental state and my gay, drag dressing, singing dancing uncles were the only people that kept me from being absolutely broken lol
Once again Christianity is the problem! Shocker!
Your uncles sound like great people
Your uncles sound absolutely fabulous. Sorry that your parents suck. I have a friend who was born into an extremely religious, conservative household, and I keep hoping that she'll tell her parents to f off, but she's still seeking their approval : (
Parents sometimes screw up your life. My life is almost completely screwed.
They probably ate
I genuinely think they don’t know the difference between drag and trans, etc. Its all lumped together in one big “scary” thing that’s super homophobic.
Honestly, as a girl with I cups and only 130-140 lbs I hate the oversized notion. I'm constantly sexualized and struggle to find any clothes that can fit properly. I know these women would judge me if they met me and that just makes all of this seem so fake, like jealousy and judgement directed at who they see as women but who don't fall into their standards of modesty and acceptable proportions. This is the reason I'm getting a reduction, because it's not worth dealing with people like them
It’s also the girls with the personality of cardboard that hate on other women. My friend is absolutely stacked and people accuse her of having all sorts of work done. It’s worse because she’s also so shy.
@@goldenboy3154 poor thing. Tell her she's a great woman and that she'll find people who care about her for her personality, it just takes some time!!
I'm so sorry that that happened to your friend!! Ppl can be so idiotic and ignorant
I'm so sorry. I hope you are happy with your reduction but I really wish you didnt have to get one because of these people. These people are not worth being around and their opinion is invalid and misguided. You deserve better.
❤
Trixie could have (and should have) been as mean spirited as these two women but instead she talked about how nice they looked and how much their video quality has improved over the years. There’s only one classy woman here and it’s not Ashley or Ashley
morr like Ashley and Ashleigh 😭
We've just decided that they're both called Ashley, and I love it 😆
@@camel6848 Aheshileiygeh
meanwhile......nick diramio is saying..."if you can't think of anything nice to say about them,,,,,come sit by me" lol
@@daemionluccas490 the two sides of the spectrum we needed 😌 Nick dragged tf outta them & even made a mini remix song of the "it's not gonna lick itself" part 😆😆😆 Love both Trixie & Nick. Amazing creators 😌❤🙏🏻
“Do people go to therapy because they went to a drag show?” As a person with church trauma this line is underrated.
Tell me about it
same
They should go to therapy, and many of them do
For some people drag is therapy.
@@becp488 no it isn't. They might act like it's therapy, but it's actively hurting them
“We all know where men put on dresses and f*** kids and its not at drag shows”
MIC DROPPPPPP
I was harassed by several adult men at
church, but never at a drag show. 🤨🤷🏻♀️
I grew up in a very conservative area. Like, the progressive Mormon families were less strict than some of the Baptists kind of area. Lived next to a Baptist preacher that gave my mom the creeps...turned out he had multiple affairs with women he was giving marriage counseling to, and was caught by his daughter who suspected it, and had her husband follow him with a camera.
I'm sorry that happened to you
I hope you're ok :(
No really the way most drag queens respect women so much more than cis men do, enough that they’d be the last to ever harass a woman, despite how conservatives keep saying “cross dressers” only dress up to perv on women….
Child pageants. You wanna talk about gross sexualization of children? Conservatives LOVE child pageants.
oop. facts.
This!
Frrr. christian women love toddlers and tiaras. dont even get me started on the photoshop of their headshots.
I'm certain they're conservative, but to be fair, I don't know if _they_ like child pageants. Seems like something they'd condemn for teaching vanity or something, and they wouldn't touch the gross costuming those kids are put in.
I wouldn't say that. Most of the conservatives that I have seen talk on the issue are also very against pageants.
I WAS A CHILD AT A DRAG QUEEN SHOW!!!! 😂😂 My uncle, who has passed away, was a drag queen. My little sister and I were visiting my uncle with our aunt and cousin, he took us all to Disney land. He had a gig that night at a bar and grill, emphasis on the grill part, because children can go to bar and grills apparently. So there we were probably 8 and 9 at the time tipping drag queens in a place full of drunk people. We even got to go back where all the other queens were. Amazing night I will never forget. I turned out just fine 😂😂
RIP Desiree La Femme 💜💙
💜
Your uncle sounds like an absolute blast to be around. RIP Desiree La Femme.
Ohhh i just love this comment so much! Desirée La Femme will be so proud of you!
Give it up for Desiree La Femme everybody! 👏👏👏✨✨✨
Y'all are all so amazing and I can't thank you enough for your kind comments. 💙💜
Totally in agreement with you about how weird it is when people, primarily the older generation, refer to “girlfriends” and “boyfriends” of little children. I have two daughters and I cringe every time an older relative comments on them “flirting” when they smile at them. Ew. Do they not hear how they’re sexualizing them? Yet they’re the same ones who think drag queens are corrupting our youth 🙄.
It must suck to be afraid of everything and everyone.
This is why it's miserable to be around my family. They have the same mindset
Must be very sad having a vision of the world so constricted
How does talking about something you don't like, having an opinion, equate to bring afraid of everything?
@@passionneal7777 I mean, if you're "opinion" is basically hating others just because they have a different lifestyle...
I think that sums it up perfectly. Well said.
I got sexually assaulted at church but never once felt unsafe at a drag show
PERIODDD
I went to a drag club for the first time about a month ago and I never felt safer.
I’m sorry that happened to you ❤️
I am so terribly sorry that happened to you. My heart goes out to you 💕💗
@@laurenturtleful maybe don’t say period to a comment were they say they got assaulted
them saying drag queens shouldn't be near children/shouldn't be allowed at drag shows is really ironic since children are far less safe being in a church than being at a drag show 💀
OUUU U SPILLEDD
not to side with them, but children are at more risk of getting molested at school than at a church
they safer at a drag show then they are at school
💅
@@alimay4342 LITERALLY w all the padding queens wear they're basically bulletproof
My mom (rest her soul) took me to my fist drag show at 12
I only remember her coworker who did Cher
Was awesome
She really wasn't a fan of drag but was there for him because she loved her friend
“Do you guys get the sense that these women hate each other?”
Yes, Trixie. They hate all women
Somebody pin this comment already
Yes!
THIS!!!
Esp. women of color
For real
Drag literally got me through the pandemic, post partum depression, regular depression and every bad thing that’s ever happened. Drag queens saved my life
❤️❤️❤️❤️
Are you me? Because same.
So because of that children should be exposed to this! Think you have brain damage and not depression
💞
The pandemic, high school, gender dysphoria... drag has literally helped me through so much.
I spent so much time trapped in internalized misogyny; drag queens helped me to understand and appreciate the unique power of femininity. I’ve grown so much bc of drag ❤
I can’t believe they wear makeup, do their hair, or even wear clothes since the designer designed so perfectly!
the way my jaw DROPPED
I love how protecting ‘god’s design’ doesn’t stop them getting those shopping mall highlights.
I wonder also if the vast amount of rapists in the world was also "gods design" ? 🤔 he certainly doesn't seem to be doing anything to stop them. Same with serial killers, paedophiles, thieves etc
Have your well deserved like sir 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
@@Laura.D3101
I thank ye. 🥰
SCREAMING 😭
Thank you! I cannot stop staring at the ends 😂
“Breasts that are way too large” and how does she feel about women that actually have these “overdeveloped” bodies naturally?
I should imagine they've been taught that it's shameful. Any kind of outward feminine sexuality is a no-no for the fundamentalists of any religion because men can't be trusted to control themselves so the women are shamed into feeling guilt about having those body parts or long hair in the first place. First rule of any religion - blame the women!
Probably thinks they're living in ain. 😂😂😂
You mean the hispanic and black women? Yeah, the white christian fundamentalists never were big fans 🤷
uhh they're obviously leading men to sin lmao
I really wonder if they're just jealous. Lol
I personally think it is such a compliment and honor that drag queens feel strong and empowered to dress and perform as woman. In a world where many men insult men by saying things like "you throw like a girl" or "your acting like a little girl" or "you sissy". Many men often refer to other men as being womanly as a way to insult them. So for those men out there... imagine how it is to be a woman and hear that you think it's a bad thing to be like a woman.... it really does make women feel like most men think we are inferior to them. The fact that drag queens often say that when they get dressed up as a woman and get to be a confident woman strutting the stage and performing their asses off like queens and it makes them feel empowered?... that is such a damn amazing compliment and I am so honored.
“drag queen nightclub party” sounds like how shein would advertise a drag show
😂😂😂
Me freshly 18 trying to find the move:
LMAO
This is literally one of the BEST looks she’s ever had. Like she is transcendent she is out of this world she is superhuman in this look
She looks like superstar Barbie
those shoulders! Glowing.
@@crookedletterpress reminding the children once again of the importance of body-makeup
As a woman with a natural J cup chest size, I’m so offended that they’re calling breast plates “oversized”, like hello women do actually have big chests like that too. What a stupid delusional video they made.
J cup ??? omg your back must hurt a lot. I have d cups and it's already so hard
hi sorry hi sorry hi sorry
Girl I am so sorry for you
No same! I recently just had a breast reduction from a G cup to a C cup (100% best decision I ever made and I’m so thankful that we could pay for it) and like…they were naturally big. I had to go through so much mental torment because of them. Like? Idk. Bad taste in my mouth.
Same. DD here.
they learned the words “over-sexualization” and desperately wanted to prove they could use it in a sentence
Kristanny, or whatever her name is, hitting herself in the face with her notebook and Trixie’s editor playing it over and over again was top 👏🏻 tier 👏🏻 content 👏🏻
Thank you, editor, for this gift. 🙏🙏🙏
Christine Ashley Bethany McKayla Madison
Kristanny! Lmao 🤣
@@averageday *Maddisynn 😂
Pls pls time stamp 😭
The fact they think people are taking babies to nightclubs ☠☠ i simply cant!!!
Gurl there’s literally footage of straight parents doing that
@@Cha_Cha_Chai And let's not forget Hooters
Are you being stupid on purpose? There's videos all around the internet of parents doing that.
I read that as barbies for a second and was confused why that is a bad thing... I can't leave my girl barbie behind for a party!
@@Cha_Cha_Chai and why is that gay people's problem??? lol
It has never occurred to me that drag was something worth worrying about in a negative way. Ever.
Same, like Trixie said. It's just dressing up. I guess the conservatives are ....overreacting or something.
It’s the rights new talking point. A divisive issue to get everyone riled up and distracted from the people up top not doing their jobs
It wasn't until recent years when a bunch of people started insisting on involving kids in drag events.
@@crackkillspuppies no one is insisting it and they do have drag queens that have kid friendly material aside from the more mature ones. It's no different than someone dressing up for party entertainment.
@@crackkillspuppies what you consider family friendly and what they/the people who attend those events consider it is subjective. My point is no is being forced to go or be involved. So why are they being told to stop as a whole when, like many other things, it's something some people enjoy and others don't. And that's perfectly fine.
“Speak truth and love” coming from them is RICH
I love how they always claim their opinions to be the truth and not just an opinion.
It's obvious that drag is just a place holder for what they really wanna say: all queer people. But they know if they just say "gay people are predators" and "gay people are against gods design" more of their audience will correctly perceive it as hate, so they use this as a cover. Their enemy is not drag, what they truly want to destroy is gay rights, Trans rights and liberation.
No. As a Christian, I can say that that is a leap and a stereotype of Christianity. The vast, vast majority of lay (well, and not-lay, these days) Christians, do not think like that. That’s an overgeneralization that’s taught in order to engender hate. Just as, on the other side, we sometimes hear, “all queer/gay/trans people are, or want to groom your kids!” Hysteria and over-blowing the fringe on both sides, is no help.
I was thinking exactly the same thing...
Not true. Many gay people don't want to be associated with drags anymore. See gaysagainstgroomers
@@karaa7595 Congratulations you're promoting a hate group
It's so true 😭
I have always been a more masculine looking woman. I was shamed so much over the years by men and women for not being traditionally pretty. I hated myself. Then one day, out of the blue, Divine's "I'm so beautiful" came on. Something clicked at that time and I learned to start loving myself. Even though Divine has passed, I partially credit her with saving my life.
Divine was divine.🥰
I completely relate. Especially boys would be the ones that bullied me just because I looked different.
Yes yes yes! Drag Queens made me feel like I could be myself.
Same. Drag shows have gave me so much power to be who I am and I am a christian "woman". The hate comes from their lack of understanding period.
the strict, hateful enforcement of gender stereotypes onto others harms cisgender people too. i think more people need to realize that because they don't even know they're being hurt by it.
As a cis woman, I’d absolutely LOVE to do drag. The glamour, the wigs, the makeup, the shoes- none of it is anything I can wear during my normal day, and the idea of being able to participate is something I’d adore. It’s not a mockery, it’s a celebration 🥳
You can absoultely do drag! Drag King, Queen or whatever, go for it.
same! cis woman, but everything looks so much fun! for me it would be more about accentuating what i already have and celebrating femininity in a glamorous way
Honestly it looks so fun
Literally it honors and celebrates femininity
celebration or mockery both ways it's fun as Long as it doesn't come from a place of misogyny
In the U.K., drag is a traditional part of theatre for children, especially at Christmas! The panto dame has existed since 1806 as a beloved drag character who is counted on to bring life to every performance. Panto theatre walks the line, being child-appropriate whilst still having a few Easter eggs (hidden adult jokes) for the parents.
There’s also a British military tradition of men dressing up as women to do comedy and theatre to make each other laugh. It was listed in officer’s manuals as a way to build morale and esprit de corps back in WW1 and WW2. Despite the popularity of RPDR and the stars like Trixie who have gone on to be massively successful, I can’t imagine most Americans not being a little unnerved if dressing up as women were suggested as a new military tradition.
Our empire and society in general may be in smoking ruins, but it isn’t the dame’s fault. Long may she reign!
"dressing as oversexualized women" trixie is literally dressed like her grandmother 60 years ago
literally, most drag queens and drag is mostly known for the over glamorous gowns and pageants. where's the oversexualization they talk abt so much 😟😟
Almost a Barbara Cartland character.
“With oversized breasts”.... Ummm... do they not realise women can naturally have MASSIVE chests 😂 like J cups that end up needing to go on those TV shows so they can get a reduction
@@elenalizabeth there's a lot of fatphobia in churches and shaming of curves.
That and the fact that a huge portion of camp queens literally dress more conservatively than Bethany and christen do💀