I am adding a new rule. No help or questions answered unless it's related to the video and you are subscribed to the channel. It takes up to much time to reply and I am not free tech support.
Mk2 have a misprint as a result of a printing error. +- 6.4 is where the top dots should be still. Hence all mk5 and newer have the 6.4 written correctly on the plynth. Great job, you calibrated it perfectly.
5:00 By choosing 262.0 your +/- is potentially at a maximum .08 off instead of setting it to 262.1 which could have at maximum been .11 off. You made the correct decision. If you would have chosen 262.1 there's no way to know if it's 262.10 or 262.19, you would have been in the same situation but a potentially worse one... because math. If your multi-meter only displays to the tenth decimal go with 262.0. :) I noticed your meter is on the auto ranging function. Some meters will allow you to change the decimal place but you must take it out of auto ranging mode. Great video! I don't have technics but it was still a very interesting video and I'm sure it will help a lot of people out there to see how to calibrate it the proper way.
Thank you for all your videos. I was dj for several years but quit 20 years ago. My son has grown up listening to all my old cds and wants me to teach him. I told him I would teach him but insisted he learn really mix on his own before flexing the tech of today. Went out and bought 2 used 1200’s and they were completely jacked up. They were the kind of decks that you see dj’s in clubs throw their arms up and walk off. On BOTH I had to rewire the arms, replace the RCA PCB, disassemble and clean the pitch’s, and calibrate. You alone got me through all that, other than finding a clear answer on where the black wire that goes into arm ground. It may be in one of your videos. I just didn’t find it when I needed it. Other than that, you got me from having 2 worthless turntables that seemed to have been in clubs for 30 years, to 2 perfectly working turntables. Now I just need some 12” skins and I’m all set.😂
hI DJ LEGION. I have Gemini PT2400 and wanted to calibrate the pitch as to achieve neutral speed you need to move fader to nearly +2%.Sadly I can not find a pot near main pitch fader.I did clean up pitch fader but no luck.There is a pot on on the motor board, no changes to pitch if you move it. I may try to solder some pots to fader with different values and see if I can tweak it up.
Awesome, thanks for taking time to explain all this, find it super interesting eventhough I’m not a technician but own one of this wonderful machines. Great job!
Video is properly made and really helped me . Unfortunately I cannot measure and calibrate the frequency . My multimeter can measure frequency but maybe it is not of great quality .
Thank you soooo much to put this information online. i need that to fix my turntable and i can do it now. the serivce i send my turntables once has no clue at all. he just sold a new pitch to me but didnt calibrate it accurately. so i have to do it by myself now.
Really good tutorial bro but i am facing a problem for a month now that no one can help me. I own both a 1200 mk2 and a 1210 mk2 for 2 months. Everything was ok till the moment i decided to clean up the faders. I followed every step of yours with lubricants and contact cleaners. I measured the ohms 2.7 with a multimeter i owned and i put the fader back. I play with traktor timecodes and guess what. When the normal speed to a track was + -1 for example a track that is 122 bpm with timecodes appeared 121,98 or 121,99 at 33rpm something like that which is normal. Now the speed is not as stable as was. I mean that now goes + - 0,05 and is not so accurate that is was before and when i go to 45 rpm it goes + - 0,15. This happens to both turntables. I tried to measure the frequency i put it to hz measurement but it doesn't count. I changed 2 multimeters with hz option. Nothing! I tried to adjust the VR 301 manually according to the dots but the speed is not stable as it was. I am going crazy really because I spent too much money. Can you help me please? I would appreciate it if i talk directly with you with some way.
Thanks for a video I got new pitches installed, both new and seems good, +6 stationary on both and 3.75 not 3.3%, happy with that, But around central area is totally mess if i move to negative side it at the beginning moves to positive and then goes down to negative, about 1.5% is opposite when it switches to right side, to make clear, reduce speed moving up fader but instead pitch increase and at the point of 1.5% it does reduce speed! On both new pitches same problem! Does it makes clear and how do you deal with it?
I put brand new pitch faders in my turntables and calibrated exactly to the service manual standard of the pitch at 2.7K and the frequency at 262.08 (I have a 6 and 1/2 digit multimeter, calibrated). The plus and minus 6 is bang on but 3.3 both ends is off by 1-2 %, any ideas? Great vid, many thanks! Curtis P.S both pitches were the proper -2 pitches for this model.
Hi, even though you set the center to 2.7 what are the dots like when you move off center by a small amount ? I do not know any other adjustments it's just the two so perhaps some other passive components is slightly out of spec on the main board. Is it the same on both decks ? if so then it could also be the way the carbon tracks on the new pitch are setup.
@@GGarcia7111 just ti answer everybody, ive been servicing these decks for years butits very rare that the pitch matches the grid perfect. Its an all analogue turntable and the only 2 adjustments only allow you to calibrate a few things. I personally always try to match the better around +3.3 and +6 with a calibrated 0, and i then the minus part may vary. I know most djs play at positive pitch anyways!
Great video ! Very helpful.i bought the VC99 and do the same very easily.Thanks a lot.i have one question, in how many days,years can I do the check again ?
One thing I just noticed in the service manual for the MK5 is VR302 on the Pitch Fader should be set to 2.875 +/- 0.25 K.ohms. VR301 remains the same. Is this something you do for MK5 models?
@@floor12evgenis it the same process? Do you need to take a pitch out? I saw a vid where he just flipped the deck over. I have mk5 also and they need this
I followed the steps in the second half of the video to calibrate the frequency but my multimeter shows -1 or -000,1 kHz. I turned on my Turntable and set the multimeter on frequency mode as you explained it. Anyone knows what to do?
Hi...i have the same problem with 2 zero points...i do everything you do...find the 2nd zero point...take the value...return the pitch to zero but when i try to move the vr302 on pitch pcb there Is no value change. It Is stucked at 8.22. What could be the problem? The vr302 50k ohm? The pitch fader? Or the pcb? I measure the pitch in ohm. Thank you
My problem is that my 0 point is at 0, but also at +0.5. Does this depend on the inner potentiometer on the pitch board itself? maybe this is not properly calibrated? Thanks for this great video!
THank you so much for this video and the other one you made. I just finished cleaning and calibrating the pitch. It's not a perfect (I get 6% at 6.5) but its damn close. without your videos I would not have the confidence to do this
Yo! Thanks for the stuff, its priceless. But i have a problem thoe 😂 After setting 2.7K i measure those pins and get 0Hz every time. Multimeter is NEW and as the manual says, works between 99.9 Hz - 1000 kHz. Any ideas what could went wrong? Both decks O Hz. Thanks for your replay in advance, big up!
Be carefull just because the dmm is new dosent mean its Gospel something could have hapend to it during shipping Hence the crap of proving units dont get me started
Any advance? I am in the same situation, in the two scales of the multimeter it indicates 0Hz in any range of VR301. But in the deck it does act. The problem is that it doesn't react on the multimeter, always value 0. Obviously I have it turned on and pitch at "0" (2'70Ω) and led ON. Sorry for the translation, I'm using Google translate.
i have this same issue, i'm using a Klein MM1000 across TP27 and G but i am not getting any frequency reading, it seems to have a similar range 9.999Hz ˜ 999.9kHz resolution 0.001Hz ˜ 0.1kHz
Hi, i just bought a Technics 1200MK3 and it seems needs calibrate the pitch. The 0 position seems ok , the +6 looks like it is moving a bit to the left, the +3.3 and -3.3 is at +2.2 and -2.2. ¿Any tip to recalibrate it? Thanks
Hi Dj legion. First of all, thank you for your tutorial. The second thing is that I wanted to tell you about a problem I'm having. I'm following every step of your video. When I perform the test by setting the selector to 20k the multimeter shows the value of 4,530. The problem is that even if I turn the VR302 component to one side or the other, the value of the multimeter does not change. Can you tell me why this is happening to me? Thanks in advance.
I have the same issue, no change when adjusting VR302, perhaps there's a difference with the newer 8 pin fader boards, because I can adjust the VR302 on the older 6 pin fader boards for 2.70 with no problem
Hi. I have the problem with the double zero. With the pitch at zero (and the LED on) it turns perfectly, when i accelerate with the pitch in the Moment that the led turns off instead of going faster, the turntable slows down to return to a new zero on a value of about +2.5. It holds the +6 and +3.3 very well, a little less the -3.3 but it is at acceptable levels. Searching on the web I found various tutorials to solve my problem, the point is that when I connect the multimeter to the pitch (obviously disconnected from the turntable) I have an X value, and going to modify the VR302 trimmer that value should modify right? To me it remains fixed and constant. The tests I have carried out are the following: I have completely replaced the pitch, putting the One of my other turntable, and it works perfectly, so I rule out problems with the motherboard or others stuffs of the turntable. With the Multimeter attached to the Brown and Red of the pitch (disconnected from the turntable) I tried to move the pitch fader and the value changes (so apparently the fader is good) but with the same configuration by acting on the vr302 the value remains fixed and constant (so apparently the vr302 doesn't work). At that point I connected the Multimeter to the vr302 and rotating it the value changes, so apparently it is good. I am also going crazy because if there was something to replace I would not know what specifically, and with the times that are running I do not want to spend more than I should. 😬 Sorry if I wrote a lot but I hope I have explained the problem well and what tests I did.
Have you ever had it where the turntable changes speed up and down ? What’s the best way to fix it? It’s especially bad just above and below the 0 position
Hi legion. I have a question. I recently bought a technics sl 1210 mk5. It is in new condition. However, it needs oiling. Can you recommend any videos how to do this?
unless you mean the center bearing for the platter I am not sure. you just buy some of the correct oil and squish into the top of the bearing and wiggle up and down.
Hi! I know it’s a noob question however it’s not mentioned (or at least I didn’t catch) where you have set the frequency potmetre to when adjusting V301. I have seen previous videos where it’s been set to 20k upon doing it on the pitch itself at the OHM area. Is that correct? Reason I ask because my reader is giving me ridiculous values, 7.805 kinda stuffs... As Im not a technical genious I guess I have done something wrong. Thank you!
just bought new pair of sfdz122n11-2 faders and if i do exactly the same you did in the video, i have two zero points. i have to calibrate pitch to 2,544 with 262,08hz to have 0 and 6 perfect. but then my +3,3 is around +2,1 so that area is pretty bad to mix at, because its so sensitive to movements. on my other deck the pitch is calibrated to 2,566 with 262,08hz. also +0 and +6 is perfect but +3,3 is around 2,5 there.. also really hard to mix in that area. how do i make them faders calibrated the same ? one deck is around 1999 other one 2008
This and your other video's are very helpful. After I adjusted the pitch like above (and cleaned and lubed the pitch control from your other video), I still get a +.1/-.1 pitch fluctuation (keeps bouncing between 2 constantly) when I an connected using Serato. Is this normal or could it be something else?
that is not related to the pitch control it's self. It could be noisy signals or even the deck is fluctuating it's speed enough for serato to see, but not enough by looking at the dots on the platter. Wow and Flutter I think. you can get apps that can check for this on your phone.
@@DJlegionuk Many thanks! I talked to an old DJ friend of mine and he believes the little bit of fluctuation will be there regardless-Serato is just that sensitive.
I am going to tackle this tomorrow. Just waiting on my multimeter to come in the mail. My turntable dots line up perfectly at +6, +3.3, and 0. However, the -3.3 dots seem to line up at -2.5. Am I being too anal here?
@@aa-jn3ks It is fine. Analogue pitches are difficult to be "perfect". Many factors can contribute. What you want is for those middle dots to move smoothly forwards ...then stopping.... then backwards with smooth movement of the fader. If you want perfect pitches, you have to go MK7s and up... which are digital.
Hi, on one of my pitches, the range of resistance only goes as high as 2.22. Do I need to replace the variable resistor? On my second pitch, I adjusted to 2.7 but it then steadily drops by 0.01. I went for a smoke, came back and the resistance had dropped to like 2.648 or something. Any ideas if they can be fixed? Tried cleaning both pitches with contact cleaner.
what do you mean it only went to 2.22 ? the pitch are 0 - 20k so only going to 2.2 would be very bad. Have you cleaned the adjuster on the pitch as well ? that can change the readings as much as the pitch so give that a full turns all the way to the min and max and if you have deoxit a spray, perhaps that will help. have you taken the pitch apart and looked at the carbon tracks ? no amount of cleaning will work if the carbon it just worn out around the centre point.
Ok, I just finished calibrating my 2 Technics 1200 mk2 from 1996 That I bought when I was younger, was my first pair brand new and only thing replaced was pitch on both units ten years ago, did not know how to calibrate them right until last week when I saw your video. Thanks so much for your help!!!!
@@DJlegionuk it’s a fairly new pitch so wouldn’t expect the traces to be wearing already but I guess it’s not impossible,if the led is on it’s way out I’d expect it to be dim on the reset button too ? I guess I’ll just have to open it and have a look..thanks for replying 👍
Got a new astroAi dt132a, frequency meter just shows 0 hz... I have lead clips on right and the turn table turned on... tried on 2 turntables, any advice? Meter worked fine on adjusting pitch fader resistance
Do you find this much more difficult to do on the M3D and higher models? Mostly because the center click is disengaged since you have the pitch reset button. How would you go about with doing that?
@@DJlegionuk oh okay! I followed your tips tried to align the zero marker on the pitch as close as I can. So far so good, both of my decks are pretty spot on.
Hey DJ legion please help me out. I did exactly the same like you, got the VR302 on 262.1 Hz And beforehand I got the pitch fader on the zero position at 2.75 Om Still the pitch is slightly incorret when I check the dots on the platter. I didn't disasamble nor clean the pitch fader it self beforehand which I will do this week. Do you think it will have an impact on the fader's accuracy? What else could cause an incorrect pitch control? There is no 2nd zero point nor something else wrong. It is just a little bit out of range and this tutorial doesn't fix it....
HI, so is it ok at the +6%, but not at the 3.3% ? when you move it off the center click do the dots change smooth or is there a small jump. I think the 2.75 value is the problem and I would try 2.9k and then change the frequency until the 6% is correct again. If the resistance of the pitch is wrong because it's worn out or is dirty using the 2.7K value will not work. So try 2.9K and re-adjust the frequency if this does not work just keep tweaking until you get it as close as possible.
@@DJlegionuk Hello there, That sounds reasonable. I will try that. I can get all of the plus values to be accurate but especially the minus 3.3% not! The dots showing me minus 3.3% when the actual fader is only at minus 2.5%... I reached Plus 6% and plus 3.3% accurately to be clear. The jump of the dots when I move the fader off the center is quite smooth I'd say. Not very abprubt. I ve got one more safety question. Does it damage the motherboard or something else of the turntable when I would adjust VR302 while the turntable is switched onn? Did that accidently several times x)
@@DJlegionuk Can you please provide the links of both the multimeter, and all of the probe cables that you're using? That would be helpful because, as I'm watching your tutorial, I'm seeing that you're using about four probe cables. So where are the green ground and red positive probe cables connect from as well? I'm a bit confused, so if you can clarify where all of your probe cables are connecting from, that would be greatly appreciated as well.
My pitches was fucked I didn’t no anyone who could fix them so I took my technics apart and now I don’t have decks anymore I just have parts in a basket 🥀
@@DJlegionuk yes, you have to fix the second zero point aswell. I just did the calibration on both my decks. I first did step one with HZ and plugged in deck. then unplugged calibration of pitch. but third step was when i plugged it back in, it had 2 zero points. so i just fixed that and both are perfect at +3,3 -3,3 +6 :)
@@SWAREDNB I am starting to wonder if they changed these settings on some mk2 models. On most of the recent decks I have checked 2.7k on the centre click and 262.08 does not work and is way off at +6%. I found they have around 2.9k and 261.08 and this is a lot better on the pitch range. I still prefer setting this up without the frequency counter and just adjusting both until I get it perfect, it takes a little longer, but seams to work a lot better.
@@DJlegionuk i think it's the pitch fader cause i feel when i use them, one of the pitch faders is a bit harder when it moves but seems a little more precise cause you feel every move. so, maybe there are two versions of mk2 pitch faders and maybe you don't know and have one from mk5 or so in your deck
Hi...i have the same problem with 2 zero points...i do everything you do...find the 2nd zero point...take the value...return the pitch to zero but when i try to move the vr302 on pitch pcb there Is no value change. It Is stucked at 8.22. What could be the problem? The vr302 50k ohm? The pitch fader? Or the pcb? Thank you
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Mk2 have a misprint as a result of a printing error. +- 6.4 is where the top dots should be still. Hence all mk5 and newer have the 6.4 written correctly on the plynth. Great job, you calibrated it perfectly.
5:00 By choosing 262.0 your +/- is potentially at a maximum .08 off instead of setting it to 262.1 which could have at maximum been .11 off. You made the correct decision. If you would have chosen 262.1 there's no way to know if it's 262.10 or 262.19, you would have been in the same situation but a potentially worse one... because math. If your multi-meter only displays to the tenth decimal go with 262.0. :) I noticed your meter is on the auto ranging function. Some meters will allow you to change the decimal place but you must take it out of auto ranging mode. Great video! I don't have technics but it was still a very interesting video and I'm sure it will help a lot of people out there to see how to calibrate it the proper way.
I do not think the VICi can adjust the range on the frequencies, I am sure I would have tried it.
Thank you for all your videos.
I was dj for several years but quit 20 years ago. My son has grown up listening to all my old cds and wants me to teach him. I told him I would teach him but insisted he learn really mix on his own before flexing the tech of today. Went out and bought 2 used 1200’s and they were completely jacked up. They were the kind of decks that you see dj’s in clubs throw their arms up and walk off. On BOTH I had to rewire the arms, replace the RCA PCB, disassemble and clean the pitch’s, and calibrate.
You alone got me through all that, other than finding a clear answer on where the black wire that goes into arm ground. It may be in one of your videos. I just didn’t find it when I needed it. Other than that, you got me from having 2 worthless turntables that seemed to have been in clubs for 30 years, to 2 perfectly working turntables.
Now I just need some 12” skins and I’m all set.😂
Thank you for the comment, it makes it all worth while to know I helped to get your decks working again.
@@DJlegionuk Any time. Now if you can tell me why I have such bad channel bleed on only the headphone fader of this Vestax mixer, I’ll be all set.😂
@@brother000merch dirty or damaged fader ? try some deoxit
Thanks for sharing your experience. Buying up used 1200's whenever I can ..so I'm sure I'll come across some problems.
Thank you for this. This is just what I need. I have a pair of 1210 as well. Pitch is off when in 0 position.
hI DJ LEGION.
I have Gemini PT2400 and wanted to calibrate the pitch as to achieve neutral speed you need to move fader to nearly +2%.Sadly I can not find a pot near main pitch fader.I did clean up pitch fader but no luck.There is a pot on on the motor board, no changes to pitch if you move it.
I may try to solder some pots to fader with different values and see if I can tweak it up.
Awesome, thanks for taking time to explain all this, find it super interesting eventhough I’m not a technician but own one of this wonderful machines. Great job!
Video is properly made and really helped me . Unfortunately I cannot measure and calibrate the frequency . My multimeter can measure frequency but maybe it is not of great quality .
Did you find another way of sorting this? Mine keeps reading 0hz
Thank you soooo much to put this information online. i need that to fix my turntable and i can do it now. the serivce i send my turntables once has no clue at all. he just sold a new pitch to me but didnt calibrate it accurately. so i have to do it by myself now.
Really good tutorial bro but i am facing a problem for a month now that no one can help me.
I own both a 1200 mk2 and a 1210 mk2 for 2 months. Everything was ok till the moment i decided to clean up the faders.
I followed every step of yours with lubricants and contact cleaners. I measured the ohms 2.7 with a multimeter i owned and i put the fader back. I play with traktor timecodes and guess what. When the normal speed to a track was + -1 for example a track that is 122 bpm with timecodes appeared 121,98 or 121,99 at 33rpm something like that which is normal.
Now the speed is not as stable as was. I mean that now goes + - 0,05 and is not so accurate that is was before and when i go to 45 rpm it goes + - 0,15. This happens to both turntables. I tried to measure the frequency i put it to hz measurement but it doesn't count. I changed 2 multimeters with hz option. Nothing! I tried to adjust the VR 301 manually according to the dots but the speed is not stable as it was. I am going crazy really because I spent too much money. Can you help me please? I would appreciate it if i talk directly with you with some way.
I'm new to your channel. You really have an excellent knowledge of these turntables and excellent videos explaining fixes.. Great job!
Great video !! Will this exact method work for Tech 1200 MK3?
Thanks for a video
I got new pitches installed, both new and seems good, +6 stationary on both and 3.75 not 3.3%, happy with that, But around central area is totally mess if i move to negative side it at the beginning moves to positive and then goes down to negative, about 1.5% is opposite when it switches to right side, to make clear, reduce speed moving up fader but instead pitch increase and at the point of 1.5% it does reduce speed! On both new pitches same problem!
Does it makes clear and how do you deal with it?
Thank you. I need to change my pitch fader. Now I know how to calibrate it.
Great video pal
Thank you. Just what i was looking for👍
I put brand new pitch faders in my turntables and calibrated exactly to the service manual standard of the pitch at 2.7K and the frequency at 262.08 (I have a 6 and 1/2 digit multimeter, calibrated). The plus and minus 6 is bang on but 3.3 both ends is off by 1-2 %, any ideas? Great vid, many thanks!
Curtis
P.S both pitches were the proper -2 pitches for this model.
Hi, even though you set the center to 2.7 what are the dots like when you move off center by a small amount ? I do not know any other adjustments it's just the two so perhaps some other passive components is slightly out of spec on the main board. Is it the same on both decks ? if so then it could also be the way the carbon tracks on the new pitch are setup.
Curtis Rivers I got the same results. I gave. Up. They both match. I guess it’s close enough
@@GGarcia7111 just ti answer everybody, ive been servicing these decks for years butits very rare that the pitch matches the grid perfect. Its an all analogue turntable and the only 2 adjustments only allow you to calibrate a few things. I personally always try to match the better around +3.3 and +6 with a calibrated 0, and i then the minus part may vary. I know most djs play at positive pitch anyways!
yvan flodin agreed! Thanks for the input
Great video ! Very helpful.i bought the VC99 and do the same very easily.Thanks a lot.i have one question, in how many days,years can I do the check again ?
when ever you feel it's not working how you want, but unless it's dirty of damaged it should be ok for a long time
How do I know if my pitch can be calibrated or I need a new pitch?
Cause I thinking about to buy this multimeter. Excellent video
unless it has dirty/damaged traces or brushes it can be calibrated. Does it move smoothly and do the dots jump around erratically at any point.
thank you for your time an knowledge 🙏 🙂 aprecited
Fantastic - thank you for uploading this
One thing I just noticed in the service manual for the MK5 is VR302 on the Pitch Fader should be set to 2.875 +/- 0.25 K.ohms. VR301 remains the same. Is this something you do for MK5 models?
Just setted up my vr302 with 2.87 - pitch in the center on my MK5. Thank you.
@@floor12evgenis it the same process? Do you need to take a pitch out? I saw a vid where he just flipped the deck over. I have mk5 also and they need this
@DJlegionuk ive taken the balls out, any tips on best starting points if you have clickless pitches?
I followed the steps in the second half of the video to calibrate the frequency but my multimeter shows -1 or -000,1 kHz. I turned on my Turntable and set the multimeter on frequency mode as you explained it. Anyone knows what to do?
read the manual of your meter :)
Hi...i have the same problem with 2 zero points...i do everything you do...find the 2nd zero point...take the value...return the pitch to zero but when i try to move the vr302 on pitch pcb there Is no value change. It Is stucked at 8.22. What could be the problem? The vr302 50k ohm? The pitch fader? Or the pcb? I measure the pitch in ohm. Thank you
I've just adjusted the resistence but I cannot aìdjust teh Frequency . I've got a lomvum T 28 C . Do I need a better nultimiter ?
My problem is that my 0 point is at 0, but also at +0.5. Does this depend on the inner potentiometer on the pitch board itself? maybe this is not properly calibrated? Thanks for this great video!
it's just not calibrated so will need adjustment of the pitch on the main board then if that changes the +6 adjust the pot on the pitch board too.
THank you so much for this video and the other one you made. I just finished cleaning and calibrating the pitch. It's not a perfect (I get 6% at 6.5) but its damn close. without your videos I would not have the confidence to do this
Yo! Thanks for the stuff, its priceless. But i have a problem thoe 😂 After setting 2.7K i measure those pins and get 0Hz every time. Multimeter is NEW and as the manual says, works between 99.9 Hz - 1000 kHz. Any ideas what could went wrong? Both decks O Hz. Thanks for your replay in advance, big up!
The deck is switched on ?
Be carefull just because the dmm is new dosent mean its Gospel something could have hapend to it during shipping
Hence the crap of proving units dont get me started
Any advance? I am in the same situation, in the two scales of the multimeter it indicates 0Hz in any range of VR301. But in the deck it does act. The problem is that it doesn't react on the multimeter, always value 0. Obviously I have it turned on and pitch at "0" (2'70Ω) and led ON. Sorry for the translation, I'm using Google translate.
i have this same issue, i'm using a Klein MM1000 across TP27 and G but i am not getting any frequency reading, it seems to have a similar range 9.999Hz ˜
999.9kHz resolution 0.001Hz ˜ 0.1kHz
Hi, i just bought a Technics 1200MK3 and it seems needs calibrate the pitch. The 0 position seems ok , the +6 looks like it is moving a bit to the left, the +3.3 and -3.3 is at +2.2 and -2.2. ¿Any tip to recalibrate it? Thanks
Hi Dj legion. First of all, thank you for your tutorial.
The second thing is that I wanted to tell you about a problem I'm having. I'm following every step of your video. When I perform the test by setting the selector to 20k the multimeter shows the value of 4,530. The problem is that even if I turn the VR302 component to one side or the other, the value of the multimeter does not change. Can you tell me why this is happening to me? Thanks in advance.
it's damaged or you are doing something wrong.
I have the same issue, no change when adjusting VR302, perhaps there's a difference with the newer 8 pin fader boards, because I can adjust the VR302 on the older 6 pin fader boards for 2.70 with no problem
Hi. I have the problem with the double zero. With the pitch at zero (and the LED on) it turns perfectly, when i accelerate with the pitch in the Moment that the led turns off instead of going faster, the turntable slows down to return to a new zero on a value of about +2.5. It holds the +6 and +3.3 very well, a little less the -3.3 but it is at acceptable levels.
Searching on the web I found various tutorials to solve my problem, the point is that when I connect the multimeter to the pitch (obviously disconnected from the turntable) I have an X value, and going to modify the VR302 trimmer that value should modify right? To me it remains fixed and constant.
The tests I have carried out are the following:
I have completely replaced the pitch, putting the One of my other turntable, and it works perfectly, so I rule out problems with the motherboard or others stuffs of the turntable.
With the Multimeter attached to the Brown and Red of the pitch (disconnected from the turntable) I tried to move the pitch fader and the value changes (so apparently the fader is good) but with the same configuration by acting on the vr302 the value remains fixed and constant (so apparently the vr302 doesn't work).
At that point I connected the Multimeter to the vr302 and rotating it the value changes, so apparently it is good.
I am also going crazy because if there was something to replace I would not know what specifically, and with the times that are running I do not want to spend more than I should. 😬
Sorry if I wrote a lot but I hope I have explained the problem well and what tests I did.
Have you ever had it where the turntable changes speed up and down ? What’s the best way to fix it? It’s especially bad just above and below the 0 position
like a wobble ? this is going to be dirt on the carbon, in the brushes or the traces are worn out at that point.
Hi legion. I have a question. I recently bought a technics sl 1210 mk5. It is in new condition. However, it needs oiling. Can you recommend any videos how to do this?
unless you mean the center bearing for the platter I am not sure. you just buy some of the correct oil and squish into the top of the bearing and wiggle up and down.
Hi! I know it’s a noob question however it’s not mentioned (or at least I didn’t catch) where you have set the frequency potmetre to when adjusting V301. I have seen previous videos where it’s been set to 20k upon doing it on the pitch itself at the OHM area. Is that correct? Reason I ask because my reader is giving me ridiculous values, 7.805 kinda stuffs... As Im not a technical genious I guess I have done something wrong. Thank you!
just bought new pair of sfdz122n11-2 faders and if i do exactly the same you did in the video, i have two zero points.
i have to calibrate pitch to 2,544 with 262,08hz to have 0 and 6 perfect.
but then my +3,3 is around +2,1 so that area is pretty bad to mix at, because its so sensitive to movements.
on my other deck the pitch is calibrated to 2,566 with 262,08hz.
also +0 and +6 is perfect but +3,3 is around 2,5 there.. also really hard to mix in that area.
how do i make them faders calibrated the same ? one deck is around 1999 other one 2008
I have the same problem I don’t know what to do
This and your other video's are very helpful. After I adjusted the pitch like above (and cleaned and lubed the pitch control from your other video), I still get a +.1/-.1 pitch fluctuation (keeps bouncing between 2 constantly) when I an connected using Serato. Is this normal or could it be something else?
that is not related to the pitch control it's self. It could be noisy signals or even the deck is fluctuating it's speed enough for serato to see, but not enough by looking at the dots on the platter. Wow and Flutter I think. you can get apps that can check for this on your phone.
@@DJlegionuk Many thanks! I talked to an old DJ friend of mine and he believes the little bit of fluctuation will be there regardless-Serato is just that sensitive.
Can you show us how to calibrate a Technics M5G
sorry I don't have one.
I am going to tackle this tomorrow. Just waiting on my multimeter to come in the mail. My turntable dots line up perfectly at +6, +3.3, and 0. However, the -3.3 dots seem to line up at -2.5. Am I being too anal here?
just a little bit. !!! haha
@@DJlegionuk Did the multimeter test. I was told faders are not linear since the equipment is analog. I tried.
I have the same problem my -3.3 is @ -2.7! 0, +3.3, +6 are fine. I've tried to fix but I think this is as good as I can get it.
@@aa-jn3ks It is fine. Analogue pitches are difficult to be "perfect". Many factors can contribute. What you want is for those middle dots to move smoothly forwards ...then stopping.... then backwards with smooth movement of the fader. If you want perfect pitches, you have to go MK7s and up... which are digital.
What is the BLACK cable attached by a crocodile clip to the external pitch fader? Is it a ground lead connected to the chassis of the turntable?
yes it's just to extend the leads so I can use the pitch outside.
@@DJlegionuk Thank you very much. And you tell us exactly which setting you have set your multimeter dial to please.
Thanks man!
Hi, on one of my pitches, the range of resistance only goes as high as 2.22. Do I need to replace the variable resistor?
On my second pitch, I adjusted to 2.7 but it then steadily drops by 0.01. I went for a smoke, came back and the resistance had dropped to like 2.648 or something. Any ideas if they can be fixed? Tried cleaning both pitches with contact cleaner.
what do you mean it only went to 2.22 ? the pitch are 0 - 20k so only going to 2.2 would be very bad. Have you cleaned the adjuster on the pitch as well ? that can change the readings as much as the pitch so give that a full turns all the way to the min and max and if you have deoxit a spray, perhaps that will help. have you taken the pitch apart and looked at the carbon tracks ? no amount of cleaning will work if the carbon it just worn out around the centre point.
If i want to calibrate SL1200 MK3D when set pitch to center, Do i have to press button?
no, that bypasses the pitch you want to match the center of the pitch without the button pressed to be the same as when it is pressed.
Nice ty.
Hola tengo un problema he cambiado el trimmer de ajustes del pitch y he puesto otro y no me calibra, que podría hacer????
Has comprado lo mismo?Has visto si resistancia es igual?
Thank you sir !
Hello, turntable has to be off or on? Thanks
Ok, I just finished calibrating my 2 Technics 1200 mk2 from 1996 That I bought when I was younger, was my first pair brand new and only thing replaced was pitch on both units ten years ago, did not know how to calibrate them right until last week when I saw your video.
Thanks so much for your help!!!!
My center click green light is dimmer than the reset button green light...any clues as to what could be causing it ?
the led is getting old or the carbon traces on the pitch are starting to rub away so the led is not getting enough volts.
@@DJlegionuk it’s a fairly new pitch so wouldn’t expect the traces to be wearing already but I guess it’s not impossible,if the led is on it’s way out I’d expect it to be dim on the reset button too ? I guess I’ll just have to open it and have a look..thanks for replying 👍
@@clivehenry5750 the led goes through the carbon on the pcb when it's on so it must be giving more resistance than when the pitch lock switch is on.
Got a new astroAi dt132a, frequency meter just shows 0 hz... I have lead clips on right and the turn table turned on... tried on 2 turntables, any advice? Meter worked fine on adjusting pitch fader resistance
Probably to do with the range of your meter.
Do you find this much more difficult to do on the M3D and higher models? Mostly because the center click is disengaged since you have the pitch reset button. How would you go about with doing that?
It's just the same but the center click is a button. I have not tried on the ones with digital pitch.
@@DJlegionuk oh okay! I followed your tips tried to align the zero marker on the pitch as close as I can. So far so good, both of my decks are pretty spot on.
@@BryantFC its important that yoou place your fader at the center! reset button works different
@@yvanflodin exactly.
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Hey DJ legion please help me out.
I did exactly the same like you, got the VR302 on 262.1 Hz
And beforehand I got the pitch fader on the zero position at 2.75 Om
Still the pitch is slightly incorret when I check the dots on the platter.
I didn't disasamble nor clean the pitch fader it self beforehand which I will do this week. Do you think it will have an impact on the fader's accuracy?
What else could cause an incorrect pitch control? There is no 2nd zero point nor something else wrong.
It is just a little bit out of range and this tutorial doesn't fix it....
HI, so is it ok at the +6%, but not at the 3.3% ? when you move it off the center click do the dots change smooth or is there a small jump. I think the 2.75 value is the problem and I would try 2.9k and then change the frequency until the 6% is correct again. If the resistance of the pitch is wrong because it's worn out or is dirty using the 2.7K value will not work. So try 2.9K and re-adjust the frequency if this does not work just keep tweaking until you get it as close as possible.
@@DJlegionuk
Hello there,
That sounds reasonable. I will try that.
I can get all of the plus values to be accurate but especially the minus 3.3% not!
The dots showing me minus 3.3% when the actual fader is only at minus 2.5%...
I reached Plus 6% and plus 3.3% accurately to be clear.
The jump of the dots when I move the fader off the center is quite smooth I'd say. Not very abprubt.
I ve got one more safety question. Does it damage the motherboard or something else of the turntable when I would adjust VR302 while the turntable is switched onn?
Did that accidently several times x)
@UC-dYJy1QTgHD6C-Qw5_rEOw this normally means the value of the 2.7K is too small.
@@DJlegionuk Can you please provide the links of both the multimeter, and all of the probe cables that you're using? That would be helpful because, as I'm watching your tutorial, I'm seeing that you're using about four probe cables. So where are the green ground and red positive probe cables connect from as well? I'm a bit confused, so if you can clarify where all of your probe cables are connecting from, that would be greatly appreciated as well.
@@crazycuts6891 they are just leads with clips on the end of the probes so I do not have to hold it in place.
Hello,
could you give me the models or references of your two wire strippers?
How to made on m5g ???
same stuff but with the deck at 8%
My pitches was fucked I didn’t no anyone who could fix them so I took my technics apart and now I don’t have decks anymore I just have parts in a basket 🥀
Great___^
jump from 0 to closest minus position is too big
do you mean when it moves of the centre click to a negative pitch ?
@@DJlegionuk yes, you have to fix the second zero point aswell. I just did the calibration on both my decks.
I first did step one with HZ and plugged in deck.
then unplugged calibration of pitch.
but third step was when i plugged it back in, it had 2 zero points. so i just fixed that and both are perfect at +3,3 -3,3 +6 :)
@@SWAREDNB I am starting to wonder if they changed these settings on some mk2 models. On most of the recent decks I have checked 2.7k on the centre click and 262.08 does not work and is way off at +6%. I found they have around 2.9k and 261.08 and this is a lot better on the pitch range. I still prefer setting this up without the frequency counter and just adjusting both until I get it perfect, it takes a little longer, but seams to work a lot better.
@@DJlegionuk i think it's the pitch fader cause i feel when i use them, one of the pitch faders is a bit harder when it moves but seems a little more precise cause you feel every move.
so, maybe there are two versions of mk2 pitch faders and maybe you don't know and have one from mk5 or so in your deck
@@DJlegionuk th-cam.com/video/m_rr01ssq8o/w-d-xo.html
SO!!!!!! lol i said SO quite a lot in this.
Does this calibration technique work on the clickless pitch faders as well?
DJ Crazy Cuts It has to work. Just make sure when calibrating you aro at 0.
Hi...i have the same problem with 2 zero points...i do everything you do...find the 2nd zero point...take the value...return the pitch to zero but when i try to move the vr302 on pitch pcb there Is no value change. It Is stucked at 8.22. What could be the problem? The vr302 50k ohm? The pitch fader? Or the pcb? Thank you