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- Benjamin Trail NP break barrel pistol Nitro Piston by Crosman bought @ www.ppschietspo...
Nitro Piston, .177 cal, rifled steel barrel, tactical synthetic frame, fiber optic front sight, adjustable rear sight, includes a cocking aid
quote from the review section on this pistol's product page on crosman.com:
Good pistol/ Don't rush to judgement
By Will
2014-01-25 17:16:31
Kudos to Crosman for making the jump to fitting a nitro piston to a small profile operating system. Before purchasing I read several reviews most of which contained some negativity to one or more aspect of this pistol but I was intrigued by the innovation of a nitro piston in a small airgun platform.and ordered one. My background in the Military and Law Enforcement over the years enabled me to fire just about every shoulder and hand held weapon made and most took some time to identify strong and weak points. With that in mind I performed a detailed break in and self testing of the BBP77. First I went over the pistol and found the screws attaching the receiver to the stock were all loose which was fixed easily with a drop of loc-tite blue on not more than two threads and re-tighten. Based on reviews before the first shot was fired I thoroughly cleaned the barrel which took half an hour to reach my standard of a clean bore. Then I removed the rear sight and was pleasantly surprised that Benjamin had the foresight to mount these in the scope grooves milled in the receiver giving me some options of placement of a red dot optic that has a 3 MOA dot. (The primary use for this pistol is rat hunting in my chicken barn so all my air handguns get a red dot for humane shooting)
Although Benjamin states that normal breaking is around 250 shots I elected to shoot 500 for a thorough eval. Ammunition used throughout the eval. was Crosman single die premium wad cutters at a range of 10 meters. All shooting was done from a sandbag bench rest for control purposes. It took about 20 shots to achieve an acceptable POA to POI . Once done I began break in and evaluation. First noted was heavy and long trigger pull resulting in numerous flyers. At about 50 shots I began to notice the trigger smoothing somewhat and right before discharge there began to develop an over center sensation on my trigger finger. After feeling this sensation the pistol consistently discharged with another 1/4 inch of pull which I was able to measure at 2 pounds vs. initial starting trigger pull at 6.75 lbs. I think we have a two stage trigger here. The more I shot it the more familiar I taught myself to use this over center sensation to my advantage and the flyers immediately ceased. The more I shot the pistol the smoother the trigger felt which I believe was result and of moving parts of the trigger mechanism wearing in.
By shot # 75 I began to notice grouping tightening up to about one inch. By shot # 100 I noticed cocking becoming easier. Based on reviews I opted not to utilize the cocking assist but found that without it the.front sight was a little painful on my palm while cocking. The solution was simple. Grab a cleaning rag out of my kit and cover the front sight with it while cocking. No more discomfort. Using the cleaning rag to aid cocking is an insignificant inconvenience and one of these can be kept in the pistol carrying case.
Between shots 75 and 250 all that happened was the pistol demonstrating a visible and palpable response to break in. Shot groups tightened down to about the size of a dime, cocking became easier and my familiarity with the heavy initial trigger pull transitioning the over center sensation became better.
I continued on until a full 500 shots were discharged during which time I carefully adjusted the optic until I was shooting groups measuring about 1/4 inch from 10 meters.
In summary, don't believe everything you read about this pistol. Yes it's heavy, Yes it's big and yes it has a heavy and long initial trigger pull than Benjamin should deal with for their customers. Don't expect immediate out of the box wonder weapon status but give it a thorough bore cleaning, properly break the pistol in and find that over center spot on the trigger pull and you will have an enjoyable virtually silent, recoilless and accurate pistol ( provided you put decent optics on it) that should give you loads of shooting pleasure.
Is it perfect? No. Can you learn it's idiosyncrasies and have some fun? Absolutely.
Sorry for the long winded post but I believed the pistol was one in which new ground was broken (nitro piston in a pistol) and it deserved a fair unbiased evaluation.
Benjamin, if you read these posts there and two things you could to to improve this pistol: 1) refine that trigger. 6.75 pounds is way too much for a .177 cal anything ; 2) develop and market this shooting platform in a .22 caliber version. I would purchase one in a heartbeat.
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Cheers much appreciated. I like to innovate this pistol is now spot on. I'll do a vid on accuracy next week and it sure is accurate
Great vid. I have just bought one of this after watching this vid. 😀
Backyard plinking did a comparison between the NP and the 1377. Bought a 1377 and a 1322. Modifying the 1322 .
Great review & good consistent little pistol. I would like to see you hold the barrel with your left hand while you're pushing the pellet in with your finger, just in case of trigger failure.
Thank you for posting.
Beautiful
Leuk revieuw!! Denk dat voor jouw doeleinden de Hatsan 25 supercharger ook een erg leuke is in .22 dan. Voor een pistool erg veel kracht. En op 30 meter staand, met twee handen, met een beetje oefening een leeg 250ml blikje te raken. Van dichtbij door een leeg soepblik heen(voor in achter uit).
Hey kerel,.
Mooi ding! Waar heb je hem gekocht? En voor hoeveel?
Gr
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Deze heb ik ook net opgepikt. Supertof dingetje
Love the steel drum music at the end lol!.. but seriously.. is this pistol any good?,was thinking of getting one for pistol hft! But the group you shot was a little bit putting off.. do you think the group would close up with a different brand of pellet?
silverbackdp No don't think so. Have you ever shot a recoiling pistol before? This price range tight groups are tough.
***** i have a hw45 which has some recoil.. but am not consistant with it.. but it is accurate and i can shoot tight groups with it on my day when am in a good rythem! I just assumed the nitro piston would be better all round with slightly less recoil then a springer.. currently i shoot a hw75 a hw40 and a hw45.. iv also have the airforce one trophy.. the hw75 is what i normally use for hft as it has virtually no recoil and has a sweet trigger.. on our hft course its open sights only.. the 75 is my best pistol to use but just lacks a little bit in power for some of the longer shots.. the airforce one is good for power and long shots but has a bad trigger.. so i was looking for somthing with power but just a sweet to shoot out at longer ranges.. max range we shoot is 15 meters.. and its all open sights only at our club.. is there any pistol you can suggest.? Am left handed.. so would like somthing that has a ambi grip.. a decent trigger and has knock down power out to 15 meters.. the nitro piston gun looked perfect until i seen your group.. but if there is somthing you can suggest which will fit my requirments id be much obliged!
Problem is this pistol has been configurated to shoot fast so it does recoil a bit and the trigger is not a match trigger. I think of it more as a cheap and cheerfull beercan plinker. It will never outshoot a hw45...
The second stage of the trigger is only a quarter mile long.
You mention in your remarks that your distance "throughout the eval." was 10 meters, yet the video shows only shots taken at 5 yds. You also mention using a red dot sight, yet the video shows only open sights on the pistol. Just an observation...
+Rene Lagunas you are refering to a quote Rene, pls re-read
Why is my Benjamin Trail making a big noise, and not yours?
I'm sure I have a spring inside, not a nitro piston.
Either the camera did not pick up the loud noise, or your's has a broken spring. Has it been dry-fired?
trigger pull is lacking ! any mods that will help ! please
Mine looses some air from the break barrel sealment during fire. I did a test where I put a piece of cloth over the point where the barrel breaks and when I fire the gun, a small amount of air escapes upwards and blows the cloth. It's only a little but is it normal?
Try locating a thicker and harder duro o ring
@@Being_JaredMichael thanks. I actually did that back then, and it's fine since.
how would the cocking aid cause the pistol to shoot low?
turbulency / un-even airflow
Just drill three holes on each side you'll be fine
I bought one, right out of the box it wouldn't fire, it made a woosh sound and something rattled inside and that was it, the pellet never left the chamber, really disappointed I have seen some good reviews about this model.
Hi Peter did you have it replaced?
Unfortunately no I haven't as of yet, I live in a small town and there aren't any shops near me that specialize in airguns.
Have a 2240
precio de la pistola
see description of video
Eeww the fps jumps too much up and down by ten or more fps not my cup of coffee
U must be a special person because I didnt ask a question ten up and ten down is 20 fps difference and when u are limited by 495 fps I would like it to be shooting true every shot go look dumb on another blog
Go start some shit and rub one off hater I was saying its not for me I would rather a full break barrel rifle PS this isn't a question so don't reply
paintslinger2009 case closed guys, onto the next vid please
poor accuracy. tried all types,weights,and composition pellets. nothing helped. i was tricked by the great reviews. cant recommend it.
Wait wait wait... Made in China... Push to Safe? I'm embarrassed for Benjamin.
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