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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 29 ก.ย. 2024
- I really feel like I played close to peak throughout, which is a rare thing to be able to say. Therefore I am very happy with the quality of this run!
Because I believe this run may stand for at least a little while now, I'll go a bit more in depth in the description.
The route has been building to this for some time. If you're curious I will explain my current understanding of the routes and respective credit to those who first did it:
Many thanks to:
Jhawk
WinstonPHz
CCCharge
Ice Cube
Telethia
Kumakyuu
LonTr0
The whole pikmin community if I didn't mention you here
Overall route:
-Ice cube was the first verified 4 day, with his route being the basis for RTA runs.
SST:
-Jhawk for the overall route
-Winston for a faster yellow growth, plan to get the bomb
-Me growing 20+ yellow throughout the day with only 3 total
-Me and CCCharge collecting the bomb after letting the pikmin die
-Kumakyuu for the idea to get libra before the bridge is complete, keeping more pikmin for NB later
-Me speeding up the materials to 3r near the bag while still collecting everything else, allowing for more pikmin on the bridge
-Me to save the idle pikmin at the bomb hole which loses 4s ingame time but saves 4s of menuing later, and allows it to be useful
BA:
-Ice cube for the initial route idea
-Me to reorder the midgame so that Moss brings the pikmin to olimar
-Winston and CCCharge to bomb BLL for more likely spicies
-Winston for suggesting not waiting for Omega stabiliser
-Me to destroy the yellow gate first, freeing up those pikmin for the whole rest of the day, especially blue onion area
SS:
-Ice cube, not much has changed since the early days, we've just gotten faster
-I decided not to use a trackonator on the crawmad anymore, saving it for HH to guarantee fast bloyster which was killing some runs
-Me for the jump up to the clamp from the water
-Telethia and I for rerouting the top of the sandcastle, Jhawk for cleaning it up
-Jhawk for skipping the clay pot spray, me for cleaning up that movement with a dash
HH
-Jhawk for a few speedups of Ice's route such as the go here after the gear and the upstairs order of things, me for spicy on the gildemander instead of later to flower all your pikmin
-Lily for suggesting to bomb the bloyster if we had a spare bomb, prompting me to reroute crawmad
-Me for the initial stunt route
-CCCharge for changing the stunt location to one where a spicy is less required
-Winston for finding a setup that makes the stunt easier
-Me for figuring out a consistent camera angle setup that allows you to know if the stunt will work or not
-Me for optional inclusion of spray to dig the tunnel faster, if you have it
-Me to risk not killing the snootwhacker above the sink
-It's faster to let moss just swallow the Chronos reactor by the way, I just messed up
My biggest timeloss was in BA when the chrysanthemum ate the yellows. This just happens sometimes, it's a roll of the dice but usually it's fine. I recovered OK. Then I suppose I wish I got the stunt up to the bolt sooner, in practice I've sometimes nearly beaten the gear back to the ship, so that's all timeloss of ~10s. If I had an extra spicy I would have sped up the HH tunnel dig. I lost a bit of time to failing to kill the mama sheargrub in SST. All this is around 20s lost but really due to execution in the rest of the run I can't complain too much.
Remaining timesave would be from more spicies, one would save 5-10s in HH digging the tunnel, another would save time on the walk up to Bulblax, another would let you skip the spicy spectralid, if you got 5 spicies I have no idea where you would use the next one. Maybe on the crawmad fight or MAL or something?
/ mokaygee
Using disband as a psuedo war horn charge on the first day was so crazy. Never would have thought to try that!
I've never done any speedrunning before, but using this as a guide I just did a one-day Sun-Speckled Terrace! Thank you! And great job on WR!
Wow! What a huge chunk off the record. GG. I love that the strats change at least a little every time I see a new record - always new dandori.
Major Improvement! Congrats man.
holy shit people are tearing this gamemode apart
The way it came together at the end was so amazing
Great job on the speedrun! Blows my mind how creative the runs become each time.
I have a question.
I see this mechanic people abuse and I don't really understand it. When enemies are off camera, are they unloaded? I saw this mechanic also used in the first pikmin, but I wasnt sure if 2 or 3 had this too. Any information on this would be appreciated.
It's mainly used in 1 and 2. In those instances enemies are loaded on camera or when pikmin are nearby. In this, enemies are unloaded when very far away. I don't think off camera-ing does anything. You can see this when you charge at the whiptongue bulborb in SS. It doesn't get used much in p4 but doesn't matter anyway since almost all enemies are inert.
@@Mokaygee Thank you for informing me, its appreciated. 2:12 was the reason why I asked. Whenever I speedrun myself, the big sheargrub or misc. enemies furtherdown the run, are a threat and I always find myself needing to deal with them first, leading in loss of time.
That grub can't attack them while they're digging the onion because they're beyond the edge of its threat range. The other grub is the worst enemy because it roams rather than digs
Insane speed running. Congrats on the new record!
How do you get infinite rush moss?
I see it being used in a lot of runs, but I just don't know how to get that ability.
Is it collecting all 7 parts in SST in one day or is it tied to Oatchi's infinite rush?
You must have Oatchi with infinite rush by curing and recusing all of the castaways.
there's a few upgrades in the main story that once you get come by default in olimar's shipwreck tale. Infinite charge is one of them. I realized it because on my second playthrough I hadn't bought the idle counter and it wasnt there in shipwreck tale like it is in this speedrun.
almost another "olimar beatboxes" moment at 1:25
and at 3:19
unreal
Is charging between the crawmad's eyes slower than throwing? I found it knocks them out pretty quick.
This is amazing, congrats on the record!
What does the white button in Hero's Hideaway even do? I don't find the white gate on the map later in the run
I lowers that wall right before it
is there a second freeze bomb that's not too far out of the way? Was thinking that might be a good way to speed up the gildemander in HH by a good deal
No, and you need 3 to freeze it. If it took 1, then yes it would be faster to use the single freeze on that and not in SS
@@Mokaygee but it... does need 1? It just needs to eat it, and it can eat out of your hands like a bomb
just checked in the piklopedia, gildemander freezes immediately upon eating a single freeze bomb.
I think a route change is imminent
@@pennycarty7794 good suggestion, I wasn't aware eating it made a difference. I will try it and test viability
@@pennycarty7794 Tested it in HH, it's not frozen long enough to kill it even with spicy. Unfortunately it just doesn't work. Really cool idea but there you go.
good dandori, gg!