I have had one wood stove pipe fire; I am good on that experience for the rest of my life. My neighbor laughed saying I had the most beautiful sparkies flying out of stove pipe....
Hey guys, I live in CT and we are blessed with some of the best hardwoods to heat our homes with and I've been running a wood stove since the late 70's. All what he has said here is correct, pine for kindling is excellent but I would not recommend it as a main fuel source. One thing I will say is that if you can get them, white pine cones are by far one of the best things to use to start a fire bar none. We have had a bumper crop of pinecones this year, I have at least 2 garbage cans full of them in my barn and they are the best for starting fires. Just be sure to get them when fully opened and dry.
Colorado Rockies here, 8,000 or so elevation. I burn lodgepole and ponderosa pine because that’s pretty much all we’ve got. The only hardwoods are from tree service guys and it’s often suboptimal. I agree about the quick hot fire and it seems to me that would minimize creosote. Our annual cleanings are pretty normal. At high elevations, there is less oxygen anyway so the resinous wood helps. The one drawback is that the stove can be cold by morning, no 10 hour coal bed. For anyone burning pine, I recommend big splits, as big as your stove can take, they last longer.
I never had a problem burning pine! My dad said one time in are damper sparks started coming out from pine... That's why Dad never burned pine... But I don't know if the wood was damp or if it just sparks a lot... But I don't mind pine. I do like listening to it crackle
I thoroughly clean my chimney at the end of the season. Plus I check it and clean as needed at least twice during the season but mostly it really is clean. Always walk on the side of caution. I generally find it therapeutic to clean my chimney. GOD IS GOOD ALL OF THE TIME !
I love the quick heat that pine wood produces,but if you don't stay on top of feeding your stove, you have to rebuild your fire .That's because pine doesn't leave coals.Thanks for all the good advice.
I live in NE Wyoming and we burn lodgepole pine, ponderosa pine, Doug fir and cedar because the hardwood trees don’t grow out here. You are exactly right about use only well seasoned firewood in your wood stove, fireplace or furnace because a chimney fire is a very scary thing to happen.
Upstate NY here. Life long wood burner. We would burn just about everything. Always seasoned. One of the old stoves we had was a Vermont castings. That thing didn’t burn clean. We would have to clean twice a season. Great video.
Great talk on green wood and burning your wood efficiently. The worst sound for me, is hearing the wood hiss! We log on our property and let it dry in four foot lengths. I am picky about what I burn in the kitchen wood stove. The basement stove is airtight. Both have metal bestos chimneys . We usually burn seasoned oak, maple, ash. I love using pinecones for fire starters, but this year there few out there this year. Our chimneys were clean this go round.
One reason to burn pine is if you have pine available on your property. It’s definitely great kindling nice to watch burn. Pine probably seasons faster then oak also. It’s nice to have 2-3 year old split and stacked wood.
And that’s exactly what I mean. In Ohio they look at you like you are stupid if you say “I burn pine”. They don’t know that it’s all some people have. We are lucky here to have so much hardwood.
Pine burns fast. Pine burns very hot, comparatively. Pine, if dry, is fine to burn. Pine is all over my property. It's cheap/free (I know it costs money and time to process firewood). It's very simple... Keep an eye on your chimney. Clean it before the start of the season, and get up there and look at it about once per month. Burning a "creosote removal log", or equivalent, every six weeks or so is also a decent idea. Don't forget to empty out the chimney at the cleanout, the little door at the very bottom of the chimney. People sometimes leave the chimney sweepings in there, where they pile up and can start a slow burn chimney fire, which can go on for a day or two, before you're aware of it. I will burn VERY hot, and has the ability to catch the house framing, which surrounds the chimney, on fire. That's inside the walls stuff... Very scary. In my twenty years of burning wood, I have not had to do a mid-winter chimney cleaning. I've lived in North Dakota and New England during those years; very cold winters. Dry wood, clean chimney, and regular inspection of the chimney will keep you in good shape. I doesn't matter what wood you burn... It's when and how you burn it that matters.
I agree. I’ve heated with wood for 30+ years. Had some close calls a few times. Once coming in cold and exhausted I opened the bottom door to get things rolling and went in the other room and sit on the couch and fell asleep. Wow. The sweat running in my ears woke me up. The stove and pipe was cherry red clear to the ceiling. I got the air shut off and got outside to cool 😊
I burn eastern white pine all the time . During shoulder season it may be all I burn. Short burn fires just enough to warm the house back up. Chimney stays nice and clean with well seasoned wood.
Yes. But dry! Crazy how some people say this, what do they think people burn in areas with only softwood/conifer species. Green hardwood produces more creosote than green pine, there is a Georgia Forestry Commission paper from the 70s on it. This is why you dry your hardwood..three years for oak (cut split and stacked) to get that moisture content down.
Yep another locust lover!! Persimmon and dogwood are some other high BTU woods I have burned. I'm with you, I'm not scared or won't burn pine, I do but I don't go through the effort to cut and split and stacked pine because it takes just about as much effort to cut and split pine as it does HW and I get 2-3x the BTUs out of the hardwood.
As a Firefighter (30years) with a FireMarshall degree, I can testify with countless chimney fires , mainly due to 2 main reasons, 1: undried wood as referred to green wood, 2: peoples lacking knowledge on how to run a fireplace, meaning that a fire must burn to a certain heat temp. in order to consumate all the energy contained in the smoke, to prevent unconsumed gasses to stick to chimney walls , tickening to a solid coat ready to ignite and cause chimney fire . Pine is a soft wood containing much more fuel than maple ,thus making it prone to deliver these unburn fuels. Soft woods should be avoided . Hard wood is best but also more expensive. Jerry, you being a chimney sweeper sure knows about all this .and your life experience can help your customers really understand the whys and hows on this. Fully appreciate your input, Cheers fr. Mtl, Can.
@@dpresley9799 going to assume it's Montréal Canada. Burning seasoned soft wood is not an issue. Been doing it for 20 years now, never had to clean my chimney. Except one year we did burn some "wet pine" it sucked, didn't create much heat at all.. When I did clean the chimney the following summer I ended up with a pile of black carbon like flakes... they were great for starting the next fire!
I bet some chimney fires would have been avoided if the chimney had been swept. Also many places in the world don’t have hardwood to burn. There is nothing wrong with pine for firewood especially if it’s all you have. Pine is no more a creator of creosote than any other wood. Soft woods should not be avoided because they burn and create heat. Fire marshal is wrong but he doesn’t know it.
@@joeblow8893 yes for Montreal, and, the thick carbon layer you are referring is exactly the cause for chimney fire, every time you use the damper on the stove in order to not burn the wood too quickly, is the main cause for chimney creosote build-up.
I agree some. The problem is that dampers like I have on the potbelly should not even be installed on an airtight stove. They are meant for these old not airtight stoves. Believe it of not chimney fires didn’t happen all that much until the invention of the airtight stove. The potbelly with damper doesn’t get soot in it because it burns hot enough with or without the damper open. Either way the name of the game in stay warm and safe
We live in Colorado, and other than the occasional Aspen we may find to cut, 90% of what we, and others, have burned for decades is pine, Lodge Pole and some Ponderosa. With hundred's of thousands of acres of beetle kill across the state, pine is everywhere and dry standing. Even when cut green and split, our high altitude summers and falls have humidity in the low teens to single digits, and when covered from the snow and on clear, dry winter days, even then the humidity can be 12-15%. After all these years of burning pine, I have only needed to sweep the stove pipes once, but we also burn our stoves hot. Three decades ago, I lived in the mid-South states, and there, we only burned oak, very dry oak. After 10 years of burning our large wood stove and preparing to sell our home and move to Colorado, I removed the chimney cover and peered into a very clean chimney. While burning a stove hot may not be everyone's desire, it has helped to keep our pipes and chimney very clean.
I usually burn hard woods but I have two pine trees I just cut in my back yard and will be using them along with the hard wood to keep my house warm in the winter. MY wood stove is an insert in my fireplace. that recirculates the smoke several times and has what looks like burners on top inside when it is really burring everything., a 6" double walled stainless steel chiming liner with ceramic in between the two layers . My neighbor keeps asking why I am not using my wood stove, because he can't see any smoke coming out of the chimney.
I bet that just split log is way higher than 30%. Nice to see someone else get it though! I like to hit that 15% number. Hard here in the south to get close to that 10% number just from the moist environment. But burned some up there just under 20%
in many areas pine and juniper may be the only options. We use pine to start our fires and maybe take the chill out of the air in the mornings. Fires we want to last the night and keep a steady warmth we throw a couple big logs of juniper that will last the night.
I find by throwing a soda or beer can into the wood stove helps alot with creosote. I have a guy that comes out once a year and tells me that my chimney looks great, and I told him that I throw cans in once in awile, and he said that is working.
Can you save the creosote and make the liquid wood preservative stuff we used to be able to buy for preserving wooden posts and fences? Never thought about making it but I’d love to have some for my split rail zigzag fences. Thanks
I’ve been heating solely with wood for the past 15 years. I’m in upstate new York, so we are very lucky with the quality hardwood available here. That said, I dropped a big white pine on my property a few years ago and i didn’t want to leave it to rot. I bucked it and split it and the next year burned it. It burned hot and fast and no coals left in the morning. But I did not notice any difference when I cleaned my chimney. I would burn pine again only only if i had too. I feel it was a waste of time to cut, split and stack it when I could burn something better.
I like to run a hot fire at least one a day and keep a slower fire the rest of the day. I used to clean my chimney every year but let that extend to two or three years and i havent seen anything horrendous.
I have a lifetime supply of Pinyon outside my door. I wait until the trees die from carpenter ants or beetles and then cut them into rounds or split and let them dry at least a year. Some of these trees can be very large and probably several hundred years old. When you split them the wood can very hard and very brittle because it has so much sap. They can also be very heavy and dense. I try not burn exclusively all pinyon but I will put one in before I go to bed and tamp the oxygen down and they will burn all night but, they also leave a lot of creosote. Fortunately I can clean the pipe easily but I do often worry that I am not doing it enough at two times a year. Everything said in the video goes along with my experience burning pinyon for 20 yrs.
I just installed a high efficiency fireplace this summer and people have warned me about burning pine in it. Fireplace dealer says it's fine. I've got a bunch of pine trees I need to cut down in the back. I'm gonna season them 2 summers under a wood shed and burn em. Videos like these are a good reminder that proper seasoning and burning hot are key to avoiding creosote. Thanks for getting the info out there
Pine and cedar will burn wet which is where the idea pine causes creosote build-up. Wood doesn't begin to dry out until it's been split. Hardwood won't burn unless it's dry. Burning pine takes closer draft management than hardwood but works fine if you are careful. Even an almost clogged stove pipe won't have a chimney fire without a hot fire being built. I have been called out because a new wood stove user complained that their stove started smoking when they opened the door. Almost always they were using wood from down trees as soon as it was cut and split. A check of the pipe invariably showed a tremendous build-up of creosote. After cleaning the chimney and building a fire with dry wood an explanation of the causes and a shovel full of the clean-out debris in the stove demonstrates how flammable the deposits are.
All my neighbors here in the ozarks burn the wood they cut that winter...I dont understand it..Im 2 years ahead stacked off the ground, and covered with sheet metal over the tops
I have plenty of ash, elm and oaks....but i also have about 2 face cords of pine split in 1 1/2 thick pieces for fast drying...been stacked and covered since late feb. should be fine come this winter
I do this in a camping stove. Not sure how it will work in a real stove. Make a burn pit. Only take the embers into the stove. Less smoke and processing of wood. You are going to burn a lot of wood!!!! Hope that helps.
Hi Jerry, I’m from Europe and i keep hearing the term cord of firewood but here where we use cubic meters to measure amount of firewood the term “cord” is lost on me. So generally when stacked neatly how much volume does a cord of wood actually take up?
Maybe if stove pipe manufacturers put teflon inside the pipe the creosote would just fall back into the stove eliminating any buildup and chimney fires.?? Burning wood is kinda like driving a car....just because you can do it doesn't mean you know how. Absolutely nothing replaces experience.
@@logcabinlifestyle 350c at the top? I took a look at the wikipedia article. is that the right temp? pyrolysis. Also could one design a pipe cap that could obviate the problem of a flu fire?
what would u Consider popular fire wood to be for Moisture most of my popular fire wood is 20 $and blow there no sound of hissing when u start with it and no walter Bubbling out of the ends when u burn it i make sure it 20%and under to burn is that ok
Yes, 13-20% for the moisture is good. I would say the poplar wood is much like pine minus the sap that pine has. So the closer to 13% the hotter and faster it will burn.
@lisbonsjohnnyappleseed good to know thanks u very much I not a fan of pine too never have bean but if I get it I burn it but I sooner tack poplar over pine I fine it burns longer then pine for me in my epa stoves
You are right. I burn mostly hard wood. Oak, maple, Hickory, chestnut, but we have loads of it here in Ohio. I mostly just use pine for a hot quick fire. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving
Your right. That was the point of the video. I do the same thing. But if you talk to most people they will say that creosote is only in pine wood. This is not true
wait. why was it a problem to burn pine? because people who use pine are too simple to use hardwoods, and therefore they also have wet wood? or because the wood burns up quick and then people neglect the fire and let it cool? I dont understand. my understanding is that the unpyrlolised wood sticks to the walls and ignites.
Osage is the best for firewood, in a stove, as long as it's dry. It doesn't begin to dry until it is split, like all woods. Not so much for fireplace because of the popping pieces off as it burns.
Not true! Do your own research, not just what you have been told. I’m a chimney sweep and have done chimneys all of my life! Creosote doesn’t come from pine but from water!
I have had one wood stove pipe fire; I am good on that experience for the rest of my life. My neighbor laughed saying I had the most beautiful sparkies flying out of stove pipe....
Hey guys, I live in CT and we are blessed with some of the best hardwoods to heat our homes with and I've been running a wood stove since the late 70's. All what he has said here is correct, pine for kindling is excellent but I would not recommend it as a main fuel source. One thing I will say is that if you can get them, white pine cones are by far one of the best things to use to start a fire bar none. We have had a bumper crop of pinecones this year, I have at least 2 garbage cans full of them in my barn and they are the best for starting fires. Just be sure to get them when fully opened and dry.
Colorado Rockies here, 8,000 or so elevation. I burn lodgepole and ponderosa pine because that’s pretty much all we’ve got. The only hardwoods are from tree service guys and it’s often suboptimal. I agree about the quick hot fire and it seems to me that would minimize creosote. Our annual cleanings are pretty normal. At high elevations, there is less oxygen anyway so the resinous wood helps. The one drawback is that the stove can be cold by morning, no 10 hour coal bed. For anyone burning pine, I recommend big splits, as big as your stove can take, they last longer.
I never had a problem burning pine! My dad said one time in are damper sparks started coming out from pine... That's why Dad never burned pine... But I don't know if the wood was damp or if it just sparks a lot... But I don't mind pine. I do like listening to it crackle
And we're from northern Pennsylvania
I thoroughly clean my chimney at the end of the season. Plus I check it and clean as needed at least twice during the season but mostly it really is clean. Always walk on the side of caution. I generally find it therapeutic to clean my chimney. GOD IS GOOD ALL OF THE TIME !
I love the quick heat that pine wood produces,but if you don't stay on top of feeding your stove, you have to rebuild your fire .That's because pine doesn't leave coals.Thanks for all the good advice.
I live in NE Wyoming and we burn lodgepole pine, ponderosa pine, Doug fir and cedar because the hardwood trees don’t grow out here. You are exactly right about use only well seasoned firewood in your wood stove, fireplace or furnace because a chimney fire is a very scary thing to happen.
Have seen many houses burn down severly due to chimney fire
Nice two hand crosscut saw behind you there. Have great memories using my granddads which looked just like that one.
Upstate NY here. Life long wood burner. We would burn just about everything. Always seasoned. One of the old stoves we had was a Vermont castings. That thing didn’t burn clean. We would have to clean twice a season. Great video.
Great talk on green wood and burning your wood efficiently. The worst sound for me, is hearing the wood hiss!
We log on our property and let it dry in four foot lengths. I am picky about what I burn in the kitchen wood stove. The basement stove is airtight. Both have metal bestos chimneys . We usually burn seasoned oak, maple, ash. I love using pinecones for fire starters, but this year there few out there this year. Our chimneys were clean this go round.
Great explanation there eh! Make lots of sense thanks for sharing the information you explained it really well...
Thanks my friend!
Thank you for sharing glad I found your video I clean mine every time it gets warm stainless steel pipe ,wood furnace
One reason to burn pine is if you have pine available on your property.
It’s definitely great kindling nice to watch burn.
Pine probably seasons faster then oak also.
It’s nice to have 2-3 year old split and stacked wood.
All true.
Here in Colorado we use pine and aspen.
And that’s exactly what I mean. In Ohio they look at you like you are stupid if you say “I burn pine”. They don’t know that it’s all some people have. We are lucky here to have so much hardwood.
Pine burns fast. Pine burns very hot, comparatively. Pine, if dry, is fine to burn. Pine is all over my property. It's cheap/free (I know it costs money and time to process firewood).
It's very simple... Keep an eye on your chimney. Clean it before the start of the season, and get up there and look at it about once per month. Burning a "creosote removal log", or equivalent, every six weeks or so is also a decent idea. Don't forget to empty out the chimney at the cleanout, the little door at the very bottom of the chimney. People sometimes leave the chimney sweepings in there, where they pile up and can start a slow burn chimney fire, which can go on for a day or two, before you're aware of it. I will burn VERY hot, and has the ability to catch the house framing, which surrounds the chimney, on fire. That's inside the walls stuff... Very scary.
In my twenty years of burning wood, I have not had to do a mid-winter chimney cleaning. I've lived in North Dakota and New England during those years; very cold winters.
Dry wood, clean chimney, and regular inspection of the chimney will keep you in good shape. I doesn't matter what wood you burn... It's when and how you burn it that matters.
Thanks for settling the argument with the wife. Just make sure its dry and your good to go. Yes.
You are more than welcome my friend
😊thanks for sharing this 😊 good dry wood is best 😊
I agree. I’ve heated with wood for 30+ years. Had some close calls a few times. Once coming in cold and exhausted I opened the bottom door to get things rolling and went in the other room and sit on the couch and fell asleep. Wow. The sweat running in my ears woke me up. The stove and pipe was cherry red clear to the ceiling. I got the air shut off and got outside to cool 😊
That’s a scary one for sure!
@@logcabinlifestyle I bet it burned off any creosote up there, though!
I burn eastern white pine all the time . During shoulder season it may be all I burn. Short burn fires just enough to warm the house back up. Chimney stays nice and clean with well seasoned wood.
Yes. But dry! Crazy how some people say this, what do they think people burn in areas with only softwood/conifer species.
Green hardwood produces more creosote than green pine, there is a Georgia Forestry Commission paper from the 70s on it. This is why you dry your hardwood..three years for oak (cut split and stacked) to get that moisture content down.
Yep another locust lover!! Persimmon and dogwood are some other high BTU woods I have burned.
I'm with you, I'm not scared or won't burn pine, I do but I don't go through the effort to cut and split and stacked pine because it takes just about as much effort to cut and split pine as it does HW and I get 2-3x the BTUs out of the hardwood.
As a Firefighter (30years) with a FireMarshall degree, I can testify with countless chimney fires , mainly due to 2 main reasons, 1: undried wood as referred to green wood, 2: peoples lacking knowledge on how to run a fireplace, meaning that a fire must burn to a certain heat temp. in order to consumate all the energy contained in the smoke, to prevent unconsumed gasses to stick to chimney walls , tickening to a solid coat ready to ignite and cause chimney fire . Pine is a soft wood containing much more fuel than maple ,thus making it prone to deliver these unburn fuels. Soft woods should be avoided . Hard wood is best but also more expensive. Jerry, you being a chimney sweeper sure knows about all this .and your life experience can help your customers really understand the whys and hows on this. Fully appreciate your input, Cheers fr. Mtl, Can.
Where is Mtl, Can?
@@dpresley9799 going to assume it's Montréal Canada.
Burning seasoned soft wood is not an issue. Been doing it for 20 years now, never had to clean my chimney. Except one year we did burn some "wet pine" it sucked, didn't create much heat at all..
When I did clean the chimney the following summer I ended up with a pile of black carbon like flakes... they were great for starting the next fire!
I bet some chimney fires would have been avoided if the chimney had been swept.
Also many places in the world don’t have hardwood to burn.
There is nothing wrong with pine for firewood especially if it’s all you have.
Pine is no more a creator of creosote than any other wood.
Soft woods should not be avoided because they burn and create heat.
Fire marshal is wrong but he doesn’t know it.
@@joeblow8893 yes for Montreal, and, the thick carbon layer you are referring is exactly the cause for chimney fire, every time you use the damper on the stove in order to not burn the wood too quickly, is the main cause for chimney creosote build-up.
I agree some. The problem is that dampers like I have on the potbelly should not even be installed on an airtight stove. They are meant for these old not airtight stoves. Believe it of not chimney fires didn’t happen all that much until the invention of the airtight stove. The potbelly with damper doesn’t get soot in it because it burns hot enough with or without the damper open. Either way the name of the game in stay warm and safe
My grandmother in England would through salt on the fire. She told mother that it was to prevent creosote
Living in Northwest Montana. Pine is mostly what we have. We don’t have a huge problem with chimney fires. Clean the chimney once a year.
That was the point of the video. Around her when I tell someone they have creosote the first thing they say is “but I don’t burn pine”
We live in Colorado, and other than the occasional Aspen we may find to cut, 90% of what we, and others, have burned for decades is pine, Lodge Pole and some Ponderosa. With hundred's of thousands of acres of beetle kill across the state, pine is everywhere and dry standing. Even when cut green and split, our high altitude summers and falls have humidity in the low teens to single digits, and when covered from the snow and on clear, dry winter days, even then the humidity can be 12-15%.
After all these years of burning pine, I have only needed to sweep the stove pipes once, but we also burn our stoves hot.
Three decades ago, I lived in the mid-South states, and there, we only burned oak, very dry oak. After 10 years of burning our large wood stove and preparing to sell our home and move to Colorado, I removed the chimney cover and peered into a very clean chimney. While burning a stove hot may not be everyone's desire, it has helped to keep our pipes and chimney very clean.
Useful information. Ty
I usually burn hard woods but I have two pine trees I just cut in my back yard and will be using them along with the hard wood to keep my house warm in the winter. MY wood stove is an insert in my fireplace. that recirculates the smoke several times and has what looks like burners on top inside when it is really burring everything., a 6" double walled stainless steel chiming liner with ceramic in between the two layers . My neighbor keeps asking why I am not using my wood stove, because he can't see any smoke coming out of the chimney.
I bet that just split log is way higher than 30%. Nice to see someone else get it though! I like to hit that 15% number. Hard here in the south to get close to that 10% number just from the moist environment. But burned some up there just under 20%
in many areas pine and juniper may be the only options. We use pine to start our fires and maybe take the chill out of the air in the mornings. Fires we want to last the night and keep a steady warmth we throw a couple big logs of juniper that will last the night.
Very good! That was exactly my point in the video
I find by throwing a soda or beer can into the wood stove helps alot with creosote. I have a guy that comes out once a year and tells me that my chimney looks great, and I told him that I throw cans in once in awile, and he said that is working.
Can you save the creosote and make the liquid wood preservative stuff we used to be able to buy for preserving wooden posts and fences? Never thought about making it but I’d love to have some for my split rail zigzag fences. Thanks
Yes you can
I’ve been heating solely with wood for the past 15 years. I’m in upstate new York, so we are very lucky with the quality hardwood available here.
That said, I dropped a big white pine on my property a few years ago and i didn’t want to leave it to rot. I bucked it and split it and the next year burned it. It burned hot and fast and no coals left in the morning. But I did not notice any difference when I cleaned my chimney. I would burn pine again only only if i had too. I feel it was a waste of time to cut, split and stack it when I could burn something better.
I like to run a hot fire at least one a day and keep a slower fire the rest of the day. I used to clean my chimney every year but let that extend to two or three years and i havent seen anything horrendous.
I have a lifetime supply of Pinyon outside my door. I wait until the trees die from carpenter ants or beetles and then cut them into rounds or split and let them dry at least a year. Some of these trees can be very large and probably several hundred years old. When you split them the wood can very hard and very brittle because it has so much sap. They can also be very heavy and dense. I try not burn exclusively all pinyon but I will put one in before I go to bed and tamp the oxygen down and they will burn all night but, they also leave a lot of creosote. Fortunately I can clean the pipe easily but I do often worry that I am not doing it enough at two times a year. Everything said in the video goes along with my experience burning pinyon for 20 yrs.
I just installed a high efficiency fireplace this summer and people have warned me about burning pine in it. Fireplace dealer says it's fine.
I've got a bunch of pine trees I need to cut down in the back. I'm gonna season them 2 summers under a wood shed and burn em. Videos like these are a good reminder that proper seasoning and burning hot are key to avoiding creosote. Thanks for getting the info out there
My dad burned pine in his wood stove but he mixed it with the hardwood. We never had an issue with buildup or chimney fires.
Pine and cedar will burn wet which is where the idea pine causes creosote build-up. Wood doesn't begin to dry out until it's been split. Hardwood won't burn unless it's dry. Burning pine takes closer draft management than hardwood but works fine if you are careful. Even an almost clogged stove pipe won't have a chimney fire without a hot fire being built. I have been called out because a new wood stove user complained that their stove started smoking when they opened the door. Almost always they were using wood from down trees as soon as it was cut and split. A check of the pipe invariably showed a tremendous build-up of creosote. After cleaning the chimney and building a fire with dry wood an explanation of the causes and a shovel full of the clean-out debris in the stove demonstrates how flammable the deposits are.
All my neighbors here in the ozarks burn the wood they cut that winter...I dont understand it..Im 2 years ahead stacked off the ground, and covered with sheet metal over the tops
I have plenty of ash, elm and oaks....but i also have about 2 face cords of pine split in 1 1/2 thick pieces for fast drying...been stacked and covered since late feb. should be fine come this winter
When I burn pine, I try to mix in some oak and manzanita wood and burn a very hot fire occasionally. So far, no problems.
I do this in a camping stove. Not sure how it will work in a real stove. Make a burn pit. Only take the embers into the stove. Less smoke and processing of wood. You are going to burn a lot of wood!!!! Hope that helps.
Hi Jerry, I’m from Europe and i keep hearing the term cord of firewood but here where we use cubic meters to measure amount of firewood the term “cord” is lost on me. So generally when stacked neatly how much volume does a cord of wood actually take up?
Stacked a cord of wood is 4 foot x 4 foot x 8 foot
@@logcabinlifestyle Thank you Jerry Tyson. In europe we measure firewood by meters cubed. Best regards :)
I use pecan wood, I live in an orchard
Maybe if stove pipe manufacturers put teflon inside the pipe the creosote would just fall back into the stove eliminating any buildup and chimney fires.??
Burning wood is kinda like driving a car....just because you can do it doesn't mean you know how. Absolutely nothing replaces experience.
I burn oak but have been told that I can throw pine in with it as long as it is dry.
True
does one avoid creosote by just having a hot enough flu and fire?
You most certainly do.
@@logcabinlifestyle 350c at the top? I took a look at the wikipedia article. is that the right temp? pyrolysis. Also could one design a pipe cap that could obviate the problem of a flu fire?
what would u Consider popular fire wood to be for Moisture most of my popular fire wood is 20 $and blow there no sound of hissing when u start with it and no walter Bubbling out of the ends when u burn it i make sure it 20%and under to burn is that ok
Yes, 13-20% for the moisture is good. I would say the poplar wood is much like pine minus the sap that pine has. So the closer to 13% the hotter and faster it will burn.
@lisbonsjohnnyappleseed good to know thanks u very much I not a fan of pine too never have bean but if I get it I burn it but I sooner tack poplar over pine I fine it burns longer then pine for me in my epa stoves
You are right. I burn mostly hard wood. Oak, maple, Hickory, chestnut, but we have loads of it here in Ohio. I mostly just use pine for a hot quick fire. Have a wonderful Thanksgiving
@@logcabinlifestyle 👍 happy Thanksgiving
Why wud I burn pine? In the off season it burns hot and fast, I find nothing makes more creosote than oak!
Your right. That was the point of the video. I do the same thing. But if you talk to most people they will say that creosote is only in pine wood. This is not true
wait. why was it a problem to burn pine? because people who use pine are too simple to use hardwoods, and therefore they also have wet wood? or because the wood burns up quick and then people neglect the fire and let it cool? I dont understand. my understanding is that the unpyrlolised wood sticks to the walls and ignites.
What about Osage orange ,,,hedge Apple ,,bow dock,,,,,,that's what I burn in,mine when I can get it ,,,,,your opion on it
Creosote comes from wet wood. The harder the better but most importantly less than 20% moisture
Osage is the best for firewood, in a stove, as long as it's dry. It doesn't begin to dry until it is split, like all woods. Not so much for fireplace because of the popping pieces off as it burns.
What do you do with your creosote?
It depends, the only one that gets any creosote is the wood furnace in the basement. With it I clean the chimney. Ps, I don’t burn pine in that one.
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Sometimes you have to burn pine because that’s all you got keep it dry let it dry before burning
Yep
can I cook on pine , opened fire ?
In an emergency yes, but your food will taste like a pine tree
Pine is fine but it needs to be dried properly. Bottom line.
Remember the sap?
You mean the fat wood? Like the sell in the store for fire starter?
just make a smaller fire and use less air. jesus.
Do not burn pine, for the main fire.
Kindling is fine
Hardwood is king.
Creosote build up from pine is inevatable in a short time.
Not true! Do your own research, not just what you have been told. I’m a chimney sweep and have done chimneys all of my life! Creosote doesn’t come from pine but from water!
No and no