the AOA su-27 pulls is insane, and in some cases i can definitely see the su-27 winning purely because it pulled more aoa the f-15 has a very good turn rate, im not quite too sure how good it is, but it looks very decent just looking at how you go above him and turn while he cannot even get close to getting his guns on you id be happy seeing some flanker vs flanker dogfights like this, it can be very interesting imo
It does outrage the flanker above 700kmh pretty easily, but lower than that the flanker does really well. Honestly, they both have kind of even flight performance with some key tradeoffs
@@christopherchartier3017which if you listen to DCS players (like Growling Sidewinder) he says that exact same thing. They're fairly "equal" from certain perspectives.
Plz make more of these, we know that F15 can somewhat hang with su27 in one circle fights, but it is 1 degree faster in two circles, I don't have time to play the test serv, but would love to see these fights more!@@MrUniversTV
This honestly feels pretty similar to DCS if you ever watch F-15 vs Flanker videos, even the hammerhead maneuvers you were doing to get down on top of him, so I think Gaijin has done something right here.
@@gaben2907I think it's not broken. 1) It's very good IRL 2) It balances its lack of respectable BVR missiles. 3) 6 missiles total is still decent but it's ouclassed by now
@@Gobie_in a clean dogfight the F-15 has the win after the second merge. In a live match with missiles, the Su-27 wins purely on AoA and using the R-73
Thats a subscribe. Any new plane should be tested just like this. It's the most accurate to show the abilities. I can't wait to get both these planes into sim with vr and hotas.
Hey Univers I can't find the video where you explain the reason why you have such a high brightness level in this game. Was it because you can spot missiles more easily?
Yesterday i did a bunch of dogfights in an su 27 against an f15 and it's not even fair i can just pull and do a 180 right after the first turn and launch an r73
The moment you start fighting the 27 in a one circle is the moment you die. Try to keep the fight a 2 circle.It's not hard considering most wt players just pull their mouse on top of the enemy and don't care about basic fighter maneouvers. Now of course the f-15 won but it was down to the pilot skill here and the flanker had plenty of chances to actually get a shot off if he was a bit faster. This is not a critique btw, I'm just saying stuff I think is relevant to the video
@@TheTISEOMan if it was me I would of smoked him in the first turn the Su-27 is definitely better than the f-15 that guy just has no idea how to fly it properly I fly it all the time in dcs and it’s better than the f-15 in a dogfight but definitely not in a bvr engagement
So first of all DCS is completly different, war thunder is an arcade game unlike DCS. Second of all this was my 2nd game or something in it, only played 1h on the dev server while universe had been flying for hours testing out all the new aircraft against each other. Of course he will beat me when i litterly have no idea how all the new planes work and what to expect from them. We did plenty of more dogfights (su27 vs f15) were i won and also lost like in the video. And btw saying u would smoke him? Buddy first of all u dont even average 1 kill per battle in air rb, second ur pretty much 1 to 1 in most of ur jets some even below, stats dont really matter that much but it defiently tells me that u arent a good player and ur videos on ur yt channel say the same😂 @@coty.ott0359
my sound mod broke the dev server so my game is super quiet and my breathing intensifies so its easy to hear it lmfao. SORRY!
what sound mod do you use?
the AOA su-27 pulls is insane, and in some cases i can definitely see the su-27 winning purely because it pulled more aoa
the f-15 has a very good turn rate, im not quite too sure how good it is, but it looks very decent just looking at how you go above him and turn while he cannot even get close to getting his guns on you
id be happy seeing some flanker vs flanker dogfights like this, it can be very interesting imo
It does outrage the flanker above 700kmh pretty easily, but lower than that the flanker does really well. Honestly, they both have kind of even flight performance with some key tradeoffs
@@christopherchartier3017which if you listen to DCS players (like Growling Sidewinder) he says that exact same thing. They're fairly "equal" from certain perspectives.
This is the first video that showcases how f15 should be flown so far since dev serv opened... I knew it'd be from you
It got slightly better FM in the update that added the cockpit.
Plz make more of these, we know that F15 can somewhat hang with su27 in one circle fights, but it is 1 degree faster in two circles, I don't have time to play the test serv, but would love to see these fights more!@@MrUniversTV
This update is absolutely 🔥
This honestly feels pretty similar to DCS if you ever watch F-15 vs Flanker videos, even the hammerhead maneuvers you were doing to get down on top of him, so I think Gaijin has done something right here.
It’s beautiful
Immm no the f it isn’t Lool. This is arcady as hell and I hate jets in WT they should stuck to props
@@elongatedwingwell then don't play, no one's forcing you to.
@@jacobbaumgardner3406 I don’t play it. Playing is for kids. I sim
@@elongatedwing well that’s good because sim is only for adults that act like kids. 😉
this dogfight is so majestatic
good dog fight, i think the su27 has the better maneuverability but the f15 has a slightly better speed and thrust to weight ratio
I agree with this, kept my after burner on when going vertical and that gave me a ton of extra energy which allowed me to stay out of his guns
@@MrUniversTV jas39 and mirage 4000 would be interesting but im guessing the gripen would win since its literally stupidly broken
@PatrioticItalian keep it broken. If I can't have fun in the f15 I'll have fun in that little momster
how is gripen broken? @@TyphoonTranche5
@@gaben2907I think it's not broken. 1) It's very good IRL
2) It balances its lack of respectable BVR missiles.
3) 6 missiles total is still decent but it's ouclassed by now
Man if these planes had a little turret it would be game over in this situation.
I'm thinking how much like some dcs shit this is. . . Also, 3 seconds later: *Dude, this feels like dcs!*
gawd damn the f15 really pulls at around 750 kph
Nice dogfight! Also the F15 and Su27 are pretty equal, amazing gg
does not look equal to me the su-27 didn't land a single shot, maybe its the pilots fault idk
@@Gobie_in a clean dogfight the F-15 has the win after the second merge. In a live match with missiles, the Su-27 wins purely on AoA and using the R-73
What a fight, shame the su27 didn't pull some crazy shit
Thats a subscribe. Any new plane should be tested just like this. It's the most accurate to show the abilities. I can't wait to get both these planes into sim with vr and hotas.
Hey Univers I can't find the video where you explain the reason why you have such a high brightness level in this game.
Was it because you can spot missiles more easily?
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Yesterday i did a bunch of dogfights in an su 27 against an f15 and it's not even fair i can just pull and do a 180 right after the first turn and launch an r73
yeah... the missiles compared between both planes is quite laughable
good video hope you do more of these!
Thank you!
It would go so well if there was some stereotypicall ballerina music in the background
Lol
Do you maybe know when the next sale is?
Isnt the F15 should be pulling more AoA than its currently just pulling now?
And the flanker should have a better sustained turn rate than it does now
video on gripen?
soon :)
The moment you start fighting the 27 in a one circle is the moment you die. Try to keep the fight a 2 circle.It's not hard considering most wt players just pull their mouse on top of the enemy and don't care about basic fighter maneouvers. Now of course the f-15 won but it was down to the pilot skill here and the flanker had plenty of chances to actually get a shot off if he was a bit faster.
This is not a critique btw, I'm just saying stuff I think is relevant to the video
We all know this :) just testing its capabilities for a video
Have u tried mirage 4000 its better
video on that soon!
@@MrUniversTV thx
Tha su 27 pilot has a major skill issue if hes losing to an eagle
Exactly what I was thinking whoever was in it sucked so bad
@@coty.ott0359Not really breh. F-15 slightly outrates the Su-27.
@@TheTISEOMan if it was me I would of smoked him in the first turn the Su-27 is definitely better than the f-15 that guy just has no idea how to fly it properly I fly it all the time in dcs and it’s better than the f-15 in a dogfight but definitely not in a bvr engagement
So first of all DCS is completly different, war thunder is an arcade game unlike DCS. Second of all this was my 2nd game or something in it, only played 1h on the dev server while universe had been flying for hours testing out all the new aircraft against each other. Of course he will beat me when i litterly have no idea how all the new planes work and what to expect from them. We did plenty of more dogfights (su27 vs f15) were i won and also lost like in the video. And btw saying u would smoke him? Buddy first of all u dont even average 1 kill per battle in air rb, second ur pretty much 1 to 1 in most of ur jets some even below, stats dont really matter that much but it defiently tells me that u arent a good player and ur videos on ur yt channel say the same😂 @@coty.ott0359
@@Zerfix_ 💀
Can u beat defyn in dogfight?
No clue, but i'd bet that'd be an interesting fight :)
@@MrUniversTV i wish there was a 1v1 dogfight tournament for youtubers so that we can find out who's the best
stop making me hear your breathing instead of the game sound, good dogfight tho
*breathing intensifies* plus my sound mod broke my sound so you can only hear other jet engines lolol
nice slow mo :)
With missiles Su-27 wins in 1 second after the first turn lol
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I like seeing bad players dog fight and good players 🤣, All I here is a keyboard bro.
bro speak English.
The su 27 kinda threw tho
we're both not duelers and this was just testing the capabilities of the jets super maneuverability