I mean..he seemed pretty serious in the interview where he said he was indifferent lol I think he just got too comfortable and told his truth...despite his clean-up here
I watched the interview and I understand why she was upset. He said she was eager to get married and that he is indifferent. I think they’re both devoted to each other but the way it was phrased made her seem desperate or that she isn’t getting what she wants. Kudos for him for clearing it up and manning up in public saying he made a mistake.
Sometimes we said things spontaneously without thinking and most of the time it turns out to be true feelings. The way he expresses himself making the comment is the way he really feels.
I agree, but it also seems more than likely that he loves his girlfriend and seriously regrets not thinking about how his original comment would hurt her. It wasn't "banter", but it is the sort of bad mistake that it's very easy for (mostly) honest celebrities to make - after a long 'round' of never ending nterviews.
somewhat agree to that...when couple live together long enough. Marriage could be just a visible bond and reflect your life in many ways. Regardless of the 'indifferent' term, no one knows what the future brings. I like Charlie as a man and the actor no matter what.
He said he isn't interested in the actual process of marriage, not that he doesn't love her or that he isn't invested in the relationship. Some guys (and women too) are happy with just being in a committed relationship without the marriage and wedding ritual.
I have been married for 19 yrs. A legal piece of paper doesn't make the marriage. You and your spouse do. There's no reason to get upset if you are in a strong relationship. If they've been together for that long, it's called common-law marriage or sui iris. There married. They have lived as a married couple for 14 years. Give them there respect and mind ya business... Great movie! Love you for your acting Charlie! Though I know he won't read this...lol...
Hang on a minute! You wouldn't get upset if you'd been in a serious relationship with a guy for more than a decade, and he then tells the MEDIA that whilst he doesn't want to get married, you badly want to get married - and so he may marry to 'keep you happy'?? That is the sort of truth that needs to be kept between each other - not told to the media!
@@liisaks1 No. I told my husband I wouldn't marry him for the 1st 5 years of our relationship. If he felt married to me and still wanted to get married legally after 5 yrs I would do it. Marriage is more than just a legal piece of paper. I felt married in those 1st 5 years. It's up to them if they get married legally. They could have all the same romance with or without a legal document. I think that's the only thing people overlook. We spent little as possible on our marriage. Not everyone in this world needs a big fancy wedding. We as a couple just wanted each other. It's not anyone's business how or when they marry. If they decide to marry and have a wedding, it's to seal and share there love of each other with there close friends and family. Not strangers who obsess over him. I think he was just trying to answer a question truthfully without making him look like dick. He could have said next question, but who knows what it feels like to be put on the spot in a interview. Part of his getting paying movie rolls is to make his fans love him, unfortunately, some of the fans are gonna only like him for certain reasons. Which comes in the dramatic unprofessional personal questions. No answer is going to please anyone. Not even her. What's important is he is sorry and didn't mean anything by it. People say shit that pisses off there spouse all the time. My husband and I have been doing it for 19 years.... lol...
Actually people asking others about wether they are getting married or not, should keep that question away. He regrets probably because she was hurt. But he hasn't changed his mind about his thoughts of marriage as an institution. 14 years and on ,sounds like already married to me.
Yeahh, i feel like he said what he was feeling! I'm sure throughout the 15 years that they have been together, the topic of marriage has come up & he's told her exactly how he feels. I get why she would be mad of what he said or how he explained those feelings to a couple of strangers but, at the end of the day, she must've excepted that to be with him for so long! 🤷🏽♀️
Morgana seems like a good girl who's put up with a lot of crap, including internet trolls. I get it. It's just a piece of paper. But when my husband gave me an ultimatum and said he doesn't wanna stay with me unless we got married because he "want[s] that piece of paper," I had to choose between not getting married and losing him forever, or compromising because I couldn't live without him. So he got me to wear his ring.
Yeah the first time he was young & it was more of a spur of the moment thing. He didn't actually have an understanding of what that meant or how felt about it!
I bet her girlfriend was really mad, by the way he was (trying so hard) explaining everything on this interview. i believe this was the same speech he gave her girlfriend. he was really fu*ked up 😁 but gurlll, 14 years?? You won't tie any knot dear 🙄 just accept it or walk away...
I agree w everything but that last part. Couples who’ve been together for 20+ yrs have gotten married. We don’t know them. Not every woman wants marriage just to feel confined and then go thru a messy divorce ..
Sounds like an insecure individual. Married men and women fuck each other over all the time.I’ve got a long relationship that’s weathered and lasted longer than others marriages(friends,family etc)Marriage means fuck all,commitment and faithfulness are what matter. Not a ring,ceremony or paper. Quit living by society standards and pave your own way in life.
It was very obvious that his stupidly, honest comment to the media (!), could ONLY result in upsetting his girlfriend - and desperately trying to back-track isn't going to work. A lot of grovelling is going to be required.
Which is probably why he is not any social media platforms like Instagram because, people have a lot of opinions & those opinions can damage relationships!
@@armchairguru1921 Yeah and that is a part of it too. If you are living a comfortable life, if you don't have financial stress, if you are not from a conservative background etc, marriage usually not that significant.
I think he is a very sincere person, also if he does not want to marry why force him, if they force him he will feel miserable perhaps they do not want to see him happy. xoxo mel
Morgan should leave him. 17 years of being someone’s girlfriend is just ridiculous. He doesn’t love her. If he dies today, she’ll have nothing. Such a shame.
This is how this story goes: They stay together few more years,he breaks up with her,gets married and has children within 5 years with someone else and she is left with nothing.
Wow, such shade. Did any of you ever think that they "both" don't want kids? Many couples are in agreement with not having kids. Not their thing. Why are so many people on here hung up on why they don't have kids or want them and really, is it anyone's business but theirs?
it looks like theres a problem in communication between his gf and him. i mean, she got hurt cause he said this, which means she's been expecting the proposal or marriage, which means she's been expecting it even after 14 YEARS. and he on the other hand seems to never have told her his opinion on marriage and that he isnt gonna marry. which means they haven't properly talked with each other and sat down and discussed their future. i mean expecting that ur partner is going to marry u even after 14 years of being together is naive, but keeping ur partner im the dark and stallin them is bad too. i like him as an actor but as a personality i dont know tbh
Yeahh i just said this! I don't know what she was expecting for him to say. Surely, they, in the 14 years of being together would have had a talk about marriage & their future together! Obviously, they came to an understanding or they would of went their seperate ways if it was a problem! 🤷🏽♀️
Don't be sorry, marriage is nonsensical. Why do you need a religious figure to sanctify your relationship? Or official government recognition? If you want to spend your life with someone, spend your life with someone, the government and god need not get involved.
Exactly. And he stated in an interview "I'm doing this for my girlfriend, because it's important for her", so that already states how much he loves her, he doesn't have to agree or prioritise the same things she does in order to be a good boyfriend.
It sounds like maybe the indifferent comment opened his eyes a bit after it upset his gf and they talked deeper about it. He seems a bit more matured on the subject. Honestly, when you’re in love with someone you’ll marry them if thats what makes them happy because if they’re happy that’s what should make you happy.
I’m pretty sure marriage is a very sensitive subject between him and his GF. I have nothing against marriage because it’s the very ultimate commitment two people can make to each other. His excuses are UN acceptable and most likely to her as well. But I personally believe he’s waiting for something better to come along. As for her, I’d dump him.
@@shebedoingher sorry I meant to get back to you. I can see things better than I can explain but here goes. To me he likes to get what he wants and takes great pleasure in knowing he has done. If anyone can further the explanation feel free to do so
If his girlfriend who he’s been with for 14 years didn’t understand what he meant when he said he was indifferent to marriage, then I have to question HER bc obviously neither of them are about marriage
Marriage certificate gives legal rights of property. Societal acceptance. I seen divorces, my parents separated for a year (1966), and other married couples having much discontent. What I seen, marriage scared me. So I didn't. I seen some great marriages to. I believe divorce is 45%. 😵🤯
He was being honest. He was in an unhappy marriage at a young age, I don't blame him for not wanting to marry again. Far too many married people shouldn't be. Look at the divorce stats. He and his girlfriend seem happy, I think that legal document ruins many a good relationship. Just thought I'd put in my two cents worth, it's only my opinion. Girls don't beat me up.
I know many couples who are in their late 30s and early 40s who still don't have kids because it's just not their cup of tea. Many of them have nieces and nephews and they're excellent with them. Some people just don't want to bring children into this state of world i've been told. so... nothing wrong with that.
Some people can help but sound like a boomer. What kind of question is that? He has no children because he doesn't want to. If it was that big of a problem to her she would've left him like 10 years ago.
I have a feeling that he won't and if he did the fact that did it for her will always be between them. I mean he was married before so something must have happened for him to not want to do it again after being with morgana for 14 years and feelings like that don't change usually.
Él sabe sus razones de no querer ni casarse ni hijos, y busca una mujer que probablemente esté realizada en ese aspecto porque ya haya experimentado el matrimonio y la maternidad, con lo cual no le va a exigir nada de lo que él no quiere.
It’s crazy how bitchy people in comments sections can be, especially about relationships between two people none of us have met (or probably ever will meet). Their relationship isn’t weird at all. I have close friends who have been together as long as Charlie and Morgana, if not longer, and also aren’t married. Their priorities are different-they met in high school but wanted to finish school, buy a house, etc rather than spend money on a wedding. They are engaged now, have been for a couple of years, but there is no wedding on the horizon. Being legally married doesn’t define a relationship. Also, for people to blatantly assume that Charlie’s girlfriend MUST want children and therefore is desperate for him to propose is stupid. Women don’t ALL want to have children. And even if they as a couple do, they don’t have to be legally married to raise a family. It could be him that wants kids and not her, for all we know, which is absolutely nothing. The takeaway is that it is possible to be ambivalent towards marriage as an institution but still participate in it if they both decide they want to. If they’ve been together this long, I’m sure they have the skills to compromise and understand each other that the public won’t be privy to.
That's some brutal honesty talking... Wow, I am very impressed!
I mean..he seemed pretty serious in the interview where he said he was indifferent lol I think he just got too comfortable and told his truth...despite his clean-up here
I watched the interview and I understand why she was upset. He said she was eager to get married and that he is indifferent. I think they’re both devoted to each other but the way it was phrased made her seem desperate or that she isn’t getting what she wants. Kudos for him for clearing it up and manning up in public saying he made a mistake.
Don’t confuse ‘marriage’ with ‘devotion’. They have devotion 💖💝💖
Love this!!
Sometimes we said things spontaneously without thinking and most of the time it turns out to be true feelings. The way he expresses himself making the comment is the way he really feels.
I agree, but it also seems more than likely that he loves his girlfriend and seriously regrets not thinking about how his original comment would hurt her.
It wasn't "banter", but it is the sort of bad mistake that it's very easy for (mostly) honest celebrities to make - after a long 'round' of never ending nterviews.
Okay, Einstein.
somewhat agree to that...when couple live together long enough. Marriage could be just a visible bond and reflect your life in many ways. Regardless of the 'indifferent' term, no one knows what the future brings. I like Charlie as a man and the actor no matter what.
I know this is really selfish to say, but I hope that Charlie never stops making movies.
I feel after 14 years if you haven't you probably won't. And he was married before so...
He said he isn't interested in the actual process of marriage, not that he doesn't love her or that he isn't invested in the relationship. Some guys (and women too) are happy with just being in a committed relationship without the marriage and wedding ritual.
he just gay, lol
@@foraway9644 No
Tina Turner got married after 30yrs of knowing her husband. Never say never
@@ayachan7 well if you are meaning that she married Ike Turner look at the way that turned out so not a very good example
I have been married for 19 yrs. A legal piece of paper doesn't make the marriage. You and your spouse do. There's no reason to get upset if you are in a strong relationship. If they've been together for that long, it's called common-law marriage or sui iris. There married. They have lived as a married couple for 14 years. Give them there respect and mind ya business... Great movie! Love you for your acting Charlie! Though I know he won't read this...lol...
Hang on a minute! You wouldn't get upset if you'd been in a serious relationship with a guy for more than a decade, and he then tells the MEDIA that whilst he doesn't want to get married, you badly want to get married - and so he may marry to 'keep you happy'??
That is the sort of truth that needs to be kept between each other - not told to the media!
@@liisaks1 No. I told my husband I wouldn't marry him for the 1st 5 years of our relationship. If he felt married to me and still wanted to get married legally after 5 yrs I would do it. Marriage is more than just a legal piece of paper. I felt married in those 1st 5 years. It's up to them if they get married legally. They could have all the same romance with or without a legal document. I think that's the only thing people overlook. We spent little as possible on our marriage. Not everyone in this world needs a big fancy wedding. We as a couple just wanted each other. It's not anyone's business how or when they marry. If they decide to marry and have a wedding, it's to seal and share there love of each other with there close friends and family. Not strangers who obsess over him. I think he was just trying to answer a question truthfully without making him look like dick. He could have said next question, but who knows what it feels like to be put on the spot in a interview. Part of his getting paying movie rolls is to make his fans love him, unfortunately, some of the fans are gonna only like him for certain reasons. Which comes in the dramatic unprofessional personal questions. No answer is going to please anyone. Not even her. What's important is he is sorry and didn't mean anything by it. People say shit that pisses off there spouse all the time. My husband and I have been doing it for 19 years.... lol...
@@joannafoley1317 As i commented to Lisa, every rose has its thorns.
True!
Common law marriage is not legal in California!
Haha he’s trying to save face because he upset his girlfriend, I feel you Charlie, not trying to break no hearts. You be alright man !
Actually people asking others about wether they are getting married or not, should keep that question away. He regrets probably because she was hurt. But he hasn't changed his mind about his thoughts of marriage as an institution. 14 years and on ,sounds like already married to me.
Yeahh, i feel like he said what he was feeling! I'm sure throughout the 15 years that they have been together, the topic of marriage has come up & he's told her exactly how he feels. I get why she would be mad of what he said or how he explained those feelings to a couple of strangers but, at the end of the day, she must've excepted that to be with him for so long! 🤷🏽♀️
Morgana seems like a good girl who's put up with a lot of crap, including internet trolls. I get it. It's just a piece of paper. But when my husband gave me an ultimatum and said he doesn't wanna stay with me unless we got married because he "want[s] that piece of paper," I had to choose between not getting married and losing him forever, or compromising because I couldn't live without him. So he got me to wear his ring.
He's been married before. I can see why he doesnt wanna do it.
Yeah the first time he was young & it was more of a spur of the moment thing. He didn't actually have an understanding of what that meant or how felt about it!
Now thats a MAN, can bring it back in!! He realized his mistake and acknowledged he hurt His Woman's heart. God bless you Charlie
I love him. To admit that something you said may have been wrong is a trait we rarely see in celebrities.
His GF is soo lucky.
If he knows it's important to her and he says he is indifferent why not do it? Why string her along
I bet her girlfriend was really mad, by the way he was (trying so hard) explaining everything on this interview. i believe this was the same speech he gave her girlfriend. he was really fu*ked up 😁 but gurlll, 14 years?? You won't tie any knot dear 🙄 just accept it or walk away...
THANK YOU!!!!!
I agree w everything but that last part. Couples who’ve been together for 20+ yrs have gotten married. We don’t know them. Not every woman wants marriage just to feel confined and then go thru a messy divorce ..
Marriage is a piece of paper. If both people agree they don't need it, it's literally the same thing as if they were married.
After 14/15 years the knot is already tied. You don't need to sign a paper to make sure it is.
Sounds like an insecure individual.
Married men and women fuck each other over all the time.I’ve got a long relationship that’s weathered and lasted longer than others marriages(friends,family etc)Marriage means fuck all,commitment and faithfulness are what matter. Not a ring,ceremony or paper. Quit living by society standards and pave your own way in life.
He knows how to have his cake and eat it also how to back track really well
It was very obvious that his stupidly, honest comment to the media (!), could ONLY result in upsetting his girlfriend - and desperately trying to back-track isn't going to work.
A lot of grovelling is going to be required.
If he needs to apologize then she is an idiot. 14 years
Which is probably why he is not any social media platforms like Instagram because, people have a lot of opinions & those opinions can damage relationships!
People can say what they want about getting married or not. BUT, make no mistake, that 'PIECE OF PAPER' is a VERY IMMPORTANT ONE!
To people with certain privileges, it actually does not.
@@Bjjbhcoa86 I was speaking about the psychological meaning.
@@armchairguru1921 Yeah and that is a part of it too. If you are living a comfortable life, if you don't have financial stress, if you are not from a conservative background etc, marriage usually not that significant.
I think he is a very sincere person, also if he does not want to marry why force him, if they force him he will feel miserable perhaps they do not want to see him happy. xoxo mel
Wow 14 years together congratulations.My boyfriend just ended a 13 year realationship it's going to take me a long time to get over this one.
I hope he never loses his
real accent it's cute!!!😹
I have a feeling his gf wasn't too happy about that🙄
14 years. She should know
if his girlfriend wants a family and children, she is wasting time
Damn I learned something new today. To be allowed to have a family and children you need to be officially married.
@@Ocean5ix Touche' Victor....
I wouldn’t go that far. She just ain’t getting a white dress and ceremony and a paper signed at the courthouse
Morgan should leave him. 17 years of being someone’s girlfriend is just ridiculous. He doesn’t love her. If he dies today, she’ll have nothing. Such a shame.
This is how this story goes: They stay together few more years,he breaks up with her,gets married and has children within 5 years with someone else and she is left with nothing.
Or they marry and break up in the future and she takes everything from him, including their offspring, and he gets nothing. Sounds good, right?
Wow, such shade. Did any of you ever think that they "both" don't want kids? Many couples are in agreement with not having kids. Not their thing. Why are so many people on here hung up on why they don't have kids or want them and really, is it anyone's business but theirs?
I am the “someone else” he gets married to
@@Ashley-us7bm To Charlie or is this a metaphor?
@el nino Huh? Surprise, but not all women are into giving fellatio, so good luck with that "whole flock of bitches" lol
it looks like theres a problem in communication between his gf and him. i mean, she got hurt cause he said this, which means she's been expecting the proposal or marriage, which means she's been expecting it even after 14 YEARS. and he on the other hand seems to never have told her his opinion on marriage and that he isnt gonna marry. which means they haven't properly talked with each other and sat down and discussed their future. i mean expecting that ur partner is going to marry u even after 14 years of being together is naive, but keeping ur partner im the dark and stallin them is bad too. i like him as an actor but as a personality i dont know tbh
Yeahh i just said this! I don't know what she was expecting for him to say. Surely, they, in the 14 years of being together would have had a talk about marriage & their future together! Obviously, they came to an understanding or they would of went their seperate ways if it was a problem! 🤷🏽♀️
@@luwamalem9537 true!
Hmm making alot of excuses 🤔 awesome actor though😊
He doesn't need to explain to others why they're not married. Many people doesn't want marriage.
If they have been together THAT long and shs’s getting mad over him stating HIS truth then they need to part ways! I LOVE HIM!
She needs to move on if part of her life desire is to have a family...pass 3 years is too long to wonder!
Just a normal human ,all of Us saying things sometimes .....
Don't be sorry, marriage is nonsensical. Why do you need a religious figure to sanctify your relationship? Or official government recognition? If you want to spend your life with someone, spend your life with someone, the government and god need not get involved.
Exactly. And he stated in an interview "I'm doing this for my girlfriend, because it's important for her", so that already states how much he loves her, he doesn't have to agree or prioritise the same things she does in order to be a good boyfriend.
You are always greatly missed.
He is so contradictory lol. Every interview he gives contradicts everything he said in the previous one. On every single subject.
I am glad that he finally fessed up
What a coward lmao i love him
Lmfaoo why a coward 💀💀
Don’t speak of Jax Teller like that
@@yeaight8439 All in favor of Lina X meeting Mr. Mayhem
What about this is cowardly? He regrets hurting his girlfriend's feelings. I would call that sweet.
(In Other Words) "My girlfriend got pissed at me, so I'm retracting!" Pa Ha Ha Ha Ha! Well?.....I Can't Blame Him For That! lol :)
This is the only celebrity that seriously just makes me ache with desire! Ugggggghhhh!!!
lmaooo me too
What's the point of marriage? If you separate from each other you don't need a divorce.
It sounds like maybe the indifferent comment opened his eyes a bit after it upset his gf and they talked deeper about it. He seems a bit more matured on the subject. Honestly, when you’re in love with someone you’ll marry them if thats what makes them happy because if they’re happy that’s what should make you happy.
its ok ..make her happy
I’m pretty sure marriage is a very sensitive subject between him and his GF. I have nothing against marriage because it’s the very ultimate commitment two people can make to each other. His excuses are UN acceptable and most likely to her as well. But I personally believe he’s waiting for something better to come along. As for her, I’d dump him.
He knows how to have his cake and eat it but sounds like he doesn't want to admit it
What does that means?
@@shebedoingher sorry I meant to get back to you. I can see things better than I can explain but here goes. To me he likes to get what he wants and takes great pleasure in knowing he has done. If anyone can further the explanation feel free to do so
He sounds very loyal. He just doesn’t want to make it government official
@@Inga912 yeah I know. Wasn't fair on me posting a negative comment when I don't even know the guy
If his girlfriend who he’s been with for 14 years didn’t understand what he meant when he said he was indifferent to marriage, then I have to question HER bc obviously neither of them are about marriage
Aw such cool guy just talking to paps
Marriage certificate gives legal rights of property. Societal acceptance. I seen divorces, my parents separated for a year (1966), and other married couples having much discontent. What I seen, marriage scared me. So I didn't. I seen some great marriages to. I believe divorce is 45%. 😵🤯
Money ..money scared
WHEN WAS THIS FILMED
God blessed you always
WHO IS THE WOMAN IN THE PICTURE FOR THE THUMBNAIL.??
His girlfriend Morgana
Hot water 🤣
Charlie, you live your life the way you want. Your life it's nobody business.
No he must share his life with us
He was being honest. He was in an unhappy marriage at a young age, I don't blame him for not wanting to marry again. Far too many married people shouldn't be. Look at the divorce stats. He and his girlfriend seem happy, I think that legal document ruins many a good relationship. Just thought I'd put in my two cents worth, it's only my opinion. Girls don't beat me up.
WHAT AIRPORT IS HE AT?
A romantic....ahhhhh💓💞💓
Why he still has no children, that’s the main question, not marriage.He is almost 40 years old.
Anastasia S. Because he doesn’t want to and it’s not your business
I know many couples who are in their late 30s and early 40s who still don't have kids because it's just not their cup of tea. Many of them have nieces and nephews and they're excellent with them. Some people just don't want to bring children into this state of world i've been told. so... nothing wrong with that.
Some people can help but sound like a boomer. What kind of question is that? He has no children because he doesn't want to. If it was that big of a problem to her she would've left him like 10 years ago.
@@Ocean5ix Agreed.
Have you seen the news lately?! S Still Blame those of us that dknt want to brings kids to the messed up world?!
82000 PEOPLE HAVE WATCHED IT
Ugh he is SOOOO hot and smart as well!! The best of both worlds!!
No u dont just in case shes leave you broke
is he really doing it?
I have a feeling that he won't and if he did the fact that did it for her will always be between them. I mean he was married before so something must have happened for him to not want to do it again after being with morgana for 14 years and feelings like that don't change usually.
Ruth Mejia his last marriage was a horrible part of his life they were both young when they got married and the divorce was terrible.
Él sabe sus razones de no querer ni casarse ni hijos, y busca una mujer que probablemente esté realizada en ese aspecto porque ya haya experimentado el matrimonio y la maternidad, con lo cual no le va a exigir nada de lo que él no quiere.
So You should get Married 👍💕👍After 14 years Toghether🤔Good Luck and Be HAPPY 😁💋
You are so cute lucky lady whatever it is you're with
He sounds differnt from soa
he was hella young
He's liar.
is he doing it?
I think they will and very soon. Isn't what he meant with "watch this space" ?
Sounds ao different from soa
I still have feelings for you love ❤❤❤
Jax Teller
Cute
It’s crazy how bitchy people in comments sections can be, especially about relationships between two people none of us have met (or probably ever will meet).
Their relationship isn’t weird at all. I have close friends who have been together as long as Charlie and Morgana, if not longer, and also aren’t married. Their priorities are different-they met in high school but wanted to finish school, buy a house, etc rather than spend money on a wedding. They are engaged now, have been for a couple of years, but there is no wedding on the horizon. Being legally married doesn’t define a relationship.
Also, for people to blatantly assume that Charlie’s girlfriend MUST want children and therefore is desperate for him to propose is stupid. Women don’t ALL want to have children. And even if they as a couple do, they don’t have to be legally married to raise a family. It could be him that wants kids and not her, for all we know, which is absolutely nothing.
The takeaway is that it is possible to be ambivalent towards marriage as an institution but still participate in it if they both decide they want to. If they’ve been together this long, I’m sure they have the skills to compromise and understand each other that the public won’t be privy to.
😶
QUERO CASAR COM CHARLIE HUNNAM!!!RSRSRS